Is 2GB Ram enough? - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello guys,
I have been using Note 1, S3, Note 2 - with the ICS on Note 1 I felt that the system went a bit laggy (using Custom ROMs solve the issue so far); I felt that 1GB Ram on S3 was not enough as the system by default already use ~600-700Mb or so, manageable. With 2GB on the Note 2 I felt that it was pretty enough, under heavy loading it took like ~1.4-1.5 GB Ram, sometimes the system micro lag a bit - no major problems tho.
We all know that Samsung loves to throw all kind of features, their apps etc into the device; the TouchWiz is cool but I believe it's optimized.
Keeping all this in mind , with the new apps/features in the S4 (SS Health, Air stuffs etc etc) I wonder if 2GB is enough? Also that the new Android OS the 5.x version should be around the corners - although the sources confirm that even S3 (with its 1GB Ram) will have the Key Lime Pie 5.x but I believe it would be not smooth and breezing fly - just like the case of Note 1 with ICS.
With the rumors saying Note 3 will going to have 3GB of Ram this really confuses me. I'm in decision b/w S4 and Note 3 - I was really happy with the Note 2 (gave to my daddy) but it's a little bit big; the S3 was okay but the 1GB was shortage.

Yup, it's plenty, no need to worry about that. Laggyness is an inherent problem with touchwiz since the first GS, was also a problem with my GS2 and a friend has mentioned it's been an issue on the S3. I expect the S4's UI to be lag free but wouldn't be surprised if there are some hiccups. Lag can be due to keeping the voice feature on, or lack of optimization. Either way, gaming and other tasks wont suffer, so don't worry.

-]Megacharge[- said:
Yup, it's plenty, no need to worry about that. Laggyness is an inherent problem with touchwiz since the first GS, was also a problem with my GS2 and a friend has mentioned it's been an issue on the S3. I expect the S4's UI to be lag free but wouldn't be surprised if there are some hiccups. Lag can be due to keeping the voice feature on, or lack of optimization. Either way, gaming and other tasks wont suffer, so don't worry.
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Thank you very much,
I have tried HTC , Sony and the Nexus line with weaker specs but the system seems to be optimized way more (esp. the pure Android Nexus line).
I will be super happy if in the S4 they solve the wake-home-button-lag due to the CPU (Exynos 4) specific; that is so irritating
In any case I'm going to root the device as I always do =))

Well I used s3 for 4 months and sold it just bcz of the lag issues you have mentioned. In s3 I used to freeze or remove every bloat app so I can get free ram, it sill disnt solve the issue. I got note 2 and all the lag issues gone, I wonder how you even faced micro lag, I never faced any. Now my ram is full of bloat, I still get only 200-250mb free ram but I never faced any lag.
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err, i think you guys have a common misconception. Free RAM = wasted RAM. on Linux, it is better for the ram to be full rather than to make it not fill up at all. Lags are always due to background apps continuously running.
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really the more ram that caches apps and games the better, quicker and uses less battery.. so even if a phone has 10gb ram it should use as much as possible as android manage the memory very good on its own.

Yup
Seems every manufacturer wants to sell a new device every year, so... they put less than is possible on their top of the line devices to assure that next year the hw would be too old and stupid sheeps (us) would feel the need to update.
I have a 5 year laptop (in which Ive put just more rams) which does it's job extremely well. But smartphones needs to be upgraded every year.
No manufacturer wants customizable hardware so that the end user could build himself a smartphone that would last ~4 years.
For example if the SGS3 had 2 gbs RAM it wouldn't need upgrading, and if the S4 had 3 or more gbs RAM wouldnt need an upgrade next year.
Regarding that rumor that Motorola would allow us to build a phone to our specification is simply dumb. Android can't support so many configurations, and certaintly that manufacturer would destroy the market by simply stopping the need for hw upgrading every year (similar to pc market)
So... 2 gb is not enough..
Nothing is enough in this market.
If you want all the goodies Android and various apps will bring in the future you will certaintly need to upgrade your S4 next year.

I've done a decent amount of research and it seems like 3GB of RAM would be unnecessary but there's rumors out there pointing at a possible 3GB of RAM but it seems like the 2GB is pretty set in stone. Anything can happen. But, in my opinion, 2GB is enough for the phone... just not my personal peace-of-mind.

Delakit said:
I've done a decent amount of research and it seems like 3GB of RAM would be unnecessary but there's rumors out there pointing at a possible 3GB of RAM but it seems like the 2GB is pretty set in stone. Anything can happen. But, in my opinion, 2GB is enough for the phone... just not my personal peace-of-mind.
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To be honest I'm all for the S4, better screen, better camera... - hell yeah!
But here in my place , I have info about Note 3 will be having 3Gb ram - basically, Note is a larger Galaxy S with bigger screen, clocked CPU/GPU and have some S-pen features; and having an additional 1GB of RAM:
Note 2 > S3 for 1GB Ram
Note 3 > S4 expected for 1GB Ram again
Note 1 = S2 with 1GB Ram but with ICS Official Loaded I'm sure that S2 runs faster and smoother than Note 1.

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-]Megacharge[- said:
Yup, it's plenty, no need to worry about that. Laggyness is an inherent problem with touchwiz since the first GS, was also a problem with my GS2 and a friend has mentioned it's been an issue on the S3. I expect the S4's UI to be lag free but wouldn't be surprised if there are some hiccups. Lag can be due to keeping the voice feature on, or lack of optimization. Either way, gaming and other tasks wont suffer, so don't worry.
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all android devices lag, every one ive owned has in some way.
and to the OP, yes 2gb is more than enough.

