Database Users

[Q] google play cant download google talk error [solved]

Hi,
here comes my next problem.
I rooter my kf and installed android market and google services framework. On the first start the market want me to sign in and updates to google play. After my sign in I get an error that google services framework has stooped. After restarting I can enter the shop but if wanna download an app, there comes an error ".. could not be downloaded due to an error (921)" and after a short time I get a message in the upper left corner "google talk authentication failed" .
I tried a lot to solve this.
The market got worker after I reinstalled it and signed in with an new acc. Then I got no error. But I want to use my regular google acc. Somebody has got a hint for me?
Thank you and sorry for my bad English.

seems that you have settings on your regular account that interfere with the capabilities of the kf (ie google talk)
maybe it's the better way to use different accounts for the kf and for your other devices
if you don't have other devices anymore you could try to go to google account configuration website -> dashboard and delete the other android devices

Yea thought about that too. I have got a samsung galaxy gt s5830. I bought some apps on that account and want to use them on my kf too. And I want to use that google mail acc on my kf too. :/ I was looking in my google acc settings if I can configure something but did not find anything.
someone had an idea?

did you try to configure settings on the kf or on the google website (maybe with computer) ?

On the website. But with the kf. I was thinking about deleting my other device temporally. But google does not allow it. I can only hide it. I think I will hide it and try my old account again.
[Edit]Did not worked, same error :/ [/edit]

just in the process of searching for a solution - found this one so far:
To the OP I had this issue with updating from cm9 beta 0 to beta 1 and it would give me 921 and a 4## error.. but after a while it fixed itself like it was never anything wrong =] google is jacking up with their new play market so #blamegoogle
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

So maybe I just have to wait ?
I thought about getting the talk.apk and installing it. I was reading something about deactivating some sync options and that this talk app has to sign in at google.

sounds logically ...
found an other one:
I had a couple of error 921 (i think) but a couple of retries they installed
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
seems google has some big problems ...
update: this one looks promising:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24050995

Yea..I hope time will help. I just fixed permissions and deleted dalvic. But it makes no change. You found it on twitter? [Edit]thanks I will try that[/edit]

just updated my last post - look at post #911 & #912
btw: not twitter - google is your friend ...

Man, you are realy good, thanks for your help. Your posted link worked for me. =D

glad to help ...

Real solution
mrdeli said:
Hi,
here comes my next problem.
I rooter my kf and installed android market and google services framework. On the first start the market want me to sign in and updates to google play. After my sign in I get an error that google services framework has stooped. After restarting I can enter the shop but if wanna download an app, there comes an error ".. could not be downloaded due to an error (921)" and after a short time I get a message in the upper left corner "google talk authentication failed" .
I tried a lot to solve this.
The market got worker after I reinstalled it and signed in with an new acc. Then I got no error. But I want to use my regular google acc. Somebody has got a hint for me?
Thank you and sorry for my bad English.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
After cloning a samsung gio s5660 through a CWM backup I started experiencing the same issue. Heres What REALLY happens.
Google authenticates you in their services trought unique "keys" which are automatically generated upon system installation / factory reset, so if you clone your device or install a rom which has these "keys" pre-installed, obviously, your rom will only autheticate you in google servers if your phone is the only one using the service at that given time... Upon failure, your phone assumes to be the one who's wrong, and google servers won't autheticate you until you either tell your phone he is not wrong (by deleting the data from play store, which resets its status and errors) or you change the "keys". SO, what can we learn from this? deleting the play store data IS a temporary solution, and won't solve a thing. Let's delete the duplicated keys shall we?
Navigate with your favourite folder explorer on your android (I use X-plore, you can tell me anything, there's nothing better) to the following directory:
- "(root)/data/data/com.google.android.gsf"
Now you have two real options, either you may delete the all folder, which was the perfect solution for me, since my rom is prepared to re-create it upon phone restart and new keys will be generated, OR, you might want to just delete the contents of app_sslcache inside com.google.android.gsf whish are THE KEYS I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS ALL TIME, YEEEIHHHH and reboot your phone...
Needless to say, take a nandroid backup before you do any of this...
Thank me later
For those who remember me from symbian s60v3 phones, yes, it is me, I'm back, and I've moved to the droid world, it's much better indeed
Ps. Moderators, please test this out, I've done it countless times, or else I wouldn't be wasting my time writting this, and make this the "Clonning" for cwm and Google talk authentication error solution, if you will thank you for your time reading my post, regards---

Do you install gapps package (Google Apps) ?

