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Just received my HD and having trouble with GPS. I went straight into Google Maps and selected Use GPS but after about 3-4 minutes it says that no GPS was found. Going into External GPS settings and unticking 'Manage GPS automatically' results in Google Maps saying that no device was found straight away rather than the 3-4 minute wait.
Any ideas?
EDIT: going into Google Maps options > GPS Settings and setting it to Managed by Windows results in me getting a 'Seeking GPS satellites' message but it stays on 0.
Oppressa said:
Just received my HD and having trouble with GPS. I went straight into Google Maps and selected Use GPS but after about 3-4 minutes it says that no GPS was found. Going into External GPS settings and unticking 'Manage GPS automatically' results in Google Maps saying that no device was found straight away rather than the 3-4 minute wait.
Any ideas?
EDIT: going into Google Maps options > GPS Settings and setting it to Managed by Windows results in me getting a 'Seeking GPS satellites' message but it stays on 0.
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ok now just be patient and go to a place where you can see the sky
getting a fix the first time takes some time. you can speed this up using the QuickGPS under programs. This downloads a satellite prediction map so the receiver can find satellites much quicker. Otherwise the receiver has to scan for bypassing satellites, which can take a few minutes to complete.
check next forum threat: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2923926&posted=1#post2923926
think I had the same problem as you have right now.
Thanks Gogem. I didn't want to but I gave a hard reset a try then went straight to Google Maps and still no luck. After saying it was looking for satellites for 3-4 minutes it said it couldn't connect to GPS, cancel or retry
Oppressa said:
Thanks Gogem. I didn't want to but I gave a hard reset a try then went straight to Google Maps and still no luck. After saying it was looking for satellites for 3-4 minutes it said it couldn't connect to GPS, cancel or retry
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as 6Fg8 mentioned you have to see the sky, inhouse or between tight buildings or in a canyon GPS isn't working. and.. this is by design of GPS (!) it can take up to 12 minutes to find the satellites! Technical background: all GPS infos streamed by the satellites have a very low power and data rate. QuickGPS can reduce this time. So be patient. Maybe a 3rd party app like "GPS Gate" (commercial, but 14 day trial available) may help.
Do you have another device to check the GPS receiving from your position, maybe your Blackstone is broken?
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ps: http://www.kowoma.de/gps/Signalaufbau.htm (sorry, German language)
Thanks. I just installed Co-Pilot 7 and checked the GPS signal. It must be because I'm inside. I can get 3 satellites on the receiver screen so it obviously is working. I'll just need to take it outside and see how I go then.
Oppressa said:
Thanks. I just installed Co-Pilot 7 and checked the GPS signal. It must be because I'm inside. I can get 3 satellites on the receiver screen so it obviously is working. I'll just need to take it outside and see how I go then.
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in theory you need 3 satellites (of total 31 active today) to get your x-y position on earth and (optional) a 4th satellite to get your altitude. each satellit is running in an orbit of 20,000 km. therefore your max height can be 20,000 km ;-)
in praxis you may see ca 6..8 satellites.
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bla3603 said:
in theory you need 3 satellites (of total 31 active today) to get your x-y position on earth and (optional) a 4th satellite to get your altitude. each satellit is running in an orbit of 20,000 km. therefore your max height can be 20,000 km ;-)
in praxis you may see ca 6..8 satellites.
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yes in theory, but a lot of people mistake that as a hard requirement->when you pass, you must have a good reception for routing and such.
if you have seen the satellite graph, hte one with two or three con-centric circles, and satellite in or around those circles
you need at least two satellites in the inner most circle (45 degrees) to get a good lock, otherwise you woudl need more satellites to get a good lock.
the circles represent degrees from the verticle point of reference, ie think of you as the axis, and your feet is the origin.
Yeah in theory you need 3 points to triangulate. But I've never had a GPS give me my lat and long from just 3 satellites.
When I first opened my Polaris some time ago, it would not get a gps lock either. I had ordered an external gps antenna, so I hooked it up and got a lock real quick. Since then, I guess the gps chip in the phone knows what the gps signals taste like, so it always gets quick locks and works like a champ. In fact, it worked so well, I never used the external antenna again
LOL must be one of those new fangled learning chips you have there
JesseW said:
When I first opened my Polaris some time ago, it would not get a gps lock either. I had ordered an external gps antenna, so I hooked it up and got a lock real quick. Since then, I guess the gps chip in the phone knows what the gps signals taste like, so it always gets quick locks and works like a champ. In fact, it worked so well, I never used the external antenna again
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thats the reason why software like quickgps exists, it lets the gps chip smell where the satellites are. kind of odor transmission tool ...
