Is it possible to have stock vanilla android on the gs4 and have the s4 features like hovering hand over locked screen for info?
assasinmaster113 said:
Is it possible to have stock vanilla android on the gs4 and have the s4 features like hovering hand over locked screen for info?
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And I think that would make it stock samsung touchwiz strawberry android.So it's better to use s4 stock roms instead
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There will probably be many mods to make the stock Touchwiz look like AOSP.
But if you are planning to flash an AOSP ROM like CyanogenMod you will lose these features since it's software dependent. CyanogenMod can support it if they want but it's unlikely.
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I reallllllly hate Touchwiz. Back from the days of the Mesmerize on good ol' US Cellular I always have. But the S4 has some cool features, specifically smart stay, air gestures, and the likes. It also has a lot of battery killing BS that I don't need.
Just wondering if it will be possible for developers of AOSP ROMs like AOKP and CM to have the pure google experience with some of the S4 specific features integrated.
I remember on the Epic 4G Touch getting S-Voice from the S3 and it was sketchy and didn't work great. So I'm kind of doubtful, but curious nonetheless.
dbaybay said:
I reallllllly hate Touchwiz. Back from the days of the Mesmerize on good ol' US Cellular I always have. But the S4 has some cool features, specifically smart stay, air gestures, and the likes. It also has a lot of battery killing BS that I don't need.
Just wondering if it will be possible for developers of AOSP ROMs like AOKP and CM to have the pure google experience with some of the S4 specific features integrated.
I remember on the Epic 4G Touch getting S-Voice from the S3 and it was sketchy and didn't work great. So I'm kind of doubtful, but curious nonetheless.
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Hopefully when the Google galaxy s4 is released it will be pure aosp with the added gs4 features.
As with other TW based features the only way we'll see them for AOSP is if Samsung decides to release them ready-to-go on an AOSP build. Based on their history I wouldn't bet on it happening. Look for alternate apps where possible in App Store.
I thought the aosp s4 version that is to be released is probably not going to have all the cool features as our phones just pure stock which probably means none of the air gestures and such which come intergrated with touchjizz.
Why not just root and remove the junk you don't use. Given they aren't tied together somehow.
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durandetto said:
Why not just root and remove the junk you don't use. Given they aren't tied together somehow.
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Already rooted and removed bloatware, but I still dislike Touchwiz. It's colors, fluidity, etc... are just wrong wrong wrong. I want my AOKP back, even CM would be fine. Just dislike Touchwiz so much!
opz187 said:
Hopefully when the Google galaxy s4 is released it will be pure aosp with the added gs4 features.
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I never thought of it like that.
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garwynn said:
As with other TW based features the only way we'll see them for AOSP is if Samsung decides to release them ready-to-go on an AOSP build. Based on their history I wouldn't bet on it happening. Look for alternate apps where possible in App Store.
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would be nice to have a working ir blaster for cm builds..
you think samsung will release the needed materials to get that working?
or do you think the google version will have open source that we can port it to get it working?
opz187 said:
Hopefully when the Google galaxy s4 is released it will be pure aosp with the added gs4 features.
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It would be nice, but it won't happen. Google has already said that it will be a Nexus experience device. No Touchwiz features, I'm afraid.
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maxpower7 said:
It would be nice, but it won't happen. Google has already said that it will be a Nexus experience device. No Touchwiz features, I'm afraid.
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we'll see. especially with jelly bean 4.3 being launched with it, I think they might take advantage of the s4s features
Most S4 features are just that features. Why buy an S4 if those cool features are AOSP (Open Source). HTC can just put it in a future update. We are at a point where going pure android really takes away from a device. Some features aren't worth losing.
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dbaybay said:
I reallllllly hate Touchwiz. Back from the days of the Mesmerize on good ol' US Cellular I always have. But the S4 has some cool features, specifically smart stay, air gestures, and the likes. It also has a lot of battery killing BS that I don't need.
Just wondering if it will be possible for developers of AOSP ROMs like AOKP and CM to have the pure google experience with some of the S4 specific features integrated.
I remember on the Epic 4G Touch getting S-Voice from the S3 and it was sketchy and didn't work great. So I'm kind of doubtful, but curious nonetheless.