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Lol. Not a fan of General Discussion? At least you gave obvious reasoning to your assumption of an answer.

bungadudu said:
Yup
Seems every manufacturer wants to sell a new device every year, so... they put less than is possible on their top of the line devices to assure that next year the hw would be too old and stupid sheeps (us) would feel the need to update.
I have a 5 year laptop (in which Ive put just more rams) which does it's job extremely well. But smartphones needs to be upgraded every year.
No manufacturer wants customizable hardware so that the end user could build himself a smartphone that would last ~4 years.
For example if the SGS3 had 2 gbs RAM it wouldn't need upgrading, and if the S4 had 3 or more gbs RAM wouldnt need an upgrade next year.
Regarding that rumor that Motorola would allow us to build a phone to our specification is simply dumb. Android can't support so many configurations, and certaintly that manufacturer would destroy the market by simply stopping the need for hw upgrading every year (similar to pc market)
So... 2 gb is not enough..
Nothing is enough in this market.
If you want all the goodies Android and various apps will bring in the future you will certaintly need to upgrade your S4 next year.
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Sure they want to, for example the iphone allows to upgrade to OS 6 but with Iphone 3Gs (and even 4, 4s) it's absolutely laggy...
they create you the feeling that what the heck why it's so laggy and buggy => need to upgrade asap
s4 with 3GB would be such a peace of chocopie

hieupham said:
s4 with 3GB would be such a peace of chocopie
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Of course, but if that who would buy the S5 next year?
(There is no app/game who can get the S3 to sweat, the only notable and needed difference between the S4 and S3 being more ram and bigger battery. Does that worth $400-500?)

Want more than 2GB of RAM? #Dealwithit
Just had to do it.

No one will make dual channel 3gb ram.
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it's more than my PC

jerhum stengay said:
it's more than my PC
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It's more than the PC I had 4 years ago. with only 1.5GB of RAM.

bungadudu said:
Yup
Seems every manufacturer wants to sell a new device every year, so... they put less than is possible on their top of the line devices to assure that next year the hw would be too old and stupid sheeps (us) would feel the need to update.
I have a 5 year laptop (in which Ive put just more rams) which does it's job extremely well. But smartphones needs to be upgraded every year.
No manufacturer wants customizable hardware so that the end user could build himself a smartphone that would last ~4 years.
For example if the SGS3 had 2 gbs RAM it wouldn't need upgrading, and if the S4 had 3 or more gbs RAM wouldnt need an upgrade next year.
Regarding that rumor that Motorola would allow us to build a phone to our specification is simply dumb. Android can't support so many configurations, and certaintly that manufacturer would destroy the market by simply stopping the need for hw upgrading every year (similar to pc market)
So... 2 gb is not enough..
Nothing is enough in this market.
If you want all the goodies Android and various apps will bring in the future you will certaintly need to upgrade your S4 next year.
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Actually American GS III does have 2gb ram... But anyway I honestly think 2gb of ram is plenty for anything we need on a phone for now at least. I guess it'll depend on how efficient the os/touchwiz runs. But i *think* iirc at least the gs iv ram is significantly better. But anyway if I can get a real upgrade and not a pay it off throughout two years kinda deal I'll probably pick up the S IV and sell my gs iii
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More ram, more MHz, more screen, more functional!
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Is it worth upgrading from s3 to a note 2

