Hi there
I found a BIG limitation in the SG II Wifi.
The problem is that: the Wifi class on the SG II is N but each time you try to put it online, getting a signal from your router, your MAX wifi speed connection will be ALWAYS at 65mb/s
(off course my router support WiFi N and i perform a check also on other routers from friends of mine having, finally, the same result)
Now i'm running the custom rom from LitePro (K8 kernel based) and this problem still there.
I presume it is only a software limitation and not an hardware limitation.
Can someone find a solution? Is it maybe necessary to modify the apks that make the Wifi work like we did with the camera sound?
Borg3D5 said:
Hi there
I found a BIG limitation in the SG II Wifi.
The problem is that: the Wifi class on the SG II is N but each time you try to put it online, getting a signal from your router, your MAX wifi speed connection will be ALWAYS at 65mb/s
(off course my router support WiFi N and i perform a check also on other routers from friends of mine having, finally, the same result)
Now i'm running the custom rom from LitePro (K8 kernel based) and this problem still there.
I presume it is only a software limitation and not an hardware limitation.
Can someone find a solution? Is it maybe necessary to modify the apks that make the Wifi work like we did with the camera sound?
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Interesting. How are you calculating the connection speed?
@wifi-settings, click on the connected network and the shown mbit's will never be over 65... And in the app: overlook fing (nice network tool) will say the same.
Why would you need 600 Mbps on a mobile phone?
I have an dual N band router too but seriously on my phone I don't see the point of more them 20 mbps...
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@wifi-settings, click on the connected network and the shown mbit's will never be over 65... And in the app: overlook fing (nice network tool) will say the same.
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Yes, exactly
Mew178 said:
Why would you need 600 Mbps on a mobile phone?
I have an dual N band router too but seriously on my phone I don't see the point of more them 20 mbps...
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Why not?
If i pay a phone 600 euros and who made it tell me that the Wifi is N so i WANT a WiFi N because my money are real money, not charms
I a lot more concerned with battery life and wifi range on my G2 then how fast it goes
I noticed when I use G instead of N the range seems be increase.
Mew178 said:
I a lot more concerned with battery life and wifi range on my G2 then how fast it goes
I noticed when I use G instead of N the range seems be increase.
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Unfortunatly i think that the battery problem is a tecnology problem: you have what you can have from this kind of tecnology, we can just make it a bit better but to have a reasonable time of charge we need a new kind of battery tecnology, compared to what the actual phone SLCD and Amoled screens ask to work .
Make sure you are on a channel without other APs.
To the OP, find an Android mobile phone that connects at a higher data speed than 65-72 Mbps and then come back with another dramatic thread.
Can you guys please do some research before making these dramatic threads?
Have u guys seen any difference in real life use ?
Forget about the numbers .
I always do video chats and works great.
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Borg3D5 said:
Hi there
I found a BIG limitation in the SG II Wifi.
The problem is that: the Wifi class on the SG II is N but each time you try to put it online, getting a signal from your router, your MAX wifi speed connection will be ALWAYS at 65mb/s
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This is the expected speed of 802.11n on a small device.
QAM-64 modulation delivers at most 65-72Mbit/s on devices without MIMO. A cell phone will not have MIMO capability for cost and size reasons (requires several antennas).
No vendor provides MIMO wifi chips for cell-phone usage, so even if you tried you would get rotten battery life and a huge cell phone as the MIMO chipsets are designed for having mains power or laptop batteries, and the antennas need physical separation.
This assumes 20 MHz channel. 11n does allow for a 40MHz channel, but you will never get this in practice on the 2.4GHz band as the standard requires devices to look for interferers in the band and back off to 20MHz channel for a long time if they see any. Given how crowded the 2.4GHz band is you will always see interferers hence you will always be forced to use 20MHz channels.
Search for 802.11n-2009 on wikipedia. (I'd post the link but the forum will not allow it)
Nevermind wifi speed. I used to get good signal sat in bed with my sgs 1. With this one I get 1 bar or no connection at all. Sometimes if i turn the phone I get enough for it to resume a download.
Fair enough 1 bar gives suffient speed but it drops completely
I've tried playing with channels, changing n/g to just g etc but the signal is just weak. Nothing changed with my router, my old phone got 2/3 bar signal, my wife's HTC desire gets 2. The laptop full bars.
