Nandroid backup not possible. - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm trying to backup in recovery mode but i can't because the backup size is 4.5gb and i only have 1.5gb storage left on my 8gb nexus 4.
How can i backup my files?? can i make it back up to my computer or something? it's because i downloaded so many songs recently/

Transfer old backups to the phone, or make some space on the phone first and then transfer it to the PC

I don't have any backups on my phone at the moment. How can I clear like 4 GB when I need them all?

You'd have to take the data off your phone first, not ideal but I can't think of another way

Is titanium backup just as good and comprehensive as nandroid backup? I think titanium can backup to computer

Don't know, never used it

jinny1 said:
Is titanium backup just as good and comprehensive as nandroid backup? I think titanium can backup to computer
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Titanium backs up APPS and APP DATA. not the system itself. By doing a nandroid, you're basically backing up the WHOLE android OS. 10/10 times it'll work EXACTLY the way when you restore it back. Where as Titanium only backs up the app and their data. Even then, it's not a 10/10 compatability when you restore it. You might run into some app issues.

Take data off your phone which will allow you to do a backup. After the backup is complete, move backup to your computer and all your data back onto the phone.

Delete your downloaded songs or move them to a PC. After u done that u might have enough space to make a nandroid
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Okay for some reason i can't find the downloaded songs anywhere on the drive when i connect my phone to my pc.

jinny1 said:
Okay for some reason i can't find the downloaded songs anywhere on the drive when i connect my phone to my pc.
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clear data for the play music app, if thats what you use(in manage apps).

simms22 said:
clear data for the play music app, if thats what you use(in manage apps).
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but then i have to download like 3gb worth of music again -.- took me ages

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Easiest/quickest way to backup saved game data and copy to new phone?

Hi guys and girls, I just sold my htc desire hd and will be buying the dell streak.
I was wondering where the saved game data is located (phone memory or memory card) and how to recopy it to the new phone otherwise I lose many months of saved games...
Thanks.
I dont really know where it is stored but if you are rooted you can use Titanium Backup to backup that application and all its data. Then you can restore on the new phone. If you are not rooted I think but I'm not sure that you can use MyBackup.
raze599 said:
I dont really know where it is stored but if you are rooted you can use Titanium Backup to backup that application and all its data. Then you can restore on the new phone. If you are not rooted I think but I'm not sure that you can use MyBackup.
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Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately my phone is not rooted and I don't plan on rooting it as I'm selling it. I cannot afford for anything to go wrong.
Anyway of backing up the game data without needing to root?
Thanks
Yes I think MyBackup works without root
raze599 said:
Yes I think MyBackup works without root
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I think that it only copies the .apk files and not the data if you doesn't have root.
And I think that all your game savings and application data is at the /data/data folder in your internal storage. To access it you'll need to have root.
Please correct me if I'm wrong
johan12330 said:
I think that it only copies the .apk files and not the data if you doesn't have root.
And I think that all your game savings and application data is at the /data/data folder in your internal storage. To access it you'll need to have root.
Please correct me if I'm wrong
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Ok, so the BEST thing to do would be to root the phone and then back everything up with titanium backup?

How to backup with nandroid if there is not enough space?

