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Does anyone know how production cycles (either for Nexus S or in general) work? In other words, what's considered the second batch/wave of Nexus S being shipped to Best Buy? How early do kinks/issues get hammered out in the production cycle (I guess this depends on how closely Samsung is getting feedback too)? If one were to buy a Nexus S a month from its release date (say mid January 2011, for example's sake), would they be getting a different unit, presumably better, with the kinks/reported issues worked out? How long/many months would it be, give or take, before we can expect a Nexus S with early reported issues addressed?
I'm just trying to understand the relationship between production and markets a little more.
I don't think the second batch would be a better unit per say. If they made a ton right now, then Samsung can slowly manufacture new ones while waiting to hear if there were any major defects, but if they are being sold out in Best Buy stores. I can see the second batch not having any fixes if there were any that needed to be applied. Actually, they could be in production right now. Perhaps by the third or fourth wave, there would be fixes, if any.
According to this Vibrant user, he got a better gps antenna (or something) with the October manufacture ship date. I believe there was also a July and September ship dates for the Vibrant, but don't quote me on that. I know July is fact, but not sure about September.
Just my guess.
I see, thanks. Then I guess there's no real difference getting this phone from now and January.
i was just reading articles (on korean news web site) and it was saying that
samsung will not introduce galaxy s3 in MWC but they might display Galaxy note S instead.
The article also stated that the Galaxy Note S will have ICS, better camera and quadcore CPU..
Now, I don't know if this source is regit and trustful.. but i am definitely interested in, and probably even consider, changing my note to the quadcore ICS Samsung galaxy note for sure
imo i dont think samsung will introduce another note before s3 also i dont think samsung is willing to put an alternative to its own product while it is sales are good.
That would be suicide in my personal opinion. They JUST released this device 3 months ago, and they're going to announce the next one? Do you know how many people would be pissed off, myself included. Especially after paying top dollar (in my case Euro) for a device that they would supposedly be phasing out for its new big brother Note S?
I count this as pure speculation, and it won't happen. I stand corrected if it does, and I would have also lost complete faith in Samsung if they do! That's just bad marketing!!!
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That would be suicide in my personal opinion. They JUST released this device 3 months ago, and they're going to announce the next one? Do you know how many people would be pissed off, myself included. Especially after paying top dollar (in my case Euro) for a device that they would supposedly be phasing out for its new big brother Note S?
I count this as pure speculation, and it won't happen. I stand corrected if it does, and I would have also lost complete faith in Samsung if they do! That's just bad marketing!!!
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+1, you are 100% correct. The Galaxy Note only just came out, only had mine a few months so it's very unlikely they will release another one.
In fact the Note hasn't even been released in the US yet! How can they bring out a newer version when the original is still to be released in America?
I'd say 2013 at the earliest for a Note replacement, not anytime soon...
It's most likely a fake rumour or the Galaxy S III...
Rumors make the world go round.
I don´t think that after the huge success of the S2 and the Note, are the Samsung Mobile managers in any hurry of releasing a next device. From the Note there are already over 1,5 Million devices sold and the phone is not even out in the US.
At the moment the market will stay stable for a while there is really no real competitor to Samsung. HTC is no where near at the moment with their products and LG just failed in my opinion giving the customers the support they deserve.
The strategy is pretty simple. The web will be filled with rumors and speculations for the S3 / possible Note2 just to build up momentum and discussions about it.
Samsung has placed its self as an Apple alternative nr1 at the moment. They will only release an S3 or a Note2 when Apple decides to release the Idumb5.
So expect both devices (Idumb5 and S3) at about the same time (estimate mid summer).
Customer support is the key to success. Give the customer the feeling he is valuable to the company and you will try to keep him satisfied. Especially if he has payed some 600€ for a fricking phone.
i totally agree with you, the new note s won't be in market anytime soon, but i was thinking that samsung might introduce note s in MWC and produce it in the 4th quarter? then again, i have no idea if the writer has regit sources.. but hey, quadcore note.. im totally buying it lol
From what I heard, the Samsung Galaxy Note S was the smaller version of the current Note. Although that's very doubtful because that sort of is the Galaxy S II.
Releasing this phone any time soon would simply mean less money for Samsung, as the Note is still being sold alot, and needs to be sold more in the US too.
I sure hope the Samsung Note S is just a rumour if it, indeed, is the bigger, quad core version of our Note. That'd devastate all the current Note users..
quit whining
Guys,
I am really surprised at the attitude here, why would anyone not want them to release a newer updated version of the Note, a product that is already good but like anything can be made even better.
Technology marches on, the note was announced early summer 2011 yes some of you have only just got them but there will still be people buying galaxy s2 even after the s3 is released or announced.
do you really want to stop progress, it would be like saying our parents saying i dont want anyone to invent CD's because I have just bought a nice tape deck.....
