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S-Pen Responsivity

Hey xda, i just got my GNote and i was hugely excited for one Feature: The S-Pen
I imagined it to be like the Wacom Tablets i used, barely Touch needed to respond but instead i feel like i got a faulty Device. How does your S-Pen react? Does it respond under its own weight, does it feel naturally to Touch or do you actually need to Press on the screen quite a bit? I feel like the Pressure of writing with a Normal Pen on Paper is needed for it to respond, natural while Writing or Scribbling but weird when trying to type or navigate through Menus. I cant seem to find anyone else reporting this kind of Problem, i was on the Latest stock Firmware and now on Rocket Rom GB, no change. Also is there an Test App to show the Pressure on the Pen? (Since its 128? levels Pressure Sensitive.)
Please help and tell me if i should get a new device or if this is normal.
Thanks in advance.

With mine, sometimes the phone reacts to the s-pen close to, but not actually touching the screen. Sometimes I have to do what I'm gonna do, then pull the pen quickly away from the screen to keep from another action being performed.

Mine has the same problem of not being responsive, and I can't for the life of me get it to be pressure sensitive. On top of that it lags quite a bit. I am hoping that it improves with ICS update, but I am not holding out much hope. I purchased it cause of the S pen, but having owned it a while, I would keep it without the S pen.

I don't have any of the problems mentioned, the s pen works smoothly without having to use much pressure, what apps are you guys using?
All of the standard Samsung apps work fine i.e. s memo etc
I use my Note to take handwritten notes on a regular basis and write at my normal handwriting pace using 7 notes from the market in cursive mode and it works flawlessly. I do not have to apply much pressure when writing.
I think you guys must have faulty units.

HasC said:
I don't have any of the problems mentioned, the s pen works smoothly without having to use much pressure, what apps are you guys using?
All of the standard Samsung apps work fine i.e. s memo etc
I use my Note to take handwritten notes on a regular basis and write at my normal handwriting pace using 7 notes from the market in cursive mode and it works flawlessly. I do not have to apply much pressure when writing.
I think you guys must have faulty units.
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look carefully at what you're writing and you'll notice the s-pen is off buy ~1-2mm. If you still can't see it change the line thickness (of the pen) to as low as possible then look carefully. It gives the illusion of being more accurate with a bigger line size.

Here's a thought...
Why don't you all SEARCH first, read the numerous threads on this very same subject, then purchase the app TOUCHSCREENtuner Pro. Then you can set the s-pen to write EXACTLY where you want w/o any left right up down error. I believe you might also be able to calibrate the touch pressure, but I'm not positive about that feature.
I bought the app the day it was released and have no complaints about the app price or the s-pen functionality. Try it!
The search button is your friend.
kraz
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It seems there is a large range in quality of s-pens. Many people report being able to write without the pen even touching the screen (pressure transducer triggered prematurely), and some report having to push too hard. Mine is just right. I think others should request s-pen replacements if their pen is either too sensitive or not sensitive enough.

i haven't ever had problems with the s-pen, but now i have the same named before. it's only before the update to LC1. maybe the rom has some wrong parameters about the s-pen. if it continues, i think i'll downgrade to LB2

asusgarb said:
i haven't ever had problems with the s-pen, but now i have the same named before. it's only before the update to LC1. maybe the rom has some wrong parameters about the s-pen. if it continues, i think i'll downgrade to LB2
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TouchScreenTuner Pro has a "Touch Sensitivity" Setting. Recommended setting is 25. I have it set to 20 and s-pen writes with almost no pressure at all.
kraz

krazman325 said:
Here's a thought...
Why don't you all SEARCH first, read the numerous threads on this very same subject, then purchase the app TOUCHSCREENtuner Pro. Then you can set the s-pen to write EXACTLY where you want w/o any left right up down error. I believe you might also be able to calibrate the touch pressure, but I'm not positive about that feature.
I bought the app the day it was released and have no complaints about the app price or the s-pen functionality. Try it!
The search button is your friend.
kraz
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Here's another thought.
According to the description, it also requires root, which some like me do not have.

I exchanged one pen under warranty. The second one works also like crap, but for this one i really have to push on screen. Crap.
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happy with the S-Pen, if yes explain

I am NOT very happy with my S-Pen because I have to press REALLY hard before the S-Pen touch register on the screen.
This makes the following very hard to do and not practical:
- Taking notes: kinda hard trying to take notes when I have to keep "jabbing" the screen really hard
- Drawing: forget about the pressure sensitive feature, there is only one for me --> press really hard!
I tried replacing the S-Pen (bought one from my local Fry's Electronics), no go.
How about you? Can you use the S-Pen on practical day-to-day basis...or this is just another "gimmick" for you?

