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will the N7100 or the N7105 work on Tmobile or AT&T's 4G? and will it work on Tmobile's HSPA+?
No LTE on international version.
You can get H+ on AT&T I know.. Not sure about tmo
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So what you're saying is there is no LTE chip in the international version, correct?
I'm using the international one on the AT&T. Just have the H+ only but speed is good.
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I'm using the international one on the AT&T. Just have the H+ only but speed is good.
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Yep. I was contemplating selling mine and getting the LTE version (on contract) but HSPA+ is fast enough for Netflix in HD. Fast enough for me! Don't need the carrier bloat, contract extension and battery reduction.
I'm getting 5-8 Mbps down and 750-1,000 kbps up on Tmo in NYC with my N2.
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so what would you guys say? should I go for the Tmo version for LTE or international and skip the carrier bloat? I only have a 3G phone right now, is the increase in speed of LTE over HSPA+ a big enough deal? also will the international version work on Tmo HSPA+ or only on AT&T?
U should consider on battery consumption..i heard lte using high consumption battery..better ask community from att for note 2 thread it self..
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so what would you guys say? should I go for the Tmo version for LTE or international and skip the carrier bloat? I only have a 3G phone right now, is the increase in speed of LTE over HSPA+ a big enough deal? also will the international version work on Tmo HSPA+ or only on AT&T?
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Uhh... if you want to use it on T-Mobile expect 2G speeds unless you're in an area where they've started or finished the 1900 MHz refarm (even if they do, it'll be pretty much limited to a city or county, but anywhere else you won't get 3G/HSPA speeds at all)
here's a link to a website with reported sightings of 1900MHz refarm on T-Mobile:
http://www.airportal.de/
Also, the T-Mobile version of the Note II has support for AT&T HSPA as its HSPA radio is a pentaband (so it'll work pretty much everywhere else on HSPA), also the radio of the T-Mobile version is DC-HSPA, or more commonly known as HSPA 42mbps whereas the Internaltional and AT&T versions have HSPA radios with support for only 21mbps. The T-Mobile version also has LTE bands for AT&T and the eventual T-Mobile LTE network, but is currently DISABLED in the software, so we'll have to wait to get that unlocked (I also heard there'll be requirement of a LTE SIM card, but I can't say that for a fact yet).
In essence, if you're going to spend ~$700, get the T-Mobile one, at least you'll have warranty, better signal on HSPA, LTE support later for T-Mobile and AT&T, and as a result, you'll get a better resale value when its time.
I'm using an unlocked TMIB on at&t and there's no LTE
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I'm using an unlocked TMIB on at&t and there's no LTE
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I wonder if that's because it lacks the right bands or just because it's disabled in the software?
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Uhh... if you want to use it on T-Mobile expect 2G speeds unless you're in an area where they've started or finished the 1900 MHz refarm (even if they do, it'll be pretty much limited to a city or county, but anywhere else you won't get 3G/HSPA speeds at all)
here's a link to a website with reported sightings of 1900MHz refarm on T-Mobile:
http://www.airportal.de/
Also, the T-Mobile version of the Note II has support for AT&T HSPA as its HSPA radio is a pentaband (so it'll work pretty much everywhere else on HSPA), also the radio of the T-Mobile version is DC-HSPA, or more commonly known as HSPA 42mbps whereas the Internaltional and AT&T versions have HSPA radios with support for only 21mbps. The T-Mobile version also has LTE bands for AT&T and the eventual T-Mobile LTE network, but is currently DISABLED in the software, so we'll have to wait to get that unlocked (I also heard there'll be requirement of a LTE SIM card, but I can't say that for a fact yet).
In essence, if you're going to spend ~$700, get the T-Mobile one, at least you'll have warranty, better signal on HSPA, LTE support later for T-Mobile and AT&T, and as a result, you'll get a better resale value when its time.
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thanks for the info! I'll prob get the tmobile version after all. I am in a refarm area according to your link, but I wouldn't want to be restricted to my area and lose good speeds when I drive somewhere else.
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In essence, if you're going to spend ~$700, get the T-Mobile one, at least you'll have warranty, better signal on HSPA, LTE support later for T-Mobile and AT&T, and as a result, you'll get a better resale value when its time.
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I'm using an unlocked TMIB on at&t and there's no LTE
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Exactly, achu, are you sure it's possible to get LTE working on T889 on AT&T's network in the future? Please be certain when you state so, because we already have enough mis-info here on the forum thanks to the Samsung's decision on making *this* many variants. (already 14 or so)
Guys, I have the tmo version. This thing is amazing, and now I'm thinking of buying another one to send to my brother in the philippines. Not sure which would be the best model to buy, tmo US version or international version? Anyone from the phils who can cobfirm the bands use and iis it hspa or lte or something else??
