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Hi there
I found a BIG limitation in the SG II Wifi.
The problem is that: the Wifi class on the SG II is N but each time you try to put it online, getting a signal from your router, your MAX wifi speed connection will be ALWAYS at 65mb/s
(off course my router support WiFi N and i perform a check also on other routers from friends of mine having, finally, the same result)
Now i'm running the custom rom from LitePro (K8 kernel based) and this problem still there.
I presume it is only a software limitation and not an hardware limitation.
Can someone find a solution? Is it maybe necessary to modify the apks that make the Wifi work like we did with the camera sound?
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Hi there
I found a BIG limitation in the SG II Wifi.
The problem is that: the Wifi class on the SG II is N but each time you try to put it online, getting a signal from your router, your MAX wifi speed connection will be ALWAYS at 65mb/s
(off course my router support WiFi N and i perform a check also on other routers from friends of mine having, finally, the same result)
Now i'm running the custom rom from LitePro (K8 kernel based) and this problem still there.
I presume it is only a software limitation and not an hardware limitation.
Can someone find a solution? Is it maybe necessary to modify the apks that make the Wifi work like we did with the camera sound?
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Interesting. How are you calculating the connection speed?
@wifi-settings, click on the connected network and the shown mbit's will never be over 65... And in the app: overlook fing (nice network tool) will say the same.
Why would you need 600 Mbps on a mobile phone?
I have an dual N band router too but seriously on my phone I don't see the point of more them 20 mbps...
jaapschaap said:
@wifi-settings, click on the connected network and the shown mbit's will never be over 65... And in the app: overlook fing (nice network tool) will say the same.
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Yes, exactly
Mew178 said:
Why would you need 600 Mbps on a mobile phone?
I have an dual N band router too but seriously on my phone I don't see the point of more them 20 mbps...
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Why not?
If i pay a phone 600 euros and who made it tell me that the Wifi is N so i WANT a WiFi N because my money are real money, not charms
I a lot more concerned with battery life and wifi range on my G2 then how fast it goes
I noticed when I use G instead of N the range seems be increase.
Mew178 said:
I a lot more concerned with battery life and wifi range on my G2 then how fast it goes
I noticed when I use G instead of N the range seems be increase.
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Unfortunatly i think that the battery problem is a tecnology problem: you have what you can have from this kind of tecnology, we can just make it a bit better but to have a reasonable time of charge we need a new kind of battery tecnology, compared to what the actual phone SLCD and Amoled screens ask to work .
Make sure you are on a channel without other APs.
To the OP, find an Android mobile phone that connects at a higher data speed than 65-72 Mbps and then come back with another dramatic thread.
Can you guys please do some research before making these dramatic threads?
Have u guys seen any difference in real life use ?
Forget about the numbers .
I always do video chats and works great.
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Borg3D5 said:
Hi there
I found a BIG limitation in the SG II Wifi.
The problem is that: the Wifi class on the SG II is N but each time you try to put it online, getting a signal from your router, your MAX wifi speed connection will be ALWAYS at 65mb/s
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This is the expected speed of 802.11n on a small device.
QAM-64 modulation delivers at most 65-72Mbit/s on devices without MIMO. A cell phone will not have MIMO capability for cost and size reasons (requires several antennas).
No vendor provides MIMO wifi chips for cell-phone usage, so even if you tried you would get rotten battery life and a huge cell phone as the MIMO chipsets are designed for having mains power or laptop batteries, and the antennas need physical separation.
This assumes 20 MHz channel. 11n does allow for a 40MHz channel, but you will never get this in practice on the 2.4GHz band as the standard requires devices to look for interferers in the band and back off to 20MHz channel for a long time if they see any. Given how crowded the 2.4GHz band is you will always see interferers hence you will always be forced to use 20MHz channels.
Search for 802.11n-2009 on wikipedia. (I'd post the link but the forum will not allow it)
Nevermind wifi speed. I used to get good signal sat in bed with my sgs 1. With this one I get 1 bar or no connection at all. Sometimes if i turn the phone I get enough for it to resume a download.
Fair enough 1 bar gives suffient speed but it drops completely
I've tried playing with channels, changing n/g to just g etc but the signal is just weak. Nothing changed with my router, my old phone got 2/3 bar signal, my wife's HTC desire gets 2. The laptop full bars.
I'm hoping this will be fixed in a firmware update some time.
