Nandroid is just a script. Rooting is another topic. This is to allow you to backup your data before you root. It's simple, fast and easy.
Download http://www.multiupload.com/K4BZ22SIT5
Clear the data for Google apps, and system components such as Browser, to prevent force closes during restore.
If you skip this step, at the end of the guide clear dalvik, fix permissions, and clear the data for the items that keep closing.
adb push psneuter /data/local/psneuter
adb shell chmod 777 /data/local/psneuter
adb shell /data/local/psneuter
adb shell dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p26 of=/sdcard/data.img
Your data is now backed up. Sdcard apps will still be on your sdcard, and cache and dalvik need to be cleared anyway. System apps will be replaced and the settings for them is already included in data. In short, you only really need data.
Root your device. After you have rooted, updated, and are on the stock rooted build (before a custom rom for best compatibility), restore your data.
adb shell dd if=/sdcard/data.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p26
Now do a titanium backup if you plan to install a ROM that wipes data, install whatever ROM you planned, and restore titanium (if needed).
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Thanks. I'm always amazed at the ideas you come up with. Getting ready to try out ubuntu on the bolt.
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Thanks, I have been hoping for something like this.
You are basically doing a temp root, right? Genius. Would it be possible to then push/install a backup program (mybackup pro, Titanium, etc) and run it? I guess you would also need to get superuser in first.
tsachi said:
You are basically doing a temp root, right? Genius. Would it be possible to then push/install a backup program (mybackup pro, Titanium, etc) and run it? I guess you would also need to get superuser in first.
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It is possible, but in actually attempting to install Titanium during the process, I spent 15 minutes doing the temp root and this backup, 4 hours playing with su binaries and superuser apps without getting any combination to play nice, 10 minutes rooting and 20 minutes restoring this backup. It is all about efficiency...
so if I'm reading this right, this will allow restoring of data for games? That's the only thing keeping my wife from rooting.
Yes. You can re install the apps, then restore data files manually after root.
My wife is the same, won't root of I can't restore things after
nrfitchett4 said:
so if I'm reading this right, this will allow restoring of data for games? That's the only thing keeping my wife from rooting.
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twistedumbrella said:
It is possible, but in actually attempting to install Titanium during the process, I spent 15 minutes doing the temp root and this backup, 4 hours playing with su binaries and superuser apps without getting any combination to play nice, 10 minutes rooting and 20 minutes restoring this backup. It is all about efficiency...
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tsachi said:
Yes. You can re install the apps, then restore data files manually after root.
My wife is the same, won't root of I can't restore things after
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ok, so do the backup, root, reinstall her games, etc (nothing system), then use adb to restore data.
Makes complete sense as long as I don't think about it too hard...
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so if I'm reading this right, this will allow restoring of data for games? That's the only thing keeping my wife from rooting.
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Same with my friend, until he lost signal while I was at 3 bars and he got sick of the battery life
nrfitchett4 said:
ok, so do the backup, root, reinstall her games, etc (nothing system), then use adb to restore data.
Makes complete sense as long as I don't think about it too hard...
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Don't reinstall anything. Just clear out data for generic system apps (because his browser and gapps force closed until we did) backup, root, restore. The games are in the backup.
And yes, the ScriptFusion AutoBot already has this capability built in. When it detects you don't have root, it will perform the backup, and when you return after rooting it will restore it. It is actually about two steps away from being able to root a phone. Should be capable later this week.
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Almost done building an app to walk you through the entire root with backup process.
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From a similar thread quoted by jcase:
I advise against using this backup method, taking a DD of /data while its r/w can lead to corruption.
A better idea would be to push su (aka a temp root) into your path and use something like titanium backup to backup you data.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1174487
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From a similar thread quoted by jcase:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1174487
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Yeah, thanks. That is there for people who don't think to walk away during the process and not cause data to be changed until it finishes, which is the real risk. As stated, this was tested. You are more than welcome to add additional findings, but EVERYTHING can risk corruption. You are playing with the bootloader, which could cause a brick... Did you root anyway? There ya go...
As for the app, that actually does a temp root with su included, which is actually a whitelist temp root (psneuter already gave you a temp root) and offers the chance to perform a backup before proceeding, either with dd or titanium.
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Yeah, thanks. That is there for people who don't think to walk away during the process and not cause data to be changed until it finishes, which is the real risk. As stated, this was tested. You are more than welcome to add additional findings, but EVERYTHING can risk corruption. You are playing with the bootloader, which could cause a brick... Did you root anyway? There ya go...