The Note 2 has 2 gigabytes of ram, compared to the 1gigabyte of s3, so its more future proof. The screen is also bigger and better.
Question is, is it worth it? Or is it too big for a phone?
Please don't ever say futureproof again because you can not simply 'futureproof' something
My SIII uses MAX 800mbs
The international version comes with 2GBs of RAM so maybe you could swap yours out for one of those
If you're looking for a bigger screen though then yes the Note is worth it
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lol @ futureproof
i keep the same phone for no more than 5-6 months. i just can't imagine sticking with the same for any longer than that. and here is my reasoning:
if you get a new phone and then sell it 5-6 months later (before the next iteration of the phone comes out) then you will sell it at 80% of the original price. however if you keep it for 12 months (and the new phone comes out) and you try to sell it you'll be able to get only 50% of what you paid for the phone. so I always change phones every 5-6 months. so thats how I stay up-to-date with the latest and greatest. so basically i'm 'renting' the phone for $100 for 6 months.. which is not bad at all. in fact that's actually CHEAPER if you think about it.
Umm both s3's that I've used on AT&T have 2 gigs of ram so I don't know who told you that information. If you have a s3 wait for jelly bean because it is essentially the same phone besides jelly bean features and the s-pen. Don't get my wrong, the note 2 is an amazing phone. I had the note 1 and now I'm on an international note 2. The battery life is the big selling point for me, but it is ALOT faster than the note 1 or the s3.
Honestly only you can answer that question.
The Note II has many useful features you have to decide if they are worth the price of admission. If I had an upgrade to use I wouldn't hesitate to pickup the note even if I has an S3. But as you have an S3, a relatively new device, I assume you would have to pay full AT&T price. If that's the case I'm not sure I would be willing to drop $650 for a new Note II if I already had an S3. But I'm on a very tight budget at the moment you may be in a different situation.
I have an upgrade and plan to use it to pick up a Galaxy Note II Friday.
From my perspective yes.
I changed and am very happy.
More ram, insane battery, faster, screen is better with polarized glasses.
Spen, multi view.
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So I just switched from the S3 to the N2.
My reason, the styles and bigger screen (my target resolution to avoid eyestrain when using RDP is 250dpi N2 is a better resolution than the S3)
As for hardware specks I was more than happy with the S3, All I want is a good battery and the ability to use the phone all-day: GPS, note taking, Recording minutes, Camera, editing photos, playing podcasts, and web browsing. (if I get a day's use out of it I'll be happy.)
The S3 battery did restrict my ability to use it to its full potential. I'll comment on the Note2 after I have used it for a month.
I don't know why people are saying the note 2 has more ram than the s3 because the s3 and note 2 both have 2 gigs of ram... Internal - 16 GB storage, 2 GB RAM
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_i747-4803.php
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I don't know why people are saying the note 2 has more ram than the s3 because the s3 and note 2 both have 2 gigs of ram... Internal - 16 GB storage, 2 GB RAM
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_i747-4803.php
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No. The international SIII only has one gig. Your site is the local LTE variant that has 2GB to make up for an inferior dual core processor.
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Yes, I have the international version of s3 with only 1 gig of ram.
when do you think the next S or note seriesv will come out? ?
alundra212 said:
Yes, I have the international version of s3 with only 1 gig of ram.
when do you think the next S or note seriesv will come out? ?
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i came from int S3 like yours & i'm not looking back
the battery is just awesome with all the screen estate
I don't think I'll ever be able to go back to a 1GB phone. Switching through apps works like it should on the Note 2. With that said, it still manages to fill it up rather quickly. Visit enough web pages and open enough apps, it offloads the app from the memory. I think 4GB will be perfect, for today. But probably 4GB won't be enough for 2 years from now when it is available. Such is life.
But I love 2GB ram on this phone. Along with the superb battery, big screen, S Pen (just the ability to write notes down as quickly as you can do with a pen and paper), and airview, I think it is a worth upgrade and the hassle of having to sell a used Galaxy, and taking a hit on some costs.
alundra212 said:
Yes, I have the international version of s3 with only 1 gig of ram.
when do you think the next S or note seriesv will come out? ?
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Rumblings from Samsung indicate the S4 will be released by March 2013. That's a short 10 months after the S3 release... I don't have the link right now, can find it if needed...
In my opinion the Note's screen is too big for a functional phone. I'm not a fan of the "inbetweener" sizes... Two small for a tablet, too big for a phone. However, it's all about preference and usage.
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GeckoD said:
Rumblings from Samsung indicate the S4 will be released by March 2013. That's a short 10 months after the S3 release... I don't have the link right now, can find it if needed...
In my opinion the Note's screen is too big for a functional phone. I'm not a fan of the "inbetweener" sizes... Two small for a tablet, too big for a phone. However, it's all about preference and usage.
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I come from the Galaxy S3 and was a little afraid for the big Note2.But now afther a few days i not like the S3 anymore and i'am very happy with the new note.
Coming from the s3, I am VERY happy with the choice of the upgrade. The screen is nicer to look at, colors are more vibrant. I personally like the screen size, just about perfect for me. I will most likely skip the S4, no way I want to go smaller now. I will hold my next upgrade for the Note 3...love it!
The Note 2 isn't THAT big. I thought it would be a lot larger. So little bezel and the width of the phone makes it very practical.
thankz for info.bro,,
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No. The international SIII only has one gig. Your site is the local LTE variant that has 2GB to make up for an inferior dual core processor.
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Umm... you are WRONG. This international SGS3 has QUAD CORE and 2GB ram WITH LTE.. http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9305_galaxy_s_iii-5001.php
I came from the s3 international lte version. No regrets! ! Big screen and big battery. .. and the s-pen is useful for me!
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Does a bigger screen intice you? Do you want more battery life? Do you like the s-pen and the functionality that comes along with it?
If the answer to the above questions is yes, then the upgrade is worth it for you. If not, then no. There are other differences of course between the two phones, but these three are the main ones.
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Is note 10.1 old now?

