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As announced by Eric Schmidt. How soon after the Prime is released will the Nexus S get it? How soon after the Nexus S came out did the nexus 1 get GB?

Samsung GT-I9250 'confirmed' as Google Nexus Prime
www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-co...i9250-confirmed-as-google-nexus-prime-1017480
From the Article
Samsung's upcoming GT-I9250 smartphone has been pretty much confirmed as the Google Nexus Prime based on the handset's user agent profile (UAP) hosted on a Samsung-owned website.
Sitting on the wap.samsungmobile.com domain, the UAP is titled nexusprime.xml and makes reference to the model number GT-I9250 – we already guessed that this would be the Nexus Prime, leaving the GT- I9220 as be the Samsung-branded version of the phone.
The other sliver of information gleaned from the file is that the handset will have a 480x800 WVGA resolution display – which fits with the rumoured Super AMOLED screen we've been hearing so much about.
The prime of life
Sadly there's no indication of whether or not the remaining speculated specs are accurate – we still have our fingers crossed for a 1.5GHz dual core processor.
One thing that seems certain is that if this launches as the Google Nexus Prime, the handset will be the Ice Cream Sandwich launch device.
With everyone and his dog anticipating an autumn release for the next Google OS, the Nexus Prime's release date can't be far off now.

So they remove hardware buttons and keep res the same? Sounds like another fake to me.
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rentaric said:
So they remove hardware buttons and keep res the same? Sounds like another fake to me.
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I think I read/listened somewhere that the buttons are going away(there capacitive anywhos so its like using the screen anyways) The screen with that low resolution eh its still a small screen so

rentaric said:
So they remove hardware buttons and keep res the same? Sounds like another fake to me.
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If ICS is a GB/HC mashup that is seamless between phones and tablets it would only make sense to take away the capacative buttons on a phone.
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I was kind of hoping the rumors about the Prime having a Super Amoled HD screen were true :/

I wont be getting a Prime, but Ill be interested to see the direction things are going with regards to screen size. Personally I find the 4" screen on the NS just about perfect. Anything wider than that is much less pocket friendly.

supposedly:
4.5" SAMOLED+ HD display (as in SAMOLED+ v2.0)
Dual Core snapdragon 1.5 Ghz CPU
16GB or 32GB internal storage depending on model
NO microsSD support just like Nexus S
same 540 gpu
same 5 MPIX camera
same rounded corners
same NFC
same GPS
same WiFi
same BT
1650 mAh battery
supposedly 1GB RAM
supposedly going to be released by Verizon first (i guess Tmobile finally lost the bit, all past Nexus devices was always released 1st by Tmobile)
Nexus 3 (prime) is going to be produced by SAMSUNG
and yes the default stock OS will be IceCream
all these info was pulled from many different sites and speculations, so take it with a grain of salt

Rotellian said:
I wont be getting a Prime, but Ill be interested to see the direction things are going with regards to screen size. Personally I find the 4" screen on the NS just about perfect. Anything wider than that is much less pocket friendly.
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If you think about it, remove the capacative buttons on the NS and fill that space with screen and it wouldn't make MUCH of a difference lol
Thats my opinion tho...I really hope it has that HD screen...and a better camera, etc...if it has microSD card slot then im sold lol

The next Google dev device will NOT be on verizon first. They may get a 'droid prime' but it wont be a nexus

asdfghjkl said:
I was kind of hoping the rumors about the Prime having a Super Amoled HD screen were true :/
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Given the time frame Samsung has given for rollout of the new screens and the screen sizes they'll be initially available for, this seems possible, but I'm not sure it ascends to the level of likely. Still, I'm with you in hoping.

i'll probably get the Samsung Nexus 3 if they really releases it with 32GB for Tmobile
a Nexus is always by far a much safer choice, when you want to have the latest and newest in the development arena
however the short of microSD and old 5mpix camera is really a big no no for me
Samsung Galaxy 2 for Tmobile (aka Hercules) has the perfect spec that i seek, but development support is a wild bet, at least it'll have CM7

More "SD" space is good, though if they do that I hope they also increase the "internal" partition. For my purposes, though, a storage expansion isn't a big deal. For me, the biggest things hardware wise are camera (a better camera that takes better pictures, not necessarily an 8+ MP one), RAM (I'll be very disappointed to see less than 1GB, and I wouldn't even say no to twice that), and battery life (if you can make it last twice as long by making the phone a few millimeters thicker, for god's sake, just make the phone thicker). T-Mobile compatibility is also important for me, but just in general I think having it available on more carriers faster (preferably simultaneously) is better.
All the other goodies are fine and dandy, and would certainly affect my decision whether to buy it, but those are the biggest things for me.

