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AT&T's website no longer has the Xperia X10?

I was just on att.com and just for kicks I wanted to see if they still sold the Vivaz (Of course they still do). Then we I was doing my search I saw they NO LONGER HAVE THE X10 on their website. I am really sad to see this but I guess its being replaced by the Play, Arc, Neo, and the Pro.

That Guy Is Here said:
I was just on att.com and just for kicks I wanted to see if they still sold the Vivaz (Of course they still do). Then we I was doing my search I saw they NO LONGER HAVE THE X10 on their website. I am really sad to see this but I guess its being replaced by the Play, Arc, Neo, and the Pro.
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yup x10 is old.

That Guy Is Here said:
I was just on att.com and just for kicks I wanted to see if they still sold the Vivaz (Of course they still do). Then we I was doing my search I saw they NO LONGER HAVE THE X10 on their website. I am really sad to see this but I guess its being replaced by the Play, Arc, Neo, and the Pro.
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EOL was found out before Xmas but it was supposed to be a few more weeks, they just carried through early it seems. Now there are people who are wondering if they will ever release another branded update to the phone. Since it's EOL, it's unlikely. IMHO.
As for the new phones? Well they don't show up in any discussion of the 12 Android phone/devices they are supposed to carry in 2011, most of the slots are already filled with HTC, Samsung, Motorola, Dell products. They have not announced any SE phone agreements, there are no actual rumors of any phones on ATT only assumptions.
Rogers, and Verizon have been confirmed as Xperia Play carriers. Verizon is supposed to have some sort of exclusive on it for the short term. Maybe SE will also put it on Sprint. There may be official unlocked versions available from the Sony Style stores and unlocked Rogers on ebay as in the past.
Frankly, IMHO, Arc and Neo are meh phones hardware wise compared to some of the others announced. Play is the one phone that is truly different with the game controllers, but the question becomes 'How Much?' I'm not going to pay a few hundred for any of these, and I'm beholding to my X10 until 2012 like most ATT customers who got the X10a.
The NGP (now the PSP2) is not supposed to out-price a PS3 ($299). It's much more powerful than the Play and is supposed to have 3G. If you are really a gamer, wouldn't you rather have a PSP2? and a bluetooth headset?
I can't see the Play going unlocked for $500 or 600. It just doesn't have the kind of specs for that, and $250(?) on contract still seems pricey for something that doesn't have 500mb internal storage and LTE/HSPDA+ chips or a dual core.

The search for a sim free LT15a (UMTS 850)....

There seems to be quite a few people wanting an Arc to suit AT&T, Telstra, Rogers, etc.
I have posted a message here:
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/produ...its-the-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-149670
And Rikard replied saying he will try to find out what is available for us.
If any one has any info about availability of the LT15a, please post it here.
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Late April for Rogers: http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/03/31/r...and-arc-launching-late-april-99-99-on-3-year/

I did add another request to make sure he sees the demand. Hopefully he gets some answers.

I don't like creating new post while there are some existing. Rogers will have the ARC out by end of this month (maximum in 26 days) has anyone else in the world getting arc working on 850? Brazil?
People with Rogers, have they release any price without contract yet?
Thanks

I found this page, where they say they have an HSDPA 850/1900/2100/800
http://www.bestnydepot.com/sony-ericsson-xperia-x12-arc-anzu.html
Is it a mistake?.

haroldmk said:
I found this page, where they say they have an HSDPA 850/1900/2100/800
http://www.bestnydepot.com/sony-ericsson-xperia-x12-arc-anzu.html
Is it a mistake?.
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and I assume that you have read the description too:
Quick Overview
The specifications suggest that Cliaro (possibly Xperia X12) will have TI OMAP4 1.5GHz processor, Android 2.2 (Froyo) and a 4-inch AMOLED 1080×720 resolution screen. The 10mm thick Xperia X12 is also expected to sport a 12 megapixel camera.
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I called one of these re-seller which have no clue whatsoever about the arc. He said that this is what SE website stating and they have all the HSDPA band included in one phone and after I insisted, he went actually and test the phone with this sim-card and convinced that it does not have the 850 band.

Nimche said:
and I assume that you have read the description too:
I called one of these re-seller which have no clue whatsoever about the arc. He said that this is what SE website stating and they have all the HSDPA band included in one phone and after I insisted, he went actually and test the phone with this sim-card and convinced that it does not have the 850 band.
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Oops, of course I didnt read the description and I went directly to specs

Really looking forward to the UMTS 850Mhz Arc. If anyone has any information, kindly share please!