Hi,
I want to buy an android tablette and I found that the note 10.1 is good, but as it appeared almosr a year now, is it outdated? Should I wait for the next generation, and will be a next generation soon?
Thanks.
igos2 said:
Hi,
I want to buy an android tablette and I found that the note 10.1 is good, but as it appeared almosr a year now, is it outdated? Should I wait for the next generation, and will be a next generation soon?
Thanks.
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Own two of em for about 4 months and just bought 1 more. finest tablets of my collection. They hold there price and with 2 gigs of ram, pretty sweet device. I own several 10inch tabs and this is the best. Running stock no root and zero problems.
Quite outdated. Wait for the announcement in June. It is already June anyway
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I have 2 I like them. But if you need the best you will be chasing it forever. This thing is tried and true. Does all I need
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A reasonable assumption is that the next generation will be an incremental upgrade, faster processor, more pixels in camera and screen, question you need to answer is that something you NEED or is it something you WANT? I use mine for note taking, surfing and some posting on fora. So in my case those improvements won't really matter, my choke point is the connection to the net, hence the truth is that while I might want those improvements I don't really need them.
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I bought this one just a week back .I waited till google I/O to find if the announce a new Nexus 7 - as I wanted a rear camera.Then note 10.1 was the choice ,although more expensive than nexus 7 3G (I paid ~ $465 in Dubai), Its worth.It is with future proof spec .A full HD screen would have been a plus point , But most apps / videos are at HD level (720P) , So I don't see much difference.:good:
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A reasonable assumption is that the next generation will be an incremental upgrade, faster processor, more pixels in camera and screen, question you need to answer is that something you NEED or is it something you WANT? I use mine for note taking, surfing and some posting on fora. So in my case those improvements won't really matter, my choke point is the connection to the net, hence the truth is that while I might want those improvements I don't really need them.
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I doubt that anyone NEED a phone or a tablet to survive.
However I am looking forward to upgrades such as
- Higher resolution screen. Don't give a dam about retina or apple, but my note 2 has the same resolution as my note 10.1. and it just feels blurry on my tablet relatively. Inking with lecturenotes and ezpdfreader don't seem to have smooth edges.
- Can someone please explain why it takes an hour to transfer a 200MB video via bluetooth?
- Occasional choppiness and lag compare to note 2. A faster CPU should help.
- Out of RAM (Don't know why, but 2Gb isn't enough for me)
- Laughable camera
- I think having NFC will be cool, especially for simple stuff like bumping to transfer a photo. I like the Sony idea of pairing with portable speakers too.
- Further reduce weight? Prefer as light as possible as I commute with it every weekday. (well unlikely that Sammy cares)
- Better S Pen API and developer support. Most third party apps with digitizer are honestly disappointing .
- FIX S Note. Stop crashing. Stop sync erroring. Stop locking up half of my notes for no reason. Stop losing my notes. Stop zooming with the touch of my palm even though I selected pen input only. Stop changing to default background when I add a new page. Stop all sorts of irritating garbage that forced me to use lecture notes.
- Multitasking works now and is less buggy. But demanding applications do significantly slow down and become less responsive. like officesuite. Faster CPU should help
Find it fine, as was stated before you need to eventually bite the bullet and get something or you'll be chasing the bigger better tablet forever....
In this day and age 6 months is obsolete, if not faster, so waiting for a new thing to come out, then waiting so its not too expensive means that you will never get that tablet you want/need because there's always better on the horizon...
What's the saying, give them bread today and they're happy today but promise them cake tomorrow and they'll go for another day...
salmonsushi said:
I doubt that anyone NEED a phone or a tablet to survive.
However I am looking forward to upgrades such as
- Higher resolution screen. Don't give a dam about retina or apple, but my note 2 has the same resolution as my note 10.1. and it just feels blurry on my tablet relatively. Inking with lecturenotes and ezpdfreader don't seem to have smooth edges.
- Can someone please explain why it takes an hour to transfer a 200MB video via bluetooth?
- Occasional choppiness and lag compare to note 2. A faster CPU should help.
- Out of RAM (Don't know why, but 2Gb isn't enough for me)
- Laughable camera
- I think having NFC will be cool, especially for simple stuff like bumping to transfer a photo. I like the Sony idea of pairing with portable speakers too.
- Further reduce weight? Prefer as light as possible as I commute with it every weekday. (well unlikely that Sammy cares)
- Better S Pen API and developer support. Most third party apps with digitizer are honestly disappointing .
- FIX S Note. Stop crashing. Stop sync erroring. Stop locking up half of my notes for no reason. Stop losing my notes. Stop zooming with the touch of my palm even though I selected pen input only. Stop changing to default background when I add a new page. Stop all sorts of irritating garbage that forced me to use lecture notes.
- Multitasking works now and is less buggy. But demanding applications do significantly slow down and become less responsive. like officesuite. Faster CPU should help
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2GB isn't enough? What do you use your tablet for?
Thank you for the answers all.. I agree with you all, the pros and cons..
Let's talk about the price, the Note 10.1 3G I have found is about 500$, what do you think would be the price of a future Note is it's first weeks?