Waiting for those official specs...
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most importantly is battery life!!

king23adrianc said:
most importantly is battery life!!
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That's the only thing guaranteed, crappy batt life

rentaric said:
That's the only thing guaranteed, crappy batt life
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Yup. Qft
If it's 4.65", chances are good that I'm passing. Sad face.
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Please have a notification LED.
No buttons means we can't create a makeshift notification system a la BLN (which was absolutely genius by the way).
Even the SGS II cannot use BLN to it's fullest capacity as their devices require a wakelock to keep the keys on which destroys battery. BLN was just fortunate enough in all aspects (stability, reliability, battery) to be something that the Galaxy S line and the Nexus S could fully enjoy.
I probably wouldn't be using my Nexus S right now without BLN. I truly think an external indicator is THAT important. So please please please give us one.

I'm the opposite. I've had bln on all my device until the nexus s. Phones never leave my hand so I never used it. I would always disable it. Different strokes.
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I don't personally feel like I need a notification light, but it's one of those things that seems like it ought to be simple and cheap enough to include for those who do. I've been somewhat intrigued by how ongoing standby notifications in general- visual and aural- have been vanishing over the past couple years. I suppose it's because with smartphones these days they expect you'll be using the thing constantly anyway. >.>

5 important reasons SSGS2 is better than Nexus 4

Why a 2 year old device (less because of the X) is far better than a Nexus 4
1. USB "OTG" allows you to use external disks, keyboards and other things. NExus 4 doesn't not have this.
2. the SSGS2 x has a removable battery, as the phone ages you don't have to put up with bad batteries, you can charge your batteries on a charger when in places with power issues like say Cambodia traveling, you can carry a few batteries when you get on a boat or a 5 day hiking trip
so you can hope to depend on your device GPS to save your life.
3. You can use SD cards for storage. Maybe your a DJ an like to carry your music collection on a few SD Cards, this is handy because with an
adaptor you can use these SD card direct to a laptop to transfer files fast or to use them without your hand held. Yes removable storage works great as the SD can work on different machines for different reasons, you can transfer files very fast with removable storage.
4. The SSGS2 x has a plastic backing that makes it at least 50% less likely to break the expensive glass when your drop your phone.
5. The SSGS2X is very easy to repair components, say your camera breaks, no problem, buy a part and fix it yourself, everything is held together like a regular mainboard.
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THis is why i am getting rid of this NExus 4 i got sucked into and looking rationally at a phone as a tool and noticing that it isn't as good as older phones.

blendobass said:
Why a 2 year old device (less because of the X) is far better than a Nexus 4
1. USB "OTG" allows you to use external disks, keyboards and other things. NExus 4 doesn't not have this.
2. the SSGS2 x has a removable battery, as the phone ages you don't have to put up with bad batteries, you can charge your batteries on a charger when in places with power issues like say Cambodia traveling, you can carry a few batteries when you get on a boat or a 5 day hiking trip
so you can hope to depend on your device GPS to save your life.
3. You can use SD cards for storage. Maybe your a DJ an like to carry your music collection on a few SD Cards, this is handy because with an
adaptor you can use these SD card direct to a laptop to transfer files fast or to use them without your hand held. Yes removable storage works great as the SD can work on different machines for different reasons, you can transfer files very fast with removable storage.
4. The SSGS2 x has a plastic backing that makes it at least 50% less likely to break the expensive glass when your drop your phone.
5. The SSGS2X is very easy to repair components, say your camera breaks, no problem, buy a part and fix it yourself, everything is held together like a regular mainboard.
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THis is why i am getting rid of this NExus 4 i got sucked into and looking rationally at a phone as a tool and noticing that it isn't as good as older phones.
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So, from all your talk I guess you drive something very old because you are bothered that there are removed features on new cars and you can't repair them so easily?
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Alright. Enjoy your GS2...