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Yeah, I don't see the problem in doing what you were trying either, just wanted to bring it up . I would probably back it up outside of the booted OS area though just to be safe, like in recovery where can access adb still. Not sure if you can in hboot offhand though.
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Yeah, I don't see the problem in doing what you were trying either, just wanted to bring it up . I would probably back it up outside of the booted OS area though just to be safe, like in recovery where can access adb still. Not sure if you can in hboot offhand though.
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You would need root to root in recovery, which is a slight problem.
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You would need root to root in recovery, which is a slight problem.
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That's why I mentioned hboot (the bootloader) as well, which you wouldnt need to, though I am not sure if adb detects the device in hboot. Not at a computer, so I can't try at the moment. Please don't half read what I write. I would like to try to help out if possible.
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That's why I mentioned hboot (the bootloader) as well, which you wouldnt need to, though I am not sure if adb detects the device in hboot. Not at a computer, so I can't try at the moment. Please don't half read what I write. I would like to try to help out if possible.
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Wow, lol. Well I don't quite understand what you mean "which you wouldn't need to". I read the full comment, but tried to bypass the parts that showed complete lack of understanding as to why rooting is done the way it is, but since you called me out on it... The device detects usb in fastboot, but cannot flash a radio there due to s-on. It detects in recovery due to modifications to the image that require the capability to flash modified images. The temp root works like my script, in that it tricks the system into believing it is unlocked, while other things are done to allow it to be truly unlocked, at which time a replacement image is loaded. Help me help you by at least researching the process before trying to alter it. Thanks.
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Wow, lol. Well I don't quite understand what you mean "which you wouldn't need to". I read the full comment, but tried to bypass the parts that showed complete lack of understanding as to why rooting is done the way it is, but since you called me out on it... The device detects usb in fastboot, but cannot flash a radio there due to s-on. It detects in recovery due to modifications to the image that require the capability to flash modified images. The temp root works like my script, in that it tricks the system into believing it is unlocked, while other things are done to allow it to be truly unlocked, at which time a replacement image is loaded. Help me help you by at least researching the process before trying to alter it. Thanks.
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Eh, call me out, i dont care, it's just the internet and it's not the first or the last time I will be incorrect.
You are right though after trying in the bootloader myself. I only meant to do the datadump part, nothing else outside the os area.
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Eh, call me out, i dont care, it's just the internet and it's not the first or the last time I will be incorrect.
You are right though after trying in the bootloader myself. I only meant to do the datadump part, nothing else outside the os area.
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I read the full comment, but tried to bypass the parts that showed complete lack of understanding as to why rooting is done the way it is, but since you called me out on it...
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Please don't half read what I write.
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Almost done building an app to walk you through the entire root with backup process.
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How is this coming along?
Ok, I love my stock/unrooted Kindle Fire. I use it every day as is, but I want to try some of the ROMs out there to make it more of a tablet. I Sideload a number of apps not normally available in the Amazon market which seems fine for now so I'm in no realy hurry... Just things like Swype, Gmail, Play/Marketplace... etc would be nice.
However, In order to try this I have to wipe what I have... I have game saves that I don't want to lose (World of Goo, Plants Vs. Zombies, Peggle... etc.) I usually use Titanium Backup to do this on my phones but without rooting the KF I can't use Ti and it seems that I can't Root without wiping out all my data first.
Unfortunately, the Key Words of "Backup" "Stock" and "Unrooted" returns nearly everything within these forums so if you know a thread for doing this please feel free to direct me there since I can't seem to find a way to separate the wheat from the chaff.
OOps, I just realized I wasn't in Q&A when I posted... Go easy on me it was an honest mistake.
u can make a backup first if u want.
fastboot flash a recovery first.
fastboot flash bootloader
get into recpvery n make a backup immediately. then root after
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smirkis said:
u can make a backup first if u want.
fastboot flash a recovery first.
fastboot flash bootloader
get into recpvery n make a backup immediately. then root after
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Sounds easy enough... Reason I am leary is that in a lot of the initial device rooting I've dealt with, the initial recovery and bootloader are loaded along with a ROM which overwrites the data to a version which is rootable. If the Recovery and Bootloader images are seperate and won't touch the data then I would be a happy camper.
