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My nexus 10 froze two times today ( pretty normal, it usually freezes about 5 times a day) but today, a strange sound came out of it ( "rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" )
I don't know if it were the speakers or if it came from somewhere inside the tablet... I am very disappointed, I sold my transformer tf101 because it froze 3 times in a week, that was already to much for me. Why can't Google just fix it ? Or are they working on a fix ?
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Are you on a custom kernel? That sounds similar to the CPU crashing and hanging, thus the repeated noise
try setting your cpu governor to performance if you have a custom rom or kernel. solved the issues with rebooting for me (for the most part)
Well, you have to determine why the tablet is rebooting. If the device is getting noticeably hot and there is a "slideshow" effect then it is a indicator that it is being thermally throttled. Changing the governor won't necessarily fix this and in some cases can exacerbate it.
If you are indeed on a custom kernel, then then the kernel crashed. If its a reoccurring event then I would look at flashing a different kernel (Ktoonz or another) and seeing if that fixes the issue.
I haven't installed a custom kernel or custom rom, I not even rooted. On the left side of the camera ( when holding in landscape) the tablet gets very hot while playing simple games like pudding monsters. Is that normal ? Happens it to anyone else ?
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There is currently a theory (tested by members and mostly supported by gathered data found in this thread) that the CPU does not have a temperature sensor and instead estimates temperature based on an equation. According to the member who did some testing, the equation is way off from the actual temperatures. This can cause freezing (due to lag from thermal throttling) which would account for the sound or the random reboots as the temperature equation reaches a critical point and reboots the device.
I would pay attention to the KT Manta kernel thread as there's some interesting research going on over there. I can say having used that kernel from day one, 100 MHz to 1.7 GHz and extremely undervolted I haven't experience a single instance of throttling or rebooting. The only reboots I've had were when I was dialing in my undervolts. I tried messing with the GPU voltage, but mine appears to be somewhat picky and I really couldn't undervolt the GPU much. The CPU on the other hand undervolts like a champ.
However, if the theory that Samsung uses an equation to determine temperature and not an actual sensor, undervolting will have zero effect on "temperature" though it will save battery. Having never encountered thermal throttling (even after significant game play and other activities) I can't speak to that issue. Though I can say that with my undervolt settings, the battery lasts a crazy long time and I have absolutely no performance issues.
it's getting hot within a 10-15 min. last day i have just take 2-3 picture of my friend from N4 and it feel hot in hand and same happened at home also is it normal with N4.
GS150R said:
it's getting hot within a 10-15 min. last day i have just take 2-3 picture of my friend from N4 and it feel hot in hand and same happened at home also is it normal with N4.
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You may use an app such as System Tuner to watch your CPU temperature. Mine get 50 celcius after 15minutes playing NFS MW... I dont know if it is still normal.
What version are you on? Mine used to be uncomfortably warm, but since 4.2.2, that has been fixed for me.
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GS150R said:
it's getting hot within a 10-15 min. last day i have just take 2-3 picture of my friend from N4 and it feel hot in hand and same happened at home also is it normal with N4.
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Hi,
It feels hot... its very subjective without a real measured CPU or battery temp. Like opticaldh said, install an app with monitoring CPU temp and see. What kernel ?
Also what is the battery temp?
opticaldh said:
You may use an app such as System Tuner to watch your CPU temperature. Mine get 50 celcius after 15minutes playing NFS MW... I dont know if it is still normal.
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Hi,
Normal with these kind of games... But without more informations, overclock, underclock, undervolt, what kernel?
In any case with such of but playing heavy game I don't see where is the problem.
You can also search in the Nexus 4 General and Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting sections there is another threads...
nhatters said:
What version are you on? Mine used to be uncomfortably warm, but since 4.2.2, that has been fixed for me.
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at first use it feel hot(over a wifi) at the top of the back panel then (with 4.2.2)i tried to connect it to my pc running win-xp but fail in between it behaves abnormal after some 2-3 restart it work pretty normal(now i am using Bluetooth to share data to pc) but still some lag in touch and heating problem.
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Hi,
It feels hot... its very subjective without a real measured CPU or battery temp. Like opticaldh said, install an app with monitoring CPU temp and see. What kernel ?
Also what is the battery temp?
Hi,
Normal with these kind of games... But without more informations, overclock, underclock, undervolt, what kernel?