Shame cus otherwise I love this phone. (Although bit miffed with Yamaha instead of wolfsen sound, hope they release version with wolfsen. Or sgs3 )
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65mb is more then u need in a phone wouldnt you think plus range like other have said is more important
Borg3D5 said:
Why not?
If i pay a phone 600 euros and who made it tell me that the Wifi is N so i WANT a WiFi N because my money are real money, not charms
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Well in theory you should get better range with n chipset (though some are reporting the opposite!)
So you pay more money to get N and with it better range and slightly better throughput than G ?
skibadee said:
Nevermind wifi speed. I used to get good signal sat in bed with my sgs 1. With this one I get 1 bar or no connection at all. Sometimes if i turn the phone I get enough for it to resume a download.
Fair enough 1 bar gives suffient speed but it drops completely
I've tried playing with channels, changing n/g to just g etc but the signal is just weak. Nothing changed with my router, my old phone got 2/3 bar signal, my wife's HTC desire gets 2. The laptop full bars.
I'm hoping this will be fixed in a firmware update some time.
Shame cus otherwise I love this phone. (Although bit miffed with Yamaha instead of wolfsen sound, hope they release version with wolfsen. Or sgs3 )
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Same with me. Witn iPhone 4 I had 2 bars and good connection, with SGS2 I am forced to switch off wifi and using 3G instead, because no more than one bar of signal and I can't open any web page. I just ordered Netgear WN3000 repeater and I hope it will help me to increase the signal, but I will have more antennas in my bedroom to frying my small brain
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Same with me. Witn iPhone 4 I had 2 bars and good connection, with SGS2 I am forced to switch off wifi and using 3G instead, because no more than one bar of signal and I can't open any web page. I just ordered Netgear WN3000 repeater and I hope it will help me to increase the signal, but I will have more antennas in my bedroom to frying my small brain
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Same here!!!!!
I'm next to my router and I get 3/4 !!!!!
It's really a problem! I used to have signal in some areas, whereas now with GS II I get no signal at all
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Same with me. Witn iPhone 4 I had 2 bars and good connection, with SGS2 I am forced to switch off wifi and using 3G instead, because no more than one bar of signal and I can't open any web page. I just ordered Netgear WN3000 repeater and I hope it will help me to increase the signal, but I will have more antennas in my bedroom to frying my small brain
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my experience is different from yours. I get slightly better wifi reception than my captivate with wndr3700 router
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I don't think the graphical representation on the notification bar is important. I've got better reception on my G router than I have with my htc hero.
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i dont see how this is such a big limitation. if youre gonna be that upset and nit picky about a device, then any phone u get thats worth any amount of money wont satisfy you.
I've noticed that my Note has been getting really slow wifi speeds. I've tried speedtest.net using the same server, and my laptop will consistently get around 18mbps, while my Note will only get 3mbps. My Samsung Infuse will get around 12+ mbps. I've tried turning wifi off and back on, but still not dice.
That's weird... Are you running a custom rom and/or kernal?
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That's weird... Are you running a custom rom and/or kernal?
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Bone stock.
me too
I thought it was just my imagination but when connected to wifi my connectivity is slow as treacle. Stock standard config with a few apps installed on my Note.
Anyone have any ideas please?
Seems Samsung just uses a very bad wifi chipset or useless antenna. This is a general Samsung issue but it has the worst wifi.
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I've got no wifi issues whatsoever. How is the wifi on your computer/notebook? If you're running windows on your computer try this program: inSSIDer
You can determine which channel is the least crowded. You can also see which channel gives you the highest signal strength.
Hope this helps..
Steelduines said:
I've got no wifi issues whatsoever. How is the wifi on your computer/notebook? If you're running windows on your computer try this program: inSSIDer
You can determine which channel is the least crowded. You can also see which channel gives you the highest signal strength.
Hope this helps..
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Totally agree ... its something related to the wifi hotspot and the channel you are using .... i get over 20 mbps upload and download over wifi .... i connect my note with my laptop using connectify ,, and my laptop is connected via LAN 100 mbps connection (yes its really 100 mbps , m in southkorea and speed here is just the best) my laptop gets around 100 Mbps on speed test.net but my note sticks around 20 mbps ....
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1895188934.png
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Jesus, can I move in?
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If you see the same results with the Note close (same room) as the router then i suggest you fiddle with the router wifi settings.. pick a different SSID channel f'rinstance
FYI i get 16Mbps on the Note, and many users have reported up to around 50mbps or so..