I'm hoping this will be fixed in a firmware update some time.
Shame cus otherwise I love this phone. (Although bit miffed with Yamaha instead of wolfsen sound, hope they release version with wolfsen. Or sgs3 )
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65mb is more then u need in a phone wouldnt you think plus range like other have said is more important
Borg3D5 said:
Why not?
If i pay a phone 600 euros and who made it tell me that the Wifi is N so i WANT a WiFi N because my money are real money, not charms
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Well in theory you should get better range with n chipset (though some are reporting the opposite!)
So you pay more money to get N and with it better range and slightly better throughput than G ?
skibadee said:
Nevermind wifi speed. I used to get good signal sat in bed with my sgs 1. With this one I get 1 bar or no connection at all. Sometimes if i turn the phone I get enough for it to resume a download.
Fair enough 1 bar gives suffient speed but it drops completely
I've tried playing with channels, changing n/g to just g etc but the signal is just weak. Nothing changed with my router, my old phone got 2/3 bar signal, my wife's HTC desire gets 2. The laptop full bars.
I'm hoping this will be fixed in a firmware update some time.
Shame cus otherwise I love this phone. (Although bit miffed with Yamaha instead of wolfsen sound, hope they release version with wolfsen. Or sgs3 )
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Same with me. Witn iPhone 4 I had 2 bars and good connection, with SGS2 I am forced to switch off wifi and using 3G instead, because no more than one bar of signal and I can't open any web page. I just ordered Netgear WN3000 repeater and I hope it will help me to increase the signal, but I will have more antennas in my bedroom to frying my small brain
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Same with me. Witn iPhone 4 I had 2 bars and good connection, with SGS2 I am forced to switch off wifi and using 3G instead, because no more than one bar of signal and I can't open any web page. I just ordered Netgear WN3000 repeater and I hope it will help me to increase the signal, but I will have more antennas in my bedroom to frying my small brain
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Same here!!!!!
I'm next to my router and I get 3/4 !!!!!
It's really a problem! I used to have signal in some areas, whereas now with GS II I get no signal at all
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Same with me. Witn iPhone 4 I had 2 bars and good connection, with SGS2 I am forced to switch off wifi and using 3G instead, because no more than one bar of signal and I can't open any web page. I just ordered Netgear WN3000 repeater and I hope it will help me to increase the signal, but I will have more antennas in my bedroom to frying my small brain
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my experience is different from yours. I get slightly better wifi reception than my captivate with wndr3700 router
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I don't think the graphical representation on the notification bar is important. I've got better reception on my G router than I have with my htc hero.
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i dont see how this is such a big limitation. if youre gonna be that upset and nit picky about a device, then any phone u get thats worth any amount of money wont satisfy you.
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Is it just me or do you find the wifi strength to be really poor?
My friend was at my house last night and his htc incredible said full signal and mine said 1 bar
Does software affect anything?
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Nope but the signal strength is poorly indicated bars mean little if you have no bars and full strength signal .
Use speedtest.net to measure .
jje
Yes I also noticed that when the signal is poor but the device is connected, the connection is blend but solid..
But the GS2 receiver is 1/3 than the receiver of the desire HD
I noticed some improvement with KF2 baseband imho the best receiver and the minor battery drainer for the device
for me its working fine. No issues
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for me its working fine. No issues
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I didn't say "issue" but that i've noticed that the power of the GS2 wifi receiver is minor in confront of the DesireHD receiver
Imho it is the only sin of this fanstastic, strongest device
Yeah, I also have poor wi-fi signal, regularly 1 or 2 bars less than iphone 4 or even my old htc desire. Sometimes this will happen even if I stand barely 2 feet away from the router. But the connection is always solid, when it's there.
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Yeah, I also have poor wi-fi signal, regularly 1 or 2 bars less than iphone 4 or even my old htc desire. Sometimes this will happen even if I stand barely 2 feet away from the router. But the connection is always solid, when it's there.
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Right....if the connection start, don't worry is will be rock solid
But, often the problem is catch the connection when the signal is poor
Agree on this. Mine showing 2 bars but i cant browse or it is slow as hell. On desire no problem at all.
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Well as long as it works (mine does, flawlessly), I really couldn't care less about how many bars are displayed.