Hello,
I wonder if anyone know... What happens when let's say i have 9gb of data on my s2 and i want to backup it with nandroid? It should be possible to do this to sd card, but what if some apps are on phone and some on sd card? How backup then?
If i upgrade to a newer custom built rom, i them try to backup, wouldn't it restore the older backed up firmware? Or just apps and settings, but not rom itself?
Thank you,
Tomas
no one? did no one fill their phone and tried to backup? maybe there is a solution to backup to a computer?
execine said:
Hello,
I wonder if anyone know... What happens when let's say i have 9gb of data on my s2 and i want to backup it with nandroid? It should be possible to do this to sd card, but what if some apps are on phone and some on sd card? How backup then?
If i upgrade to a newer custom built rom, i them try to backup, wouldn't it restore the older backed up firmware? Or just apps and settings, but not rom itself?
Thank you,
Tomas
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Nandroid backups are an image of
/system
/data
/dbdata
(on CF-Root, not sure about original CWM) it also includes .android_secure, which is SD-stored apps.
I don't understand what you are asking.
If there is not enough space you obviously have to delete something.
BTW: data-partition is around 2,1GB and system-partition 500MB, so there is no way a single backup can use 9GB
Maybe I am not being very clear, sorry about that
Coming from an Iphone, i am looking for a total phone backup solution. Itunes backs up literally everything - your apps, music, photos etc. It's filled probably with 20gb of different data.
Question is if I have my phone filled with games, different apps which make let's say 10 gb (not that much counting in that one game may be up to 1 gb), so how do i backup this? To SD card?
What if I have 20gb of data , 10 of which are on phone, 10 on sd card, in this case i wouldn't be able to backup everything?
One more technical question about rom upgrades. Currently i installed Villain Rom and have a backup made with nandroid. When i upgrade to a newer Villain Rom 1.5 or whatever comes out and I do the restore, i suppose it will restore 1.4 rom version with it's all apps and settings?
In this case, how do i backup only accounts, contacts, sms , apps, photogallery but not rom itself?
Sorry for all those questions, but i'm reading the forum all over, and there's still hundreds of questions i'm looking to find answers, so that i could comfortably migrate from iphone to galaxy..
execine said:
Maybe I am not being very clear, sorry about that
Coming from an Iphone, i am looking for a total phone backup solution. Itunes backs up literally everything - your apps, music, photos etc. It's filled probably with 20gb of different data.
Question is if I have my phone filled with games, different apps which make let's say 10 gb (not that much counting in that one game may be up to 1 gb), so how do i backup this? To SD card?
What if I have 20gb of data , 10 of which are on phone, 10 on sd card, in this case i wouldn't be able to backup everything?
One more technical question about rom upgrades. Currently i installed Villain Rom and have a backup made with nandroid. When i upgrade to a newer Villain Rom 1.5 or whatever comes out and I do the restore, i suppose it will restore 1.4 rom version with it's all apps and settings?
In this case, how do i backup only accounts, contacts, sms , apps, photogallery but not rom itself?
Sorry for all those questions, but i'm reading the forum all over, and there's still hundreds of questions i'm looking to find answers, so that i could comfortably migrate from iphone to galaxy..
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Regarding restoring only apps/accounts/etc but not the rom iteself, within cwm, in backup and restore, chhoose advanced restore and the restore data.
Im not certain whether it restores gallery or sms.i sync my photos via dropbox, and backup my texts seperately.
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So there is no unified backup solution for android? You would have to back up everything separately ?
execine said:
So there is no unified backup solution for android? You would have to back up everything separately ?
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It's fairly simple:
Nandroid for your ROM and user data that is on the PHONE and /data partition
For the /sdcard and /sdcard/external_sd, that's up to you to sort out... Perhaps back up the contents by connecting to your PC? Then copy the contents of the SD? That way you have your nandroid backup stored on the computer just in case
so then in case something goes wrong, i restore with nandroid and manually copy contents from PC and ALL of my phone's data (software, contacts, gallery etc) will be there?
execine said:
Coming from an Iphone, i am looking for a total phone backup solution. Itunes backs up literally everything - your apps, music, photos etc. It's filled probably with 20gb of different data.
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Well, now you have a phone that doesn´t hide everything from the user it shouldn´t be that hard to make a backup.
There are basically 4 interesting partitions on the phone:
system (about 500MB) - This holds more or less the whole Firmware. While it is technically just a partition on the flash-memory, it is used like a ROM in normal usage, so the only situation where something will be written on this partition is a firmware-upgrade.
data (about 2GB)- This partition holds all user-installed apps and their settings.
