Database Users

[Off Topic Lounge] A place for all things random [KEEP IT CLEAN]

Thanks toast for trusting us with an off topic sticky
Let's keep it clean, respectful, and fun..
I'll be updating this OP more but want to thank toast for the sticky.
For now, just fyi:
Off Topic IS NOT:
/b/
License to be mean to stupid people
License to be mean to smart people
Exempt from any if the FORUM RULES
Off-Topic IS:
Still part of the community
Subject to the FORUM RULES, just as any other thread in XDA
Fun
A thread to post whatever you want so long as it doesn't make anyone cry

+1
At least this way we would have a place to shoot the breeze and not clutter the "General" forum. By the way...what is up with the "2.2 update" thread? [email protected] thing is going to hit almost 60 pages

redrazr7791 said:
+1
At least this way we would have a place to shoot the breeze and not clutter the "General" forum. By the way...what is up with the "2.2 update" thread? [email protected] thing is going to hit almost 60 pages
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
toast has merged all the 2.2 threads, I saw it jump from a few K views to over 40K in just a few hours earlier and was like
the off topic lounge was a lot of fun and definitely a good place to shoot some crap and share some humor, and it did help keep the rest of the place a little closer to on-topic

XDA already has an Off Topic forum. Why does the HTC Evo need its own Off Topic forum or thread? Do Evo owners have such a bond that you can't talk to people who own different devices?
Better yet, go somewhere that is dedicated to Off Topic like SA. Personally, I read and post at ATOT quite a bit.

I agree with the "off-topic" thread....it would be nice to have a place free of moral police and wrong place police.

Minjin said:
XDA already has an Off Topic forum. Why does the HTC Evo need its own Off Topic forum or thread? Do Evo owners have such a bond that you can't talk to people who own different devices?
Better yet, go somewhere that is dedicated to Off Topic like SA. Personally, I read and post at ATOT quite a bit.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
may be coz we hang around the Evo forum 90% of the time..

Minjin said:
XDA already has an Off Topic forum. Why does the HTC Evo need its own Off Topic forum or thread? Do Evo owners have such a bond that you can't talk to people who own different devices?
Better yet, go somewhere that is dedicated to Off Topic like SA. Personally, I read and post at ATOT quite a bit.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What's the down side to having ONE thread for off topic chatter?
It was a lot of fun in the Hero section, it was fun to shoot the crap with the same group of folks that we spent so much time hacking with.
The XDA off topic section is cool and there's some good dudes in there but it's also inundated.
Maybe bonds like there were in the Hero section haven't formed here yet, would it be a problem if they did?
Obviously I think an off topic thread is a good idea, but I can't think of any reasons why it would be a bad idea... if you don't like it don't go in it..

vedavin said:
may be coz we hang around the Evo forum 90% of the time..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you seen the topics they bring up over in that sub-forum? I mean, we are already in the EVO forum...let's just keep the talk here. No need to go jumping around just to shoot the sh-t

redrazr7791 said:
Have you seen the topics they bring up over in that sub-forum? I mean, we are already in the EVO forum...let's just keep the talk here. No need to go jumping around just to shoot the sh-t
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed. Now to reserve me some tags..
Oh, and i agree with the op. What lifelong memories could we be missing if we don't don't have somewhere to build trusty bonds and loving relationships? If you love baby seals and life in general, you would approve for an off topic thread.

This is where I keep my e-Memories..
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I cherish them...

Hmm...lets see. If we had an Off-Topic lounge, then posting pictures like this -​
would be an acceptable response to one of THOSE questions or threads.​

redrazr7791 said:
Hmm...lets see. If we had an Off-Topic lounge, then posting pictures like this -
would be an acceptable response to one of THOSE questions or threads.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
imo, not if its directed at a specific forum member...
Off Topic IS NOT:
/b/
License to be mean to stupid people
License to be mean to smart people
Exempt from any if the FORUM RULES
Off-Topic IS:
Still part of the community
Subject to the FORUM RULES, just as any other thread in XDA
Fun
A thread to post whatever you want so long as it doesn't make anyone cry
RE: "Those" posts, Captain Picard is very disappointed in those people

+1 for OT forum, gotta have somewhere to post things that are offtopic without having to mingle with all those 'non evo users' *distain*

mrono said:
+1 for OT forum, gotta have somewhere to post things that are offtopic without having to mingle with all those 'non evo users' *distain*
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1. They're so unclean! Please don't make us have to "get along" with them.