Often ROM's instruct you to install the gapps package (http://goo.im/gapps ), which adds a collection of Google Apps. I'm often surprised that more people don't know, even sometimes Rom Developers themselves, that you don't always need them.
In fact not installing them, saves not only space, but ram & cpu usage. You end up with a faster device. Everything you need is already added in almost every standard Rom (including Chameleon OS for example).
For example, checking Gmail. You don't need Gmail App. The normal e-mail program that comes with Android already supports Gmail (and other e-mail providers).
You also don't need Google Search. The stock browser already uses it when you search. You save about 20 MB Ram (sometimes more, depending on which Rom you use), by not having Search on the desktop.
About the only con (drawback) is if you're flashing a phone, you're going to want or need gapps as that includes the voice commands (if I recall correctly). But if that's something you feel you can live without or don't need (because you have a tablet or maybe you don't use them on your phone), then not installing gapps can make things easier.
So do you install gapps (Google Apps)?

Actually, for some custom roms, in order for all the features to work, you need to flash Gapps. But for most you dont need. I have never had any bad things from flashing or not flahsing. But i always do flash so i can sync my purchases and apps.

I never flash the Gapps packages for any ROM I use. I only will add the Google Play Store, Google Services Framework and the Account Manager (for JB). All those Google apps are pointless and like stated earlier, will bog down the battery life and performance. Usually I will freeze the Play Store and such when not using them.
Its quite easy to put the required apps in the /system/app folder, set permissions correctly and reboot to get ONLY the Google Play Store. Of course you will need a root explorer like app to do this.

Guitarman2010 said:
I never flash the Gapps packages for any ROM I use. I only will add the Google Play Store, Google Services Framework and the Account Manager (for JB). All those Google apps are pointless and like stated earlier, will bog down the battery life and performance. Usually I will freeze the Play Store and such when not using them.
Its quite easy to put the required apps in the /system/app folder, set permissions correctly and reboot to get ONLY the Google Play Store. Of course you will need a root explorer like app to do this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Every ROM I've ever used had Google Play already installed. I believe Framework and Account Manager are already inside as well. So I've not needed to track down the actual app for it.

Socially Uncensored said:
Every ROM I've ever used had Google Play already installed. I believe Framework and Account Manager are already inside as well. So I've not needed to track down the actual app for it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sometimes I'll get lucky and the Play Store is preloaded like SBlood's CM7. I usually use twa_priv's ROMs as my primaries in which I most always have to add Google Play, except I think the latest release (4-19-13), I believe that had it built in.

Guitarman2010 said:
Sometimes I'll get lucky and the Play Store is preloaded like SBlood's CM7. I usually use twa_priv's ROMs as my primaries in which I most always have to add Google Play, except I think the latest release (4-19-13), I believe that had it built in.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Google Play store updates its self. So no matter which version you installed, it will be current sooner rather than later.

Socially Uncensored said:
Google Play store updates its self. So no matter which version you installed, it will be current sooner rather than later.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am well aware of that but thanks for mentioning it as maybe it will enlighten other users

I use this Gapps package. It is light apps and RAM usage.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

I think some of you have misunderstood the Gapps.
AFAIK, every AOSP-based ROM will have separate Gapps. Some REQUIRED, some not. You can choose to install or not. NOTE: if you won't install Gapps, you WON'T get Google Play.

Or connection to google services. If you do not flash Google Apps, you get nothing google (beside the software) so your wifi signal, will always be grey, instead of that nice blue. Thats the reason why i flash, that grey bugs me, I only want the blue colour(;

votinh said:
I think some of you have misunderstood the Gapps.
AFAIK, every AOSP-based ROM will have separate Gapps. Some REQUIRED, some not. You can choose to install or not. NOTE: if you won't install Gapps, you WON'T get Google Play.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's not true or at least its not try with the ROMs I use. Google's app store is there without me having to add all the extras that come with Gapps

tobiascuypers said:
Or connection to google services. If you do not flash Google Apps, you get nothing google (beside the software) so your wifi signal, will always be grey, instead of that nice blue. Thats the reason why i flash, that grey bugs me, I only want the blue colour(;
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Also not true. I have a nice Wifi signal without Gapps. I also connect to my Gmail using the stock e-mail problem.
This was posted using the stock browser without gapps installed.

Well, seeing this thread, I've tried freezing several system apps on my devices. After freezing backupconfirm and sharebackup, apps seems to open up faster and the device snappier..