Is there any generic LT15a? Telstra doesn't get one since they gave it to orange and optus
Rogers is the only one we all know is getting it but what about other countries in america?
Waiting may be dangerous for me

Rogers is releasing it between 14-21st of April ie what most sources and Rogers said
Nimche said:
Is there any generic LT15a? Telstra doesn't get one since they gave it to orange and optus
Rogers is the only one we all know is getting it but what about other countries in america?
Waiting may be dangerous for me
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Rogers is releasing it between 14-21st of April ie what most sources and Rogers said Sent from my X10i using Tapatalk
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@ least its nice that you guys don't have to deal with ATT. I think their wireless department is completely dead.

I thought this is the only place I can share my pain (reminding me when I was waiting for my X10a) when it comes to gadgets I am like a 2 years old baby screaming.
Checking everyday for a sign of LT15a on ebay or anywhere else but no sign and more killer feeling. Am I the only one in pain?

Nimche said:
I thought this is the only place I can share my pain (reminding me when I was waiting for my X10a) when it comes to gadgets I am like a 2 years old baby screaming.
Checking everyday for a sign of LT15a on ebay or anywhere else but no sign and more killer feeling. Am I the only one in pain?
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Here the same. I guess we will see it on ebay once Rogers release LT15a. I hope Rogers will sell it without a contract.

haroldmk said:
Here the same. I guess we will see it on ebay once Rogers release LT15a. I hope Rogers will sell it without a contract.
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There was a second price leak from Rogers showing the off contract price for 549 CA Dollar.
But I am assuming that lots of people get them and sell them on eBay. Its like taking forever now.
Sony Ericsson in the USA sucks in releasing information and services.

Nimche said:
Checking everyday for a sign of LT15a on ebay or anywhere else but no sign and more killer feeling. Am I the only one in pain?
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I am too even though the hardware specs on Arc don't get me too excited, I just want a change from X10a. I almost used X10 for a year. I wanted to give Galaxy S2 a chance but even that is pushed further and the wait is killing me.

kitsVA said:
I am too even though the hardware specs on Arc don't get me too excited, I just want a change from X10a. I almost used X10 for a year. I wanted to give Galaxy S2 a chance but even that is pushed further and the wait is killing me.
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Yes the hardware was important once for me when I got my HD2 as soon as it came out but then design was more important and hardware won't play a big difference for me since I am more for the design and how the phone feels. To me ARC specs are reasonably good for what it is.
I am also going from X10a and arc should be a good replacement. Galaxy S2 is pushed back to May or June?

Just called Rogers to see what it's going to cost to do an early upgrade from my X10a. They don't have it in the system yet so they couldn't give me a price :-( Will try later on.
Not sure if I should stick with branded Rogers to get retain that awesome warranty they have or if I should screw the warranty and go with a unbranded version. The warranty is important because I run & bike with my X10a (since I found a great fitness app) so I think it's just a matter of time before I kill it.

AdamUpNorth said:
Just called Rogers to see what it's going to cost to do an early upgrade from my X10a. They don't have it in the system yet so they couldn't give me a price :-( Will try later on.
Not sure if I should stick with branded Rogers to get retain that awesome warranty they have or if I should screw the warranty and go with a unbranded version. The warranty is important because I run & bike with my X10a (since I found a great fitness app) so I think it's just a matter of time before I kill it.
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One thing that I am not sure is when you buy it from Rogers buy off contract would that be unbranded or not(I assume not) but unless you buy lt15a from Rogers I don't know anywhere else selling them at this moment.
This was the one last leaked out on April 4th HERE about pricing.

I feel your pain too Nimche.
I've tried contacting se to no avail. You wouldn't think they would make it so difficult to buy their products. No info from se at all.
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Hyper x10 soon to be Hyper arc(a)
Well, I just chatted with SE rep in the US and no news. They keep saying availabliity in some markets and I can't find any answer what market are they talking about. I should go find a friend in Canada to get me one as soon as it is out.
I checked here on Firmware roll-outs and it pretty much like LT15i except lt15a had one sooner than (i)
SOURCE
Hope to see some lights soon or find a contact @ SE with some answers.

Rogers - Canada is throwing a Launch Party for Xperia ARC & Play on April 13th which is next Wedensday and MobileSyrup is giving out ticket which you can win HERE
Good Luck everyone.