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The wifi strenght sucks on my SGII too..
I was used to surf from my room , even with my iPod touch 3g (only B/G), but the SGII takes just one bar of signal and doesen't work, and that's strange considering that it supports B/G/N...
Well,it's a little crappy compared to the Desire HD admitedly,but meh,whatever.The final result is the same.The Desire HD has had the best wifi receiver among all my phones by the way,so we aren't comparing the S2 with some ****ty phone.
It puzzles me everytime I see one of these threads. I find the WiFi reception on the device to be great, much better than my last handset, Desire HD. The DHD would struggle to hold a connection in the rear bedroom of my last house, which was at the opposite end of the house to the router. It was so bad I had to use Connectify.me as a bridge via my laptop! The SGS2 would hold a connection without issue, even going out into the rear garden, something my N1 could not achieve. I'm stumped as to why some people really struggle with the signal strength on WiFi.
Regards.
Most of the the time my SGS2 show 1 out of 4 bars, even when i'm very close to wi-fi access point, however i woudn't say that the connection is worse comparing to when I have 4 bars. Probably this is a software issue...
should hope dev improve this. my Desire still can get the signal even if i'm outside of my house, and while reversing the car going out through the gate, it still catch the signal. GS2 didnt get this kind of reception, but it is fast once it does get reception.
I used to have the same Wi-Fi problems with my Galaxy S2 having little or no reception while all my other devices were working fine.
I fixed the problem by setting my phone to use static IP at all times when connected to the wireless network.
To do this go to:
Wireless and network > Wi-Fi Settings > Advanced (menu button)
Then check "Use static IP" and fill in the network details.
Ever since I did that, I have been getting at least three bars signal at all times and had no problems getting a connection inside or outside the house. I reckon it's a bug with the android firmware itself (I'm using rooted stock 2.3.3 KF3 btw). That or it hates my D-Link router.
ADropBear said:
I used to have the same Wi-Fi problems with my Galaxy S2 having little or no reception while all my other devices were working fine.
I fixed the problem by setting my phone to use static IP at all times when connected to the wireless network.
To do this go to:
Wireless and network > Wi-Fi Settings > Advanced (menu button)
Then check "Use static IP" and fill in the network details.
Ever since I did that, I have been getting at least three bars signal at all times and had no problems getting a connection inside or outside the house. I reckon it's a bug with the android firmware itself (I'm using rooted stock 2.3.3 KF3 btw). That or it hates my D-Link router.
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I'll try this when I'm at home mate and I'll report back
Cheers
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Just tested KG2 modem and its giving a much stronger signal at what was the extremes of range for other modems . Signal not wifi indicator .
jje
Im less than 2 meters away from the router and it indicates 2 bars of 3!! I had better indicators for the previos phones
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Just tested KG2 modem and its giving a much stronger signal at what was the extremes of range for other modems . Signal not wifi indicator .
jje
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I can confirm this JJe.
Also,lynxboy,something must have been wrong with your Desire HD.Currently,the S2 is the second best phone I've had in terms of connectivity,but my DHD is on a level of its own.It sometimes even beats my laptop and doesn't lose connection no matter how I hold it.I never believed that the S2's wifi is actually bad,but it's certainly not as good as the Desire HD's.
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The SGS2 doesn't like all routers equally. A couple of us with Netgear router's are getting great performance - better than with previous devices. It doesn't seem to like D-Link. D-Link's also cause its battery to drain faster. There's a thread started on that already.
I've noticed that my Note has been getting really slow wifi speeds. I've tried speedtest.net using the same server, and my laptop will consistently get around 18mbps, while my Note will only get 3mbps. My Samsung Infuse will get around 12+ mbps. I've tried turning wifi off and back on, but still not dice.
That's weird... Are you running a custom rom and/or kernal?
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That's weird... Are you running a custom rom and/or kernal?
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Bone stock.
me too
I thought it was just my imagination but when connected to wifi my connectivity is slow as treacle. Stock standard config with a few apps installed on my Note.
Anyone have any ideas please?
Seems Samsung just uses a very bad wifi chipset or useless antenna. This is a general Samsung issue but it has the worst wifi.
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I've got no wifi issues whatsoever. How is the wifi on your computer/notebook? If you're running windows on your computer try this program: inSSIDer
You can determine which channel is the least crowded. You can also see which channel gives you the highest signal strength.