In digging further It looks like there is also a temporary root method but I can't confirm if the SU and TiBackup will work properly on a stock Fire with temp root. That would be perfection if they do... anyone without data they can't stand the thought of losing willing to verify?
what temp root? if there was, e would rewrite too methods lol.
we root via fastboot just like the nexus 7.
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smirkis said:
what temp root? if there was, e would rewrite too methods lol.
we root via fastboot just like the nexus 7.
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There was a method posted in the KF forum for using the Amazon Prime videos and still being rooted. I decided to just go full bore and just rooted/flashing TWRP.
Thanks for the help/suggestions! If I blow something up I'll come back a'lookin.
I'm sorry if this has been posted already, but searching on my phone for this answer has been less than ideal, so I've resorted to making a post. I'm hoping someone can link me to a thread that has this available.
I'm looking to root my phone, but I've already got it setup the way I like and I really don't want to go through the hassle of getting everything all ironed out again. So here is what I'm looking for:
1. Root the phone while remaining with the stock N4 ROM.
2. Don't need to "reformat" my phone or start from scratch.
3. Just to clarify 2, I want to keep the phone the way it is now, but just gain root access so I can take advantage of some apps that require it such as the Sixaxxis app for the PS3 controller and Titanium Backup.
4. Still will receive OTA updates without breaking root.
As of now I have no desire to go after any custom ROMs until I find some added functionality that I really see being useful that also doesn't break other features of my phone. So I'm really waiting on development to mature a bit more for this device before even considering something custom.
Thanks to anyone who can offer some help.
1. Root the phone while remaining with the stock N4 ROM.
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Rooting doesn't touch your ROM, so you're still in stock.
2. Don't need to "reformat" my phone or start from scratch.
3. Just to clarify 2, I want to keep the phone the way it is now, but just gain root access so I can take advantage of some apps that require it such as the Sixaxxis app for the PS3 controller and Titanium Backup
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Most, if not all, rooting methods have boot-loader unlocking as a prerequisite.
Unlocking boot-loader will wipe your phone. There is no alternative.
On the bright side, you can make a backup of your system, unlock boot-loader, restore your system, then root the phone.
4. Still will receive OTA updates without breaking root.
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As long as you don't flash customer recovery, you're fine.
What are my backup alternatives then to keep all those settings? I've only ever rooted one device before and I thought Titanium Backup (which requires root) was one of the only backup methods for this sort of thing? Or is there something I'm missing?
there is one backup that the app has a picture of one of those hula hoops use for saving people from drowning...
My backup pro.
I'd try this way. Backup whole ROM in custom recovery and if needed restore via app extractor (found on market)
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The guide stickied in this section is relevant to your interests.
Adb backup...
Unlock.
Restore...and it'll be like you never touched anything.
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My backup pro.
I'd try this way. Backup whole ROM in custom recovery and if needed restore via app extractor (found on market)
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How exactly is he going to backup the ROM in custom recovery.. if he is still bootloader locked?
ADB backup will backup your settings without being rooted.
OK thanks, I'll give that a try.
Bout to get my nexus 4, will be dropped off by UPS tomorow. And i have a few questions, if anyone will be kind enough to answer.
Would it be a smart idea to unlock the bootloader and root it with TWRP recovery like the second i take it out of the box so that way i dont have to back anything up?
And then, when i decide to switch to a non stock ROM i will just need Titanium backup to backup my stuff and then im good to go?
Also, one more question, since nexus's dont have SD cards, wont my titanium backups get wiped when i flash a rom?
Thanks
1) Yes it would probably be a good idea to unlock and root right away. That's what I done with my Nexus 7. I didn't install recovery though because I wasn't interested in custom ROMs. If you're going to be flashing things right away then yes install the recovery aswell.
2) Titanium Backup will do that perfectly for you but you could always just make the backup through recovery. As you said you'll be using TWRP it means you can restore data separately from a backup anyway.
3) You don't need to worry about backups being wiped because they're stored in the internal SD. It's essentially just space to make sure important things can still be safe even if you factory reset.
Hope that helps
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Btw I would recommend Helium instead of Titanium Backup for backing up your stuff. Works much more efficiently, at least for me. Helium backs up everything, apps and app data, launcher, WiFi settings, user dictionary, launcher setup, and all your SMS data. I really like it and I've fully replaced Titanium Backup with it.