Xperia Z1 possibly on AT&T or T-Mobile

Just called Sony to get a new charger for my ion and happened to ask about the Z1. Apparently they have a contract with AT&T and that more than likely it will be released to them, if not T-Mobile. This could be another 6 months from now, but for those of you, such as myself, who have AT&T i thought this was good news. Hopefully it will put Sony on the map and allow them to release more high-end phones in the US on major carriers.

liljamjam said:
Just called Sony to get a new charger for my ion and happened to ask about the Z1. Apparently they have a contract with AT&T and that more than likely it will be released to them, if not T-Mobile. This could be another 6 months from now, but for those of you, such as myself, who have AT&T i thought this was good news. Hopefully it will put Sony on the map and allow them to release more high-end phones in the US on major carriers.
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This is nice news! It's a shame I don't see much in the way of any hint as to when this may come out in the U.S., I really hope it's not another six months, I'm not willing to spend $800 on this thing as much as I like it :/

liljamjam said:
Just called Sony to get a new charger for my ion and happened to ask about the Z1. Apparently they have a contract with AT&T and that more than likely it will be released to them, if not T-Mobile. This could be another 6 months from now, but for those of you, such as myself, who have AT&T i thought this was good news. Hopefully it will put Sony on the map and allow them to release more high-end phones in the US on major carriers.
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Could it be the 14 spring model, since somebody mentioned that att's not going to carry any Sony this year
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greatremix said:
Could it be the 14 spring model, since somebody mentioned that att's not going to carry any Sony this year
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Not gonna argue with that, sounds even better to me. And remember, "this year" is almost over

@evleaks just tweeted a T-Mobile branded Z1 today.

MRMNYC said:
This is nice news! It's a shame I don't see much in the way of any hint as to when this may come out in the U.S., I really hope it's not another six months, I'm not willing to spend $800 on this thing as much as I like it :/
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I see what ur saying about not willing/wanting to pay $800 for this phone, but i've had my C6903 for about a week now on T-Mobile LTE and all i can say is that it's nothing short of AWESOME. It's the first phone in quite a while that feels premium enough to keep for a while... and i've had ALOT of phones (about 6 just this year). And did i mention LTE! And another plus of the unlocked version: bluetooth internet sharing right out of the box! :good:

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I see what ur saying about not willing/wanting to pay $800 for this phone, but i've had my C6903 for about a week now on T-Mobile LTE and all i can say is that it's nothing short of AWESOME. It's the first phone in quite a while that feels premium enough to keep for a while... and i've had ALOT of phones (about 6 just this year). And did i mention LTE! And another plus of the unlocked version: bluetooth internet sharing right out of the box! :good:
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@evleaks just tweeted a T-Mobile branded Z1 today.
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Great to hear! It sounds like you got the LTE version in time since it looks like T-Mobile is going to carry it, but not AT&T. Just out of curiosity, what kind of download/upload speeds are you getting and where are you based? I'm in NY, and on AT&T -- when LTE was first introduced here, I was getting 30 down and 40 up, but nowadays, it's about 10 up and down. I may make the jump of carriers if the speed and network is OK.
Based on the EVLeaks photo, it seems it's a slightly modified version that will come out with T-Mobile, so, we'll see. Man, it's great being a consumer in a competitive market -- it sounds like Sony may be coming out with a new flagship in early 2014 using the WhiteMagic panel (http://www.androidauthority.com/jdi-super-bright-full-hd-displays-282810/) and with that one, hopefully Sony decides to go full force in the US. I'm also liking the rumors I'm hearing about the Samsung S5 thus far (water-resistant/proof, octacore, etc.). Decisions, decisions, decision!!!

where did you guys ordered yours? do you need an account on Sony to order one? or did you order it here in the States?
Thanks

I just picked up a Z waiting for the Z1 to be released on T-Mobile and the rep said "soon".
So I ran across this on the T-Mobile UK site http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/pay-monthly/sony-xperia-z1-black/
Why isn't this available on T-Mobile US?

I bought my z1 off Craigslist. I'm on t-mobile 70 $ month unlimited data text and calls. I'm in Philadelphia. This is the speeds I get
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still waiting for this phone to be released with LTE

samven582 said:
still waiting for this phone to be released with LTE
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I don't remember about the other models, but I ordered a c6906 model, Telus branded from Canada, and it has LTE Bands for both T-Mobile and AT&T.