Hope this helps..
Steelduines said:
I've got no wifi issues whatsoever. How is the wifi on your computer/notebook? If you're running windows on your computer try this program: inSSIDer
You can determine which channel is the least crowded. You can also see which channel gives you the highest signal strength.
Hope this helps..
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Totally agree ... its something related to the wifi hotspot and the channel you are using .... i get over 20 mbps upload and download over wifi .... i connect my note with my laptop using connectify ,, and my laptop is connected via LAN 100 mbps connection (yes its really 100 mbps , m in southkorea and speed here is just the best) my laptop gets around 100 Mbps on speed test.net but my note sticks around 20 mbps ....
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1895188934.png
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Jesus, can I move in?
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If you see the same results with the Note close (same room) as the router then i suggest you fiddle with the router wifi settings.. pick a different SSID channel f'rinstance
FYI i get 16Mbps on the Note, and many users have reported up to around 50mbps or so..
gundam83 said:
I've noticed that my Note has been getting really slow wifi speeds. I've tried speedtest.net using the same server, and my laptop will consistently get around 18mbps, while my Note will only get 3mbps. My Samsung Infuse will get around 12+ mbps. I've tried turning wifi off and back on, but still not dice.
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I think some issues you don't even have to worry about, anything probably over 3 mbps you phone browser wont load the page any faster because of system limitations, the only thing wear you'll notice a different is downloading studff, but I don't see any time you would need to, I get about 20-30 mbps on my note, but the pages don't load any faster than my 3g which is normally around 3-4 mbps.
~56mbit at work
12mbit at home
My Wifi is slow as molasses too. It's ridiculous. I'm not even sure what "change your ssid" even means. Would somebody be good enough to explain a little further.? It's ridiculous that I can't watch youtube on my Note while at home.
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My Wifi is slow as molasses too. It's ridiculous. I'm not even sure what "change your ssid" even means. Would somebody be good enough to explain a little further.? It's ridiculous that I can't watch youtube on my Note while at home.
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Ssid is the broadcast name of the wireless, so virginbroadband or whatever you see when you're searching for networks.
Selecting a different channel changes the spectrum that the Wifi uses. If you're in a crowded area, most people will use the default channel which means everyone's on the same spectrum and it can cause a lot of interference, so changing will often create a more stable bandwidth and therefor increase speeds.
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bumpin' an old thread here, got here through google.
Got the same problem, while my mate gets +50Mbit I only get 10 to 15Mbit on the same wifi.
Any idea how this comes?
Running PA 2.51.
Before getting a Xperia Tablet Z, I read some reviews and saw some comparison videos of the device and stumbled upon an issue. Some of the reviewers mentioned very poor WiFi performance, others were quite happy with it. Got mine today, connected it to my WLAN and was very surprised, how slow the overall download speed was. Didn't find a real solution to this on the web, so I tinkered around with my router (DLink). WiFi channel selection was set to automatic detection, my other devices (Acer notebook and HTC One) worked very well and very speedy with those settings, but the Tablet Z seems not to like this particular configuration! So I set the WiFi channel to 9 and the WLAN standard to b/g/n mixed mode. Reboot, reconnect, happy me! I've got 64 MBit/s available and the Z was able to get around 800 kb/s before, with my new settings the speed ramped up to 20 MBit/s !
I hope this helps some of you Tablet Z users out there! :good:
In my case, i was getting bad wifi signal in my room (the wifi router is on the living room) with my tablet Z, even with signal drops, although my laptop and smartphone were getting good signal at the same place.
After flashing official CM10.1, the sony tablet is getting as good wifi signal as the other devices.
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Same here switching from 1 to 9 gave a speedboost from 9 mb/s to 40 mb/s :good:
I had a lot of issues with the wifi when I used the 4.1.1 stock firmware. After 4.2.2 the wifi behaved better. Setting the advanced wifi settings for keeping the wifi on during sleep to always fixed my wifi dropouts. This did not affect my battery life either.