mrono said:
+1 for OT forum, gotta have somewhere to post things that are offtopic without having to mingle with all those 'non evo users' *distain*
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol
just to be clear the request isn't for an EVO Off-Topic forum, just a single sticky at the top of the EVO General section

Ok, well, to start things out, I have a love hate relationship with mexican food. I mean, I love it and all, but for some reason I really hate the cilantro they throw on everything....makes me so sad

nebenezer said:
imo, not if its directed at a specific forum member...
Off Topic IS NOT:
/b/
License to be mean to stupid people
License to be mean to smart people
Exempt from any if the FORUM RULES
Off-Topic IS:
Still part of the community
Subject to the FORUM RULES, just as any other thread in XDA
Fun
A thread to post whatever you want so long as it doesn't make anyone cry
RE: "Those" posts, Captain Picard is very disappointed in those people
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh yea I understand completely
1 -I was typing out my response after staying up all night, working on a research paper and
2 -Two because I like the show "House"
Their still needs to be moderation in what is said, but threads like "I use my EVO's kickstand for..." and "Check out this crazy video I made with my EVO" are allowed.

+1 for the OT thread. It would be nice to have a thread to shoot the s#@t with everyone and not see any posts saying "wrong forum" Good idea neb.
Sent from my EVO using xda App

stickied.
thread is stickied. OP update your first post and set the subject. anyhow enjoy and everyone keep it clean.

toastcfh said:
thread is stickied. OP update your first post and set the subject. anyhow enjoy and everyone keep it clean.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
cool
Thanks toast

why do mods keep trashing this forum section?

rather than trashing this forum section whenever you feel the need to come around, why don't you just name it the Nexus One General Info and Questions Forum Section. It's quite retarded that you keep coming in here in disturbing us users by moving every thread in the forum section. It's also quite unprofessional.
I think it's obvious by now folks want to be able to post questions in this forum section...regardless of mods and admins obsessive compulsive need to make us post question only in a certain place.

Agreed, just merge the two sections, I was thinking about posting the same thing.
One of my threads asking people to post pictures taken with the stock camera vs the desire camera got moved to Q and A, and it's still not moved back. How is that a question? It's silly.
Just make it a genera/q and a forum!

What are the odds of your question getting moved?
I agree, there's two whole pages of moved threads with about 3-4 posts mixed in with them. When I see that I think "oh well, I won't be reading that section today."

Definitely looks retarded now.

lol'd at all the moved topics. failmods are fail.

Well if people learned how to read they wouldn't have to mass move topics.

Old MuckenMire said:
rather than trashing this forum section whenever you feel the need to come around, why don't you just name it the Nexus One General Info and Questions Forum Section. It's quite retarded that you keep coming in here in disturbing us users by moving every thread in the forum section. It's also quite unprofessional.
I think it's obvious by now folks want to be able to post questions in this forum section...regardless of mods and admins obsessive compulsive need to make us post question only in a certain place.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why do idiots keep posting questions in the wrong section?

khaytsus said:
Why do idiots keep posting questions in the wrong section?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is awesome. lol

This one should be moved to Outer Space

They should be merged! Never seen the first page of a forum section with so many moved threads in my life. Its obvious that by general public demand that this section is where questions are posted.
This is just crazy! LOL
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

OP, I would +rep you if this forum supported it. Instead, I can only salute you.
You should probably make a post in the forums the mods/admins actually regularly READ making this suggestion, and reference this post.

Ahahaha
I remember when the Q&A section was created. I remember saying how bad of a idea that was and how it would never get followed, especially for newcomers.

It dose look pretty stupid, not to mention some of the stuff moved to Q&A clearly doesn't bleong in Q&A.

Aren't most things going to be questions? The only other kind of things would be statements or essentially news "I fixed this", "I got usb host working". Maybe they want a News forum and should call it "News".

I agree this level of moderation is not helpful, and I have complained about it in the past. That said there is a sticky on the Nexus One General forum for what is acceptable here. It is not really the Mods fault that so many people ignore it. I am more a "will of the people" kind of guy and would not move them, but the mods here feel differently.

Redudant sectiong not being dealt with on a developers forums is deliciously ironic.

Since this is the first page of the forum. Why not make it Q&A and the other one Comments/Opinions or what ever. Agree with one poster, you would expect to aks questions on the main forum page. Don't know why it was changed. Maybe a good reason? After the first forum page anywhere, you can then go to specific topics. That makes more sense to me.