Thanks
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I'm getting 5-8 Mbps down and 750-1,000 kbps up on Tmo in NYC with my N2.
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I have an international N2 bought in France (N7100XXALIH), and I am having trouble to get the H+ in Atlanta with tmo even though it's fairly well covered. I am stuck with Edge (which is quite frustrating) and tried to flash a few radios without any success. The tech guy from tmo told me that only tmo-N2 can use H+ so what you wrote is encouraging. Did you guys use a specific modem? Or did it work straight out of the box? Please help.
Just put your phones mode to wcdma it will only force h+ settings> moresettings>mobile networks > network mode choose wcdma if ur area has h+ it will pick it up otherwise no signal wont default to edge
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Just put your phones mode to wcdma it will only force h+ settings> moresettings>mobile networks > network mode choose wcdma if ur area has h+ it will pick it up otherwise no signal wont default to edge
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I did this already and, as you mentioned, the phone defaults to no signal if no h+ is fetched, and is rendered unusable. However, my friend is able to pickup the h+ network with much more ease using a tmo GN1 (both phones operate on WCDMA in this case). So I suspect something with the radio rather than the hardware, no strong statement here. I tried to flash icsblaze and others without any success (actually had to recover my system several times due to major crash). Are there any tmo radios available for Jelly Beans?
I know T- mobile is rolling out their 1900mhz band across the US this year, and in the last few days I've noticed much better signal strength and I just ran a speedtest and was very impressed by the results. I've had better upload results but this is by far the fastest upload speeds I've seen on the mobile data network.
Showed the 'H' icon next to the signal bars, I wonder if our phones will ever show 'LTE'?
I know I'm getting 4G but never says 4G. Always just 'H'.
Anyway, here's a screen if the results:
http://db.tt/V0IaSyjO
Close to 20Mbps!
Haha, I, as well as many others in this forum have been getting 20-25 off HSPA 42. There is an internal setting in the Nexus 4 to enable LTE, and if you connect to LTE, it shows the appropriate symbol, too. Currently, the flavor of LTE that the Nexus likes is only available in Canada (and maybe other places, but not US yet as far as I know), but it's starting to get deployed in the US via T-Mobile. It started off in Las Vegas and Kansas, or will be starting off, so if you're not in either of those places, you probably don't have LTE.
AW: Are these speeds LTE level?
Look under Settings-About the phone- status, there you can see the type of connection
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Its always gonna say h. There are ROMS that replace the icon with a 4g icon but most of them leave them as is. That doesnt mean your not getting 4g , plus those speeds look very good to me
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Those speeds are excellent for 4g, but with lte you're going to see upload speeds as fast as your download speeds.
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Haha, I, as well as many others in this forum have been getting 20-25 off HSPA 42. There is an internal setting in the Nexus 4 to enable LTE, and if you connect to LTE, it shows the appropriate symbol, too. Currently, the flavor of LTE that the Nexus likes is only available in Canada (and maybe other places, but not US yet as far as I know), but it's starting to get deployed in the US via T-Mobile. It started off in Las Vegas and Kansas, or will be starting off, so if you're not in either of those places, you probably don't have LTE.
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All good to know.
I'm in Seattle regularly, which was one if the first places T-Mobile rolled out their 1900mhz LTE service, do how do I turn on this internal setting you mentioned?
Thanks.
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All good to know.
I'm in Seattle regularly, which was one if the first places T-Mobile rolled out their 1900mhz LTE service, do how do I turn on this internal setting you mentioned?
Thanks.
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T-Mobile isn't rolling out LTE on 1900mhz. That's just 3G.
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T-Mobile isn't rolling out LTE on 1900mhz. That's just 3G.
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Interesting, I've received different information. I've spoken with level 3 tech support numerous times about the roll out of their 1900mhz band during 2013 across the US, and they confirmed that their version of LTE will use the 1900mhz frequency (which, incidentally is the most highly used global frequency for high speed data - I'm a British and Australian Citizen as well as US Citizen and use my phones worldwide). The 700mhz frequency is for Verizon LTE phones, so T-Mobiles decision to run 1900mhz will mean that AT&T customers can move to T-Mobile with their existing phones
Their current 3G and 4G runs on 1700mhz - of course your phone will only get 4G if it's hardware capable of 4G.