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Instead of titanium backup use go backup pro and save it to the cloud
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After you root & unlock the device I strongly suggest you play around with the phone for a few days and see how battery is and its performance as well. After those few days if you want you could just install any rom or kernel you want. You'll thank me later. Lol
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1) Yes it would probably be a good idea to unlock and root right away. That's what I done with my Nexus 7. I didn't install recovery though because I wasn't interested in custom ROMs. If you're going to be flashing things right away then yes install the recovery aswell.
2) Titanium Backup will do that perfectly for you but you could always just make the backup through recovery. As you said you'll be using TWRP it means you can restore data separately from a backup anyway.
3) You don't need to worry about backups being wiped because they're stored in the internal SD. It's essentially just space to make sure important things can still be safe even if you factory reset.
Hope that helps
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Btw I would recommend Helium instead of Titanium Backup for backing up your stuff. Works much more efficiently, at least for me. Helium backs up everything, apps and app data, launcher, WiFi settings, user dictionary, launcher setup, and all your SMS data. I really like it and I've fully replaced Titanium Backup with it.
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ayo234 said:
Instead of titanium backup use go backup pro and save it to the cloud
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After you root & unlock the device I strongly suggest you play around with the phone for a few days and see how battery is and it's performance as well. After those few days if you want you could just install any rom or kernel you want. You'll thank me later. Lol
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thank you all so much! I really appreciate the answers. I will look into all three of those options for backing up my data! Thank you. and the internal sd card thing makes perfect sense so thank you for that explanation. You all have a good day!
So you guys seem to load ROMs on your phone like my wife tells me I'm fat. What is your backup strategy? What tools do you use? I plan on helping the community by testing new ROMs but would like the phone to not be down for huge amounts of time and be able to revert to a known good configuration when a ROM goes bad.
Thanks
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So you guys seem to load ROMs on your phone like my wife tells me I'm fat. What is your backup strategy? What tools do you use? I plan on helping the community by testing new ROMs but would like the phone to not be down for huge amounts of time and be able to revert to a known good configuration when a ROM goes bad.
Thanks
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TWRP recovery makes full backups that you can revert to. It'll be like nothing wrong happened. Only takes about 2 minutes and it's up to you how often you do it. I make backups whenever I make major changes or flash a new ROM.
Thanks for info I'll do that
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Cobra04 said:
TWRP recovery makes full backups that you can revert to. It'll be like nothing wrong happened. Only takes about 2 minutes and it's up to you how often you do it. I make backups whenever I make major changes or flash a new ROM.
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Yes, TWRP with a recent backup is like having a magical time machine. VERY important when you are rooted (being total admin of your handheld computer) and you are flashing new stuff which may be FANTASTIC or may be very buggy.
"Wow, wish I could go back to yesterday when my phone was working great!" You can.
I make a backup almost every day (or at least every other day), just as part of a morning routine, since it takes almost no effort and is cheap insurance. When I'm at work, I boot my phone into TWRP recovery, start the backup. Pick up the phone a few minutes later, delete the previous backup (I only keep one at a time), and then reboot the phone.
At least 3 or 4 times a year, I am VERY glad I made a backup.
You can even transfer off a backup file to a PC or elsewhere for safe-keeping if you wish.
Thanks did my first backup...
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Probably a different conversation, but what about when you install from a fresh new ROM? Do you just download everything back from the play store? And configure your software from scratch or is there and easy method for that?
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Probably a different conversation, but what about when you install from a fresh new ROM? Do you just download everything back from the play store? And configure your software from scratch or is there and easy method for that?
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Titanium backup can backup apps and your settings that you can restore once you flash a fresh ROM.
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Titanium backup can backup apps and your settings that you can restore once you flash a fresh ROM.
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Thanks yet again
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I backup with a new hack. Or iffy vulnerability.
Otherwise I just flash.
Pictures are on Google photo backup
Phone numbers are on Google cloud,
All I have to do is install a working ROM and if I have to I can use twrp and a cable to transfer it over.
Is there a way to backup just app data, titanium took forever to restore apps and data. I found it easier to restore via google,but now have to restore all app data
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So you guys seem to load ROMs on your phone like my wife tells me I'm fat. What is your backup strategy? What tools do you use? I plan on helping the community by testing new ROMs but would like the phone to not be down for huge amounts of time and be able to revert to a known good configuration when a ROM goes bad.
Thanks
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Wish I could load roms on my phone............
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Unlock the bootloader