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Find it fine, as was stated before you need to eventually bite the bullet and get something or you'll be chasing the bigger better tablet forever....
In this day and age 6 months is obsolete, if not faster, so waiting for a new thing to come out, then waiting so its not too expensive means that you will never get that tablet you want/need because there's always better on the horizon...
What's the saying, give them bread today and they're happy today but promise them cake tomorrow and they'll go for another day...
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I see it as improvement every year, which is a good thing for the customer. Rumours suggest the successor of 10.1 will be announced in June. So chances are people are patient enough. Of course it is your right to buy it now and feel obsolete within a month. Usually I am happy to wait between 1-3 months. More than that I will just buy it now. No regrets and no hard feelings.
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2GB isn't enough? What do you use your tablet for?
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Widgets accumulate quite a lot. Live Wallpaper. Kaspersky is another ram hogger. Launch a few intensive apps and try multitasking, there goes my 2 gb ram. Why do you seem so surprise when one game on Google Play from Gameloft could be 3 Gb in total size and take proportionally significant RAM?
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igos2 said:
Thank you for the answers all.. I agree with you all, the pros and cons..
Let's talk about the price, the Note 10.1 3G I have found is about 500$, what do you think would be the price of a future Note is it's first weeks?
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I think that is the price point Sammy gona stick with. That is, sell the new 10.1 for 500 dollars (if that's the price for ur country) and bump the old note price down
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2GB isn't enough? What do you use your tablet for?
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haha, indeed. 2GB is more than enough. Sounds like that Note 10.1 has some problems, because I don't recall any lag nor crashing on my device. S note works very well and camera is also usable, much better than Note 8.0, which is weird.
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Forget $500 now, what was the price back in August last year? That's what the price will be for the new Note.... I paid $800 for a 32gb N8000... Was the best price around. I don't know what the price for it would be now as the ONLY versions left seem to be the 16gb N8000.. They're around the $500 mark but were $650 when 1st released....
Wifi only different prices again....
It is outdated but still a better tablet than many others on the market. The main thing is a low res screen but given that cpus at the time could not support 1080p properly , 720p screen was the right decision.
Another thing I find is that 16gb internal memory is not enough (and I believe there were no other options at the time of release)
Cant wait to upgrade though.
Following samsung 's pattern though, the 16gb will be released and the 32gb will be released about 1 - 2 months later... 64gb is a myth....
What these manufacturer's need to understand is that because of the extras they throw in, the OS is using more and more space. My SGS3 used up 5gb for the system os but the SGS4 is now using 7gb... I know its only 3gb more but when memory is an issue that is huge....
Who knows what will be introduced (not released) in June. If there is a tablet, everything I've hear says that it will be a Tab 3 10.1, basically with a slightly faster CPU than the Note 10.1 but with a slightly lesser camera and the same resolution. Hold me back. While I'm lukewarm about the resolution on the Note 10.1, and its camera pretty much sucks out loud (what Sammy tab cameras don't?), it's still a great tab and not at all "outdated."
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Who knows what will be introduced (not released) in June. If there is a tablet, everything I've hear says that it will be a Tab 3 10.1, basically with a slightly faster CPU than the Note 10.1 but with a slightly lesser camera and the same resolution. Hold me back. While I'm lukewarm about the resolution on the Note 10.1, and its camera pretty much sucks out loud (what Sammy tab cameras don't?), it's still a great tab and not at all "outdated."
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Yes why can't they put better cameras on tabs. Anyhow, I find Note 10.1 camera fairly usable in good light and for Skyping no problem. But in the new Note 8.0 is much worse...
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I bought the note 10.1 and a week later returned it. On a stock Rom and custom one I felt the performance to be sub par especially when compared to an iPad. Scrolling through apps was often choppy and I felt like for the premium cost it should be smoother plus a lot of the apps I used aren't optimized for tablets. So I'm waiting to see what's going to be released in June but in the meantime I'm seriously considering the Surface RT
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lol. there is nothing choppy on 4.1.2 . smooth as butter and nowhere behind ipad, surface or any other tablet. screen resolution is subpar but you have an active stylus.
best tablet ever for productivity !
maybe the new windwos tablets are going to be better since they support active pens and you can use onenote, mathlab and other important apps. however these windows tablets cost twice the amount of money in comparison to a note 10.1
Yeah dude I dunno, I'm a fan of Android for sure. I got a Note 2 and love it, and I thought I would love the 10.1 but compared to the experience I get on the phone and what I get on the iPad (3rd gen) the note 10.1 was choppy even with 4.1.2.
I even rooted it installed a rom and it still felt choppy even within native apps like the calendar. I choose it over other tablets because of the S-Pen but honestly as much as I think I would use it, I never do.
So now I think I would value the Microsoft office suite and a desktop class internet browser found in the surface over an android tablet, especially when android system updates rarely happen and most android apps are not optimized for larger screens.
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[Q] Upgrade N7000 to N9005 or not, that is the question...