Here's an article that will explain it all for you:
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/4GNetworkEvolutionVendorsSelected
Uhh
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Interesting, I've received different information. I've spoken with level 3 tech support numerous times about the roll out of their 1900mhz band during 2013 across the US, and they confirmed that their version of LTE will use the 1900mhz frequency (which, incidentally is the most highly used global frequency for high speed data - I'm a British and Australian Citizen as well as US Citizen and use my phones worldwide). The 700mhz frequency is for Verizon LTE phones, so T-Mobiles decision to run 1900mhz will mean that AT&T customers can move to T-Mobile with their existing phones
Their current 3G and 4G runs on 1700mhz - of course your phone will only get 4G if it's hardware capable of 4G.
Here's an article that will explain it all for you:
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/4GNetworkEvolutionVendorsSelected
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I don't need an article.. T-Mobile is deploying band 4 LTE over 1700/2100mhz frequencies. The 1900mhz band is being refarmed to HSPAP which will allow AT&T users to use HSPAP on T-Mobile. This also allows T-Mobile to stop using 1700/2100 for HSPAP since they will be using it for LTE.
If you are calling T-Mobile and expecting their "level 3 tech support" to know anything, you're doing it wrong.
Also the article you posted even proves my point.. "Refarming 1900mhz for '4G HSPAP'"
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Uhh
I don't need an article.. T-Mobile is deploying band 4 LTE over 1700/2100mhz frequencies. The 1900mhz band is being refarmed to HSPAP which will allow AT&T users to use HSPAP on T-Mobile. This also allows T-Mobile to stop using 1700/2100 for HSPAP since they will be using it for LTE.
If you are calling T-Mobile and expecting their "level 3 tech support" to know anything, you're doing it wrong.
Also the article you posted even proves my point.. "Refarming 1900mhz for '4G HSPAP'"
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Thanks for your clarification. Good to know that we will get LTE regardless as the phone supports all those bands.
And, yes their tech support had been I'll informed before.... I was hoping that since several different people had said the same thing that there was consistency... Seems consistently crap information. However, 1700mhz currently is 4G, so moving it to 1900mhz is to improve signal strength through buildings etc right?
I've since looked at comparisons between HSPA+ and LTE... seems that LTE has a significant edge uploading, not that great of a difference download (especially as download speeds are often limited by the site you visit, regardless of how fast your carrier speed).
I'm sure I'll be happy with HSPS+ as I rarely upload much more than photos I take on my phone camera, and current 4G is plenty sufficient as it is..
Hello everyone,
I did a search in the q&a forums and didn't find anything about this. Is it possible for me to get 4g lte using an att sim card through straight talk? Just today 4g was activated in my area and it would be great to use that instead of my crappy internet connection which is like 3mb download. I know i would need to use either an older radio or a hybrid one for the nexus 4 to have lte functionality, but would it work on straight talk att?
Thank you for your help,
KerryWood34
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I don't know about about LTE on AT&T but if you go into Settings-More-Mobile Networks and enable Data Roaming then go to Access Point Names and hit Menu then reset to default you should see a slight increase in a good coverage area. I went from averaging 3 Mbps to 6 Mbps.
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KerryWood34 said:
Hello everyone,
I did a search in the q&a forums and didn't find anything about this. Is it possible for me to get 4g lte using an att sim card through straight talk? Just today 4g was activated in my area and it would be great to use that instead of my crappy internet connection which is like 3mb download. I know i would need to use either an older radio or a hybrid one for the nexus 4 to have lte functionality, but would it work on straight talk att?
Thank you for your help,
KerryWood34
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1) Straight Talk has no LTE, AIO (owned by AT&T and available in limited markets) is the only MVNO with LTE. Otherwise you need Go Phone (AT&T prepaid).
2) It only connects to LTE on 1700 MHz Band 4. Most of AT&T uses 700 MHz Band 17, but there are some Band 4 areas (Puerto Rico and Oklahoma City have been reported).
Best advice is to check if T-Mobile has good coverage in your area (I average 15 Mbps down just on HSPA+), and all of T-Mobile's LTE is on Band 4.
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I don't know about about LTE on AT&T but if you go into Settings-More-Mobile Networks and enable Data Roaming then go to Access Point Names and hit Menu then reset to default you should see a slight increase in a good coverage area. I went from averaging 3 Mbps to 6 Mbps.
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I meant my actual internet connection lol. I have centurylink in the middle of nowhere and their highest speed
is 6mb, but im lucky if i get 4mb. Having 4g would be a godsend because i could use a wireless hotspot for everything.