kaspar737 said:
So, from all your talk I guess you drive something very old because you are bothered that there are removed features on new cars and you can't repair them so easily?
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Funny, why yes I do drive a 15 year old imported from japan Delica diesel. It is far better than most new 4x4 it has better MPG and it cost me less to buy. You really couldn't compare them to say a ford 4x4 and if you wanted a Diesel. It has every feature that any new car has, and far more,
it is a better car and every Delica owner in Canada knows this.
Good comparison !
But USB OTG is like buying a new car that said it has 4x4 but it is DOESN"T ! LOL
A Nexus 4 is a cheaply made, fragile phone that can't do anything an older Samsung can't do ! But there is plenty of things a samsung can do this can't.
Remember how awesome it was when you figured out you could now plug a full size keyboard, a thumb drive or another phone into a Samsung ? Nexus 4 can't do this !
Nexus may be newer but it isn't better, same reason I drive a Delica, same Reason why a 100 year old Granite house is worth more than a stick framed plastic sided and sheet rocked house, same reason a old used shovel is with 2x a new flimsy one, same reason when you go to buy a vacum you would pay more for a 20 year old used good one than a cheap plastic bells and whistles junk that works for a year and then dies.
Wake up N-Sheep

sn0warmy said:
Alright. Enjoy your GS2...
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Enjoy your cracked back, dead battery at noon, No plugging in externals, low storage phone.
Your can use mine if you need to do something advanced, or your battery is dead.
I am just trying to save some people getting sucked into this junk.

blendobass said:
I am just trying to save some people getting sucked into this junk.
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No. You're just trolling.
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El Daddy said:
No. You're just trolling.
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Nope, I am not, I came up with 5 very good reason a cheaper to buy new Samsung S2x is better than a Nexus 4 FOR ME.
I need to plug in a full keyboard, I need removable storage for my lifestyle as a DJ, I need extra battery or I can't have a phone working many times, I need a phone that can withstand some abuse in the outdoors,
... these are far more important than 1 gig extra storage and a better screen.
Blaming me for trolling is just your way of not having a valid argument to my 5 good reasons that the Nexus 4 is a a downgrade.

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Funny, why yes I do drive a 15 year old imported from japan Delica diesel. It is far better than most new 4x4 it has better MPG and it cost me less to buy. You really couldn't compare them to say a ford 4x4 and if you wanted a Diesel. It has every feature that any new car has, and far more,
it is a better car and every Delica owner in Canada knows this.
Good comparison !
But USB OTG is like buying a new car that said it has 4x4 but it is DOESN"T ! LOL
A Nexus 4 is a cheaply made, fragile phone that can't do anything an older Samsung can't do ! But there is plenty of things a samsung can do this can't.
Remember how awesome it was when you figured out you could now plug a full size keyboard, a thumb drive or another phone into a Samsung ? Nexus 4 can't do this !
Nexus may be newer but it isn't better, same reason I drive a Delica, same Reason why a 100 year old Granite house is worth more than a stick framed plastic sided and sheet rocked house, same reason a old used shovel is with 2x a new flimsy one, same reason when you go to buy a vacum you would pay more for a 20 year old used good one than a cheap plastic bells and whistles junk that works for a year and then dies.
Wake up N-Sheep
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Yeah, now take your old 4x4 and crash it into a wall at 100 km/h per hour. I bet you are dead inside.
The Nexus isn't cheaply made. The problem is glass, y'know, that material prone to breaking.
Anyways, yes, some old things are good, for example I have a 15 year old water boiler and I wouldn't want any other water boiler.
But phones develop so rapidly that I won't consider old technology. Yeah some things may be better, but Nexus has better screen, fast updates, better SoC and so on.
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The phone that people chooses to use is because they want to. If you don't like it, then don't use it, but you shouldn't just bash the phone like that just because you don't like it
I could name 100 of reasons why nexus 4 is better than gsg2x
Here's some:
1. Better processor (also future proof)
2. Bigger and nicer display
3. NEXUS device (pure android, easy rooting, big development, Google supported)
4. LTE equipped
5. Nicer design
6. More ram
7. Overall smoother and faster experience (trust me, I've owned both devices)
Do I need to say more?
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I own a S2 in no way does it compare to a N4 and fyi I'm awaiting my new N4 to come. Stop trolling. Hopefully mod will ban.
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blendobass said:
Nope, I am not, I came up with 5 very good reason a cheaper to buy new Samsung S2x is better than a Nexus 4 FOR ME.
I need to plug in a full keyboard, I need removable storage for my lifestyle as a DJ, I need extra battery or I can't have a phone working many times, I need a phone that can withstand some abuse in the outdoors,
... these are far more important than 1 gig extra storage and a better screen.
Blaming me for trolling is just your way of not having a valid argument to my 5 good reasons that the Nexus 4 is a a downgrade.
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Well, I reported the thread as trolling. There is no reason to post this thread. You aren't asking a question. All you are doing is fishing for ....trolls.
If they leave it open then I guess you are correct. You are not trolling.