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more2come said:
Before getting a Xperia Tablet Z, I read some reviews and saw some comparison videos of the device and stumbled upon an issue. Some of the reviewers mentioned very poor WiFi performance, others were quite happy with it. Got mine today, connected it to my WLAN and was very surprised, how slow the overall download speed was. Didn't find a real solution to this on the web, so I tinkered around with my router (DLink). WiFi channel selection was set to automatic detection, my other devices (Acer notebook and HTC One) worked very well and very speedy with those settings, but the Tablet Z seems not to like this particular configuration! So I set the WiFi channel to 9 and the WLAN standard to b/g/n mixed mode. Reboot, reconnect, happy me! I've got 64 MBit/s available and the Z was able to get around 800 kb/s before, with my new settings the speed ramped up to 20 MBit/s !
I hope this helps some of you Tablet Z users out there! :good:
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Hi i know this is a dum question. But how did you measure you download speed on your Tablet Z while connected to router ?
Speedtest app from playstore
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another dumb one lolll...how did u changed your wlan settingz? u mean settings from router? im on optic fiber and actually having nice speeds on pc but on my z devices i cant reach more than 3mb/s...
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Bump this up, this tablet has some serious hardware flaw, changed from auto to 9 and it's working lightning fast now, was slower that my budget HTC one s
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Speedtest app from playstore
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But the speed test app measures your download speed for the internet ? it doesn't measure the actual connected speed to the router ? if you get what i mean ??
UPDATE! LOL it's really simple, if you would like to find you actual connected speed to your wifi router.. Go to setting, then wifi then just click on the router your connected too. A window will pop up to show actual connected speed mines 72mbps
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another dumb one lolll...how did u changed your wlan settingz? u mean settings from router? im on optic fiber and actually having nice speeds on pc but on my z devices i cant reach more than 3mb/s...
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What kind of router do you own ???
hum loll don t know its the one provided by isp
compatible to 802.11/g/n
adsl/adsl2/optics fiber
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Alx31TLse said:
hum loll don t know its the one provided by isp
compatible to 802.11/g/n
adsl/adsl2/optics fiber
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don't your router have a sticker underneath it ??? check if it does or try http://192.168.0.1 or http://192.168.1.1 and your username and password will be admin admin
No there was no sticker underneath it.
I accessed my settings as u said with webpage, and changed it for 11.n and i ticked large channel (wich can affect neighbours's wifi lolll) and actually i saw maybe a small improvement of speed...will use it for sometimes to see
Thank u mate
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Thanks a lot. Switching channel on the router solved my slow connection issue completely.
Now I have to search for some other channel that's not quite as common as this one so as I won't disturb my neighbours and vice-versa.
Hey everyone,
I currently have a Note 4 and an iPhone 6 and I use a Netgear Nighthawk AC1900 router at home for WiFi.
When in my room, my Note 4 only reaches the speeds shown in the attached picture while my iPhone reaches the maximum speed possible on my connection, which is 90.
They are both on a 5Ghz network. The exact same of course. How can it be there is such a dramatic difference? I'm really thinking of returning it if there isn't a solution. I really love this phone though so I hope it won't be necessary.
EDIT: I'm reviving my own thread, since I found out something important. After restarting my Note, the speed test easily reaches the same maximum as my iPhone 6. After a while however, it drops back to 30-ish or lower.
It can't possibly be that this is a good thing, right?
do you connect your device at the same time ?
I don't know if it's still the problem with todays device, but my past experience (like 1 or 2 years ago), apple device (ipad and macbook in my friends and my experience) use wifi in some way so other device have worse wifi speed
But that just our experience in my college wifi network.
Yes they were both connected at the same time. Disconnecting my iPhone and MacBook didn't help either unfortunately.
YoungStarDC said:
Hey everyone,
I currently have a Note 4 and an iPhone 6 and I use a Netgear Nighthawk AC1900 router at home for WiFi.
When in my room, my Note 4 only reaches the speeds shown in the attached picture while my iPhone reaches the maximum speed possible on my connection, which is 90.
They are both on a 5Ghz network. The exact same of course. How can it be there is such a dramatic difference? I'm really thinking of returning it if there isn't a solution. I really love this phone though so I hope it won't be necessary.
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Apple iPhone 6 comes with single band wireless AC adapter with duel-channel bonding 2Tx.
Galaxy Note 4 comes with dual band wireless AC adapter with tri-channel bonding 2Tx.