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1) Straight Talk has no LTE, AIO (owned by AT&T and available in limited markets) is the only MVNO with LTE. Otherwise you need Go Phone (AT&T prepaid).
2) It only connects to LTE on 1700 MHz Band 4. Most of AT&T uses 700 MHz Band 17, but there are some Band 4 areas (Puerto Rico and Oklahoma City have been reported).
Best advice is to check if T-Mobile has good coverage in your area (I average 15 Mbps down just on HSPA+), and all of T-Mobile's LTE is on Band 4.
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Unfortunately I dont think i get t-mobile coverage where I am. Only ATT. So there's no hope then huh?
Side note, I am half Puerto Rican and half Mexican. You just made me miss my island lol.
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I would beg for 3Mbps download on my Nexus4 on Straight Talk AT&T. The highest speed I every got was 1.06 Mbps.
If you live out in the middle of nowhere then you won't be getting LTE form any carrier any time soon. Best you will get is HSPA+ from AT&T. Also Chicago is another area where AT&T is using band 4 as they don't have enough band 17 coverage in that area to serve it properly.
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If you live out in the middle of nowhere then you won't be getting LTE form any carrier any time soon. Best you will get is HSPA+ from AT&T. Also Chicago is another area where AT&T is using band 4 as they don't have enough band 17 coverage in that area to serve it properly.
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I know there is 4g in my area now. Other phones in the house are getting 4g. I was just hoping there was some hope for my wife and I to be able to get 4g as well through ATT. How would i test which band my area is using and assuming I were able to get 4g what would be the steps to getting it on my nexus 4?
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straighttalk lte in Hawaii
KerryWood34 said:
I know there is 4g in my area now. Other phones in the house are getting 4g. I was just hoping there was some hope for my wife and I to be able to get 4g as well through ATT. How would i test which band my area is using and assuming I were able to get 4g what would be the steps to getting it on my nexus 4?
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Just noticed LTE on my wife's HTC One on straighttalk using an AT&T mvno here in Hawaii.
I only did one speed test 7mbs up and down. Pleasantly surprised.
Recently with the T-Mobile merge MetroPCS has supported bringing your own device, such as the nexus 4.
Most devices connected will use both Metro and T-mobiles towers, giving us overall better coverage.
The issue is that the Nexus 4 not supporting LTE by default won't connect to metro's network. So this halfens the merge, back to only T-Mobiles tower.
My question is, does anyone know how to connect the Nexus 4 to both networks? So far none of the LTE enabling mods don't work.
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That's not possible. The nexus 4 only supports band 4 LTE, which is what t-mobile uses. However, metropcs LTE is band 2, thus making it incompatible with the nexus 4.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US#Radio_frequency_spectrum_chart
Metropcs does have band 4 LTE, but that might already be integrated with T-Mobile and there'd be no distinction between the two networks.
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You shouldnt need to do anything to get your phone working on metropcs gsm except get a metropcs gsm simcard(no the ones in their old phones that had sim cards will not work), change the apn to metropcs lte (fast.metropcs.com) and of course activation. If youre only getting signal on 4g then you might have your phone on lte only. Be sure to enable lte/gsm only that way it can go down to 2g/3g/H. And it techinally runs only under tmobiles towers so if your area has weak tmobile towers thats the problem. you can use everything on the nexus 4 including band 4 lte if its included in your area. Metropcs is slowly becoming another mvno on tmobile. They still have cdma phones but theyre being phased out. Band 2 is most likely referring to their cdma LTE which is a differently system all together. Im on MetroPCS GSM. obviously you cant use cdma bands with this phone but on metropcs gsm you'll be fine. You get hspa+ and lte. Its quick and cheap and works pretty good. I get speeds ranging from 8mbps to 25 max when on lte. I flash phones and unlock phones to metro all the time so feel free to ask me any questions
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You shouldnt need to do anything to get your phone working on metropcs gsm except get a metropcs gsm simcard(no the ones in their old phones that had sim cards will not work), change the apn to metropcs lte (fast.metropcs.com) and of course activation. If youre only getting signal on 4g then you might have your phone on lte only. Be sure to enable lte/gsm only that way it can go down to 2g/3g/H. And it techinally runs only under tmobiles towers so if your area has weak tmobile towers thats the problem. you can use everything on the nexus 4 including band 4 lte if its included in your area. Metropcs is slowly becoming another mvno on tmobile. They still have cdma phones but theyre being phased out. Band 2 is most likely referring to their cdma LTE which is a differently system all together. Im on MetroPCS GSM. obviously you cant use cdma bands with this phone but on metropcs gsm you'll be fine. You get hspa+ and lte. Its quick and cheap and works pretty good. I get speeds ranging from 8mbps to 25 max when on lte. I flash phones and unlock phones to metro all the time so feel free to ask me any questions
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Now THAT is a clear, concise explanation of how MetroPCS works with the Nexus 4. THANK YOU!