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I don't remember about the other models, but I ordered a c6906 model, Telus branded from Canada, and it has LTE Bands for both T-Mobile and AT&T.
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but there is no warrenty when you import

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but there is no warrenty when you import
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Damn, I forgot about that. Oh well, I take care of my stuff, and haven't been unfortunate enough to have anything severely damaged. I just hope there aren't any defects to worry about

I have a c6903 on tmobile. Insured for 6.99$month is fine enough for me. C6906 has all the lte bands. By the time this hits USA carriers it'll be old
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stealthj said:
I have a c6903 on tmobile. Insured for 6.99$month is fine enough for me. C6906 has all the lte bands. By the time this hits USA carriers it'll be old
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Same here. Got a C6903 from Clove UK along w/the SW2 for free. i didn't opt for a warranty but take care of my phones.
so far it works great on Tmobile and good on ATT and 3G only. Tmobile you can get LTE/4G if you have it in the area.

For us in the US

I've never bought a newly released International flagship phone before, so I'll be interested in knowing what's the best place to go about purchasing a Z2? This phone actually has me excited and I'll probably won't wait for a carrier version to show up, I'm sure I'm going to buy a International version. Is $800 about the right price one is expected to pay as I already see a eBay seller preselling them at that price.
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http://m.clove.co.uk/sony-xperia-z2
Clove is your best bet. I already preordered mine
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Hes known with a reliable source
DACHA from esato
Those in the US wanting the Z2 will have to wait until July. It will be available for Sprint, Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile. The international version D6503 supports all the US LTE bands and it will work on AT&T and T-Mobie with no issues. I will be importing mine since I don't want to wait for another 5 months.
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http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=206261&start=2460
I would rather get a unlocked bootloader instead of a locked one (from carriers)

Been wondering this myself. Pretty interested in the Z2 but don't know the best place to order one to get it sooner than later.

gclancer said:
http://m.clove.co.uk/sony-xperia-z2
Clove is your best bet. I already preordered mine
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Will this work on att network?
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My guess it will be on store.sony.com here in the states a month or two after the international release. They did this with the Z, Z1 and Z Ultra. Just may take a little more time.

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Will this work on att network?
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Yes. It also supports all of AT&T's LTE bands.

MOD Edit: Comment removed Needs to hit my hometown store tomorrow at 10 am
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Does international version work with T-Mobile's AWS bands for T-Mobile 4G HSPA+ full speed?

LitoNi said:
Hes known with a reliable source
DACHA from esato
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=206261&start=2460
I would rather get a unlocked bootloader instead of a locked one (from carriers)
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Wow, I wonder where he's getting that from. It'll be a shame if it really is that long. Ouch.

se1000 said:
Wow, I wonder where he's getting that from. It'll be a shame if it really is that long. Ouch.
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USA is always late in the game, even Canada got the Z1 earlier than the states lol. So even if his source isnt reliable, I can judge from the launch of Z1.
TBH, you cant really blame Sony, it is mostly the carriers' fault. Like i said before, if you want a unlocked bootloader for custom roms and kernels, stay away from carriers' phones.

LitoNi said:
USA is always late in the game, even Canada got the Z1 earlier than the states lol. So even if his source isnt reliable, I can judge from the launch of Z1.
TBH, you cant really blame Sony, it is mostly the carriers' fault. Like i said before, if you want a unlocked bootloader for custom roms and kernels, stay away from carriers' phones.
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Yeah, I caved, pre-order with clove.uk in! I WANT THIS PHONE!

se1000 said:
Yeah, I caved, pre-order with clove.uk in! I WANT THIS PHONE!
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forgot to mention that cNet said Sony is already in the talks with US carriers, but due to the fact that Z1 was launched not long ago, Z2 will be pushed back.
Honestly, if you are going to get a Z2 through a carrier from the states, dont bother... either wait for Z3 which will be most likely be announced at IFA (September) or order Z2 through online stores like clove etc...

LitoNi said:
forgot to mention that cNet said Sony is already in the talks with US carriers, but due to the fact that Z1 was launched not long ago, Z2 will be pushed back.
Honestly, if you are going to get a Z2 through a carrier from the states, dont bother... either wait for Z3 which will be most likely be announced at IFA (September) or order Z2 through online stores like clove etc...
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I don't think you read my post right. I put my preorder in with cove uk.

I agree.. If its going to be released in July, better off just waiting for the LG G3, will most likely have 805 processor and OIS

Unlocked mobiles also is selling pre orders.
http://www.unlocked-mobiles.com/sim-free-mobile-phones/sony-xperia-z2-sim-free-p-84674.html
They're also giving away some bluetooth speakers and those digital noise canceling earphones
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Its expensive though to pre-order right now. Will the price drop later?