I don't have to press any harder than I would with paper and a pencil. Although even now and again it will stop writing, like show a space between two lines because I didn't press hard enough. A lot of peoples are apparently too sensitive sometimes and will start to write above the screen... Samsung seems to have screwed up a few things with the note
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Looks like you have a problems with touch screen.

I try to use it. But always end up shoving it back in it's holder and just tapping out texts the old way.
Find it difficult to write with anyway, it doesn't flow naturally and seems a little behind all the time. Not got use to how fast or slow to use it.

The S pen is ok. Its not as good as I thought it was and I actually only use it to make rage comics and post them on 9gag.
Its not very useful for taking down notes on the spot
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My Problem is as follow :
There are 2 zones in my screen that don't respond to the pen at the First time,
I attached 2 screenshots showing :
The First with the blank untouchable 2 zones,
The second, is the same try, but I added some drawings later with my finger.
So this means that my screen is OK, and May be something is wrong with the S pen.
Any body experienced the same issue?
Sorry for the second screenshot, The volume bar came in
But you can clearly See the cercle with the + incidents. At the buttom zone.

Do you have a case with magnets?
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I use mine to play draw something and its great, love how accurate it is. Makes you seems like a right artist haahah

namelok said:
Do you have a case with magnets?
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I tell you what,
Even If I stayed a month digging, I would'nt guess!
Thank you Thank you Thank you so much.
You saved my note
The First thing I will do now, is to throw my case away, and look for a non magnetic one.
Take a look at my thread, That could interest you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620625

My S Pen works fine for writing and drawing. It's basically the same as writing with a pen for me in terms of pressure. Granted, it is thinner and a little less friction on the surface than pen and paper.
I write a lot on whiteboards for work and it is a little similar to that for me. When writing on a whiteboard, you don't anchor your hand on the surface like you would with paper.
Sometimes if I want to draw very accurately, I will anchor my writing hand on the fingers of the hand holding the phone that stick out from the right hand side. But I find writing like this slower.
I use the S Pen a lot more than I though I would before I bought it. I originally thought it would be a gimmick and just wanted the big screen, but I use it a lot for taking handwritten notes in FreeNote+ (I find this quicker than dealing with text conversion and auto-correction) and also find it a lot more accurate for drawing and photo editing.
I also find myself using it for Swype quite a lot. It's quicker than using my fingers. I think because there's less friction and you have a longer reach, so you hand doesn't actually have to move as much.
Also, the accuracy is excellent for some games like Fruit Ninja and Deer Hunter.

It works well for me. Though, need to get a bit of used to.
I use it mainly for taking notes...

I use mine when I am wearing gloves. No need to remove them.

I use it for taking notes an play DrawSomething! I love it. Everybody prases my drawings and at several iPhone players say they envy my Note and wish they had one
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Those who enjoy using the on, do you see any issue with it? I.e. Pen not registering in screen, must press hard, etc.

Alexanderbooth said:
I use mine to play draw something and its great, love how accurate it is. Makes you seems like a right artist haahah
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useful
I find the S-Pen incredibly useful whenever you want to write something down on the go.
I find it much faster to take out my phone and launch a smartly-placed app to start taking a quick note (phone number, adress, any work-related post-it...) rather than searching your pockets for something to write on and asking for a pen (though i still always carry one on me )
The trick is then to process the notes and not just leave them in that folder you never go to. Well, that just takes a little discipline.
As for good apps, i've only tried a few but i think the first important thing to look out for in such an app is it's capacity to transform you're wavery note-taking skills into a nice smooth handwritten text on the screen. The S-Memo tool does it pretty well but i would recommend something more like Papyrus (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1580716&highlight=papyrus) which has some pretty useful vector-imaging capabilities.
EDIT : I forgot to add that the s-pen is meant to work without pressure on the phone (though it still requires a minimum of contact), and works flawlessly on mine (i don't use cases or covers to protect the phone, i just take care of it.). Anyone needing to press hard on their phone for the s-pen to work has a problem, either with the phone or the pen. Consider having it checked.

I don't use it for all tasks, because that would just make things much harder. It's good for playing basic games though, like Draw Something, or just any other game where it feels better to use the S-Pen.

lanwarrior said:
Those who enjoy using the on, do you see any issue with it? I.e. Pen not registering in screen, must press hard, etc.
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No, I don't have such problem. Sometimes, I find it a bit sensitive than I had hoped.

If you have to press REALLY hard for it to register, it might be a good idea to go to a shop and test one out to see if it's the same as your unit.
Maybe try and test their S Pen with your phone to see if it's a problem with the S Pen or the screen.

I think the spen is to small for 1 handed users. But works perfectly fine for all spen activities.
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[Q] Good Stylus for note taking?