Thread closed as there's no real point to it. You're not happy with your phone so you replaced it with a different one, it happens all the time but you don't need to post your complaints because if everyone did this everytime they made the wrong decision for them then the forum would be a mess.
Thanks
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Got my Hands on HTC One

so i got my hands on an HTC ONE and im very impressed.
design wise, its feels like a mac book pro, its almost as thick as GS3.
Sense 5.0 just might win me back from my Note 2.
camera was great, and picture and video quality was awesome.
one thing that really took me by surprise was the speakers.
sound quality was awesome and i could hear some bass in phone speakers.
i would love to have this phone out, but i wont buy it because no removeable battery & no expandable memory.

Could you make some sample photos and post them in this thread? Love to see some photos in low and normal light conditions.

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Could you make some sample photos and post them in this thread? Love to see some photos in low and normal light conditions.
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sorry i had to give it up to somenoe else for now
but once i get it back i will

nas02302 said:
design wise, its feels like a mac book pro, its almost as thick as GS3.
Sense 5.0 just might win me back from my Note 2.
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Mac book pro feel. Nice way to describe it :laugh:
Definitely want to get my hands on it now.

I used to be all about I won't get a phone without removable battery and or no SD slot.
However, the more I think about how I use a phone and hoping if something did happen to the battery, your carrier would help you out, then I see no issue in getting this phone. 64G is plenty of space for me, so I am good there.
So getting this phone, but going to test the heck out of it at the store before hand.

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I used to be all about I won't get a phone without removable battery and or no SD slot.
However, the more I think about how I use a phone and hoping if something did happen to the battery, your carrier would help you out, then I see no issue in getting this phone. 64G is plenty of space for me, so I am good there.
So getting this phone, but going to test the heck out of it at the store before hand.
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i had the evo lte for a bit and i absolutely hated that fact that i could not remove my battery, and thats one of the reasons i dont have a galaxy nexus on my line, i need all of my 64gb of storage, i have about 30 gb of movies and 20 gb of music. im not giving up my note 2 right now for anything.

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Mac book pro feel. Nice way to describe it :laugh:
Definitely want to get my hands on it now.
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True lol! MacBook pro feel sound great. So happy that the speakers sound great too!
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As for the non removeable battery, I really don't care as long as it isn't malfunctioning. I don't plan on keeping the phone for more than 2-3 years. I don't fast charge my phone either with higher amperage that would kill the batteries capacity and discharge rate.
As for the 64gb internal issue, I assume everyone that is complaining HAS a 64gb microsd that is full? Is 64gb really not enough for you people? I also realise you don't actually get 64 after android is installed, but still... With usb OTG just buy yourself a cable and microsd reader.
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kmyerslp said:
As for the non removeable battery, I really don't care as long as it isn't malfunctioning. I don't plan on keeping the phone for more than 2-3 years. I don't fast charge my phone either with higher amperage that would kill the batteries capacity and discharge rate.
As for the 64gb internal issue, I assume everyone that is complaining HAS a 64gb microsd that is full? Is 64gb really not enough for you people? I also realise you don't actually get 64 after android is installed, but still... With usb OTG just buy yourself a cable and microsd reader.
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With both of my previous phones, after less than a year the battery was substantially less efficient than it was when it was new - held less charge. I definitely wouldn't want to use the same one for 3 years. It's also nice to have the option to replace it with a higher-capacity one.
As for storage, 64GB would be fine, but you can't get the 64GB version in the UK. I regularly fill up my 32GB memory card with downloaded video, and that's standard-definition stuff; on the the One it'll be HD.
I've ordered a One anyway. I'm an addict.

You know, for those still iffy about to expandable storage, remember this. The one has a 64gig variant. Most of the devices out right now with expandable storage can only take a 64gig card maximum anyways. And that's only on a few devices.
I would understand if the one only had a 16gig variant. Even I wouldn't buy it with a 16gig internal storage either. But has a 32 and 64gig variants. So what's the deal?
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I have no problem not having a piece of crappy plastic on the back of the phone. This is the direction htc is going in.
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Shasarak said:
With both of my previous phones, after less than a year the battery was substantially less efficient than it was when it was new - held less charge. I definitely wouldn't want to use the same one for 3 years. It's also nice to have the option to replace it with a higher-capacity one.
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I have a Desire Z, which came out, I believe, November 2010. I got a larger Mugen battery for it as soon as it was released, maybe two or three months afterwards. I've been using that battery ever since. So that's over two years. It still holds its charge really well, I don't have any complaints.
I hear what you're saying though, it is a concern. The question is, how easy would it be to open up the One and replace the battery? Probably really difficult, which means that, effectively, these devices have a short lifespan.
It is a shame, really.
I don't think it's always either/or when it comes to unibody designs and an easily servicable battery - imagine if you could slide out a "cartridge" from the bottom of the phone, which would contain the battery, SIM card, SD card. The best of all worlds. The only compromise would be the latch to keep it locked.