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Its expensive though to pre-order right now. Will the price drop later?
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Probably not till after release

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forgot to mention that cNet said Sony is already in the talks with US carriers, but due to the fact that Z1 was launched not long ago, Z2 will be pushed back. .
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Hmm, I don't know... None of the US carriers ever had the Z1. T-mobile launched the Z1S variant about a month ago, but that's it.
I don't think Z2 will be pushed back for that reason. Actually, I'm not even sure if it will be available on US carriers. Maybe T-Mobile, eventually.
In the US, I think our only options will be:
- Pre-order from the UK and pray there are no defects, etc.
- Wait for US importers like Negri to get them (and probably jack up the price a bit)
- Wait for the Sony Store or web site to offer them. This is probably our best bet, but no idea when they'll actually have them.
- Or lastly, wait for T-mobile to release the Z2S with a locked bootloader about 1 month before the release of the Z3

Not to mention if the Z2 ever comes out over here the carriers might alter the design like T-Mobile did to the Z1s.. Plastic frame instead of aluminum..

Will the Z1s ever see KitKat ?

Just looking to gauge the feelings of the z1s owners regarding updates. Given that we may never be able flash stock FTFs we will be waiting for an extra few months at least after the non-carrier phones get updates. Assuming we get any updates at all. It took 5 months for the Xperia z 6906 to get 4.2.2 after the unbranded devices. 4.3 is nowhere in sight. Of course updates are not the be all end all or we would all buy a Nexus 5, but it is dissapointing.
Accessories is another area where we are severely limited also.
I dont regret getting the Z1s, the $100 visa and PS+ offers alone made it a worthwhile purchase. Im happy with the build quality, camera and overall user experience.
Just looking for feedback from the owners here.

I think it will and my gut tells me it won't take us as long to get it as it did with T-Mobile Xperia Z owners. A few reasons I feel this was way.
1. Sony is really building a good relationship with T-Mobile. It seems to be growing more and more.
2. This phone is already selling better then the Z did for The-Mobile. More owners means more hungry customers awaiting the update, word of mouth.
3. Sony is doing more to expand brand awareness in NA.
Those all have a lot to do with the priority of the update. I say once the non-carrier branded phones get it, maybe 2-3 months later we'll get it? Just a guess...
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I think it will and my gut tells me it won't take us as long to get it as it did with T-Mobile Xperia Z owners. A few reasons I feel this was way.
1. Sony is really building a good relationship with T-Mobile. It seems to be growing more and more.
2. This phone is already selling better then the Z did for The-Mobile. More owners means more hungry customers awaiting the update, word of mouth.
3. Sony is doing more to expand brand awareness in NA.
Those all have a lot to do with the priority of the update. I say once the non-carrier branded phones get it, maybe 2-3 months later we'll get it? Just a guess...
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These are all good points. I was on the fence about the Z1s and ultimately went and got the Z1 Compact instead from overseas. Anyway, one other thing I wanted to mention is that T-Mobile recently has been very good with updates. I have an LG G2 on T-Mobile which I purchased thinking there was absolutely no chance of timely updates. To my surprise, KitKat arrived on Friday and made my day. Know this isn't a Sony and I'm not trying to go off-topic here, but I have been very impressed with T-Mobile releasing updates over the last few weeks. Maybe the same will hold true for the Z1S. It would be horrible for them to drop support for it. I think the ball is in Sony's court at this point since none of the phones have KitKat.
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All three are very great points. Admittedly I am not as confident mainly because I see Sony releasing almost one or two new phones per month and I fear they are stretching themselves thin on resources to push out updates. I believe their intent is 18 months of updates for Xperia devices.
Their T-Mobile relationship is an interesting one, I have to admit that I wasn't happy with the fact that Sony refused to release an unbranded LTE Z or Z1 in the US. I also couldn't understand why they were doing this. I think its now clearly obvious they did this to avoid competing with T-Mobile. I suppose they have to take steps to build relationships with the carrier but I was disappointed all the same to have to wait for an LTE version. It appears that the converse of this is also true in that any device that DOES make it into the Sony Store (physical or online) with LTE, is likely NOT going to end up on any carrier (think Z Ultra).
Personally, I think 5-6 months (after Z1) wait before we see KitKat on the Z1s. Nice to hear that it is selling well though.