I used to install gapps every time, now I usually dont. I like the email app in JB a lot better than the gmail app. Usually install the play store and maps

I like the maps and play store hate the gmail

I find that installing gapps, especially Google play services causes more bugs
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire HD using xda app-developers app

Had no idea!!!!!!!!!
hey guys,thanks for this post i was under the impression I HAD NO OTHER CHOICE...every time i have asked this in a specific rom ...always told to read the beginning of the 1st post on how to install before i post.....maybe wasnt making myself clear..thanks for answering my question...time to experiment !!!!!!!! :good::good::good::good:

Does anyone know exactly what Google flavored apps are required for the just the Play Store to function properly?
Sent from my LG-MS770

I install gapps everytime because I am always getting new apps. It is interesting to hear that it isn't needed and can make things snappier if you don't need to download new apps.

paulsonmcreilly said:
I install gapps everytime because I am always getting new apps. It is interesting to hear that it isn't needed and can make things snappier if you don't need to download new apps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I want to know exactly which ones are absolutely necessary so I can either remove or freeze the ones I don't need. I'm all about battery life and performance
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire using Tapatalk 2

5.9.028. google play services and google play problems and errors

Hello everyone, I have a problem with my Le Pro 3 X720 which I bought about a month or two after it was released. So, the problem is that one day (I don't remember when or what was it) I started getting notified that google play store has stopped working. I, stupidly, just ignored the problem because it didn't cause anything bad to my phone except that annoying notification, everything worked as usual. But after some time, my play store really stopped working and I couldn't download anything from it PLUS now I get notified that google play services stopped. Something like: "Sorry, Google Play Services stopped.", and when I try to enter my play store, I only get this: "Couldn't sign in. There was a problem communicating with Google servers. Try again later." I tried various solutions: deleting cache, deleting data, uninstalling and reinstalling, I tried dozens of stuff and then decided to factory reset my phone, but that also didn't help, furthermore, now I dont even have Chrome, Youtube, Snapchat and stuff which are all connected to google play services. I have seen somewhere that I'm not the only one with that problem, and that especially happened with new EUI update 5.9.028s (Stable). I BEG YOU to help me A.S.A.P. because I can't afford buying a new phone right now and I need some google services for my job.

Hmm, I wonder if this has to do with the new uncertified Gapps mess. https://www.xda-developers.com/google-blocks-gapps-uncertified-devices-custom-rom-whitelist/
Basically, phones that are not certified for the Play Store will not be able to use Gapps. But you can whitelist your phone if you register its GSF ID. The x720 isn't certified for Google apps because it was never released internationally. It was only released in China. So the original stock ROM doesn't have Google apps. However, vendors create their own modified versions of the stock eUI ROMs with Google apps and less bloatware. Which means the phones aren't certified for Gapps since Gapps weren't loaded by the OEM, but a third party.
But all of this is speculation. And probably has nothing to do with your problem. The Gapps uncertified issue only affects ROMs with an Android build date of March 2018. If your build date is older, which is 100% the case here, you shouldn't be affected at all.
My x722 is "uncertified" according to the Google Play Store (see Play Store > Settings in Play Store menu, scroll to the bottom). Yet I can use Google apps just fine. I'm on 20s, unrooted with a locked bootloader. Basically, if you're certified you can pass SafetyNet. Which means you'll be able to use banking apps that detect root (and don't function if your device is rooted), you can find Netflix in the Play Store (as opposed to finding its apk elsewhere and installing it), and so on.
You might have to flash a custom ROM like LineageOS. Doing this is really easy. All you have to do is unlock the bootloader and flash TWRP (literally just a few commands) and then flash the ROM. LOS most likely already includes Gapps. Rooted devices can use Magisk and Magisk Hide to bypass SafetyNet. eUI is pretty terrible and I don't recommend it unless you need to keep it until your warranty runs out (like me).

sheckss said:
Hello everyone, I have a problem with my Le Pro 3 X720 which I bought about a month or two after it was released. So, the problem is that one day (I don't remember when or what was it) I started getting notified that google play store has stopped working. I, stupidly, just ignored the problem because it didn't cause anything bad to my phone except that annoying notification, everything worked as usual. But after some time, my play store really stopped working and I couldn't download anything from it PLUS now I get notified that google play services stopped. Something like: "Sorry, Google Play Services stopped.", and when I try to enter my play store, I only get this: "Couldn't sign in. There was a problem communicating with Google servers. Try again later." I tried various solutions: deleting cache, deleting data, uninstalling and reinstalling, I tried dozens of stuff and then decided to factory reset my phone, but that also didn't help, furthermore, now I dont even have Chrome, Youtube, Snapchat and stuff which are all connected to google play services. I have seen somewhere that I'm not the only one with that problem, and that especially happened with new EUI update 5.9.028s (Stable). I BEG YOU to help me A.S.A.P. because I can't afford buying a new phone right now and I need some google services for my job.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just manual download google play services and update them.
If it will not let you get rooted and delete old google play services.
Sent from my LEX720 using xda premium

Stock ROM without Google?