GPS working fine... just no reception indoors that's all. Disappointing seeing as my girlfriend's new kaiser gets a complete signal in a room with 1 window.
Oppressa said:
GPS working fine... just no reception indoors that's all. Disappointing seeing as my girlfriend's new kaiser gets a complete signal in a room with 1 window.
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my touch HD gets signals indoors in three different houses. i was sitting quite far from the window, one of the building is my office -> thick concrete walls, etc. i know i should be cheering, but i'm very confuzzled... HOOOW IS IT WORKING with out a clear sight of the satellites?!?!
I was stunned (in a scary sort of way) just how accurate google maps got me based purely on mobile signal (before it tracked any satellites)...
It put the blue dot about 10feet to the left of where I was standing!
i dont know but i think gps is broken - i am loosing signal while driving in highway if i dont have hand up almost near roof - i made today almost 300km with avg speed 140km/h and touch hd gps *realyworking time* like 1/10 of whole trip. I realy think there must be some serios problem, because my co-driver with iphone google maps have totaly no problem
I think i am having somewhat of a unique problem with this. My "use network to determine location" setting isnt working. When i first turn on or reboot the phone it will find my location as usual. But as soon as i have turned the GPS on this setting will no longer work. Once i turn GPS off it no longer uses the cell towers to determine my location. In fact, when i turn GPS off, my location on google maps jumps back to where i was before i turned GPS on. So when i did this at home, it told me i was still near my work, which is 10 miles away. Anyone else have this issue? It is very frustrating when using an app like sherpa or yelp because it is lot looking for stuff anywhere near where i am.
odd problem. i've read similar things about the gps. Maybe i'm just close to the sattelites, but i get great GPS. In fact, this is the best GPS i've ever gotten from a phone. I've had a ton of smartphones with GPS including blackberry, iphone, iphone 3g, Htc Hero, HTC EVO, and now this Vibrant.
This is the first time, i've had a phone GPS that stayed in the lane the entire way i drove home. Plus it was always right on the spot without delay. The only grievance was it took about a minute to sync up. Reminded me of the old TOMTOM devices and their 1 minute syncs. But once it got going, it was spot on.
This is not a GPS issue. It does take me a little bit to connect to GPS, but i am mainly concerned with being able to use the network to determine my location. This function uses less battery than GPS but still works for things like sherpa and Yelp.
Wow...I wsa hoping this was going to be a hot issue that other people were experiencing. This makes me think i should exchange my phone because i have some sort of defect. Please, any opinions...
had the phone a couple of weeks and never tried the GPS on it ,so this morning decided to give it ago
in premuim navigation or google navigation it just says searching for GPS all the time with m3g on or off, out side with 3g on i get a spot on fix in no via that in no time but if i try to get the gps to get a fix it just keeps saying searching for GPS
i know it normally takes longer for its first ix and then should be ok but i cant get a gps fixe and yes GPS is enabled
any help would be great thanks
Just a update with 3 g on good navigation provides a fix and directions but with 3g off Google says mobile data lost,on premuim navigation it just searches for god and can not provide directions even with 3 g on
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just a update after a bit of trying things out today
got GPS in car panel after a while and now it gets a fix very quick
premium navigation works well on 30 day trial and is very acurate for proximity to junctions etc,this does work with 3G turned off no problem (although 3 g does need to be on to activate the trial)tried it tonight in awful weather and never once lost the GPS during the journey
google navigation again gets a very quick fix but will not work unless 3G is on other wise you get the voice saying loss data connection when trying to plan the route
google maps very quick fix and only needed GPS on
locations, not sure how this is working but im sure even with just GPS on i was getting acurate info or maybe it was pre-cached info not sure
Thanks, this helpful.
So after you got your initial fix, the next time you start navigation, the fix was quick?
Did you also test that without using 3g, so creating a fix without 3g, and if so, was that quick as well?
paulus_01 said:
Thanks, this helpful.
So after you got your initial fix, the next time you start navigation, the fix was quick?
Did you also test that without using 3g, so creating a fix without 3g, and if so, was that quick as well?