-->Single band wireless adapters have better peak performance because they are only connected to one antenna and all routers prioritize single PHY channel first. On the other hand, dual band wireless adapters have better consistent performance with higher max speeds because they are connected to two PHY channels, but have to sort out the distortions coming from two antennas. Some distortions can cancel out the signal that the device actually receives.
its the speedtest app which is messed up. i have a 25mbps connection and the desktop correctly shows 25mbps but the app shows 36mbps. try putting a 1 gigabyte file on an internal server and copy it to the iphone and note with dukto. you should get 144mbps or whatever your wifi speed is. 1 gigabyte at 144mbps should be around 1 minute to transfer.
http://www.msec.it/blog/?page_id=11
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Apple iPhone 6 comes with single band wireless AC adapter with duel-channel bonding 2Tx.
Galaxy Note 4 comes with dual band wireless AC adapter with tri-channel bonding 2Tx.
-->Single band wireless adapters have better peak performance because they are only connected to one antenna and all routers prioritize single PHY channel first. On the other hand, dual band wireless adapters have better consistent performance with higher max speeds because they are connected to two PHY channels, but have to sort out the distortions coming from two antennas. Some distortions can cancel out the signal that the device actually receives.
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So if I understand correctly, what you're saying is that in the long run, let's say when streaming or playing an online game, the Note 4 can more easily maintain a stable and fast connection, even though speedtest shows a fairly mediocre result due to it being like a 10 ten second test?
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its the speedtest app which is messed up. i have a 25mbps connection and the desktop correctly shows 25mbps but the app shows 36mbps. try putting a 1 gigabyte file on an internal server and copy it to the iphone and note with dukto. you should get 144mbps or whatever your wifi speed is. 1 gigabyte at 144mbps should be around 1 minute to transfer.
http://www.msec.it/blog/?page_id=11
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That's a good idea, however, my speeds are way lower than what my max speed is. I may still try this, however.
YoungStarDC said:
So if I understand correctly, what you're saying is that in the long run, let's say when streaming or playing an online game, the Note 4 can more easily maintain a stable and fast connection, even though speedtest shows a fairly mediocre result due to it being like a 10 ten second test?
That's a good idea, however, my speeds are way lower than what my max speed is. I may still try this, however.
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Yes that is absolutely correct! Single band adapters are made for peak performances and dual band adapters are for long-term consistency.
Great. Thanks your help. Learned something new today!
My speeds: see signature
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tkmobilesupport said:
Apple iPhone 6 comes with single band wireless AC adapter with duel-channel bonding 2Tx.
Galaxy Note 4 comes with dual band wireless AC adapter with tri-channel bonding 2Tx.
-->Single band wireless adapters have better peak performance because they are only connected to one antenna and all routers prioritize single PHY channel first. On the other hand, dual band wireless adapters have better consistent performance with higher max speeds because they are connected to two PHY channels, but have to sort out the distortions coming from two antennas. Some distortions can cancel out the signal that the device actually receives.
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I'm reviving my own thread, since I found out something important. After restarting my Note, the speed test easily reaches the same maximum as my iPhone 6. After a while however, it drops back to 30-ish or lower.
It can't possibly be that this is a good thing, right?
YoungStarDC said:
I'm reviving my own thread, since I found out something important. After restarting my Note, the speed test easily reaches the same maximum as my iPhone 6. After a while however, it drops back to 30-ish or lower.
It can't possibly be that this is a good thing, right?
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That sounds like a good thing. However if the speed is severely fluctuating every speedtest, I will contact Samsung Software Engineers to look into the issue.
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That sounds like a good thing. However if the speed is severely fluctuating every speedtest, I will contact Samsung Software Engineers to look into the issue.
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I have just contacted Samsung Netherlands and the guy I had on the phone insisted at first that it was my internet provider and the modem. After I told him I used a high-end router, not the WIFI modem my ISP provides, he kept on saying it was the router. Even after I thoroughly explained that all other devices worked fine in the same room, he kept on saying it was the router. All-in-all, completely useless, I would say. Are there any other things you can think off? Or any other XDA members to help out please!?
Try with 2.4 GHz.
5 GHz WiFi is extremely poor when travelling through walls.
Note 4 has a very small and insignificant antenna thus speeds drop tremendously when there's a wall in between WiFi router and phone.