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I am running Free GS4 with the 3minit framework and app with nova launcher and I don't really have any tw other than the lockscreen which is really nice with the widgets and everything
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dbaybay said:
Already rooted and removed bloatware, but I still dislike Touchwiz. It's colors, fluidity, etc... are just wrong wrong wrong. I want my AOKP back, even CM would be fine. Just dislike Touchwiz so much!
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o/
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we'll see. especially with jelly bean 4.3 being launched with it, I think they might take advantage of the s4s features
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uhh i think you are mistaken, no phone has any plans currently for 4.3.
dtr145r said:
would be nice to have a working ir blaster for cm builds..
you think samsung will release the needed materials to get that working?
or do you think the google version will have open source that we can port it to get it working?
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the ir blaster is actually just a mix of 2 apks....i pushed them over to /system/app then i flashed slim and ive been using it ever since...just had to fix permissions and whamo.
xxaddictedxx said:
the ir blaster is actually just a mix of 2 apks....i pushed them over to /system/app then i flashed slim and ive been using it ever since...just had to fix permissions and whamo.
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Oh yea?
which 2 apks?
I'm gonna give it a try.
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xxaddictedxx said:
the ir blaster is actually just a mix of 2 apks....i pushed them over to /system/app then i flashed slim and ive been using it ever since...just had to fix permissions and whamo.
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Bump.
Which 2 apks?
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dtr145r said:
Bump.
Which 2 apks?
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Just a guess but "Peel" and "Watchon"?
mick3444 said:
Just a guess but "Peel" and "Watchon"?
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I figured watch on would be one but not sure what the other would be....
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mick3444 said:
Just a guess but "Peel" and "Watchon"?
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did you try this? did it work?
CallumMarks77 said:
did you try this? did it work?
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I tried it and it did not work.
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Does this mean we can FINALLY have a fully functioning 100% working AOSP MMS app?!? Can I just DL the leaked ROM (here) and pull the MMS.apk and get it working? I'm about to try now also, does this mean that AOSP ROMs will be basically 100% stable? Also, since this Google Edition GS4 has all he bells and whistles (Air View, Air Gesture, etc.) does that mean future AOSP ROMs will have the TouchWiz goodies as well?
Joe0113 said:
Also, since this Google Edition GS4 has all he bells and whistles (Air View, Air Gesture, etc.) does that mean future AOSP ROMs will have the TouchWiz goodies as well?
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AFAIK, the Google Edition GS4 does not have the Air <whatever> features. It is Stock Android. No Samsung apps/features
jj14 said:
AFAIK, the Google Edition GS4 does not have the Air <whatever> features. It is Stock Android. No Samsung apps/features
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Pretty sure you're wrong..
Crap, you are right!
Joe0113 said:
Pretty sure you're wrong..
Crap, you are right!
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Samsung S4 TW is awesome... if i got Xperia Z or Htc one i would flash it with google edition rom.. but not with S4...
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Agreed
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It's definitely looking in a good direction, The IR is working on the Google edition from what I have tested using WatchON. I would be interested to see if we could get some of the S-apps over and working, I just don't like how many soft dependencies they have on each other.
Isn't it using the TouchWiz framework though??
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Yes it is Joe BTW we have official liquidsmooth now
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And I am completely overwhelmed by how good this phone is!
I've been away from XDA for a very long time and figured I'd come back and see what the community is like for the S4.
Hopefully I'll be able to contribute towards this awesome phone on here, somehow.
Thanks
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Great, welcome! Now all you need to do is to root and rid your phone from the god-awful TouchWiz framework!
(The above reflects my opinion only. Of course you might like TouchWiz (I mean the UI, not the launcher with the same name))
Theshawty said:
Great, welcome! Now all you need to do is to root and rid your phone from the god-awful TouchWiz framework!
(The above reflects my opinion only. Of course you might like TouchWiz (I mean the UI, not the launcher with the same name))
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Thanks mate!
I cant say im a fan of TouchWiz and am greatly interested in the I9505 stock ROM. I love vanilla android! I'll root it a little later and explore my options
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jimbo.levy said:
Thanks mate!
I cant say im a fan of TouchWiz and am greatly interested in the I9505 stock ROM. I love vanilla android! I'll root it a little later and explore my options
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Coming from a Galaxy Nexus, I wouldn't possibly think you'd like TW.