In any case with such of but playing heavy game I don't see where is the problem.
You can also search in the Nexus 4 General and Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting sections there is another threads...
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at first use it feel hot(over a wifi) at the top of the back panel then (with 4.2.2)i tried to connect it to my pc running win-xp but fail in between it behaves abnormal after some 2-3 restart it work pretty normal(now i am using Bluetooth to share data to pc) but still some lag in touch and heating problem.
viking37 said:
Hi,
Normal with these kind of games... But without more informations, overclock, underclock, undervolt, what kernel?
In any case with such of but playing heavy game I don't see where is the problem.
You can also search in the Nexus 4 General and Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting sections there is another threads...
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I am on Franco kernel, fast CPU, UV 150 (Default for 384Hz is 850, now it is 700). That's what makes me worry.
My Nexus has been getting uncomfortably hot. I first noticed it last night after getting to a friends place and took the phone out. It was really hot and the battery had dropped about 20% for a 15 minute drive. I checked the battery and Google Maps was showing at the top with the most usage even though it wasn't enabled.
I then proceeded to check the settings in Maps and turned off all the location tracking stuff which was unfortunately enabled.
However, even today my phone was again quite warm after driving around. Battery didn't even show Google Maps so that wasn't the cause.
It may have something to do with signal issues always trying to get the strongest signal as it doesn't happen when I am at home and not moving around.
Maybe your friend is hot
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Please help me.how to overcome or reduce heating problem of nexus 4.
is this your first smartphone? they all get "hot"
Only way to really reduce heat without an impact on performance would be to undervolt. Another way would be to underclock. Both you need a custom kernel to do.
IINexusII said:
is this your first smartphone? they all get "hot"
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Yes! it is.
Detailed said:
Only way to really reduce heat without an impact on performance would be to undervolt. Another way would be to underclock. Both you need a custom kernel to do.
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Which kernel do you preferred.
GS150R said:
Yes! it is.
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well its normal then
@Detailed, @opticaldh, shutup and stop telling people to undervolt, youll just get them into more trouble.
Matrix kernel runs at 288 MHz when idling, you can under volt it at around 650ma there.
I am running Motley kernel, idling at 308 MHz, UV at 700 ma. The only time I notice my n4 getting hot is when I use GPS and charging simultaneously.
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i don't have a problem with heating on my Nexus 4, running latest franco kernel + uv settings makes it a lot cooler than before, when i don't use uv settings it heats up too pretty fast but with those settings it even stays cool on benchmarks and stability tests, cause i don't play on my Nexus 4, could try that out too to see if it gets hot. well it gets slightly warm but never "hot" i would never call it that.
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well its normal then
@Detailed, @opticaldh, shutup and stop telling people to undervolt, youll just get them into more trouble.
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OK.thanks for your help.
jamesc760 said:
Matrix kernel runs at 288 MHz when idling, you can under volt it at around 650ma there.
I am running Motley kernel, idling at 308 MHz, UV at 700 ma. The only time I notice my n4 getting hot is when I use GPS and charging simultaneously.
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OK . I am try this.
Ƶero said:
i don't have a problem with heating on my Nexus 4, running latest franco kernel + uv settings makes it a lot cooler than before, when i don't use uv settings it heats up too pretty fast but with those settings it even stays cool on benchmarks and stability tests, cause i don't play on my Nexus 4, could try that out too to see if it gets hot. well it gets slightly warm but never "hot" i would never call it that.
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OK. I am try this.
I know that overheating in nexus 4 is common problem, but today after installing custom ROM CyanogenMod 10.1 my phone has started overheating more quickly. Is anybody know any solution of it?
Pawan24 said:
I know that overheating in nexus 4 is common problem, but today after installing custom ROM CyanogenMod 10.1 my phone has started overheating more quickly. Is anybody know any solution of it?
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overheating i doubt, what was the cpu and battery temperature? just because it feels warm, doesnt mean its overheated. when it actually overheats, first the cpu will lower in cpu speed(safety), then if that doesnt help itll shutdown. is the weather around you warm btw?
+1 @simms22
Also, if it's really getting to warm your phone would run unstable.
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overheating i doubt, what was the cpu and battery temperature? just because it feels warm, doesnt mean its overheated. when it actually overheats, first the cpu will lower in cpu speed(safety), then if that doesnt help itll shutdown. is the weather around you warm btw?