I believe iPhone uses the whole metal strips on top and bottom as antenna
I have an Asus AC66U. On my Note 4, when connected with 5 GHz, and I am in line of sight with the router, I am able to receive a good speed ~ 200 Mbps. When in my own room, there's a wall, I can only get 12 mbps to 30 mbps.
However, my desktop uses an Asus PCE-AC66 wifi card. I am able to achieve max speeds of ~200 Mbps with speedtest. (It has 3 huge antennas).
Edit: My Desktop is in the same room where I fail to get any good 5 GHz speed on Note 4.
In the end, I just use 2.4 GHz...
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I have just contacted Samsung Netherlands and the guy I had on the phone insisted at first that it was my internet provider and the modem. After I told him I used a high-end router, not the WIFI modem my ISP provides, he kept on saying it was the router. Even after I thoroughly explained that all other devices worked fine in the same room, he kept on saying it was the router. All-in-all, completely useless, I would say. Are there any other things you can think off? Or any other XDA members to help out please!?
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Can you provide me the model number of your device? I will look into this with the Samsung Engineers.
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Can you provide me the model number of your device? I will look into this with the Samsung Engineers.
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Sure thing. Please see the attached image. Thanks for helping out.
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Sure thing. Please see the attached image. Thanks for helping out.
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I will post the response as soon as I receive it.
Thanks for reaching out to Samsung Executive Support. We've received your request and is investigating this issue. We will reply within 48hrs with a solution. Your executive support ID is: SMN900F-11904493_Bug.
Samsung Executive Support Team
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I will post the response as soon as I receive it.
Thanks for reaching out to Samsung Executive Support. We've received your request and is investigating this issue. We will reply within 48hrs with a solution. Your executive support ID is: SMN900F-11904493_Bug.
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Great, thanks. Can't wait to hear what they have to say.
until you do an actual test (i.e. transfer a file across from the network and time it) youre not going to get any useful responses.
like i said - the speedtest app is not useful as a test. its buggy and broken. its not your router. its the app youre using.
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Great, thanks. Can't wait to hear what they have to say.
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I have received a reply:
Thanks for reaching out! It's good to hear from you again!
New kernel/drivers are on the way in the next update and should address most WiFi issues that users are experiencing. The update is labeled Beta-2 N910FXX-M2. You can be access this file on our internal website.
In the meanwhile, please inform the end user to turn off WiFi power saving. 1) Open dialer and enter *#0011#. 2) Press the menu icon on the top right and press WiFi Power Saving. 3) Tap on the On button, it will change to Off. 4) Restart your device.
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I have received a reply:
Thanks for reaching out! It's good to hear from you again!
New kernel/drivers are on the way in the next update and should address most WiFi issues that users are experiencing. The update is labeled Beta-2 N910FXX-M2. You can be access this file on our internal website.
In the meanwhile, please inform the end user to turn off WiFi power saving. 1) Open dialer and enter *#0011#. 2) Press the menu icon on the top right and press WiFi Power Saving. 3) Tap on the On button, it will change to Off. 4) Restart your device.
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That was quick! I have changed the settings and I'll be home in an hour or two. I will do a test every hour from then to see if the WiFi speeds remain consistent.
On another note, I would like to thank you for helping me out. I really appreciate it. Do you work at Samsung or something?
Hi Xda,
Got this new ASUS Zenfone 3 Zoom ZE553KL phone and wondering if I am able to change the wifi driver or system configuration because its locked down to only 802.11g often my phone gets only 54mpbs !! While my other phone 150mbps on my 2.4g router. Also the phone does not support 5ghz or dual band so it only can go up to 72mbps in the best case which it is not even capable of 5 out of the 10 times I use it.
This really sucks because I see a notable connectivity slow down compared to my older phones !! When downloading or watching a YouTube video.. Ridiculous that Asus did cut corners on the wifi connectivity back to a standard that was introduced between 2003 and 2009 !!!
The Snapdragon specifications website shows it should support 802.11ac 5g.
In my old Lenovo phone sits the same SoC, and it does have proper wifi connectivity.
Did ASUS cheat, is it really a snapdragon or a Mediatek processor? Mac address vendor of the wifi hardware shows Asus rebranding.
Can I even root this puppy?