goon3r said:
All three are very great points. Admittedly I am not as confident mainly because I see Sony releasing almost one or two new phones per month and I fear they are stretching themselves thin on resources to push out updates. I believe their intent is 18 months of updates for Xperia devices.
Their T-Mobile relationship is an interesting one, I have to admit that I wasn't happy with the fact that Sony refused to release an unbranded LTE Z or Z1 in the US. I also couldn't understand why they were doing this. I think its now clearly obvious they did this to avoid competing with T-Mobile. I suppose they have to take steps to build relationships with the carrier but I was disappointed all the same to have to wait for an LTE version. It appears that the converse of this is also true in that any device that DOES make it into the Sony Store (physical or online) with LTE, is likely NOT going to end up on any carrier (think Z Ultra).
Personally, I think 5-6 months (after Z1) wait before we see KitKat on the Z1s. Nice to hear that it is selling well though.
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Carriers have to get their act together. If the Z1 is going to get KK in April, the Tmobile version (almost exact same software) should get it no more than a month later. I might throw a fit if I have to wait till October. By then, 4.5 or 5.0 will be out!
At least let us unlock the BL so we can get KK on there ourselves. Sheesh.

aooga said:
Carriers have to get their act together. If the Z1 is going to get KK in April, the Tmobile version (almost exact same software) should get it no more than a month later. I might throw a fit if I have to wait till October. By then, 4.5 or 5.0 will be out!
At least let us unlock the BL so we can get KK on there ourselves. Sheesh.
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I was planning to wait until the Z3 for my next upgrade, with the hopes of native wireless charging as that is the feature I wish for the most. I can say though that if we are looking at a 5+ month wait for Kit Kat, my Z1s will end up on eBay and will be the last carrier branded device I buy for a while.

Sony promised Kitkat update by Q1 2014, we should get it before end of this month.

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Sony promised Kitkat update by Q1 2014, we should get it before end of this month.
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Then we still have to wait for T-mobile.
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This month.
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Z1 Gets in April, so I think that every new Sony phone will get it then
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Z1 Gets in April, so I think that every new Sony phone will get it then
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We all wish.
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Then we still have to wait for T-mobile.
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The only thing I'll give to tmobile is that they have to implement wifi calling. At least thats some excuse. With ATT, Verizon, and all the other ones, they don't have to do anything but add bloatware that probably needed no change anyway.
Microsoft is doing it right as of now with their developer update program thing (I forgot what it's called). Opt-in, skip the carriers, and get your updates when the manufacturer releases it, not the carrier.

Those of you saying April 2014, have you seen anything from Sony explicitly state a Z1s timeframe ? (Link ?)
I've seen tons of articles/blogs talking about the Z, Z1, Ultra, Tablet Z etc. getting KitKat, but I have not seen anything mentioned about the Z1s.

goon3r said:
Those of you saying April 2014, have you seen anything from Sony explicitly state a Z1s timeframe ? (Link ?)
I've seen tons of articles/blogs talking about the Z, Z1, Ultra, Tablet Z etc. getting KitKat, but I have not seen anything mentioned about the Z1s.
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The Z1s is the same as the Z1...let's be real here, the only difference is T-Mobile. Again, I say 2-3 months after the Z1 gets it. I'd be surprised if we got it sooner but not shocked, no way it takes longer than that though.

Kanes_Inferno said:
The Z1s is the same as the Z1...let's be real here, the only difference is T-Mobile. Again, I say 2-3 months after the Z1 gets it. I'd be surprised if we got it sooner but not shocked, no way it takes longer than that though.
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Given that the xperia z just got 4.3 today when the International model got it in November/December, I'm not so sure when it comes to T-Mobile and their track record updating Sony phones.
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I think I might be trading my Z1s in for an LG G2, or maybe a Nexus 5... When I bought this phone, I didn't expect it to be such a fringe device, with no Root, or unlocked bootloader.
It's a nice phone, with fantastic specs, 32GB, and a wonderful screen... but I'm getting a bad feeling about the speed of updates, and never achieving root.

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Given that the xperia z1s just got 4.3 today when the International model got it in November/December, I'm not so sure when it comes to T-Mobile and their track record updating Sony phones.
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Today??

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Today??
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Sorry, I meant the xperia z. Stupid autocorrect, lol
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jmwils3 said:
Sorry, I meant the xperia z. Stupid autocorrect, lol
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LOL, I was like, "what the?!"

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LOL, I was like, "what the?!"
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Yes, I would be quite upset to get the one z1s that didn't have 4.3,lol.
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I have a strong feeling they will let the z2 sell for 3-6 months or so before releasing kit kat.
it would just make more sense for sony to do this atleast from a marketing position,
besides we only just got jelly bean 4.3 in February
si id estimate a july-september kit kat launch