I bought a stylus for taking notes. I tested Evernote, Classic Notes Lite, Freenote, Genial Writing and Handwrite Note. But in the end I was quite disappointed. Either the Nexus 7 touchscreen is not sensitiv enough or my stylus sucks, but all the handwriting looked a lot worse than on paper and the apps offering handwriting recognition succeded only in 50% of the times.
How are your experiences?

red_12 said:
I bought a stylus for taking notes. I tested Evernote, Classic Notes Lite, Freenote, Genial Writing and Handwrite Note. But in the end I was quite disappointed. Either the Nexus 7 touchscreen is not sensitiv enough or my stylus sucks, but all the handwriting looked a lot worse than on paper and the apps offering handwriting recognition succeded only in 50% of the times.
How are your experiences?
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Typically the rubber tip cheap styli suck . I remember I got a metal mesh tip stylus for my transformer, worked wonders
THIS. IS. NEXUS.

Thanks for your input. Yes the ruber tip seems too big and too clumsy in order to be accurate enough for handwriting. I hope an expensive one will solve this issue since it would be really create to take notes.
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red_12 said:
Thanks for your input. Yes the ruber tip seems too big and too clumsy in order to be accurate enough for handwriting. I hope an expensive one will solve this issue since it would be really create to take notes.
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The S pen that comes with the galaxy note would be a good choice. I may get one seems like a really good pen and it works with more than just the Note.

ÜBER™ said:
The S pen that comes with the galaxy note would be a good choice. I may get one seems like a really good pen and it works with more than just the Note.
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i've tried to use that stylus on my Galaxy S3, but it doesn't work.
haven't tried to use it on my Nexus 7 tho.
as for the rubber stylus, mine ripped after a few years old, and so it doesn't work anymore.

mrhomiec said:
i've tried to use that stylus on my Galaxy S3, but it doesn't work.
haven't tried to use it on my Nexus 7 tho.
as for the rubber stylus, mine ripped after a few years old, and so it doesn't work anymore.
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That wouldn't work.works with the proprietary wacom digitizer of the note.
THIS. IS. NEXUS.

Note taking is the one thing I REALLY miss coming from a Thinkpad Tablet. The foam/rubber stylus are a piece of poop in comparison. The closest I've come is the Jot Pro Stylus or the GoSmart Stylus. They're not perfect in comparison to an active pen and tablet but they do the job a heap better than the other cheaper ones.

Those look awesome. Anyone try either of them?
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limbot said:
Note taking is the one thing I REALLY miss coming from a Thinkpad Tablet. The foam/rubber stylus are a piece of poop in comparison. The closest I've come is the Jot Pro Stylus or the GoSmart Stylus. They're not perfect in comparison to an active pen and tablet but they do the job a heap better than the other cheaper ones.
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The gosmart seems to be better reading amazon reviews. The jot seems to be less responsive according to reviews. I may just have to pick me up a go smart 200 series.
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The naked Teflon coated tip on the Gosmart feels a bit better writing on the screen than the plastic disk on the Jot and makes less of a tap, tap noise. The GoSmart feels "lighter" and smoother on the screen and more responsive.
Be warned though that I'm not brave enough to consider taking the 300 series Gosmart in my airplane carry on if I travel, it just looks and feels "dangerous"..
Jule from The Gadgeteer has tried a good selection of capacitive stylus (alebit on an iPad). Here's her reviews on the GoSmart and the Jot.
As I say they're never going to be as good as an active digitiser/pen combination though

I ordered Gosmart. Seems like the best and fairly reasonable.
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I have the jot pro.it came in the mail today. This does not work with a screen protector. It almost sticks to the screen. I tried it on Bonnies galaxy tab 2 without a screen protector and it glides better but worries me about the edge of the disk digging in. So I put it back in package and got a email. Its going back to amazon in the morning.
I will try the other mentioned above.soon android will have active stylus support and manufacturing will start making something worthy for us.
I had a note 10.1 stylus was good. But not as great as my intuous 4 wacom. Its also not quite completable with many higher end apps.
So conclusion is there is no real solutions YET BOOHOOO

I read a review that gosmart was fine with a screen protector...ill let you know when I get mine.
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I have a generic matte screen protector on mine and that may be why the Gosmart feels better. Less drag due to lower surface area without the solid plastic disc

Try the "amPen Hybrid Stylus" off of amazon. Just got mine and it works wonderfully. Its pretty economical too.

Question guys, has anybody tried a Galaxy Note S Pen?

Nospin said:
Question guys, has anybody tried a Galaxy Note S Pen?
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Will not work. The Galaxy Note has an Active Digitiser and the S Pen is an active pen. Same goes for the Thinkpad Tablet.

Any compatible pens for this phone?

I wanna be able to draw better in draw something or just for taking notes. What's a good pen with a small point that will register?
Just realized I put it in wrong subforum.. My bad
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http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...capacitive+stylus&sprefix=capacitive+,aps,430
These are some. Look for Capacitive Stylus.