sdcard (about 12GB) - This is not really a sdcard. Instead it is a part of the internal memory, you can use it for example for media, documents, images etc., whatever you like. This partition can be accessed on your computer as a regular USB-storage, and you can do a backup of it the way you like, either simply copying everything, or using a backup-solution of your choice.
external_sd (optional) - This is the micro-sd-card you can put in your phone. Obviously you can use it for anything you like. This partition is also accessible as a USB-storage or you can use a simple USB card-reader to access it on your computer.
Usually all your applications and settings will be stored in the /data/-partition.
If you choose the Move-to-SD option in the application-manager, some parts of the application will be moved to the (internal) /sdcard/-partition, but all the user-data/settings still remain on the /data/-partition.
So the maximum space you need to backup all your settings and apps is under 3GB.
Now to the possibilities of a backup, and the importance of the different things.
A nandroid-backup will basically make an image of the /system/ and /data/ partitions (also a bit more, but that´s not really important).
Usually it will use the /sdcard/-partition, which actually is still in your phone.
If you restore a Nandroid-Backup your System will be in the exact state before the backup, including all applications with their settings (which also means contacts, e-mails, sms etc).
Obviously everything that has changed after the backup will be lost.
A restore well also restore the complete firmware from the backup.
A backup from Nandroid can only be restored on the same phone, with the same partitions.
The second possibility to make backups would be TitaniumBackup.
This program will store all your installed applications and their data.
Default it will store it on the internal /sdcard/, but it is probably more useful to change the path to the external_sd.
Everything in Android is an application, so this will also save all your settings.
During a restore TitaniumBackup simply reinstalls your applications and then restores their settings.
TitaniumBackup can restore your applications with any Firmware, and in theory even on other phones (it may not work with special System-apps but it surely works with most "user-apps")
So Clockworkmod is great if you want to play around with different firmwares, especially Custom ROMs.
You can install different ROMs, make a backup and very easy and fast switch between them.
For a "regular" backup TitaniumBackup is maybe the better choice, it can backup all your settings and applications and for example if a Firmware-update goes wrong simply restore anything.
There is no real need to backup the /system/-partition anyway, you can simply download the Firmware and flash it, there is no user-data on this partition.
sdcard and external_sd usually only contains media, which you probably have somewhere on your PC anyway, so there is no real need for a backup, maybe for the pictures and videos you make with your phone, but again you should copy this on your PC regularly anyway. And if you want you can easily copy everything on it as well.
What if I have 20gb of data , 10 of which are on phone, 10 on sd card, in this case i wouldn't be able to backup everything?
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Question is if I have my phone filled with games, different apps which make let's say 10 gb (not that much counting in that one game may be up to 1 gb), so how do i backup this? To SD card?[/quote]
Apps can´t be several GB in size on Android. Normally you have only around 2GB for Apps, if you use the App2SD-feature it can be expanded a bit.
If applications need a lot of data, for example like navigation-programs or games, they will download this on the first start and store this on the /sdcard/-partition.
As I said, you can access this easily like a removable drive and copy everything you like.
It isn´t also that important to make a backup of this, as it can be downloaded again anytime, and if something goes wrong it usually will mess up your system and don´t influence the data-partition anyway (well as long as you don´t repartition the whole memory)
Thank you, that does explain a lot!
I connected my S2, but i can't see to find any installed apps browsing through USB, or i shouldn't be seeing that?
Tomas
execine said:
Thank you, that does explain a lot!
I connected my S2, but i can't see to find any installed apps browsing through USB, or i shouldn't be seeing that?
Tomas
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No, they are stored in /data
You back that up using nandroid, then you restore it via nandroid and they will be there. What you see on your PC via USB is the "internal SD".
Understood, thank you. Things getting more clear after a week of reading and using the phone ))
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execine said:
I connected my S2, but i can't see to find any installed apps browsing through USB, or i shouldn't be seeing that?
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No, you see the (internal) /sdcard/ partition and (if present) the /external_sd/ (the MicroSD-card you have in your phone)
To simply backup your applications, the easiest way is TitaniumBackup.
This will store the .apk and settings for each up in a folder of your choice (on /sdcard/ or /external_sd/, as you usually have no direct access to the other partitions)
You can copy this folder on your PC, or even in the TitaniumBackup-folder of another phone and use it there.
There are several advantages using TitaniumBackup to save your Apps over CWM-recovery. You can use it with the enabled phone for example, and also just restore individual Apps, if you like.