Totally agree with OP.
It is absolutely retarded.
It would make sense though to have a separate forum where "answered" questions and guides get moved to - THAT would make sense.

What makes sense is for people to follow the rules in the first place. If you did, we would not have to move so many threads. The pointers you see are called expiring redirects, and they disappear 24 hours after the move. We have the option to move without redirect, but that tends to force people to just post their question again when they don't see the original thread was moved.
Here are a few more things I find interesting:
The people complaining about over-moderation are relatively new to XDA-Developers. I understand that XDA-Developers has seen an influx of members since adding Android (and non-HTC) devices within the last 12-24 months. However, that does not excuse members not following the already established rules. The rule(s) regarding posting in the proper place are not new, and whether you read them or not, you agreed to them when registering. In short, deal with it, or goodbye. You will not be missed.
When XDA-Developers created the original Q&A forum over a year ago, it was received warmly by 99.9% of members. In fact, the Q&A section was so popular, that members began to request Q&A sub-forums specific to each device, thereby keeping the General Q&A generic enough to apply to most/all devices. By default, a Q&A section is not created for a new device until the need arises.
In closing, please keep in mind the following. When people take the time to read before posting, they will either find their question has already been answered, or they will see that the Q&A sections are flame-free sections for posting questions.

NotATreoFan said:
The people complaining about over-moderation are relatively new to XDA-Developers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Let's not over generalize please.
NotATreoFan said:
When XDA-Developers created the original Q&A forum over a year ago, it was received warmly by 99.9% of members. In fact, the Q&A section was so popular, that members began to request Q&A sub-forums specific to each device, thereby keeping the General Q&A generic enough to apply to most/all devices. By default, a Q&A section is not created for a new device until the need arises.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And I was one of the ones praising the creation. It does not mean it is proving effective.

Sim unlocking Xperia X10i

Hi guys i was looking all over and couldnt find anything.could someone suggest me any good websites where can i unlock my phone????
I already tried mobileincanada and cellunlocker.net with no luck
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

dexter26 said:
Hi guys i was looking all over and couldnt find anything.could someone suggest me any good websites where can i unlock my phone????
I already tried mobileincanada and cellunlocker.net with no luck
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Go here and contact Lancez

dexter26 said:
Hi guys i was looking all over and couldnt find anything.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Which translates as - "can't be arsed searching so thought I'd start another thread".

not funny smartass

dexter26 said:
not funny smartass
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i would have done a search before starting a new thread.

dexter26 said:
not funny smartass
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well it is when there's a 5 starred 56 page thread at the top of Q&A titled [Q] Sony XPERIA x10 Unlocking ?
Lancez said:
i would have done a search before starting a new thread.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As stated in the thread at the top of this section titled Stop!!!before you post - read this now!!!
-PiLoT- said:
Thinking of posting a new thread???
Use the search button on the top bar between "New Posts" and "Quick Links"
Threads posted in the wrong fora will be moved initially; however, for repeat offenders, the moderating team will look to take action to rectify the situation in a manner it believes is appropriate
WITHOUT FURTHER NOTICE.
It is the responsibility of all users to keep the fora organised and clean. We need you to do your bit to keep things orderly.
To the dedicated members that care to keep this forum, subforums included, clean and organized and grouped.
Please start reporting threads to the mods to take action. Please use the REPORT button to do so.
Thank You and happy easy searching.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Forum Searching | Posting | The Basics: (Make sure you've read them before starting a new thread)
Forum Rules - http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=642
Forum Search - http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php
Google Forum Search - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=304582
Advanced Searching - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=How%20to%20use%20Advanced%20Search%20on%20XDA-Developers%20Forum
XDA "Mantra" - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
Post What Where:
General - general technical discussion items, news, anything else that does not fit into the other fora categories.
Q&A (Questions and Answers) - all questions, irrespective of type, get posted in here whether they be theme related, accessory related, technical, etc.
Accessories - any items to do with components and/or accessories relating to your device.
Rom Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here.
Themes & Apps - anything to do directly with the development of themes and/or applications. Nothing else goes in here.
MOD EDIT: BEFORE POSTING ANY THREAD IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION, PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING:
If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

I was looking but didnt find the right answer.anyway thank for help.i think lancers unlicking for 40 dolars is too much.i will try contact my operator
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

dexter26 said:
I was looking but didnt find the right answer.anyway thank for help.i think lancers unlicking for 40 dolars is too much.i will try contact my operator
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, you should have done that before posting on here asking for help about a topic already discussed numerous times. Good luck!

dexter26 said:
I was looking but didnt find the right answer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you haven't found suggestions in the now 57 page thread, then you clearly haven't looked.