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I've noticed that my Note has been getting really slow wifi speeds. I've tried speedtest.net using the same server, and my laptop will consistently get around 18mbps, while my Note will only get 3mbps. My Samsung Infuse will get around 12+ mbps. I've tried turning wifi off and back on, but still not dice.
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I think some issues you don't even have to worry about, anything probably over 3 mbps you phone browser wont load the page any faster because of system limitations, the only thing wear you'll notice a different is downloading studff, but I don't see any time you would need to, I get about 20-30 mbps on my note, but the pages don't load any faster than my 3g which is normally around 3-4 mbps.
~56mbit at work
12mbit at home
My Wifi is slow as molasses too. It's ridiculous. I'm not even sure what "change your ssid" even means. Would somebody be good enough to explain a little further.? It's ridiculous that I can't watch youtube on my Note while at home.
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My Wifi is slow as molasses too. It's ridiculous. I'm not even sure what "change your ssid" even means. Would somebody be good enough to explain a little further.? It's ridiculous that I can't watch youtube on my Note while at home.
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Ssid is the broadcast name of the wireless, so virginbroadband or whatever you see when you're searching for networks.
Selecting a different channel changes the spectrum that the Wifi uses. If you're in a crowded area, most people will use the default channel which means everyone's on the same spectrum and it can cause a lot of interference, so changing will often create a more stable bandwidth and therefor increase speeds.
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bumpin' an old thread here, got here through google.
Got the same problem, while my mate gets +50Mbit I only get 10 to 15Mbit on the same wifi.
Any idea how this comes?
Running PA 2.51.
ok don't laugh, but yes I still own a blackberry playbook. I recently bought a Nexus 4 and much to my displeasure I can barely get any connection at all when I try to connect the Playbook to my Nexus 4 portable hotspot. It's slow, connection constantly hangs, and more than half of the websites I try to connect to time-out. I'm so frustrated right now because even my crappy old Atrix 4g's hotspot worked twice as fast as this. The playbook connects fine with everything else BUT my nexus 4. Help?
How is the signal strength to begin with?
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How is the signal strength to begin with?
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no problems, about -80 dBm
Don't feel bad. I had a Playbook for a while. It was a nice piece of hardware. Ran fast and smooth. Not having any apps killed it for me.
Good luck with your tethering. Have you tried to tether anything else and see what speed it was receiving? Could it be a problem on your Playbook and not your Nexus?
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jelliottz said:
Don't feel bad. I had a Playbook for a while. It was a nice piece of hardware. Ran fast and smooth. Not having any apps killed it for me.
Good luck with your tethering. Have you tried to tether anything else and see what speed it was receiving? Could it be a problem on your Playbook and not your Nexus?
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I've connected my Playbook to various hotpots which were fine. When it tethers to my N4 though over half of the websites I try to load do not even load at all. Which is really bad since it would work with my older Atrix 4G's hot spot better than this phone. It's not completely broken, it's just really horrible.
I just tested my N4 hotspot with my old phone and the phone had little trouble keeping a good connection to it. The playbook works fine on standard PC wifi routers so it seems that the Playbook wifi antenna hardware simply sucks at picking up the Nexus 4 hotspot signal. I was planning to tough it out on this Playbook until the next Nexus Tablets get released so I hope they come soon!
no slowness in tethering my n7 to my n4 wirelessly. i get as fast of tethering speeds as i do hspa+/lte speeds.
No issues tethering to my tablet... I didn't notice a speed difference between my old Atrix in terms of hotspot speed when I upgraded to my Nexus 4. It probably has to do with the WiFi channel the Nexus 4 broadcasts in not being fully supported on the Playbook, or something like that
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lopezk38 said:
No issues tethering to my tablet... I didn't notice a speed difference between my old Atrix in terms of hotspot speed when I upgraded to my Nexus 4. It probably has to do with the WiFi channel the Nexus 4 broadcasts in not being fully supported on the Playbook, or something like that
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I think that's the cause as well. The Atrix 4G and Playbook were pretty close to each other in release dates so that's probably why I had easier compatibility using those two together
Just out of curiosity, try changing Security in "Set up Wi-Fi hotspot" to open and re-test.
I had an old Netgear card that had speed issues with WPA2 & AES, but was file on WPA & TKIP.
Worth a shot.
My phone tethers just fine!