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yes fix without 3g was quick
mine just will not fix the GPS....it finds 8 satellites in couple of seconds, but then just keeps "determining position"
without a determined position, my nav app can't do anything (copilot btw)...
Anyone any suggestions?
paulus_01 said:
mine just will not fix the GPS....it finds 8 satellites in couple of seconds, but then just keeps "determining position"
without a determined position, my nav app can't do anything (copilot btw)...
Anyone any suggestions?
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The same here.....
Antonio
Locations sadly does not work without data connection, even with gps turned on.
So whats the use of preloading the maps?
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Pre-loaded maps?
matthiasdeblaiser said:
Locations sadly does not work without data connection, even with gps turned on.
So whats the use of preloading the maps?
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Exactly! I pre-loaded with maps of Europe so as not to incur data charges - but Locations is useless without a data connection. How do you use the maps with GPS only? Does anyone know??
You guys are doing something wrong. I'm in Australia and Locations works fine without data connection after having downloaded the maps. It just takes some time to get fix (some 2 minutes) if it was a long time since I last got one. I can get directions fine without any data connection as well.
I'm also having problems with gps, worked fine when.I got the phone but now after I think the third ota update it just keeps searching if I only have gps switched on and not wireless networks. With wireless networks one (with or without gps, dosnt make any difference) I'm consistentlyplaced 2km away and it dosnt.improve the accuracy with time.
So I'm thinking that the updates have messed it up? Did email HTC support but nothing yet from that.
I'm always unable to get GPS fix, even if I'm in an open space. I used an app called "GPS Status", I was connected to 7/8 GPS satellite, but I wasn't able to get my position (in Maps, Locations, Latitude and Nav). How is that possible?
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I'm always unable to get GPS fix, even if I'm in an open space. I used an app called "GPS Status", I was connected to 7/8 GPS satellite, but I wasn't able to get my position (in Maps, Locations, Latitude and Nav). How is that possible?
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So you're not able to use navigation stuff? I'm still waiting to get mine, no availability here in Milan, but for me GPS is a critical feature, so if not works properly it will be a big deal!!! Let me know on that!!!
I've noticed that I am unable to get any GPS fix indoors, even when I am sitting close to a window. I presumed it was because I wasn't outside but this thread is worrying. I'll try to get a fix outside and report back. One thing's for sure - the GPS on the HD doesn't seem as good as the one on my Desire, which found GPS indoors.
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I've noticed that I am unable to get any GPS fix indoors, even when I am sitting close to a window. I presumed it was because I wasn't outside but this thread is worrying. I'll try to get a fix outside and report back. One thing's for sure - the GPS on the HD doesn't seem as good as the one on my Desire, which found GPS indoors.
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I can't get the fix even if I'm outside. I was in Rome in the past 3 days, and I never got the fix! The iPhone 4 worked fine...
UPDATE: I got a fix, pretty quickly, outside (in a city) but it is still unable to get one indoors - including on buses and trains. My Desire managed this.
Does the HD's sat nav work in a car? Are people using it for in-car navigation?
I had problems getting my GPS to get a fix, so I downloaded GPS test from market and noticed I actually had 11 satellites that i was connected to. When GPS test showed how accurate the tracking was I exited out of GPS test, and to my surprise I got a fix almost instantly in Google Maps/My Tracks and even Locations.
I then took a drive, first with my DHD laying in the passenger seat on the first trip, and then with the DHD in my inner pocket of my jacket. Using my tracks I recorded the route and it had tracked me perfectly on both trips. Only time it stopped tracking was when I went in to a mall, but it picked up again when I left.
I live in sweden and the car is not a convertible, and 3G was off.
If the gps test thing actually helped I do not know, so feel free to test and report.
edit: I tried it again and the only thing about gps test "helping" is to see when the DHDs gps actually get a fix. It seems to be slow as crap on fixating but once you get the fix it tracks you very good. Right now I'm indoors(wooden house out in the countryside) and I had to wait about 2-3 minutes with 8-12 satellites in use and standing near a window before it got my position. After that I went back to where I tried before and it is still tracking me with 15-30meters accuracy and currently 7-8 satellites in use.
Those with GPS issues can try this, remove the battery for 10-15 mins then try GPS app again, ports can get messed up if we try out multiple GPS apps, removing the battery for a length of time should clear cache and or memory. Just try it and report back.