[Q] Nandroid backup

Does Nandroid back upp your apps and stuff and personal pictures and what not?
It backs up EVERYTHING.
FloatingFatMan said:
It backs up EVERYTHING.
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I hope you are right, otherwise im coming after you
It does NOT backup /data/media. Which is everything you see mapped to /sdcard.
Kind of crazy IMO. I once did a full factory reset and lost all my /data/media because I thought I had a backup.
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ti backup
Titanium backup is what I would sugest
A nandroid backup will only backup the things you check off in the backup screen. By default nandroid will backup all the necessary files to boot back into a rom. The best way to backup applications is to use titanium backup, which will backup not only the application, but also the data from yhe application.
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I've been searching here and other sites using Google and I'm still not sure about /data/media. Could it be considered non-critical?
I just got my tablet yesterday, haven't had time to customize much. If I had to revert to a nandroid backup without /data/media, would it just be a matter of re-entering the system settings I want and pulling my apps back down from Market?
Jim
Moot point now. I went ahead and installed Epiphany. Don't plan on going back.
Jim

internal storage recovery tool needed

hey guys,
i have a very serious problem and im already searching the internet for a solution since hours.
i had to make a factory reset and lost all my fpse savedata.i was playing many hours of FF8(70+) and these savegames are really important for me.
i made a nandroid backup which is broken and restored the fpse app with titanium backup with no luck.
does anyone know a file recovery program which works with the s4s mtp protocol?
most recovery programs on windows don´t recognize the s4s storage
would be very thankful for any help
thanks
atilla88 said:
hey guys,
i have a very serious problem and im already searching the internet for a solution since hours.
i had to make a factory reset and lost all my fpse savedata.i was playing many hours of FF8(70+) and these savegames are really important for me.
i made a nandroid backup which is broken and restored the fpse app with titanium backup with no luck.
does anyone know a file recovery program which works with the s4s mtp protocol?
most recovery programs on windows don´t recognize the s4s storage
would be very thankful for any help
thanks
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you could try usb mass storage enabler
as i have the apk to hand here it is
linuxnubee said:
you could try usb mass storage enabler
as i have the apk to hand here it is
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This doesnt seem to to something,it connects my s4 still over mtp to my xp pc but thanks for your try
atilla88 said:
This doesnt seem to to something,it connects my s4 still over mtp to my xp pc but thanks for your try
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try this k ahve not tried it as am not near pc atmo
go to settings/storage
press menu button
press usb connections
change from mtp to ptp
then try connecting to pc
and also retry usb mass storage enabler
it might work might not but worth a shot for a stab in the dark lol
Or try hexamob recovery lite app from Play Store.
Requires root.
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What do you mean by broken nandroid? If possible, try to view the nandroid backup and manually extract the savedata. This can be done by using Nandroid manager.
If you want to get back your data forensically, it would be very troublesome. I know as I'm currently studying digital forensic for my course. You might also not be able to recover the files if the data had been overwritten.
Tried hexamob bit it doesn't work with the internal storage,my problem with my nandroid backup is that i can't restore it using CWM.
Nandroid manager sounds good but i don't think that my savefiles are included cause they are stored on sdcard/.fpse im not sure but i guess the nandroid backup doesn't include the internal sdcard?
atilla88 said:
Tried hexamob bit it doesn't work with the internal storage,my problem with my nandroid backup is that i can't restore it using CWM.
Nandroid manager sounds good but i don't think that my savefiles are included cause they are stored on sdcard/.fpse im not sure but i guess the nandroid backup doesn't include the internal sdcard?
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Depending on what recovery you used and how you did your nandroid backup.
If you did a custom/advanced backup and selected specific partition to backup, there's a high chances that you might not have backed up internal sdcard partition.
If you chose the 'backup to external sdcard' option, there's probably a high chance that internal sdcard is backup too.
You should really try out the Nandroid Manager to see if your backup has internal sdcard partition.
atilla88 said:
Tried hexamob bit it doesn't work with the internal storage,my problem with my nandroid backup is that i can't restore it using CWM.
Nandroid manager sounds good but i don't think that my savefiles are included cause they are stored on sdcard/.fpse im not sure but i guess the nandroid backup doesn't include the internal sdcard?
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Did you figure it out? I have same problem accept I want to undelete pictures from internal memory..
+1 Nandroid Manager app
I was surprised with the Nandroid manager app - while it didnt work for me at first, i did get an update through and then it was fine. Currently, however, it wont restore my nandroid, but it might be worth giving it a try as previously mentioned

[Q] Full phone backup in twrp...

Hello aigan, I have taken a backup of my phone, but I didn't have enough space to take a backup of my data which was on whopping 3,2 gb (data only!) The total backupsize with data was on 6(!) gb! And I didn't have enough space to take a backup of that...So, what do I lose if I backup a backup with just system, boot, and recovery, and not data? Do I loose all my pictures, apps etc?
And, how to I delete backups from twrp?
Might be some noob questions,but I want to ensure what I am doing
Norside said:
Hello aigan, I have taken a backup of my phone, but I didn't have enough space to take a backup of my data which was on whopping 3,2 gb (data only!) The total backupsize with data was on 6(!) gb! And I didn't have enough space to take a backup of that...So, what do I lose if I backup a backup with just system, boot, and recovery, and not data? Do I loose all my pictures, apps etc?
And, how to I delete backups from twrp?
Might be some noob questions,but I want to ensure what I am doing
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If you do not backup your data then yes you will lose apps, pictures, ringtones, contacts etc. I back my contacts and apps up via my gmail acct. as far as pictures, ringtones and things like that I would look into slimming down by dropping the ones you don't use onto your computer or a cloud storage system if you want constant access to them but do not want them taking up the space on your phone.
in order to delete backups from TWRP you can use either a root file browser such as Root Browser to locate the backup (sdcard0/twrp/backups/[name of backup folder]) or plug the phone into your computer and go into you internal storage then locate the TWRP folder and delete that way. Oh one more way... Under the advanced tab in TWRP you can select file manager and locate the folder and delete that way as well.
I'm wondering if you use google play music, and have pinned a lot of music to your phone? If so ..... That is a huge chunk of your "data" No need to back that up, it's already in the cloud.
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Norside said:
Hello aigan, I have taken a backup of my phone, but I didn't have enough space to take a backup of my data which was on whopping 3,2 gb (data only!) The total backupsize with data was on 6(!) gb! And I didn't have enough space to take a backup of that...So, what do I lose if I backup a backup with just system, boot, and recovery, and not data? Do I loose all my pictures, apps etc?
And, how to I delete backups from twrp?
Might be some noob questions,but I want to ensure what I am doing
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findinghomer said:
I'm wondering if you use google play music, and have pinned a lot of music to your phone? If so ..... That is a huge chunk of your "data" No need to back that up, it's already in the cloud.
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I would question that too. My backups are around 2 gigs and i have like 220+ Apps installed. So you should maybe backup you media (photos,music,...) differently.

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