Grow up, quit whining and stop trying to fight the future.
I'll flog my note to some technological dullard and buy a quad core, super amoled plus hd ( non pentile ) rear plate cmos camera equipped G Note S the moment it comes out.
Now a real question is does anyone know if the S-pen will retain pressure sensitivity using the ICS native api or only running wacom drivers......
MG
I am not against the future or development of technology.
I just hope that Note S don't come out TOO SOON. Got it? NOT TOO SOON!
'Cause I don't want my beloved Note is soon defaced by a stupid-same-size-and-design thing!!!
I wrote about this few weeks back,GNote with its 5.3" screen has created a completely new class,and looks like its becoming a hit fast,so Samsung just cant sit back and watch some another company come up with same form factor but with better specs,they have to keep themselves in the lead by beeing few steps ahead of the compitition.
Hence my prediction that we will have a new GNote sometime in the 4th quarter,and ,of course, i will be there to get one ,which also means cutting back my beer consumption,since this thing doesnt come cheap!!.
MAX check your sources.
GSM Arena database:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note-4135.php
The Note was first announced in September 2011 and released in October 2011 (black version). Most phones were delivered in November / December first time and the white devices were first in December there.
We are at the start of February the phone is at the hands of most owners for a maximum of two or three months.
I am one of the owners who frequently changes phone, mostly because its a hobby but I really like the note and I would like to stick to it longer than 3 months before I loose a huge amount of money just because a newer version is out.
I can see a successor to the note only in at aprox year from now as a bigger S3.
These could be a Galaxy Note S or Plus or whatever but I don't think it will be a replacement for Galaxy S2 but just another addition in Samsung product portfolio.
As I wouldn't be happy to get 5 something inch screen because it's too big for me if we speak about phone
http://samsunggalaxys3review.net/long-rumored-white-samsung-galaxy-nexus-officially-announced/
there was an official announcement sometime back on sammobiles, or I should say maybe that was an unofficial news, but the Note S will be unveiled later this year in q4, They just started selling in usa and canada from feb, and invested millions in the super bowl ad, its impossible for note release.
plus its just announced that samsung isnt showing anything at mwc. cheers !
links:
http://phandroid.com/2012/02/08/sam...ce/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
http://www.sammobile.com/2012/01/31/galaxy-siii-march-13th-and-galaxy-s-ii-plus-and-note-s-q4/
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As I wouldn't be happy to get 5 something inch screen because it's too big for me if we speak about phone
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Then what the beep are you doing in the Note forum? Go back to your iPhone fan forums
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Hah! Funny people. Do your really think that Samsung is that stupid? They've invested A LOT of money into the Note, and it sells pretty well, and you think that Samsung will unveil a new model when the US version just got released, and they advertised at the freaking Super Bowl!?
"Yes, let's advertise this product and release a completely new model in a month and burn some serious money".
If they did that people would stop buying the Note and wait for the "Note S", and Samsung would have massive losses. Do you think it's cheap to build and design a phone? No. It costs millions upon millions of dollars.
The natural thing would be to unveil the next gen Note in september again; 12 month after the previous unveiling, like they're doing with the Galaxy S products.
And i'll end this post with a quote:
"When pushed, Ryan Bidan, director of product marketing at Samsung, said that while he wasn’t sure what the model count for his company would be in 2012, he agreed that phone makers should drive down the number of phones. “Sheer SKU proliferation is a problem,” he said."
Maybe it could be the rumored Samsung Galaxy Journal rumored to be coming on Verizon and Sprint (USA). Same 5.3" display and all that but CDMA w/LTE support.
Yup, that might be the case.
why fight the future
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MAX check your sources.
GSM Arena database:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note-4135.php
The Note was first announced in September 2011 and released in October 2011 (black version). Most phones were delivered in November / December first time and the white devices were first in December there.
I can see a successor to the note only in at aprox year from now as a bigger S3.
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Firemaker please keep up.
There was plenty of articles and discussions about samsung note back in august last year and the note or smart-tab-phone ( translation) was allready shown at a number of trade shows in korea througout the summer ( Anyone could read about it ahead of the official release even in mass market blogs like engaget )
Its now february half a year later and I dont understand the alarm and negative comments this is causing.
1) most buyers of these devices dont even read these geek only sites and just buy what they see in the stores... they dont care what *might* be available on worldwide import or other geos
2) very few of the notes users pay 600 anythings £$€ as they just buy phones on contract so its no real loss for them if there is an update
3) Surely any reasonable individual would be pleased if sammy annouce an updated note taking advantage of refreshed technology, we are not talking revolution here, purely an evolution to the current state of the market for a premium device. ( how could any non luddite aurgue this isnt a good thing ?)