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Before getting a Xperia Tablet Z, I read some reviews and saw some comparison videos of the device and stumbled upon an issue. Some of the reviewers mentioned very poor WiFi performance, others were quite happy with it. Got mine today, connected it to my WLAN and was very surprised, how slow the overall download speed was. Didn't find a real solution to this on the web, so I tinkered around with my router (DLink). WiFi channel selection was set to automatic detection, my other devices (Acer notebook and HTC One) worked very well and very speedy with those settings, but the Tablet Z seems not to like this particular configuration! So I set the WiFi channel to 9 and the WLAN standard to b/g/n mixed mode. Reboot, reconnect, happy me! I've got 64 MBit/s available and the Z was able to get around 800 kb/s before, with my new settings the speed ramped up to 20 MBit/s !
I hope this helps some of you Tablet Z users out there! :good:
In my case, i was getting bad wifi signal in my room (the wifi router is on the living room) with my tablet Z, even with signal drops, although my laptop and smartphone were getting good signal at the same place.
After flashing official CM10.1, the sony tablet is getting as good wifi signal as the other devices.
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chanel
Same here switching from 1 to 9 gave a speedboost from 9 mb/s to 40 mb/s :good:
I had a lot of issues with the wifi when I used the 4.1.1 stock firmware. After 4.2.2 the wifi behaved better. Setting the advanced wifi settings for keeping the wifi on during sleep to always fixed my wifi dropouts. This did not affect my battery life either.
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more2come said:
Before getting a Xperia Tablet Z, I read some reviews and saw some comparison videos of the device and stumbled upon an issue. Some of the reviewers mentioned very poor WiFi performance, others were quite happy with it. Got mine today, connected it to my WLAN and was very surprised, how slow the overall download speed was. Didn't find a real solution to this on the web, so I tinkered around with my router (DLink). WiFi channel selection was set to automatic detection, my other devices (Acer notebook and HTC One) worked very well and very speedy with those settings, but the Tablet Z seems not to like this particular configuration! So I set the WiFi channel to 9 and the WLAN standard to b/g/n mixed mode. Reboot, reconnect, happy me! I've got 64 MBit/s available and the Z was able to get around 800 kb/s before, with my new settings the speed ramped up to 20 MBit/s !
I hope this helps some of you Tablet Z users out there! :good:
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Hi i know this is a dum question. But how did you measure you download speed on your Tablet Z while connected to router ?
Speedtest app from playstore
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another dumb one lolll...how did u changed your wlan settingz? u mean settings from router? im on optic fiber and actually having nice speeds on pc but on my z devices i cant reach more than 3mb/s...
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Bump this up, this tablet has some serious hardware flaw, changed from auto to 9 and it's working lightning fast now, was slower that my budget HTC one s
Mujja said:
Speedtest app from playstore
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But the speed test app measures your download speed for the internet ? it doesn't measure the actual connected speed to the router ? if you get what i mean ??
UPDATE! LOL it's really simple, if you would like to find you actual connected speed to your wifi router.. Go to setting, then wifi then just click on the router your connected too. A window will pop up to show actual connected speed mines 72mbps
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another dumb one lolll...how did u changed your wlan settingz? u mean settings from router? im on optic fiber and actually having nice speeds on pc but on my z devices i cant reach more than 3mb/s...
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What kind of router do you own ???
hum loll don t know its the one provided by isp
compatible to 802.11/g/n
adsl/adsl2/optics fiber
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Alx31TLse said:
hum loll don t know its the one provided by isp
compatible to 802.11/g/n
adsl/adsl2/optics fiber
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don't your router have a sticker underneath it ??? check if it does or try http://192.168.0.1 or http://192.168.1.1 and your username and password will be admin admin
No there was no sticker underneath it.
I accessed my settings as u said with webpage, and changed it for 11.n and i ticked large channel (wich can affect neighbours's wifi lolll) and actually i saw maybe a small improvement of speed...will use it for sometimes to see
Thank u mate
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Thanks a lot. Switching channel on the router solved my slow connection issue completely.
Now I have to search for some other channel that's not quite as common as this one so as I won't disturb my neighbours and vice-versa.
Hello,
I purchased one of the Woot refurbished Nexus 10's and just received a few days ago. It looked spanking brand new/never touched when taking out of the box. Was on 4.2 so OTA updated to 4.3, then 4.4. Not rooted.