[REF][Sticky][Must See][First Time XDA][Pentile][Hard Input Device][Oral Commands]

Introduction:
Yeah I know, if you've read this in the Development subforum, it looks familiar...but if it looks familiar, maybe it does because you read it...point for me. As the thread title implies, the purpose of this thread is to create a more comprehensive guide for newcomers and old friends alike. I'm sure everyone is getting sick of flaming noobs and being flamed, but more importantly, I am sick of the huge waste of time we all spend re-answering questions, or just plain looking up threads to point someone in the right direction. I certainly know I could be using my time in a better way. Before posting in the forum you MUST complete the required XDA101 courseware. I will try to keep things light hearted, while still preparing you for the jungle out there. I am adding more elective courses in the future...guiding you through your pubescent journey from total noob to full fledged productive member of the human race. If you only have 5 minutes before your wife beats you over the head for working 8 hours at a computer, then coming home and sitting at the computer, you can skim and just read the bold text.
XDA101:
Lesson 1: What is XDA?:
As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community. Now what does that mean? Well first off it means that there is an expectation that if you are here then you want to a) customize your device and b) rather than just installing something that someone packaged you want to understand how it works and maybe even enhance it yourself. XDA was created long before the prevalence of mass market smartphones and as such many of the members are developers and have been here since back in the days when PDA phones were not embraced by the general public because of the expense and complexity. Now we have a flood of new users who are asking not "How can I do this myself" but more like "Give me the quick fix" without caring to understand the process. See if you read the threads then you get to experience the learning process, you see how the issues were investigated and confirmed. Then you get to watch the different attempts at resolution and learn why some failed while others worked. That is called Development.
The noob backlash is coming from users who have walked in the development shoes and is directed mainly at those who don't care for the journey but just want the end result or destination. As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong. Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most. XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him. Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again. There are many friendly developer here that spend a considerable amount of time and energy doling out their knowledge and skills for the betterment of the community...for free at that! Technical consultants regularly charge $100-$200/h for the kind of expert support provided in these forums. If you had to spend $20 (12 minutes of support time) every time you posted to this forum, I guarantee there would be a lot less repeat questions and useless threads. You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time, then I think it is only fair that you understand our position.
Lesson 2: Rules and Regulations:
Before posting you must know and abide by the Rules. Failure to do so could result in a temporary/permanent ban...or in rare occasions castration. Following these rules will create a much happier forum and build strong bones...
#1: Search before posting:
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news. Any member who posts an unnecessary thread, or threads which have already been posted before will be warned, and his/her thread will be closed immediately. Repeated offenders will be castrated. If a neutered member commits a third offense, they will likely be shunned.​
#2: Member conduct:
Language: XDA is a worldwide community. As a result what is ‘ok’ to say in your part of the world may not be ok in someone else’s part of the world. Please think about who is reading what you write. Keep in mind that what you think of as acceptable use of language may not be acceptable to others. Conversely, while reading member posts, remember that word you find offensive may not be to the writer. Tolerance is a two way street.
No Nudity: XDA is used by people of all ages, including minors. It's not acceptable to post nude/pornographic imagery, which includes exposure of the male or female genitalia or of female breasts.
No Flaming: XDA was founded as a group of people sharing information about certain mobile phones. Sharing does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) it does involve working together to solve problems in an environment of mutual respect and understanding. Losing your temper and flaming another member, or group of members, is not acceptable behavior. Flaming while nude is even worse.
No Personal attacks, racial, political and/or religious discussions: XDA is a discussion forum about certain mobile phones. Mobile phones are not racial, political, religious or personally offensive, therefore none of these types of discussions are permitted on XDA.​
#3: Do not post warez:
If a piece of software requires you to pay to use it, either pay or find your cracks and serials somewhere else. We do not accept warez nor do we permit any member to promote or describe ways in which Warez, cracks, serial codes or other means of avoiding payment, can be obtained.​
#4: Do not spam:
If you wish to advertise a product, contact us we provide ads. But do not post it in the forums, it will be removed and you're likely to receive a ban. You are however allowed to sell used goods like your own device, parts of your device or accessories for your device in the marketplace forum, please read the rules there before posting. (This rule includes signatures, if you use a signature it will appear in your post.)​
Lesson 3: Searching?
So you've made it to lesson 3. You've spent 10 minutes reading this, and you are still waiting for the interracial midget porn link Bing promised. You have two choices...you can either go back to Google or use XDA's in-forum search.
1) Use XDA's internal search: http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php
Or click here...
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
You can even search just in a particular thread...
2) Use google to find your answers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=304582​
EPIC101:
...Gathering course material.
EPIC201:
...Gathering course material.