I open phones to replace parts and etc. evo and evo 3d were easy to open and fix, evo lte was a bit complicated, but this guy is up there with Iphone, when it comes to opening and replacing part, I did not see any openings or areas where screws would be hidden, so replacing the battery is out of the question.
I keep three charged batteries with me all times (I saw Miami heat players leaving their hotel in Boston when they were here for a playoff a couple of years ago, and got to talk and shake hands w lebron and wade but couldn't take pictures because my battery had died) since than I dont buy any phone that does not have a removable battery. Right now I have a 16 gb note 2 with a 64 gb sd card and both are almsot full, I just like having an option to do what I want when I want to. If I didnt want those options I would've went with the iphone!
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One thing I forgot to mention that really caught my eye was blink feed.
Its pretty much windows 8 but very sexy.
And best feature for me so far and the most fun has been the IR capability, I been using the phone to control tv and cable box and its a great otions to have.
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nas02302 said:
One thing I forgot to mention that really caught my eye was blink feed.
Its pretty much windows 8 but very sexy.
And best feature for me so far and the most fun has been the IR capability, I been using the phone to control tv and cable box and its a great otions to have.
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Do you have the phone? Could you give us the list of countries the channel guide of the SenseTV supports?

this is a good phone !
this phone is truly awsome !
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truly this phone met up to expectation
camera build very good as well !:good:

nas02302 said:
I open phones to replace parts and etc. evo and evo 3d were easy to open and fix, evo lte was a bit complicated, but this guy is up there with Iphone, when it comes to opening and replacing part, I did not see any openings or areas where screws would be hidden, so replacing the battery is out of the question.
I keep three charged batteries with me all times (I saw Miami heat players leaving their hotel in Boston when they were here for a playoff a couple of years ago, and got to talk and shake hands w lebron and wade but couldn't take pictures because my battery had died) since than I dont buy any phone that does not have a removable battery. Right now I have a 16 gb note 2 with a 64 gb sd card and both are almsot full, I just like having an option to do what I want when I want to. If I didnt want those options I would've went with the iphone!
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It'll come apart. The HOX had no obvious openings either but you just need to pry the screen out and you've got access to everything. Being an aluminium body rather than polycarbonate (which could flex to allow you to get the screen out) there will have to be a proper way to pull it apart.
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I did not see see any openings for screws or an area where I can pry it apart..... will update once i get the phone
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coupetastic-droid said:
You know, for those still iffy about to expandable storage, remember this. The one has a 64gig variant. Most of the devices out right now with expandable storage can only take a 64gig card maximum anyways. And that's only on a few devices.
I would understand if the one only had a 16gig variant. Even I wouldn't buy it with a 16gig internal storage either. But has a 32 and 64gig variants. So what's the deal?
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This. I'm getting real tired of the argument about not enough storage. I feel at this point with a 64gb internal storage the point is invalid. Why would anyone have that many movies on a phone. Or music? I enjoy watching clips but a whole 2 hour video on my phone? No thanks. I loaded up all my music onto Google music a long time ago and have never has problems since trying to listen to it. Idk, I have never really had a problem with storage and I use my phones a lot!
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nas02302 said:
I did not see see any openings for screws or an area where I can pry it apart..... will update once i get the phone
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Well of course they aren't going to be obvious
http://www.droidsage.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/HTC-One-Unibody-Design.jpg
Look at the inside of the body along the side - a whole bunch of tiny tabs. My guess is these hold the screen in, pry the plastic side of the phone away from the screen (may need special tool) and the tabs will release the screen. Once screen is out you have access to everything.
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Was thinking about getting the htc one. ...