Hey guys,
satisfied N7000 user here wondering if you would recommend to upgrade or not?
I could probably sell my N7000 for 200€ and N9005 would probably cost about 550 - 600€ without contract.
Thats about 3 times as much as the n7000 is worth right now - (if I'm lucky to find a buyer) and I got a bunch of add ons for my N7000 like an extra battery, couple of cases, screen protector, second spen (which I'm never using though) and carmount which probably would cost another 20 - 50€ to replace.
I mean I could afford it and would surely enjoy it, but actually I'm still kinda satisfied with my N7000 and hardly run into any problems. But I'm also not gaming much on the phone.
And then there is this BS with sim region locks, rom region locks (and if you dont flash the right one you have a softbrick?) and the KNOX fuse crap.
What pisses me off though with my N7000 is that there won't be any more official updates (maybe 4.2 or 4.3 - but I dont think so) and with Exynos chip tv out does not work on CM based roms.
Tough decision - actually after this exynos source problems I didn't want to buy samsung anymore - but now they offer the note 3 with snapdragon it got my attention yet again lol.. arghhhh I probably should buy a real tablet as addition I guess - or some newer Notebook/Ultrabook rather than to upgrade a perfectly fine phone right? (I don't even use the spen much, I just love the big screen of the notes and the possibilty to use the pen if I want to hehe - well actually it makes certain things easier and I use it for that off course - but I don't write much notes or smth..)
First world problems...
P.S.: Aww f*ck it would be stupid to upgrade if I'm satisfied with my N7000 still.. and the difference is not THAT great yet I'm sure. I'll maybe get the new Note Tablet instead, but they should finally make 12"+ tablets (with ubuntu for android too off course....if that ever gets released..)
zroice said:
satisfied N7000 user here wondering if you would recommend to upgrade or not?
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P.S.: Aww f*ck it would be stupid to upgrade if I'm satisfied with my N7000 still.. and the difference is not THAT great yet I'm sure. I'll maybe get the new Note Tablet instead, but they should finally make 12"+ tablets (with ubuntu for android too off course....if that ever gets released..)
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Like every decision we all make, it depends....
Major upgrades from N1 to N3 are
1. 1280 x 800 (~285 ppi) display to 1920 x 1080 (~386 ppi)
2. 2 GB RAM to 3 GB
3. Exynos Dual 1.4 GHz to S800 Quad 2.3 GHz or Exynos Octa 1.9/1.3 GHz
4. 8 MP Camera to 13 MP
Everything's just bigger, faster, and better. If you want the latest and greatest, you can't really go wrong with an N3 right now. If you don't mind not living on the cutting edge, and just want something adequately usable, stay with the N1. The choice is up to you.
I had the note 2 and upgraded to note 3.
I have bought it without to consider, because I want to give the note 2 to my girlfriend.
This was the best idea I ever had
I would never have thought
it is so much better
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Xdad_0001 said:
Like every decision we all make, it depends....
Major upgrades from N1 to N3 are
1. 1280 x 800 (~285 ppi) display to 1920 x 1080 (~386 ppi)
2. 2 GB RAM to 3 GB
3. Exynos Dual 1.4 GHz to S800 Quad 2.3 GHz or Exynos Octa 1.9/1.3 GHz
4. 8 MP Camera to 13 MP
Everything's just bigger, faster, and better. If you want the latest and greatest, you can't really go wrong with an N3 right now. If you don't mind not living on the cutting edge, and just want something adequately usable, stay with the N1. The choice is up to you.
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The N7000 has 1GB RAM only.
I got exynos note 3 over my note 1 and difference is day and night.
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ahh yea lol I was in a retail store today to check out the new note.
It really feels different, although I only used it for a moment, the spen was soooo much more accurate that I could actually see me using it on the Note 3. And that metallic looking front and the slightly slimmer screen etc. really felt nice.
I guess I will see if i get my Note 1 sold for an acceptable price.... (only paid 300€ for it after selling my S9000 for 200€ so that upgrade for 100€ was nice!! I guess the update now wouldnt be as big of a step but with a heftier price tag? 200 to lets say 550 .. 350€ - for that price I can get a tablet (which I don't yet own, but actually don't really need I think - rather a new laptop or desktop pc if no phone upgrade - smth that you can actually work with..).
But the note 3 is soooo tempting, especially with the Snapdragon Processor ...
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Another thought: I actually dont use my phone for any heavyload things, mostly all I'm doin is browsing, listening to mp3s, using it as navigation gagdet, to remotely control my pc, and from time to time some minor games. (no heavy 3d, like asphalt or so, but rather strategy/thinking games or maybe fun games like worms or angry birds etc.)
Only the screen on time could really be better - in standby battery drains less than 1% per hour - but with screen on i can watch it drop so fast..
What I am really waiting for though is the possibilty to run a real desktop on my phone and carry my "pc" with me - something like ubuntu for android promise(d). Then I can see me actually needing more performance and even bigger battery, but when will manufacturers finally begin to embrace that idea? Any clue what happened to ubuntu for android for example - instead of releasing that they push out this ubuntu for phones crap..? I mean this is the logical next step in technology: Replace the big clunky computers with your smartphone, a Screen and an bluetooth keyboard etc.
Or is it already possible to have something like that? All those linux on android solutions work through vnc only as far as I understand, without any sound etc. Can you actually do anything useful with those setups yet?