I tried alreay couple times, no luck, only fix is reset phone, but not happy, working fine couple days, and issue again, reset again, really not happy, this only one thing i am not happy on my dhd. ANY ADVICE or HELP ?? thanks..
Hello,
I have some problems too with my GPS. Some times the fix can be very quick but it’s not systematic.
What I noticed:
- When I activate the GPS option all the time, the fix is almost always fast. Sometimes it’s still very long: so in GPS status I reset the cache and the fix is after very quick.
- When I activate the GPS only when I need (turn on and turn off before and after using Navigation), I never get a fix. Resetting the cache in GPS Status or restarting Android does not solve the problem. So I launch several times GPS Status to reset cache and several times Navigation and after a while I can get a fix…. I think there is a real problem with the management of the GPS, because in GPS status I can see 11 satellites and Android is still searching!!!
Is there anyone who noticed that turning on and off GPS can seriously degrade the performances to get a fix?
I done few very similar things, clear cache, reset phone, but still I had feeling something was wrong, then I find I had faulty gps receiver, hardware issue, replaced for new one, thanks to very good store manager, and now I have black DHD, before was brown, and already new one is have all latest update installed, GPS lock in couple seconds anytime on open air, inside house It will lock in around 1 - 2 minutes longest, no more resets, no more clearing cache, working on 100 %..., this is just what I find myself, and I glad I had replaced mine old for brand new - and not just repaired..
Damned, I hope this is not an hardware issue ! Maybe you have some updates installed on your new phone which solve the problem ?
Is there anyone who noticed the same issues or I am the only one ?
Okay so I know there are many GPS threads, I went through all of them but didn't find a simliar issue.
When driving around Bartlett, IL (a 4G area, not that it makes a difference but just indicating that the suburb isn't small)... I could not get the GPS lock for the life of me. It thought I was mile away, seemed like it was only picking up the cell tower.. and no turning 4G on or off didn't make a difference.
now here is the kicker,
I drove back to my home town, Rockford, IL (only 3G).... and baam...I got a lock right away and the GPS knew exactly where I was on the road.....
I really dont think it's a 4g/3g issue, as GPS should be independent of them (at least form what I know)....
the question is...if it was google maps, why would it lock in one area and not the other....and same with the phone...you'd think if the phone is jacked/ it wouldnt work in either case...
any thoughts?
Gps is weird in general on the Epic, I have to toggle GPS on, Toggle Off, Toggle on and then it works..
it's expected. welcome the the GPS woes club.
jackal424 said:
Okay so I know there are many GPS threads, I went through all of them but didn't find a simliar issue.
When driving around Bartlett, IL (a 4G area, not that it makes a difference but just indicating that the suburb isn't small)... I could not get the GPS lock for the life of me. It thought I was mile away, seemed like it was only picking up the cell tower.. and no turning 4G on or off didn't make a difference.
now here is the kicker,
I drove back to my home town, Rockford, IL (only 3G).... and baam...I got a lock right away and the GPS knew exactly where I was on the road.....
I really dont think it's a 4g/3g issue, as GPS should be independent of them (at least form what I know)....
the question is...if it was google maps, why would it lock in one area and not the other....and same with the phone...you'd think if the phone is jacked/ it wouldnt work in either case...
any thoughts?
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It's a 4G issue.
When you have 4G or WiFi on the GPS will not lock. Once turned off, it takes SEVERAL minutes for it to snap back to reality and be able to update it's cache to find the sats.
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It's a 4G issue.
When you have 4G or WiFi on the GPS will not lock. Once turned off, it takes SEVERAL minutes for it to snap back to reality and be able to update it's cache to find the sats.
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Like I said it occured without even using 4G. All I know is I opened google maps in one area and it works and in another area it didn't.
Difference was only turning gps on/off.
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This is the same GPS issue that is affecting the rest of us. Outdated ephemeris cache bug.
Since my phone arrived that i can't get a GPS signal lock.
GPS Status can indeed see the sattelites but phone can't lock a signal...
After a lot of cache and factory wipes still no luck.
Anyone else having this problem?
How fast can you get a GPS signal lock?
I would like to see some other opinions before i send it back to warranty because it might be something fixable..
P.S: I've searched all around the forum and the web and i couldn't find a solution for this.
Cold boot lock 180 - 250 seconds .
jje
I had similar strange issues the first 2 days.
Then when I finally had a lock, I started using gps more and it works fine now.