4) people are whining they are loosing money ....WTF you bought something its great, so chill out be pleased, something better will come out soon, who cares you havnt lost anything ...if you buy a dell pc and intel release a faster processor six months later will you get upset if dell include it in that model......
we should celibrate these refreshes and be pleased for constant innovation otherwise we would all be still walking around with wap speed data on our tft ipaqs and sony clies instead of hspa oled hd notes.....
maybe they announce TW5 and ICS
May be they will announce a Galaxy Note S with SuperAMOLED Plus?
All the 'S' phones have SuperAMOLED Plus display. YoU never know,
I was "test driving" the GN in Samsung's flagship store in Sratford on a recent trip. I was very impressed with its abilities and my understanding is that an ICS upgrade is in the works.
Before I make the jump though I'm curious as to any rumours about a Galaxy Note II. It has been out for more than six months and considering Samsung's penchant for new models I wouldn't be surprised to hear about a new model release within a few weeks. Hence, was wondering if anyone here would recommend me to just a little patient?
doubt you will see or hear any rumours for at least 6 months
I wouldn't expect it until late fall. Looks like maybe they'll go S series spring, note series fall. However in the mobile market these is always something better around the corner. Many other makes have leaked info on note competitors that should be coming fall as well. If you can wait until Christmas I bet you'll have several 5"+ choices.
On my way to school today I noticed a Samsung booth in the middle of a prominent subway station in Montreal (Place Bonaventure). They had the Galaxy Note 2 and Galaxy Note 10.1 on display for people to try out and ask questions. Naturally I asked if they knew when the Jelly Bean update would be coming to Canada and the guy said the following "I think it's rolling out in the USA so it should be coming soon to Canada, but Canada usually gets it after everyone else". Take from that what you will, it's half right.
Hopefully sales of the Note 10.1 are good, encouraging further development from Samsung. I'd really like to see one with better build quality and better note syncing for viewing on a PC.
Marketing spend is typically a percentage of revenue. Based on their $7.4B in profits in Q3 I'd expect to see a lot more aggressive marketing. Their also supposed to be announcing a rebranding in Q1 2013 that's going to cost over $1B. It's purportedly designed to make them seem less "Korean" and more global while at the same time less cold and more approachable. It's good to be king.
It seems to me that the Note 10.1 marketing is falling off and they are focusing more on the Note 2 phablet.
They really need to get JB on the 10.1 to keep up with the market.
I doubt he had any actual info on that statement.
For me, as long as Samsung keeps its promise (JB before the end of the year), I will be happy. To be honest, I am happy with ICS right now and don't have to have JB.
If you observe Samsung marketing stratergy they will market a product very agresively for a month or two and then they movie on to new product, it happened to S3, Tab2, Note10.1 and then Note2 so that has been their market stratergy for all their products.
What is surprising is for the first time Samsung has rebranded its product that means they want to re market the product as they feel there more potential to it
Seriously, it's releasing in 2 days and no pricing or availability details??
This is ridiculous.
Has a company ever announced a product and simply never released it?
Others are noticing this too:
http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/9/22/4759120/wheres-the-samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition
Probably the tablet won't release in 2 days...
Guich said:
Probably the tablet won't release in 2 days...
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Frakking liars.
September 25, pshh.
I thought Samsung said October release... at least for the USA .
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I thought Samsung said October release... at least for the USA .
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Yes, but Sept 25 for over 100 countries. If there was such a massive launch scheduled within 2 days, don’t you think we’d hear something about it? Pricing, which European stores were going to carry it, unboxing videos, hands-on reviews with retail units, etc.
But nothing!
So this makes me think that those countries aren’t getting it soon. And if they are delayed, then you better believe we will be, too.
This blows.
In italy nobody have notice about the new Note...
I did a quick search for Samsung's IFA 2013 announcement's and The Verge noted the GN10.1 2014 Edition was slated for an October release with no specific date provided. Just figures.
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Yes, but Sept 25 for over 100 countries. If there was such a massive launch scheduled within 2 days, don’t you think we’d hear something about it? Pricing, which European stores were going to carry it, unboxing videos, hands-on reviews with retail units, etc.
But nothing!
So this makes me think that those countries aren’t getting it soon. And if they are delayed, then you better believe we will be, too.
This blows.
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I have seen no official release date from Samsung for anywhere. I have seen speculation all over the place including Sept 24, Sept 25 and Oct 4. Nut all of those dates have come from blogs and rss news, nothing official.
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According to this article it won't be available in Canada until November.
http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/122...5-great-items-to-its-galaxy-family-of-devices
According to Samsung Switzerland (on Facebook) we'll be getting it 'mid-october', the LTE version 'end of october'.
For a device that's supposed to be available in three weeks, I find this lack of information very strange.