Snapdragon specs say:
Wi-Fi Standards: 802.11ac Wave 2, 802.11a/b/g, 802.11n
Wi-Fi Spectral Bands: 2.4 GHz, 5 GHz
Peak speed: 433 Mbps
Channel Utilization: 20/40/80 MHz
MIMO Configuration: 1x1 (1-stream)
Peak QAM: 256 QAM
Wi-Fi Features: MU-MIMO, Integrated baseband
Even my 90 euro budget phone from back in 2014 went to up 150mbps..
I also have a bad feeling that there are a lot of cut corners on the wifi hotspot as well that I will have to use weekly for work.
If there's no proper way of fixing this. No more Asus phones for me. I already have a bad feeling that I need to VOID my warranty for it to be able to change anything like usually..
Other issues about the phone:
Bottom screen has two light halo effects in the screen (QC error !!!!)
And like always some problems (bugs) and removed features (latest firmware as of today)
1(bug). Set screen brightness to low, open camera app, close camera app, now the screen brightness will not always go completely down to what it was..
2. Show navigation bar feature missing. Change volume sound cannot be disabled.. Volume increasement half the steps of my Lenovo and previous phones. Blue screeen filter can't be modified, the default setting is useless because you can hardly see the difference.
Pros:
Regular software updates
Good camera
Amoled screen (but if you are unlucky you get a screen with halo in the bottom)
5000mah battery !
Other than that it seems to be a good phone for this amount of money.
You seems to be very confused. I've absolutely no problems with the wifi. It easily reaches 8-9MB/s on my 2.4GHz network and since I don't really care for the inferior 5GHz one that I do have but never use due to much weaker signal.
It's not the best phone in the world, but for the 140 bucks I paid for it, certainly it's a nice one.
I think you've set your expectations too high really.I see you've got a P2, I've had it for a while too and to be honest The Z3Z is better in so many ways, especially Camera, Speaker, Build, Price etc.
I'm afraid that you'll have to deal with the slow speed on wi-fi. I have a 100 mbps connection at home, and all phones i've tested get 95-105 speeds on speed tests, but the Zoom S is stuck at 54mbps. Unless you're willing to develop for this phone and see if there's something barring it from going faster software-wise, it is what it is.
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You seems to be very confused. I've absolutely no problems with the wifi. It easily reaches 8-9MB/s on my 2.4GHz network and since I don't really care for the inferior 5GHz one that I do have but never use due to much weaker signal.
It's not the best phone in the world, but for the 140 bucks I paid for it, certainly it's a nice one.
I think you've set your expectations too high really.I see you've got a P2, I've had it for a while too and to be honest The Z3Z is better in so many ways, especially Camera, Speaker, Build, Price etc.
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You're right. It indeed is a good phone and the camera is better(speaker wise, I would prefer the Lenovo P2 but that's a personal opinion I guess), but I was disappointed about the WiFi, but yeah I'll just live with it. Seems they just didn't care about 5g for some reason. In my region 5G works a lot better then 2.4 even on longer range because of a lot of interference on the 2.4 spectrum. But yeah whatever, it works. The speed is indeed not terrible. Have done some more testing also with a WiFi hotspot I made and used in the hotel last time (worked flawlessly). I was in Germany and had a solid 4G connection, I guess the testing was in some way affected because of a poor cell reception or something (testing was done at home), or the DSL line at home had a slowdown at that time also not uncommon to happen..
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I'm afraid that you'll have to deal with the slow speed on wi-fi. I have a 100 mbps connection at home, and all phones i've tested get 95-105 speeds on speed tests, but the Zoom S is stuck at 54mbps. Unless you're willing to develop for this phone and see if there's something barring it from going faster software-wise, it is what it is.
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I just deal with it, it is no big deal. Have been using the phone now for quite some time and it is fine. The only thing that sucks is that often in places where I go 2.4g spectrum is filled up with bull**** and it slows down or loses connection strength, this is why I would prefer 5g also, but alright. It is not going to happen..
Hey, I also had problems with slow WiFi. Almost to the unusable levels.
I've found out that switching Bluetooth OFF. Fixes the problem. Internet works back at full speed provided by ISP, and WiFi at routers' max.
I'm not sure if it's another firmware bug, or issue with MiBand/Bluetooth speakers.
I hope this trick will work for you