Don't flame, just points of notice...
But after reading some of the reviews about the battery life ( and it not being removable), reservations about blink feed, no sd card and the dexterity of the aluminum, the serviceability in case of malfunction and overall UI reservations, I think I will be sticking with the Galaxy note 2 and wait for either the s4 or note 3.
I have so much respect for htc [ had the one x, g2 and sensation) but I had to make the jump to Sammy after all the reports about the amazing note 2 ( I still consider it one of the, if not the, best phone on the market still) I had to make the jump. There is no denying the beauty of the of the htc one, but issues like no sd card ( basically have to plug phone into computer for efficient transfer of files, backup and restore), and no removable battery ( wtf htc? What if the phone freezes? What if I want/need extra battery life?) I just can't justify jumping from a great phone with amazing software in the note 2 to one with so many unfixable issues.
I want nothing more than to see great competition between these two power house Android manufacturers. Competition breeds progress in my eyes. But htc can't come up short on simple issues like serviceability, battery and lack of sd card and expect to compete with Sammy. Craftsmanship can only get you so far (look at the nexus 4, droid razor, DNA etc... already they are a thing of the past). You have to deliver on all fronts and htc, in my opinion, just missed the ball on this one.
Craftsmanship, serviceability, software, hardware, convenience and customer customization are the most important areas I think htc needed to focus on. Although they nailed some of these with flying colors, they dropped the ball hard on others. ..
What do you guys think?
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I had the note 2 great idea but it was too big for me, I didnt like the feel of the device or the screen. The battery life has been fantastic for me personally most have said this. I think sense 5 is refined and a lot closer to googles holo than touchwiz will ever be. Blinkfeed isnt an issue just move it off to the side and remove feeds. Getting rid of it altogether would be a nice option. 32GB for me is fine I can use a Nexus 4 with no problem. Don't see anything wrong with the aluminium and serviceability by HTC will also be fine. I dont see why they would make a phone thats impossible for them to repair.

Battery life is definitely an improvement over my One X. I can last a whole day of use, using the One in the same way as the One X.
I've personally never needed more that 32GB, I've always had about 10GB free on the One X. Not fussed about a removable battery as I drive quite a lot and can just top up the charge level in the car, although this is something I haven't needed to do with the HTC One!
It all comes down to personally preference and how you use the phone, which is why I've preferred the HTC's to the plasticy, although very nice Samsungs. Form AND function over function for me...

The choice is all up to you.. If you feel that Samsung is more your cup of tea than stick with Samsung if that's the brand you trust.
I don't think the battery is a huge issue being that I have a battery bank and plan on buying the mophie juice case AT&T have in their video.
And most my files is in the cloud so lack of SD slot doesn't bother me.
And if your phone freeze no matter what, if you hold the power button for 3secs it will reboot the phone.
All flagship phones will become a thing of the past once the latest and greatest comes out. The S3 is in the past just as the Note 2 will be once the Note 3 comes out. Not having a removable battery or sd slot doesn't shorten any device popularity if it was the flagship.

Obviously it's your choice not to get the One but those things you mentioned aren't a problem to me.
I don't mind not being able to take the battery out. I would clearly prefer it if it was removable but it's not enough of an issue to have stopped me getting it.
No SD slot doesn't matter to me either because 32GB will be enough as most of my films and games are on my Nexus 7 anyway. Even if I do run out of storage, I don't mind using online storage anyway.
Blinkfeed isn't as bad as I thought it would be but even if, I decide at any point, I don't want it anymore then I can always use a custom launcher to get rid of it anyway.
Finally, battery life has been really great for me over the last week so I really can't complain. Obviously some people will have had poor battery life but, from what I've seen, most people aren't having that problem.
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I thought note 2 lte was best phone until I saw and now own htc one.
Nothing like it, non removable battery is a non issue for most. Sd card would be nice but can live without it but not if it was Samsung phone, basically looks makes up for lack of ext storage.
I'm very impressed with what htc one offers and makes up for what it lacks in. Had it been plastic and amoled I wouldn't buy it.

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The choice is all up to you.. If you feel that Samsung is more your cup of tea than stick with Samsung if that's the brand you trust.
I don't think the battery is a huge issue being that I have a battery bank and plan on buying the mophie juice case AT&T have in their video.
And most my files is in the cloud so lack of SD slot doesn't bother me.
And if your phone freeze no matter what, if you hold the power button for 3secs it will reboot the phone.
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Although holding the power button does work sometimes, this is not true. If there is a system freeze in android, both hardware and software button will not work, hence the battery pull option.
Also the sd card option is not just a matter of size or having enough memory, its convenience of backing up my files to a place that can be stored and removed regardless of if the phone dies, internet service goes out ( how would you use your cloud service?) Etc..
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To be honest I only read some of your post. It amazes me that people get so worked up about things that aren't even issues.
It amazes me even more that people think you have to do a battery pull on phones that have removable batteries.
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whats the problem with blinkfeed?

pierrekid said:
Also the sd card option is not just a matter of size or having enough memory, its convenience of backing up my files to a place that can be stored and removed regardless of if the phone dies, internet service goes out ( how would you use your cloud service?) Etc..
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If by any chance AT&T or any carrier have a melt down (or my Internet provider has one ) I wisely choose to keep some files offline.. The important ones at least