1) Is US Cellular using LTE Band 12 up here in Maine?
2) Is Nexus 6P "certified" for Band 12 on T-Mobile?
3) What is (or where do I find out) the T-Mobile/US Cellular roaming agreement here in Maine?
When my Nexus 6P signs onto US Cellular, I am lucky to get "edge" coverage (but it does not seem to actually know how to use it). I understand that USC has LTE band 12 and am wondering why I cannot access it. There are no TMO towers in my area. I get great LTE coverage using Canadian (Bell/Telus) towers, but nothing useful for a huge area here in Maine as I travel south towards Augusta. Is the Nexus 6P a bad choice for TMO? Should I be using something else or is nothing going to actually utilize USC's LTE network? Hoping to resolve this because I need the Canada coverage TMO provides, but I also need coverage here in Maine. Is the USC LTE deployment actually band 12 here?
Thanks!
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1) Is US Cellular using LTE Band 12 up here in Maine?
2) Is Nexus 6P "certified" for Band 12 on T-Mobile?
3) What is (or where do I find out) the T-Mobile/US Cellular roaming agreement here in Maine?
When my Nexus 6P signs onto US Cellular, I am lucky to get "edge" coverage (but it does not seem to actually know how to use it). I understand that USC has LTE band 12 and am wondering why I cannot access it. There are no TMO towers in my area. I get great LTE coverage using Canadian (Bell/Telus) towers, but nothing useful for a huge area here in Maine as I travel south towards Augusta. Is the Nexus 6P a bad choice for TMO? Should I be using something else or is nothing going to actually utilize USC's LTE network? Hoping to resolve this because I need the Canada coverage TMO provides, but I also need coverage here in Maine. Is the USC LTE deployment actually band 12 here?
Thanks!
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US Cellular is a CDMA provider. They are not GSM so there is no edge to be used. The only part of their network you'd be able to possibly use is LTE, But I highly doubt you could roam on them due to if LTE did work, they're would be no way for SMS/Phone calls to work as you'd only be able to get a data only connection.
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US Cellular is a CDMA provider. They are not GSM so there is no edge to be used. The only part of their network you'd be able to possibly use is LTE, But I highly doubt you could roam on them due to if LTE did work, they're would be no way for SMS/Phone calls to work as you'd only be able to get a data only connection.
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US Cellular has shifted to GSM as well as the LTE. My iPad Pro does roam on their Edge network with no issues. The Nexus 6P does not like their network, but it can and does use CDMA where it is.
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US Cellular has shifted to GSM as well as the LTE. My iPad Pro does roam on their Edge network with no issues. The Nexus 6P does not like their network, but it can and does use CDMA where it is.
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US Cellular is still CDMA as stated on there website along with every phone they sell is CDMA/LTE. Yeah the 6P can use CDMA but there is no GSM carrier that has agreements with CDMA roaming except for Project Fi which uses Sprint, T-Mobile, and recently now U.S.Cellular for the nexus devices.
I was doing some digging and U.S.Cellular does have a few GSM towers up were your at but its for roaming purposes ONLY (it's technically not really uscellular though) it's just them to make a few dollars from Gsm carriers like T-Mobile haha. so that would explain why you can get edge not sure why your 6P won't roam on it correctly though. I highly doubt there is LTE available in those areas (GSM Wise) as GSM is not what u.s.cellulars main focus is as themselves they only provide that network for roaming I'm pretty sure it would at least be 3G though.
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Is that the "King Street Wireless" part of things? I had seen that mentioned on their web page.
hyelton said:
US Cellular is still CDMA as stated on there website along with every phone they sell is CDMA/LTE. Yeah the 6P can use CDMA but there is no GSM carrier that has agreements with CDMA roaming except for Project Fi which uses Sprint, T-Mobile, and recently now U.S.Cellular for the nexus devices.
I was doing some digging and U.S.Cellular does have a few GSM towers up were your at but its for roaming purposes ONLY (it's technically not really uscellular though) it's just them to make a few dollars from Gsm carriers like T-Mobile haha. so that would explain why you can get edge not sure why your 6P won't roam on it correctly though. I highly doubt there is LTE available in those areas (GSM Wise) as GSM is not what u.s.cellulars main focus is as themselves they only provide that network for roaming I'm pretty sure it would at least be 3G though.
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