Changelog:
20110108: Added Post and three lessons

starting to look like a triple post...it's so vivid.

Nice text art, creative descriptors.

Updated "Lesson 3: Searching"

[REF] Mod Connect - G2/DZ Forum Suggestions

{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
In an effort to make the G2/DesireZ Forum easier to navigate, please leave all suggestions for improvement here. I will make every effort to reply as promptly as possible.
Thank you for your help in keeping the forums clean ​

well i would like to begin with 2 suggestions....
1. all posts with visionary as rooting method should be flagged as outdated and a recommendation put up to use rage and gfree as the recommended rooting methods. there is a sticky post on desire Q & A section with a video how to root with visionary which should be removed from sticky section.
2.The Wiki section should be more accessible and more upfront and be visible in all the sub forum sections. just like announcements are visible on every sub forum. as the wiki section has the most up to date information about rooting and currently recommended methods of rooting and returning back to stock.

Perhaps several sub-forums should be created within Android Development dedicated to supporting the more popular ROM releases (Cyanogen, Virtuous etc) as the General forum is filling up with issues and problems relating to non stock software.
This will both improve experience for both stock users, and those requiring help / support on non stock software.
Craig

maybe we could have separate sub sections for things specifically related to the desire z and the g2, such as radios, as its not yet clear whether we can flash desire z radios over g2 and vice versa.
cheers!

hispeedworm said:
well i would like to begin with 2 suggestions....
1. all posts with visionary as rooting method should be flagged as outdated and a recommendation put up to use rage and gfree as the recommended rooting methods. there is a sticky post on desire Q & A section with a video how to root with visionary which should be removed from sticky section.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
this times a bajillion.
I can't believe how many "help I've bricked my phone" threads are popping up due to visionary... needs to be addressed.

craiglay said:
Perhaps several sub-forums should be created within Android Development dedicated to supporting the more popular ROM releases (Cyanogen, Virtuous etc) as the General forum is filling up with issues and problems relating to non stock software.
This will both improve experience for both stock users, and those requiring help / support on non stock software.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1
and for the non-stock section, maybe a better way of segregating the threads based on what type of rom or kernal they represent, i.e. froyo/gb or sense/non-sense. the [TAGS] devs use are a step in the right direction, but don't really go far enough to keep the jumbled mess of "VISION_SENSE_WWEAUSTMOB_453.232.2.4 TURBO AWESOME EDITION" at bay.
p.s. <3 u guys/gals

yeah we need that

I am sorry but that would require a complete restructure and is unlikely to happen.

TheRomMistress said:
I am sorry but that would require a complete restructure and is unlikely to happen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Could we create the Sub forums without having to restructure? As in leave all current threads in place and stress that newly created threads are created in the correct sub-forums? I appreciate that your time devoted to the website is voluntary and much appreciated but if this could happen, it could make the experience better for everyone.
Thanks!
Craig

That would in essence create more chaos then needed. Look at the things stressed now...do you see less people posting in Dev? No, they still do because ppl do not RTFM!

Could you consider cleaning up the amount of stickies? I know that all of the information in there is important but dedicating 25% of the page to stickies seems a little ridiculous, especially if you've already seen them. I can see the 5 in the developement section easily being trimmed down to 2. The worst case I've seen of sticky overload has been the G1 dev section, it has 8 stickies lmao.

I went ahead and moved 1 stiky to the sticky page, but the others need to stay - they are there for a reason. You may have seen them a dozen times but XDA grows by thousands of members everyday, those are the persons I need to read these stickys.

So, having asked for suggestions, is anything being done?
For me, this forum is dreadful. I've been around XDA for years, it has been a source of hugely useful resources. Now though, on this (G2 and Desire Z) forum, and for example on the General sub-forum, 75% of the posts on the first page refer to issues around rooted phones. I'm not alone in having a totally stock Desire Z.
There really should be some order. Is it that difficult to instigate some clear rules? If we can't have a "Stock Rom" subforum, can we not at least demand that all new posts start with something like [Stock], [Rooted] or similar?
In the past I've donated money towards the upkeep of the site. I'm writing now because my visits have become so infrequent, such is the level of disorder.