One of the main reasons I purchased it was to stream netflix and amazon prime. I was able to get amazon prime working with Dolphin browser and the flash hack, but both constantly stop/lag when trying to stream a movie (amazon with message 'loading video', neflix with 'buffering').
I'm on wireless N network with 5 bars through the house on everything except for the Nexus, which only shows 2 bars. No issues streaming netflix/amazon through laptop or roku. Even when I take the N10 right next to the router where it will then move to 5 bars, I still can't stream successfully.
I've put the MAC address on high QOS, and also cleared the cache partition. Anyone have any other suggestions of what I could try? Or does this sound like a defective unit?
I appreciate your help!
Why don't you try using the apps. There's a Netflix app and an amazon app. You. Won't need any hacks to get them working and I use the Netflix one just fine on mine.
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abdel12345 said:
Why don't you try using the apps. There's a Netflix app and an amazon app. You. Won't need any hacks to get them working and I use the Netflix one just fine on mine.
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Hello,
I did download the Amazon tablet app but couldn't find where you could watch Amazon prime, only shop?
I am using the Netflix android app, and it constantly says buffering with streaming.
Thanks
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Hello,
I purchased one of the Woot refurbished Nexus 10's and just received a few days ago.
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Well lucky you, I bought first day offer appeared and I still not got mine.
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It looked spanking brand new/never touched when taking out of the box. Was on 4.2 so OTA updated to 4.3, then 4.4. Not rooted.
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Good to know!
neemypeemy said:
One of the main reasons I purchased it was to stream netflix and amazon prime. I was able to get amazon prime working with Dolphin browser and the flash hack, but both constantly stop/lag when trying to stream a movie (amazon with message 'loading video', neflix with 'buffering').
I'm on wireless N network with 5 bars through the house on everything except for the Nexus, which only shows 2 bars. No issues streaming netflix/amazon through laptop or roku. Even when I take the N10 right next to the router where it will then move to 5 bars, I still can't stream successfully.
I've put the MAC address on high QOS, and also cleared the cache partition. Anyone have any other suggestions of what I could try? Or does this sound like a defective unit?
I appreciate your help!
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So I'd suggest three approaches:
Try initially a Wifi booster app. My N7 gets a weaker wifi than my N4, both in terms of bars and Mbit connection. I had to use a N7 Wifi booster. The one I tried was Internet Speed Master https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nezdroid.internetspeedmaster
Do a stock flash. WUGS to 4.4, to clear out any 4.2.2--->4.3--->4.4 sedimentary layers, assuming you're comfortable with flashing stock rather than OTA updates?
My N7 Wifi woes I had to tweak my router to finally fix, which I changed from "auto" band and auto channel width, to using the tablet's own Wifi, the Wifi analyser app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer , to find which band was least congested and then I manually made it that band and manually made it 20mhz, then my speed went up by a factor of 5 !
Collectively, I can't tell you which of all 3 ideas was the "killer" one but I tried all 3 and Hulu on my N7 got progressively better. The most intrusive of the above is the middle one, so try say 3 then say 1 then finally 2.
I'd also appreciate feedback on progress as if this is a problem with N10 I'll be in your same shoes middle of the week when Woot's chosen idiotic postal service finally delivers.
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Well lucky you, I bought first day offer appeared and I still not got mine.
Good to know!
So I'd suggest three approaches:
Try initially a Wifi booster app. My N7 gets a weaker wifi than my N4, both in terms of bars and Mbit connection. I had to use a N7 Wifi booster. The one I tried was Internet Speed Master https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nezdroid.internetspeedmaster
Do a stock flash. WUGS to 4.4, to clear out any 4.2.2--->4.3--->4.4 sedimentary layers, assuming you're comfortable with flashing stock rather than OTA updates?
My N7 Wifi woes I had to tweak my router to finally fix, which I changed from "auto" band and auto channel width, to using the tablet's own Wifi, the Wifi analyser app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer , to find which band was least congested and then I manually made it that band and manually made it 20mhz, then my speed went up by a factor of 5 !
Collectively, I can't tell you which of all 3 ideas was the "killer" one but I tried all 3 and Hulu on my N7 got progressively better. The most intrusive of the above is the middle one, so try say 3 then say 1 then finally 2.
I'd also appreciate feedback on progress as if this is a problem with N10 I'll be in your same shoes middle of the week when Woot's chosen idiotic postal service finally delivers.
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Yeah, I bought mine on 24th, was fretting because it was in shipping status for three days and then was delivered USPS Friday (I'm in FL). Saturday I received an email from Woot saying it was shipped....