I don't get why so many tech companies don't get this. This is why Apple is as successful as it is, they don't pull this kind of thing.
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According to Samsung Switzerland (on Facebook) we'll be getting it 'mid-october', the LTE version 'end of october'.
For a device that's supposed to be available in three weeks, I find this lack of information very strange.
I don't get why so many tech companies don't get this. This is why Apple is as successful as it is, they don't pull this kind of thing.
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Galaxy Note 3 (deservedly) Galaxy Gear (not so deservedly) is taking all the attention it appears. However, they could throw us a bone here and there. I know that they don't expect a lot of sales but still, as I said in another thread, if you want to gain loyal customers, you don't pull this kind of stuff.
Pull what kind of stuff?
They showed a upcoming product, never announced a release date, and have yet to do so (likely because they don't have one yet). I'm not sure what the alternative is other than to just make one up and then miss it?
Personally I'd rather them wait to announce anything until it's a sure bet and I respect them for that.
Nothing pisses me off more than having a release date and it gets missed or there is a shortage.
I really don't understand the current hysteria lol...
Looks like this may shed some light on when it's coming....
http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/09/23/s...-and-galaxy-s4-mini-to-canada-on-october-4th/
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I'm selling my current note and moving on to the surface pro or either the Lenovo yoga 11s. I was going to get the new note but I need more power.
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It's impossible
I don't want buy the tablet at November, i need this before.
Guich said:
It's impossible
I don't want buy the tablet at November, i need this before.
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My Prediction based on the roll out of roms for the Wifi & WIFI+3G Variants
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457074
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457071
That these variants will be released as rumored before end of September early October. ( which seems promising for Middle east, Africa & European countries )
The LTE 4G version seems to be released on a later stage - probably November. ( For North America )
lsherif said:
My Prediction based on the roll out of roms for the Wifi & WIFI+3G Variants
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457074
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457071
That these variants will be released as rumored before end of September early October. ( which seems promising for Middle east, Africa & European countries )
The LTE 4G version seems to be released on a later stage - probably November. ( For North America )
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I will buy the 4G edition...
Will see, samsung fail atm!
Screw this. If they keep us in the dark, I'll just go with IPad 5.
Bring on the flamers, I don't care.
codeman05 said:
Pull what kind of stuff?
They showed a upcoming product, never announced a release date, and have yet to do so (likely because they don't have one yet). I'm not sure what the alternative is other than to just make one up and then miss it?
Personally I'd rather them wait to announce anything until it's a sure bet and I respect them for that.
Nothing pisses me off more than having a release date and it gets missed or there is a shortage.
I really don't understand the current hysteria lol...
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I agree, a release date that is announced but then not honored is also very annoying.
What I mean is that they announce a device, with some kind of release date (at least an approximate one; at least in some areas) but yet there is very little information (for example the price) out there fore interested customers.
In my opinion, if you announce a device you need to be able to present a release schedule and reccommended retail pricing. Otherwise people are going to get excited about your device at the announcement but then get frustrated during the wait of indeterminate length.
This is the example that I experienced: The Note is announced at the end of august. Weeks later, online stores (where I live) still didn't have it in their catalogue and asking customer support, they said they had no info about it, be it price, release date or even if they will have it, because they were not informed by samsung. When the new iPhones were announced the stores had them in their catalogues on the same day, pricing, release date and all. Today you can buy the new iPhones, which were announced two weeks after the Note, of which there is still no sight.
From a marketing point of view it just doesn't make sense to me. You spend a lot of money and effort announcing your device, trying to get people excited over it. But because people can not act on their excitement (for a long time) all that energy just dissipates, instead of it going into pre-orders/sales.
well you can play with the firmware already ;] i uploaded it to my server for fast dl http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457067 njoy
The_Maverick said:
I agree, a release date that is announced but then not honored is also very annoying.
What I mean is that they announce a device, with some kind of release date (at least an approximate one; at least in some areas) but yet there is very little information (for example the price) out there fore interested customers.
In my opinion, if you announce a device you need to be able to present a release schedule and reccommended retail pricing. Otherwise people are going to get excited about your device at the announcement but then get frustrated during the wait of indeterminate length.
This is the example that I experienced: The Note is announced at the end of august. Weeks later, online stores (where I live) still didn't have it in their catalogue and asking customer support, they said they had no info about it, be it price, release date or even if they will have it, because they were not informed by samsung. When the new iPhones were announced the stores had them in their catalogues on the same day, pricing, release date and all. Today you can buy the new iPhones, which were announced two weeks after the Note, of which there is still no sight.
From a marketing point of view it just doesn't make sense to me. You spend a lot of money and effort announcing your device, trying to get people excited over it. But because people can not act on their excitement (for a long time) all that energy just dissipates, instead of it going into pre-orders/sales.
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Bravo!