The power button trigger is not coded on the kernel side so even if you flash a broken kernel + a broken ROM to it the force reset function would still work perfectly as it is a hardware implementation.
If what you explain was the case I'm pretty sure the One S would have been flooded by permanent brick devices because of it's confusing different types of processor where users tend to flash s4 ROMs, kernels & radios to the s3 versions and likewise.
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Although holding the power button does work sometimes, this is not true. If there is a system freeze in android, both hardware and software button will not work, hence the battery pull option.
Also the sd card option is not just a matter of size or having enough memory, its convenience of backing up my files to a place that can be stored and removed regardless of if the phone dies, internet service goes out ( how would you use your cloud service?) Etc..
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Very true everyone about the beauty of the craftsmanship. I too was once a hater of plastic ( I still own the asus tf700, beautiful device) but have to realize it means nothing if the material is weak. For me, having a phone that durable trumps a phone that just looks nice. Part of form factor is durability and serviceability. If I drop my asus or an htc one, I can almost guarentee that it will need to be serviced or have very noticable damage. In the case of the htc one however, a tear down of that magnitude ( just look around the net the tear downs...almost not worth doing) would require you to have to send it into htc, leaving you phoneless or with a replacement.
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Basil3 said:
To be honest I only read some of your post. It amazes me that people get so worked up about things that aren't even issues.
It amazes me even more that people think you have to do a battery pull on phones that have removable batteries.
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Would really appreciate it if you read my entire post, as you would see there is no malice or disrespect on my part, just points of notice. Appreciate your post though!
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I had the note 2 great idea but it was too big for me, I didnt like the feel of the device or the screen. The battery life has been fantastic for me personally most have said this. I think sense 5 is refined and a lot closer to googles holo than touchwiz will ever be. Blinkfeed isnt an issue just move it off to the side and remove feeds. Getting rid of it altogether would be a nice option. 32GB for me is fine I can use a Nexus 4 with no problem. Don't see anything wrong with the aluminium and serviceability by HTC will also be fine. I dont see why they would make a phone thats impossible for them to repair.
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how does the battery life compare vs the note 2, I also love the one but I am worried only about battery life.the note 2 is a very good device but I for it because of battery life mainly. Had the nexus 4 before it but the note 2 is the only phone so far that lasts a whole day with my usage.
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zaki67 said:
how does the battery life compare vs the note 2, I also love the one but I am worried only about battery life.the note 2 is a very good device but I for it because of battery life mainly. Had the nexus 4 before it but the note 2 is the only phone so far that lasts a whole day with my usage.
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Stick with the Note then cause the One wont get anywhere near the Notes usage.

Riyal said:
The power button trigger is not coded on the kernel side so even if you flash a broken kernel + a broken ROM to it the force reset function would still work perfectly as it is a hardware implementation.
If what you explain was the case I'm pretty sure the One S would have been flooded by permanent brick devices because of it's confusing different types of processor where users tend to flash s4 ROMs, kernels & radios to the s3 versions and likewise.
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Fair enough, however extending battery life or even replacing the battery if it dies (which all phone batteries die or diminish eventually) is nearly impossible. Hence the inconvenience.
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pierrekid said:
Would really appreciate it if you read my entire post, as you would see there is no malice or disrespect on my part, just points of notice. Appreciate your post though!
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Sorry, didn't mean to come off as rude. There just seems to be a lot of threads lately where people are just thinking aloud.
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zaki67 said:
how does the battery life compare vs the note 2, I also love the one but I am worried only about battery life.the note 2 is a very good device but I for it because of battery life mainly. Had the nexus 4 before it but the note 2 is the only phone so far that lasts a whole day with my usage.
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Yes as reckless said above, the battery life on the note 2 is second to none. If battery life is your only concern, either the note 2, droid razor max or the new lg would be your best bet.
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zaki67 said:
how does the battery life compare vs the note 2, I also love the one but I am worried only about battery life.the note 2 is a very good device but I for it because of battery life mainly. Had the nexus 4 before it but the note 2 is the only phone so far that lasts a whole day with my usage.
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It's not as good as the Note 2 (what I had previously), but better than the One X. For me, it's manageable. The Note 2 was too big for me, and I'm not a huge fan of the general feel of Sammy phones. Plus, I never used all the bells and whistles, even though I liked the thought of using them. I felt like I had to come up with reasons to use the s-pen or multi window.
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pierrekid said:
Don't flame, just points of notice...
But after reading some of the reviews about the battery life ( and it not being removable), reservations about blink feed, no sd card and the dexterity of the aluminum, the serviceability in case of malfunction and overall UI reservations, I think I will be sticking with the Galaxy note 2 and wait for either the s4 or note 3.
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There are reports of very good battery life for the one. It comes with a 2yr warranty from what I've seen. So if the battery has issues you can get it replaced. 64gb is more than enough for the vast majority.
There is no denying the beauty of the of the htc one, but issues like no sd card ( basically have to plug phone into computer for efficient transfer of files, backup and restore), and no removable battery ( wtf htc? What if the phone freezes? What if I want/need extra battery life?) I just can't justify jumping from a great phone with amazing software in the note 2 to one with so many unfixable issues.
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With an sd card you'd still have to plug the phone to a pc or at least the card into a card reader. So not sure what you're getting at here. I transfer everything via WiFi, so with a card or not makes no difference. You can also use a Bluetooth dongle if you're WiFi deficient.
With a freeze... again the power button is a hard coded feature to reset the handset. As far as extra battery life see mike1986's blog post:
http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.com/2013/03/removable-battery-do-we-really-need-it.html?m=1
Lastly, with serviceability. I for one can't believe it can't be done, regardless of what ifixit says. There are a variety of replacement parts available, including the entire back casing. Why would they have them if repair weren't possible.
In the end its what you like or prefer in a device that will help you justify the purchase. If you have a system for your storage and power needs and don't want to change the way you do things then maybe this unit isn't for you. But to say things can't be done is wrong. There are many options available to satisfy all of your perceived negative points. You may actually find some of them better than what you're doing now. The choice is up to you to try something new.