I will try your suggestions and report back.
Thank you!
neemypeemy said:
Yeah, I bought mine on 24th, was fretting because it was in shipping status for three days and then was delivered USPS Friday (I'm in FL). Saturday I received an email from Woot saying it was shipped....
I will try your suggestions and report back.
Thank you!
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Ditto, ditto, not ditto, ditto, my email on Saturday showed a future Tuesday delivery. My unit is currently 20miles from house, apparently motionless for 3 days.
Thanks. My intention was immediately out-the-box flash to 4.4. KRT16S and root and then take it from there.
I'd also disable anything wireless on the N10 which isn't Wifi, to eliminate any interference inside your unit. I see from specs it has NFC so disable it and disable Bluetooth. If those last two ideas actually fix it then for sure your physical device has dud-ness but at least you got proof for a Woot return, or to negotiate for a credit if you can live with the problem.
Some of these refurbished units will have a legitimate reason for return, but as the original owner of your unit found, new units have issues too so I was game for a refurbished.
Good luck
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Ditto, ditto, not ditto, ditto, my email on Saturday showed a future Tuesday delivery. My unit is currently 20miles from house, apparently motionless for 3 days.
Thanks. My intention was immediately out-the-box flash to 4.4. KRT16S and root and then take it from there.
I'd also disable anything wireless on the N10 which isn't Wifi, to eliminate any interference inside your unit. I see from specs it has NFC so disable it and disable Bluetooth. If those last two ideas actually fix it then for sure your physical device has dud-ness but at least you got proof for a Woot return, or to negotiate for a credit if you can live with the problem.
Some of these refurbished units will have a legitimate reason for return, but as the original owner of your unit found, new units have issues too so I was game for a refurbished.
Good luck
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Ok, well tried all 3 and unfortunately nothing worked. The lagging now seems to be a litter better, but now the lips don't match the words in either netflix or amazon streaming, which is extremely annoying.. Also tried completely erasing after the direct flash to 4.4.
If anyone has anything else I could try I would greatly appreciate it..
Thank you,
Lynn
EDIT: So turned off the bluetooth as suggested above and lips sync now.... I want to listen with bluetooth headset, shouldn't this work??
Thanks
neemypeemy said:
Ok, well tried all 3 and unfortunately nothing worked. The lagging now seems to be a litter better, but now the lips don't match the words in either netflix or amazon streaming, which is extremely annoying.. Also tried completely erasing after the direct flash to 4.4.
If anyone has anything else I could try I would greatly appreciate it..
Thank you,
Lynn
EDIT: So turned off the bluetooth as suggested above and lips sync now.... I want to listen with bluetooth headset, shouldn't this work??
Thanks
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Saw on another xda thread someone got the sony dr-bt22s bt headphones to work on a note 10.01 without audio lag. I got these years ago and were in a box in the shed of old electronics to sell on ebay, so charging them up (3hrs), fingers crossed as the fresh install seems to have solved the loading/buffering issues so far.
Ok, I'm about ready to give up, bluetooth is off and just tested streaming again and the lip synching issue is same bluetooth on or off. No other streaming in the house, 5 bars everywhere except on the tablet.
If anyone has any ideas, please let me know, thanks!
Network bandwidth is more of a WiFi issue. Lip sync is more of an app issue.
You might have one or both. The fact you have lip sync issues implies to me an app issue (but you might still have WiFi issues also).
Try to eliminate it to Wifi performance by doing a more basic test like FTP off a LAN device. Compare to some other working performing well device.
FTP tends to more track WiFi performance as it is a simple light protocol. Don't do SFTP or SCP.
If you don't have a LAN device to copy off then at least try WAN test like a Internet bandwidth test because that at least shows your bandwidth off the Internet which matches your intended use of the N10. There are Android apps for bandwidth testing but whatever you compare to should be as similar as possible e.g. another well performing Android device.
Then those results will confirm it is WiFi or not root cause. If it is WiFi then sounds like you got a dud. If not WiFi then you have an app/Abdroid issue.
Did you do a FULL wipe and flash?
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nigelhealy said:
Network bandwidth is more of a WiFi issue. Lip sync is more of an app issue.
You might have one or both. The fact you have lip sync issues implies to me an app issue (but you might still have WiFi issues also).
Try to eliminate it to Wifi performance by doing a more basic test like FTP off a LAN device. Compare to some other working performing well device.