No such thing. The only thing close to a decent stylus is the dagi pen. Yes, its much more expensive, but the normal rubber tipped ones are useless. The Dagi can actually be useful for handwriting and drawing. Trust me, please, I've used them all. The only truly good stylus is the S Pen on the Galaxy Note Tablet and Phones, but it only works on those devices. That's it. Get the Dagi or waste your money on cheap ones, your choice.
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Bamboo Stylus Feel... anyone tried it yet?

I've been waiting for reviews for this pen for a while. I don't see any third parties selling it yet either... I found one review, but it was in Japanese (which I can read) and wasn't very helpful in terms of the purpose I would be using it for. Particularly, the artwork...
I'm curious, is it really any different than the s-pen or is it just about the form factor?

SayaX said:
I've been waiting for reviews for this pen for a while. I don't see any third parties selling it yet either... I found one review, but it was in Japanese (which I can read) and wasn't very helpful in terms of the purpose I would be using it for. Particularly, the artwork...
I'm curious, is it really any different than the s-pen or is it just about the form factor?
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I'm curious about it too. I currently have a Samsung ET-S200EBEGSTD S-Pen with eraser which works and feels great. Will the Bamboo Stylus Feel actually feel better than the Samsung branded S-Pens? I'll wait for those reviews as well.

Looking thru and it does looks good. Any tried?

seeto84 said:
Looking thru and it does looks good. Any tried?
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I confirmed with Wacom, it has no eraser. Made me lose all interest.

I ordered 2 on the 7th. I got them yesterday. My wife is an artist and the Samsung stylus was to thin. She really likes the feel of it. Its really light though, and it feels like rough ceramic. I cant say that it writes better than the stock one. But it is easier to use. All they had was the white version that day. I do wonder if the $80 black carbon fiber pen would have been better. It has double the weight.
I need to use it a bit more before I can review it. Mainly because I put an anti-reflective screen protector on my tablet the day before.

Best Buy now has Bamboo Stylus
Titles says it all!

Ok, I was using it this morning after doing the OTA update. I didnt like it at all. I thought it might have been this matte screen protector. Just to double check, I grabbed my wifes Bamboo stylus and used it. It worked great! Mine was slow and didnt work half the time, but hers works better than the Samsung stylus. Now I have to figure out how to return mine. Its defective.
Using my wifes, there is something I didnt like about it. The button sits flush with the body and it feels the same. So its hard to find. I use it a lot because I have it set to erase.

wd4oay said:
Titles says it all!
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Link? I looked and couldn't find it... I found several Bamboo Stylus, but none for the Note 10.1. I do like the look of the carbon stylus on the Wacom Website.

This is where I got mine. Directly from the Wacom store.
https://www.wacom.com/store/bamboo-stylus-feel

Thanks for the link. I just ordered one. (White). I was gonna get the samsung based version, but this thickness might be perfect for. I hate how expensive they are. I wish they were half this price and then i could buy multiple pens.

kousakasan said:
Ok, I was using it this morning after doing the OTA update. I didnt like it at all. I thought it might have been this matte screen protector. Just to double check, I grabbed my wifes Bamboo stylus and used it. It worked great! Mine was slow and didnt work half the time, but hers works better than the Samsung stylus. Now I have to figure out how to return mine. Its defective.
Using my wifes, there is something I didnt like about it. The button sits flush with the body and it feels the same. So its hard to find. I use it a lot because I have it set to erase.
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Is setting the button to erase only for the Wacom stylus or can the stock s-pen do it as well? Care to share how? Thanks
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Just to share, any Wacom Penabled (Tablet PC) stylus will work with the Note series. I have three from my Tablet PC days and they all work with my Note 10.1 and Note II. Search in Google or Amazon and you can find a large range of styles and prices.
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The app you use has to have the option. The app I use most is Lecture Notes.
[Settings/handling/one time eraser] sets it to erase once after each time the button is pressed. Very handy.
I have noticed that the built in apps like SNote and Kno lack a useful setting menu. It would be nice if they gave us more options.

newst said:
Just to share, any Wacom Penabled (Tablet PC) stylus will work with the Note series. I have three from my Tablet PC days and they all work with my Note 10.1 and Note II. Search in Google or Amazon and you can find a large range of styles and prices.
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Work? Yes. Work well? Maybe. I have one from a slate, and it's about 1/4" off when writing. Too annoying to be useful. I'm not saying yours don't work well, I'm saying that not all penabled stylus will work well.

I have a bamboo create tablet and the pen for that thing does not work on either my Samsung 7 Series or my Note 10.1. The S7S pen do work on the Note 10.1 and visa versa tho. The eraser work as well; haven't tried the eraser on Sketchbook Pro tho.