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Thanks for your replay, I still don't understand why my mobile has started getting warmer more quickly ever since I've installed custom rom. I've hardly played any graphics intensive game on it so far.
I don't know from where to know cpu and battery temperature. Do I need to install any application from playstore? Weather around here is warm. On average 35-40 degree temperature.
My phone CPU reaches 70˚C and battery 50˚C when driving in my car, charing with gps on a this time of the year(hot as hell here as well).
Everything seems to be find, didn't even turn itself yet so I doubt theres anything to worry about.
My gf forgot her phone in the car stand in the sun for a few hours, when she came back it wouldn't turn on until it was cooler so you can be sure your phone can take care of itself.
Maybe your governor was changed when you flashed the ROM, depending on the governor (like performance) your cpu clock speed may be increased more often then with the original governor.
You can check your governor with apps like no-frills cpu or setcpu and check the temperatures with cpu z
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Thanks for your replay, I still don't understand why my mobile has started getting warmer more quickly ever since I've installed custom rom. I've hardly played any graphics intensive game on it so far.
I don't know from where to know cpu and battery temperature. Do I need to install any application from playstore? Weather around here is warm. On average 35-40 degree temperature.
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its easier to use an app for battery and cpu temp. being 35-40C around you, id expect the phone to be warm most of the time. anyways, after installing a custom rom your device spends a lot of time syncing stuff. so itll be a little warmer than normal. after about a full battery cycle it should stop, and will be a little cooler. also, a reboot after several hours after a rom flash should help a little too.
Ok, thanks for your quick response.
Ok, played this game on MULTIPLE Androids and even iPhones. The g2 is the only one I've noticed that gets extremely hot within like 5mins of gameplay. I have a temp widget and it goes from low 90deg to 115 + within 5mins of playing the game. When it does this the phone starts to get laggy and the screen gets very jittery and touch sensitive. Possible I have a lemon or anyone else have clash of clans can confirm? ?
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Ok, played this game on MULTIPLE Androids and even iPhones. The g2 is the only one I've noticed that gets extremely hot within like 5mins of gameplay. I have a temp widget and it goes from low 90deg to 115 + within 5mins of playing the game. When it does this the phone starts to get laggy and the screen gets very jittery and touch sensitive. Possible I have a lemon or anyone else have clash of clans can confirm? ?
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I haven't measured an exact temperature, nor have I experienced the lag, etc. But I have noticed that my phone gets a bit hot after having this game open for a short time. I'm guessing it's just a resource intensive game, and since the g2 has the power available, it's taking advantage of it (running at high clock speeds, etc.) causing the phone to heat up some. Sorry I'm not much help, but at least you know you're not the only one out there seeing this.
Wrong Thread.
Try it on a LG Spectrum or Note2,3 if you want to feel hot... Have then all. My G2 stays cooler.
I made a profile in SetCPU for clash of clans so it only can run at 1,5GHz max, now it's not draining the battery that much and doesn't get as hot and strangely I don't see any lag or graphics issues, it's like coc doesn't need that much resource but using it anyway.
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which app you used to customize CPU,and can you please tell me details step to do it.
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I made a profile in SetCPU for clash of clans so it only can run at 1,5GHz max, now it's not draining the battery that much and doesn't get as hot and strangely I don't see any lag or graphics issues, it's like coc doesn't need that much resource but using it anyway.
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which app you used to customize CPU, and can you please tell me details step to do it?
Chethan kumar said:
which app you used to customize CPU, and can you please tell me details step to do it?
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Download SetCPU and set MHz Max to 1500.
Root access is required for the application to be functional.
i have this problem too and installed set cpu . it working well but when i switch from set cpu to any other app like whathsapp or Coc the max frequence automaticlly set to cpu max freguence . for honor it is 1300 . i tested tegra overclock . same result like set cpu . my phone is Honor 3C H30-U10 . sorry for my terrible english .
I have a Galaxy S 3 if I battle once it getting super hot n shuts off n I put a ice pack under it it worked but later found my phone cracked so ???HELP ME
Mediatek chipset based CPUs are overheating abnormally after few minutes playing coc, so i suggest not to play it if you don't want your motherboard to die! My CPU gets abt 80 Celsius playing coc 2 minutes, nothing else even heavy games not causing overheating like coc can do it
Hi all,
Loving the Note 5, but not loving so much how warm it seems to get in my hand, even under light/normal loading. I would be very interested to see some figures from other forum members. To make the test more accurate, I would suggest the following sequence.