FTP tends to more track WiFi performance as it is a simple light protocol. Don't do SFTP or SCP.
If you don't have a LAN device to copy off then at least try WAN test like a Internet bandwidth test because that at least shows your bandwidth off the Internet which matches your intended use of the N10. There are Android apps for bandwidth testing but whatever you compare to should be as similar as possible e.g. another well performing Android device.
Then those results will confirm it is WiFi or not root cause. If it is WiFi then sounds like you got a dud. If not WiFi then you have an app/Abdroid issue.
Did you do a FULL wipe and flash?
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Hi,
Yes, I did a full wipe and fresh 4.4 install with wugfresh nrt. I do have a samsung galaxy s4 phone so will try speedtest from both to compare, thank you for the reply and suggestion!
android speedtest.net results..
Nexus 10 (4.4): Download 14.65, upload 2.37
Galaxy S4 (4.3): Download 17.21, upload 2.96
Has anyone seen issues with Netflix or Amazon Instant after 4.4 update?
neemypeemy said:
android speedtest.net results..
Nexus 10 (4.4): Download 14.65, upload 2.37
Galaxy S4 (4.3): Download 17.21, upload 2.96
Has anyone seen issues with Netflix or Amazon Instant after 4.4 update?
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Right so the N10 is getting pretty much the same raw bandwidth.
It might be worth doing these tests 3-5 times and average. N10 is slower but not enough to account for a major streaming issue.
I am sorry but I can't help you further but I'd say you have confirmed it is not really your N10 specific unit wifi fault so go ask your 4.4 and app questions in a more frequently accessed forum. There is about 5% of the postings in this forum than others due to few N10s sold.
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nigelhealy said:
Right so the N10 is getting pretty much the same raw bandwidth.
It might be worth doing these tests 3-5 times and average. N10 is slower but not enough to account for a major streaming issue.
I am sorry but I can't help you further but I'd say you have confirmed it is not really your N10 specific unit wifi fault so go ask your 4.4 and app questions in a more frequently accessed forum. There is about 5% of the postings in this forum than others due to few N10s sold.
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ok, thanks for your help!
turn off "Wifi optimization" ?
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I am sorry but I can't help you further ....
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Random stab at a possible clue? http://www.pocketables.com/2013/10/...ing-trouble-using-certain-apps-over-wifi.html
I tried it on my N7 which also suffers relatively poor Wifi, it seemed to nudge up a LAN FTP speed up by an average of 25% but such is highly erratic I'd have to download like 10GB with it on/off before I could form a conclusion..... (I might do that... but it will take a few hours....)
I'll give it a try, thanks! Seems to be doing much better after the straight 4.4 install rather than the updates from 4.2..
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I'll give it a try, thanks! Seems to be doing much better after the straight 4.4 install rather than the updates from 4.2..
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My N10 is the fastest thing on my LAN, 5 bars and 130Mbit speed, but it's actual file-transfer speed is the same about 4MB/s. If I plug the harddrive directly in I get 20Mb/s. I know to ignore what the bars reads as they are arbitrarily set by the vendor.
It is worrying that we seem to need to flash stock to overwrite and start from scratch to get performance. I can theorise what is causing the problems but I don't know. My guess is they are not fully testing upgrades and they're doing say stock, upgrade, test, not stock, install loads of apps, upgrade, test.
I learned over 20 years to do periodic fresh installs with Windows, and even Linux, I'm overdue to a stock Ubuntu install. There is a creeping slowness which accumulates and install/deinstall don't put it back exactly as-is. Android 4.4, I was playing with NTFS read/write and in terminal looking at modules and files, and I installed an NTFS app and deinstalled it but left a change in the filesystem over-writing a newer file with an older file and not undoing it in de-install. So imagine that crappy coding over an entire OS?
Also, my only lagginess was in background file copies making interactive use really slow, it happened in two totally different 4.2.2. devices and went away with 4.4 stock fresh install, that implies they have tweaked the underlying filesystem, or how caching is done. A filesystem is not something you can upgrade in-situ, well not easily.
I spent 2 days benchmarking 4.2.2---OTA----4.3----OTA----4.4 vs stock 4.3 and stock 4.4 and the performance gain is real, both Wifi speed, file transfer speed. Stability doesn't seem affected though. I'll also now work out the minimum apps I need and just keep total apps to minimum, as installing/removing is not perfect.