[Q] Note 2 to Note 4?

I know a lot of people on here are saying that it isn't much of an improvement from 3 to 4. What about going from 2 to 4? Would it be worth it, or should I hold out?
I am still on a plan that includes discounted upgrades, and it it due about the time the Note 4 comes out. I am flip flopping. I would upgrade since I am due, but I don't like at all that the boot loader is locked. If I wanted that, I would get a crApple. I am waiting to see if the carrier is going to put out the cheap quad processor or 8 processor model (I can guess they will go cheap). I don't want to go with an international model and loose LTE just to get the unlocked boot loader. But neither do I want to deal with all the Crapulant carrier bloat either.
It looks like a no brainer to me, but it helps that my Note 2 is losing it's marbles. The extra memory and CPU horsepower alone is worth it. I'm stuck using an old S3 while I wait for the release.
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It just depend on you, it is your money and your necesities.
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It looks like a no brainer to me, but it helps that my Note 2 is losing it's marbles. The extra memory and CPU horsepower alone is worth it. I'm stuck using an old S3 while I wait for the release.
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I was thinking it was a not brainer until I saw the Note 3 for $99 (new) on Amazon.
S5 - is also $99, but it's only 16gb so that is a deal breaker for me.
If the Note 4 is $299 is the phone $200 better than the Note 3?
Is it $249 better than the LG G3?
Is it $249 better than the HTC M8?
I love the stylus, but I can't decide if an awesome style plus, the 805 processor, Ultra power saving mode and (amoled vs lcd) is worth $249 more?
I've been eligible for an upgrade since June and I waited for the Note 4 announcement and I'm a little disappointed.
I really want to know more about the software: Did they improve touchwiz? Will there be new features with the old Samsung Gear (Fixes to S Health?
I have a note 3 and a note 2..going from the note 2 to 3 was a huge improvement so yes going from 2 to 4 would be a massive jump. I'd do it for sure.
aulwes said:
I was thinking it was a not brainer until I saw the Note 3 for $99 (new) on Amazon.
S5 - is also $99, but it's only 16gb so that is a deal breaker for me.
If the Note 4 is $299 is the phone $200 better than the Note 3?
Is it $249 better than the LG G3?
Is it $249 better than the HTC M8?
I love the stylus, but I can't decide if an awesome style plus, the 805 processor, Ultra power saving mode and (amoled vs lcd) is worth $249 more?
I've been eligible for an upgrade since June and I waited for the Note 4 announcement and I'm a little disappointed.
I really want to know more about the software: Did they improve touchwiz? Will there be new features with the old Samsung Gear (Fixes to S Health?
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The Note 4 also has the best display ever made on a smartphone: http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note4_ShootOut_1.htm
Brighter, more accurate, sharper, less energy use. That $249 difference pays for the best tech available.
I have the note 2 since release day. I love it, but knowing the 4 is coming soon, I may as well grab one. I know some people are not Samsung fans, but I love how fast it is compared to apple. To be honest, I don't really use the stylus that much, but I love the screen size. I'm definitely gonna get it for sure. The xda community always amazes me on what they can do.
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Dave2582 said:
I know a lot of people on here are saying that it isn't much of an improvement from 3 to 4. What about going from 2 to 4? Would it be worth it, or should I hold out?
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maybe for someone not worth to upgrading from Note3 to Note4
but from Note2 >> u will have all features of Note3 (optimized and tweaked features) + more features...
so it will be good idea to do this...
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I think it's a no-brainer, and I'm making the jump.
Consider note 3 users as beta testers for note 4... I guess being worth it is relative. I'm on note 2 and I don't feel as if I NEED to upgrade but I guess it would be nice to have a new toy to play with until the industry tells me I'm outdated again.
Dave2582 said:
I know a lot of people on here are saying that it isn't much of an improvement from 3 to 4. What about going from 2 to 4? Would it be worth it, or should I hold out?
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The problem with the question is not is there an upgrade. It's there is a subjective value placed on the "upgrade." On top of it, we're being asked to know how to place a value on subject value you would have on top of it, like we would have the same wants and needs as you. Basically, you're asking a question that really can't be answered. No offense meant.
Obviously, there are upgrades to the phone from the Note 2 or 3. The Note 2 will have increased changes as compared to the Note 3. I think the hardware is the most objective. You just have to ask your yourself, are the cpu, ram, screen (resolution and size), and so forth increases useful, wanted or needed for how you use your mobile device. You may want to include available accessories, and not just the ones by Samsung, too.
Software wise, this is more difficult because this is dependent on how you use your device. If you don't use the Spen, than the Spen software changes are meaningless. If you use third-party software for everything, such as email, office tools, then the applications that come with the device may be meaningless too; you'll also have to considered if the application you do use, are they compatible.
Except for a few applications, the phone is just going to run faster and smoother. It just has more raw power. The exceptions are going to be more about optimizations with the hardware or OS version.
Are you someone who prefers to root their phone, will it be rootable. If you get it right away, can you wait till a root exploit has been found. Also consider if you want it to be deknoxed or have the Knox trigger tripped or not; you may need to wait longer for a solution not to trigger it.
Obviously, you can always wait. And it's a good option if the phone meets your needs and wants. Getting a new phone is an expense. But maybe getting a new phone may mean you have to go onto a different plan that may be more expensive. Then again, what are you really hoping to gain by waiting for the next version? Maybe waiting, is more about till few things you need are found. I waited on the Note 2 till root and WiFi tether had been found for the particular variant.
In my opinion, the Note 2 is a perfectly fine phone. It's only started to show some age, but not very often. It's mainly on some games where you want to have the highest settings turned on. I haven't seen issues with other applications being as power/resource hungry. If you into hacker/mod side of the phone, I would guess you'll see a lot of developers abandon their Note 2 projects as they more onto new devices, such as the Note 4, and I would expect to see a significant jump when the Note 4 is released.
Personally, I'm upgrading from the Note 2. Big reason is the phone got jacked up and cannot to 3G. Others, I want a larger screen (I was hoping closer to the 6" or bigger), eight core CPU, more ram and internal storage. The Note 2 works for needs, but does not always get me my wants.
I'm one of those that feels the Note 3 wasn't enough of an upgrade from the Note 2.
Most people don't realize that CPU and screen PPI has pretty much reach the peak with phones.
A faster processor means nothing if you aren't maxing out the processor you have and more PPI means nothing since the human eye can't see it.
Even though I have a Note 2 with N3bula ROM with Note 3 features, I want the Note 4 for it's even better multitasking and camera.
However, it has to have root which is why I will not pre-order it. If it doesn't get root, I don't want it.
pool_shark said:
I'm one of those that feels the Note 3 wasn't enough of an upgrade from the Note 2.
Most people don't realize that CPU and screen PPI has pretty much reach the peak with phones.
A faster processor means nothing if you aren't maxing out the processor you have and more PPI means nothing since the human eye can't see it.
Even though I have a Note 2 with N3bula ROM with Note 3 features, I want the Note 4 for it's even better multitasking and camera.
However, it has to have root which is why I will not pre-order it. If it doesn't get root, I don't want it.
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Completely agree. Suspect there's been quite a bit of placebo being pushed on us unsuspecting consumersfor some time now. Little to no drawbacks on my note 2 so it may be sticking around for a little while longer if these anti hack rumors turn out to be true.
pool_shark said:
I'm one of those that feels the Note 3 wasn't enough of an upgrade from the Note 2.
Most people don't realize that CPU and screen PPI has pretty much reach the peak with phones.
A faster processor means nothing if you aren't maxing out the processor you have and more PPI means nothing since the human eye can't see it.
Even though I have a Note 2 with N3bula ROM with Note 3 features, I want the Note 4 for it's even better multitasking and camera.
However, it has to have root which is why I will not pre-order it. If it doesn't get root, I don't want it.
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Completely agree. Suspect there's been quite a bit of placebo being pushed on us unsuspecting consumersfor some time now. Little to no drawbacks on my note 2 so it may be sticking around for a little while longer if these anti hack rumors turn out to be true.
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Completely agree. Suspect there's been quite a bit of placebo being pushed on us unsuspecting consumersfor some time now. Little to no drawbacks on my note 2 so it may be sticking around for a little while longer if these anti hack rumors turn out to be true.