Hi,
I'm looking for a stock ROM without any Google apps or services.
I want to test the phone without Google and see if it is usable.
Is there a script I can use to remove all Google files from the phone?
Thanks

halifage said:
Hi,
I'm looking for a stock ROM without any Google apps or services.
I want to test the phone without Google and see if it is usable.
Is there a script I can use to remove all Google files from the phone?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you aware of it? You can't use the same apps with the same behavior as before. It's not a big deal. messenger apps for example uses google play services for instant messaging. Many other apps are unreliable without play services.
But you need to root your stock rom and can freeze Google play services(only this one is enough for first testing). It's the main service/app that's needed for every other Google service/app/connection.

strongst said:
Are you aware of it? You can't use the same apps with the same behavior as before. It's not a big deal. messenger apps for example uses google play services for instant messaging. Many other apps are unreliable without play services.
But you need to root your stock rom and can freeze Google play services(only this one is enough for first testing). It's the main service/app that's needed for every other Google service/app/connection.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
vielen Dank
I am fully aware of the repercussions. I want to dive in and delete the files, not just freeze them.
I've used the terminal debloater as suggested by @rajatgupta1998 but it doesn't offer the option to delete lib, jar, xml and other files.
At least i don't get the black screen after deleting, which is better than all scripts i flashed so far.

You could try NanoDroid, but make a backup before.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-nanomod-5-0-20170405-microg-t3584928

thorin0815 said:
You could try NanoDroid, but make a backup before.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-nanomod-5-0-20170405-microg-t3584928
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
vielen Dank,
But i'm not actually looking install microG or any other form of GApps.
I just want to delete the ones that come with the stock ROM to have a Google-free stock ROM.
It seems certain files (like Google Services Framework) cause the phone to be stuck at black screen during boot.

halifage said:
vielen Dank,
But i'm not actually looking install microG or any other form of GApps.
I just want to delete the ones that come with the stock ROM to have a Google-free stock ROM.
It seems certain files (like Google Services Framework) cause the phone to be stuck at black screen during boot.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As I wrote before, you can do the following on stock rom: just freeze/delete Google play services app and you cut every Google communications. You can't execute play store, YouTube, drive, accounts or whatever Google app. You'll see no Google play services wakelock anymore. If framework files are there after that doesn't matter.

strongst said:
As I wrote before, you can do the following on stock rom: just freeze/delete Google play services app and you cut every Google communications. You can't execute play store, YouTube, drive, accounts or whatever Google app. You'll see no Google play services wakelock anymore. If framework files are there after that doesn't matter.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks.
Looks like my only option so far.

halifage said:
Thanks.
Looks like my only option so far.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just do this test and see if it's suitable for your purposes

strongst said:
Just do this test and see if it's suitable for your purposes
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Testing now.
@strongst It's actually kinda like having the best of both worlds. It turns out some apps that required the maps API still works, including Maps (from Google).
The added bonus is that is can switch play services on at will.
I just deleted Google apps that i don't use.
Phone has been working without any issues at all. I have very few apps (whatsapp, automateIt, etc). i use xperia keyboard, FOSS apps like new pipe (for youtube), Dnotes (for keep), yalp store (for playe store).
Battery life and SOT have almost doubled.

Google Play Store: Apps won't update/download

I'm on the 500GB original Shield TV. Totally stock with the latest update that came out a few days ago (although I had this same issue on the previous version as well)
In a nutshell when I go to the Play Store to install a new app or update app the D/L looks like it's about to update but the indication bar never actually downloads. It just gets stuck there indefinitely. Here are the things I have tried to fix the issue:
- clear cache in Play Store
- clear cache in Play Store Services (or google play services...whatever it's called)
-removed my Google account and logged in again
-uninstalled old version of Play Store
-uninstalled old version of Google Play Services
I have no idea what else I can try short of a complete factory reset (which i really don't want to do)
Any advice would be much appreciated!

Thanks for all the advice!

Same problem here mate, did you get anywhere with it

Can you download the/an app directly not, through GP Store, and successfully install it?