The vanilla rom is awesome. Running it right now and it's great albeit a little feature-less. I'll run this until I dare jumping to CM
(The vanilla rom I'm running is the m3dd0g's v2 one together with the proper kernel by Ausdim, in case you wanna try those out)
m3dd0g's rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2340783
Ausdim's kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2342298
Do not try Android 4.3 if you want root. In can currently not be rooted and it's almost exactly the same as 4.2 (the 4.3 one is a leak so it's expected to act funnily and not have a lot of features).
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Hello everybodie!!
Well i start this thread just because i´ve allready searched the web quite long enaugh to find out no concrete answer about that if is it possible and secure to upgrade my GS4 GT-i9500 from 4.2.2 samsung touchwizz ROM to the google play edition 4.3 pure android ROM.
I'm awared that some hardware features as some of the sensors are not fully exploited, but i´m an old android user and i'm new on samsung, and the truth is that i miss pure android. I dont use most of the touchwizz features anyway.
I just want a simple, neat and beatiful android phone with the power of the GS4. The thing would be simplier if i'd live in the US, i´d probably just buy the google play edition and lalala. But it's not available in my region. So the only chance i got is to modify my classic GS4 to get what i want.
There are some forums on the web that provide the way to do it, but i don't trust them just because those methods aren´t published here, the place i consider the most reliable one to get info about anything related to these matters.
I´ll be very thankfull if someone can help me.
Well unfortunately, since you have the GT-I9500, which is the octa-core version, you cannot install any of the Google edition Roms for your device as those Roms are for the Qualcomm snapdragon 600, which is the GT-I9505, so unless someone ports it to your specific device, no you cannot install 4.3 unless you want a shiny brick
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To get yourself a pretty clean Android experience. Try CyanogenMod 10.2 for the 9500. Its stability is improving quite fast and its suitable to use as a daily driver as of now. It's just the camera thats not working. But apart from that you get Jelly Bean 4.3 and a super clean and fast UI.
Its worth it!
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ChampMEon said:
To get yourself a pretty clean Android experience. Try CyanogenMod 10.2 for the 9500. Its stability is improving quite fast and its suitable to use as a daily driver as of now. It's just the camera thats not working. But apart from that you get Jelly Bean 4.3 and a super clean and fast UI.
Its worth it!
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Yes listen to him that is the only closest way to experience a form of stock android on your device.
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iPwnapple said:
Yes listen to him that is the only closest way to experience a form of stock android on your device.
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Maybe is better than stock Android, soon major bugs will dissapers
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iPwnapple said:
Well unfortunately, since you have the GT-I9500, which is the octa-core version, you cannot install any of the Google edition Roms for your device as those Roms are for the Qualcomm snapdragon 600, which is the GT-I9505, so unless someone ports it to your specific device, no you cannot install 4.3 unless you want a shiny brick
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ChampMEon said:
To get yourself a pretty clean Android experience. Try CyanogenMod 10.2 for the 9500. Its stability is improving quite fast and its suitable to use as a daily driver as of now. It's just the camera thats not working. But apart from that you get Jelly Bean 4.3 and a super clean and fast UI.
Its worth it!
Searth XDA for CM 10.2 unofficial nightlies
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iPwnapple said:
Yes listen to him that is the only closest way to experience a form of stock android on your device.
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matheus_sc said:
Maybe is better than stock Android, soon major bugs will dissapers
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Well thank you all for your advice.
The camera not working doesn't convince me, so i'll just wait untill CM devs fix it.
Thanks again
I'm not the best when it comes to searching roms. Just wanted to know whether there was a actual android L rom or maybe a heavily themed (I mean really heavy) 4.4 rom for the att s4 (i337 safestrap). Maybe someone could give me some insight or point me in another direction
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malikfaraj96 said:
I'm not the best when it comes to searching roms. Just wanted to know whether there was a actual android L rom or maybe a heavily themed (I mean really heavy) 4.4 rom for the att s4 (i337 safestrap). Maybe someone could give me some insight or point me in another direction
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I don't think roms for Android L are out yet as Google won't be officially releasing it until next month. Then give or take a week or 3 for the devs to get their hands on it and play around with the source code to make some roms.
malikfaraj96 said:
I'm not the best when it comes to searching roms. Just wanted to know whether there was a actual android L rom or maybe a heavily themed (I mean really heavy) 4.4 rom for the att s4 (i337 safestrap). Maybe someone could give me some insight or point me in another direction
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Lots of development is on the bootloader for this phone. A port of L should come when the international S4 gets it.
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