[Q] how long will the note 3 live?

How long will the note 3 live?
The reason i am asking is because with all these new hardware and new android updates, i feel my privacy is withering away, and am pretty much in absolute authority and control of my current note 3 (4.4.2 kitkat).
i.e there is no way in hell i am buying a phone with a fingerprint scanner or use a software that isnt compatible with xposed modules like xprivacy.
So how long can i keep this phone, be up to date with high-specs requiring apps and also have my privacy at the same time?
How long will the phone live depends on your usage and luck. It might last three years, four years, five years, no one knows.
You can understand that what hardware is latest, what's not. Note 3 N9005 uses SD 800, while SD 810 is the latest. And does that matter to you? Again, depends on your usage, I mean if you always want the latest and greatest then Note 3 is slightly behind the line, but if you are just an average user then well, its still a great phone.
If you like KitKat (you should because its stable) and as you said Xposed compatibility etc., then keep the phone as long as you can. No one has the right to play with our privacy, totally with you there.
Hardware wise, for regular use it'll hold out very well for at least 2 more years.
With proper management (debloating, custom launcher and proper care) 3-4 years.
You may need to replace the battery at some point though. Those don't last that long.
I've got a 2.5 year old S3 that still runs smoothly in everyday use. And that's the 1GB RAM Exynos version. Considering that, a 3GB RAM Snapdragon 800 device will last at least 5-6 years before it starts struggling to keep up.
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Then maybe a feature phone is safer. Without updates it gets boring. You can use custom roms so you don't need to have fingerprints stored or don't use that feature. There is always a privacy risk nowadays no matter what android you use. Old versions may be at risk as the newer versions get updates etc. You don't have to worry unless you do some "rare" things. Who cares what game you play or which movie you like. For usual people it doesn't matter unless you are sure that your privacy is misused. I was thinking same before but don't care about small things as life will be more tough and i would worry about apps..... Love life instead ^^
It will last loong
My first android was Samsung galaxy I which lasted until note 3 showed - featuring big support from a lot of people who made that phone blazing fast apart from official ROM which was horrible - it lasted loong. For the same thing Note 3 will probably last as much since no significant improvement will be made with future phones.
This phone is feature rich and powerfull, it has really big community and a lot of users. Apart from the hardware related features any software changes can be ported from future phones to this one. And as it gets older it will only be less buggy than freshly new phones.
Well this is my point of view at least and i think i will stick to this baby for as long as it works and boots up! (unless 4k becames standard as 1920x1080 is now that way i might reconsider my view).
Yep note 3 specifications are good to go another 2 years.. But now sammy makes beautiful devices, specifically gs6 and edge are very beautiful.. I think note 5 will be more beautiful.. Becase of that some time we have to go for new divice..
Updated to lollipop and it still runs like a champ. Kitkat is even more stable and kinda feels more practical as well, especially when opening the recent apps menu where you have to wait an eternity.
3gb of ram and a snapdragon 800 should have no problems for at least 2 more years. After that there will probably come other games or apps with higher requirements.
I have a Samsung Galaxy note 3 N9005 and I have a hard time looking for original Samsung note 3 battery in Malaysia. I heard Samsung stopped producing samsung note 3 battery and the battery in the market currently was fake samsung battery. Can anyone recommend me place to buy original samsung note 3 battery which can last for 3 years in Malaysia?
See Accesories section .
Original not many left if any .
most of the batteries on Amazon are fake
Jordantanjunwen said:
I have a Samsung Galaxy note 3 N9005 and I have a hard time looking for original Samsung note 3 battery in Malaysia. I heard Samsung stopped producing samsung note 3 battery and the battery in the market currently was fake samsung battery. Can anyone recommend me place to buy original samsung note 3 battery which can last for 3 years in Malaysia?
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I was able to get a good battery because it was included with a new charger (the white clam shell version)
Try a phone repair store. They would know how to get a good replacement.
I still have 2 left.
FYI
I just put a 256 GB Samsung Select EVO card (39.99) and it works fine.
Plays 4GB movie files just fine. (08-2019)
Samsung 256GB 100MB/s (U3) MicroSDXC EVO Select Memory Card with Adapter
paulsemail2016 said:
I was able to get a good battery because it was included with a new charger (the white clam shell version)
Try a phone repair store. They would know how to get a good replacement.
I still have 2 left.
FYI
I just put a 256 GB Samsung Select EVO card (39.99) and it works fine.
Plays 4GB movie files just fine. (08-2019)
Samsung 256GB 100MB/s (U3) MicroSDXC EVO Select Memory Card with Adapter
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I bought a GadFul compatible battery on amazon about 1 year ago. This battery is really cool, I can use my phone more than a day long without needing to charge it (if I use my phone not as a game station ).
Lst month my motherboard died (sim card reader could not read my sim card anymore), a 2nd hand mb on aliexpress cost about 25 USD... very easy to replace. I am gone for another 4-5 years

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