It's almost like the gps module had to be warmed up
I read somewhere someone had a similar issue in the beginning and then it worked fine.
I'm also keeping an eye on my gps functionality..
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Gawis said:
I had similar strange issues the first 2 days.
Then when I finally had a lock, I started using gps more and it works fine now.
It's almost like the gps module had to be warmed up
I read somewhere someone had a similar issue in the beginning and then it worked fine.
I'm also keeping an eye on my gps functionality..
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I think i'll keep trying until i get a first lock before i send it back to warranty..
Just flashed back to KE2 to see if it's really not fw related.
I'll post the results after some tests
Do you guys have location service turned on? Not the one based on wifi but cell service?
try the following and tell us if it helped:
1) turn off the wifi- and cell based gps support (this doesn't help you much and sends your pos data to big G)
2) download "GPS Status & Toolbox" app from the market
3) download the actual satellite vectors with this tool (this you will have to do regularly, around once a week)
4) go out, start your nav app, do NOT move (easier for the GPS to get a fix)
5) come back in and tell us if that helped.
Cheers
Zap
Zaphod_b_1 said:
try the following and tell us if it helped:
1) turn off the wifi- and cell based gps support (this doesn't help you much and sends your pos data to big G)
2) download "GPS Status & Toolbox" app from the market
3) download the actual satellite vectors with this tool (this you will have to do regularly, around once a week)
4) go out, start your nav app, do NOT move (easier for the GPS to get a fix)
5) come back in and tell us if that helped.
Cheers
Zap
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Will do.
I'll report back as soon as i test it
Thanks
Also make sure you have 3G data (not wifi) turned on.
I noticed that when 3G data is not on lock takes ages.
clubtech said:
Also make sure you have 3G data (not wifi) turned on.
I noticed that when 3G data is not on lock takes ages.
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Everything works fine now.. I didn't know that was necessary to have 3G enabled.. At least the first lock.. After that, with 3G ON i was able to get locks within <15 seconds. Also, after this, with 3G OFF, and after rebooting phone, i got a lock within <15 seconds..
I guess my GPS is not broken after all
Thanks everyone who helped
I don't have 3G and neither do I enable any network. Here is a screenshot i took todays while sitting at a caffee. Maybe the fix takes a minute or two, but then it's very stable, does not loose the connection easy.
ive always locked in about 10 secs from day one every firmware ive tried, always held a solid lock too,best gps ive used yet phone or otherwise.
I'm now having fast locks too without 3G.. Even inside my house, on a 4 floors building (i'm on first) with all windows closed, i'm getting locks within 30 seconds.. Not bad. With 3G ON, it gets a lock within 20 seconds max.
Haven't tried outside yet though.. Will do tomorrow with 3G ON & OFF so i can compare both.
h20pt said:
I'm now having fast locks too without 3G.. Even inside my house, on a 4 floors building (i'm on first) with all windows closed, i'm getting locks within 30 seconds.. Not bad. With 3G ON, it gets a lock within 20 seconds max.
Haven't tried outside yet though.. Will do tomorrow with 3G ON & OFF so i can compare both.
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it may have been the timing but i couldn't get a lock as soon as i got out of the subway station on saturday within 20~30 sec ish. So i closed google maps and enabled location service and bam 5sec and lock
I tried it with wifi earlier this evening and it jumped around a bit (never had this issue before)
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it may have been the timing but i couldn't get a lock as soon as i got out of the subway station on saturday within 20~30 sec ish. So i closed google maps and enabled location service and bam 5sec and lock
I tried it with wifi earlier this evening and it jumped around a bit (never had this issue before)
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Haven't tried google maps outside yet, but inside i can say it takes forever to get a lock.. even with 3G ON. However, when it does get a lock, accuracy is really bad (>60m).
On GPS status, GPS accuracy is also kinda bad.. I can't get down of 20 m of error (20 m min.. usually it's around 40/60). However, lock times are faster than on goole maps.
Is there a way of improving accuracy?
Being inside and trying to get a better accuracy is not really possible. With 3G on the GPS will use Cell tower triangulation to get A-GPS which is not very accurate indoor.
Use GPS outdoors!
CEPi said:
Being inside and trying to get a better accuracy is not really possible. With 3G on the GPS will use Cell tower triangulation to get A-GPS which is not very accurate indoor.
Use GPS outdoors!
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I will.. Tomorrow
Enough of testing for today.. Time to go to bed.
Night all