Thank you for your feedback. If I am to understand you correctly, you are frustrated because most of the post have to do with a rooted phone and you have stock? Have you ever thought that the reason for this is most of the users here have rooted their device? I am sorry but that is not something I can control. As a moderator on XDA and a multi-device owner, I am well aware of the state of forums across the board and the G2/Dz is not the only forum with rooted and non-rooted users. As of now, there is no plan on creating a special sub-section for non-rooted & rooted phones. Your best bet is to search.
As for requiring tags to sepperate the two, I have enough difficulties getting Devs to tag their work properly, just imagine how much more so it would be to demand every user do it. This would require every user to read stickes and forum rules and abide by them. Lets face it, if every user did that, XDA would be heaven.
Your donation of moneys towards XDA does not really come into play here, as a donation is given by your own free will and does not entitle you to anything extra.
XDA Admins and Moderators are working hard right now to fix some of these issues that have made our members shy away. If you pay attention to the Site Announcements, there is often news about the progress. Expect a lot of change very soon. When things are implemented however, it will be site wide, not forum specific. Keep an eye out if interested.

Well, you asked for suggestions. If you don't think the suggestion I made is worthy of action, fine.
You suggest that my "donation of moneys towards XDA does not really come into play here, as a donation is given by your own free will and does not entitle you to anything extra." The point of mentioning my donating towards the site does "come into play" in pointing out that where once I was a regular visitor, I am now less so. That is a direct result if the chaotic nature of this forum. In no way am I expecting "anything extra" and it is offensive that you suggest I am.
I don't actually want a sub-forum for rooted and non-rooted phones. I'd like posts to be made in the right place. Even today on the "General" subforum, two of the top three threads are:
"Cyangenmod 7.1.0 and higher nightlies are slow"
"Recovery error information thread (E:Cant mount /cache/recovery/command)"
The first sticky of the sub-forum "G2 and Desire Z Android Development" is the thread "Development Q&A - Ask Development Questions Here!". Assuming the aforementioned two threads don't fit into that sticky, why aren't they in the main part of the "Android development" subforum?
I eagerly await the site-wide changes.

Have a "I Agree" button
I see a lot of +1 or posts where the user agrees. It would be nice to have a 'I Agree' button and have is displayed somewhere. It might cut down on some duplicated posts.

rb14 said:
Well, you asked for suggestions. If you don't think the suggestion I made is worthy of action, fine.
You suggest that my "donation of moneys towards XDA does not really come into play here, as a donation is given by your own free will and does not entitle you to anything extra." The point of mentioning my donating towards the site does "come into play" in pointing out that where once I was a regular visitor, I am now less so. That is a direct result if the chaotic nature of this forum. In no way am I expecting "anything extra" and it is offensive that you suggest I am.
I don't actually want a sub-forum for rooted and non-rooted phones. I'd like posts to be made in the right place. Even today on the "General" subforum, two of the top three threads are:
"Cyangenmod 7.1.0 and higher nightlies are slow"
"Recovery error information thread (E:Cant mount /cache/recovery/command)"
The first sticky of the sub-forum "G2 and Desire Z Android Development" is the thread "Development Q&A - Ask Development Questions Here!". Assuming the aforementioned two threads don't fit into that sticky, why aren't they in the main part of the "Android development" subforum?
I eagerly await the site-wide changes.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We all want things to be posted correctly, unfortunately it almost never happens that way. This is why we have the report post feature; to help mods move things to where they belong, as we can not catch everything. You can not make a user post correctly as much as you can not make them tie their shoes correctly.
The "G2 and Desire Z Android Development" was put in place to avoid having tons of questions in the ROM threads themselves. It does not necessarily mean they cant post in Q&A, after all, that's why it is there.
The problems you mention, again, are site wide, not forum specific. This thread is more for suggestions on stikies, organization and the like. The issues you mention are being addressed site wide as I said before, and can not be handled by just me. If you are up for a good read, check out the latest site announcement. This is our attempt at "making" people post correctly.
bradley_e_smith said:
I see a lot of +1 or posts where the user agrees. It would be nice to have a 'I Agree' button and have is displayed somewhere. It might cut down on some duplicated posts.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1199805 see post #2