MEASUREMENT 1
Close all open apps
Screen brightness 50%
Connect to WiFi (bad cell coverage might raise temperature)
Open App that allows you to see CPU thermal
Let the temperature settle down to a stable marker
Post temperature in celsius (apparently some of the apps have faulty Celsius to Fahrenheit conversion)
MEASUREMENT 2
Close all open apps
screen brightness full
Connect to WiFi (bad cell coverage might raise temperature)
Open App that allows you to see CPU thermal in the background
[*} Use camera app to film in UHD for 1 minute
Multitask switch to CPU temperature app
Read the temperature it reads immediately
Post temperature in celsius
MEASUREMENT 2
Random measurement...
Just any moment when you're doing light/normal stuff
Open the app and read the value in celsius
For me, the results are as follows:
Measurement 1 never goes below 30 degrees.
Measurement 2 was 73 degrees.
Measurement 3 is typically High 30's to high 40's.
1. 32C
2. 70C (within 5 seconds was down to 54C and within 10 seconds down to 42C)
3. 43C
Kaboose666 said:
1. 32C
2. 70C (within 5 seconds was down to 54C and within 10 seconds down to 42C)
3. 43C
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Cool very similar!
Kaboose666 said:
1. 32C
2. 70C (within 5 seconds was down to 54C and within 10 seconds down to 42C)
3. 43C
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it sounds to me that note 45 might throttle badly! anyone tried games on it? dead trigger - vain glory etc!
kamranhaghighi said:
it sounds to me that note 45 might throttle badly! anyone tried games on it? dead trigger - vain glory etc!
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I've been playing KOTOR and hearthstone without any issues or slow downs. Not sure how intensive KOTOR is though.
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I've been playing KOTOR and hearthstone without any issues or slow downs. Not sure how intensive KOTOR is though.
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I don't know about KOTOR either but even my note 4 can handle hearthstone
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I don't know about KOTOR either but even my note 4 can handle hearthstone
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Just played through the tutorial thing in Vainglory and the CPU temp got up to around 60C
game ran just fine, no lag or slow downs from what I could tell.
Kaboose666 said:
Just played through the tutorial thing in Vainglory and the CPU temp got up to around 60C
game ran just fine, no lag or slow downs from what I could tell.
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Good! Maybe I would buy it if i knew i get updates and if it was cheaper!
Anyone else care to chip in? I'm starting to believe the warm in hand feeling is much more pronounced when I'm out and about and using 4G intensely (Youtube + browsing + Spotify). Here at home on WiFi it never gets as warm.
Played Angry birds 2 and PPSSPP emulator(cpu internsive) i do think that the Note 5 throttles, just like G4 or any other phone but not because of the temp, but the Interactive govenor is bugged.
I played tekken 6 on ppsspp and it played 35-50 fps with a bit of lag here and there, change to performance govenor, SAME TEMP, 60fps smooth NO LAG whatsoever, it made AB2 also way smoother.
It's the govenor that might cause the problem, not throttling.
Have to bring this back up to see if anyone is getting cpu spikes.
Coming from a nexus 6 that ran around 95°F on average. My N920T is always jumping from around 115°F to as high as 169°F. The temperature is never constant it's always going high to low. Trying to decide if I should exchange it.
Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated
tb417 said:
Have to bring this back up to see if anyone is getting cpu spikes.
Coming from a nexus 6 that ran around 95°F on average. My N920T is always jumping from around 115°F to as high as 169°F. The temperature is never constant it's always going high to low. Trying to decide if I should exchange it.
Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated
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I've seen mine hit 80C (176F). This SoC just runs hot. Reminds me of Intel's mess called Haswell. Nothing to really worry about.
EtherealRemnant said:
I've seen mine hit 80C (176F). This SoC just runs hot. Reminds me of Intel's mess called Haswell. Nothing to really worry about.
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I've actually exchange that phone for a new one. The new one has a more stable temperature reading and only gets that hot in testing applications. The new one is much better. I couldn't last a day on the old phone, and it lost about 25% while I slept for 5 hours the day before I exchanged it.