Battery

This battery is 700 larger than the one on my HTC one.. So theoretically shouldn't battery life be a lot better?
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big70tom said:
This battery is 700 larger than the one on my HTC one.. So theoretically shouldn't battery life be a lot better?
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it is
http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-G2-first-battery-test-results-surface_id46398
what come out of this is : this is not a smartphone for gamers ( heavy 3D )
My 2D chess shouldn't drain too much I think.

I'm not a gamer, I browse, watch videos, etc., so it should be better than my ONE. The LG battery is removable at least
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big70tom said:
I'm not a gamer, I browse, watch videos, etc., so it should be better than my ONE. The LG battery is removable at least
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korean version is 2610mah (removable) and international is 3000 (non removable )
htc one is 2300
what version you have ?

I'm waiting for Verizon version. I'm hoping it's the 3000
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You don't like the droid maxx ?
it has 5" and great battery.
better than G2 because it uses a dual core CPU and amoled screen.
Too bad its not in Europe

I'm gonna check it out but I'm worried it's mediocre. Well see
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Battery life
Got the Korean version, I was truly afraid that due to the huge display and all the special gimmicks the battery would be drained very soon.
Well, unlike my expectations, when I turn everything off - wifi, data, auto sync, lower the display brightness etc. it is much much better than the LGOG I had before. I used to have an ATandT version because I need sd card slot, that is why I preferred the Korean version even though the battery capacity is lower. But I get it through the night with less than 5 per cent loss of juice. I was pretty amazed because before I rooted the LGOG and downloaded the fast dormancy switch and other stuff that help save the device from complete discharge before the next evening, I used to charge it to the full in the evening and in the next morning I was at 82 per cent.... Of course, If I play games, surf and watch videos, it is a different story, but still, when I compare it to the LGOG, it does much better even in this respect - and I am not yet rooted...
So, from my experience - yes, the 2610 mAh battery has smaller capacity than 3000, but it is still pretty impressive and the interchangable battery and micro sd card slot are the assets that are definitely worth it.

Things like this confuse the heck out of me. The Korean version has the removable battery and SD card, two things that are desired in the USA, but we won't get that design. I don't get it.

jspradling7 said:
Things like this confuse the heck out of me. The Korean version has the removable battery and SD card, two things that are desired in the USA, but we won't get that design. I don't get it.
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Me neither. I am from Europe and it is the same story here. I have to say I am really satisfied with the Korean type, two batteries are better than one, after all 3000 < 2x 2610... micro sd is great and it works perfect.

jspradling7 said:
I don't get it.
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So simple in fact. In Western world the iphone is most popular model so LG tries makes "iphone" w/o slot and removable battery to please western ppl. Also, Nexis too don't have slots and removable batteries. And in Korea every model sells with 2 batteries included even Galaxy Note II had 2 batteries, it's a must. Only LGOG had non-removable battery. So for native korean ppl LG tries to make alternative for Galaxy S IV, and put slot and 2 batteries, and w/less charger in separate cover. For European w/less charger will be selling in separate case

Here is a great article for battery lifehttp://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-g2-battery-tests-are-done-here-are-the-results/
Makes me want to get it.

Here is a great article for battery lifehttp://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-g2-battery-tests-are-done-here-are-the-results/
Makes me want to get it.