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[Q] so what do we all reckon the pogo pins are for?

looking at some of the pics from the various brief reviews around the web, it seems this device has four pogo pins vs the SGN's three.
so what do we reckon they are for?
i would personally love to see a landscape dock with HDMI & USB host, just like the Advent Vega/ Viewpad 10S had. such a nice feature for a mobile office, also great for playing games on the big screen! :laugh:
place your bets here the closest guess wins a Nexus 7
(no not really, but wouldnt that be cool?)

there are POGO pins for the dock

aaronpoweruser said:
there are POGO pins for the dock
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I wonder if they'll just produce desk docks or if there will be an official car dock.

Brigaid said:
I wonder if they'll just produce desk docks or if there will be an official car dock.
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I'm hoping for a official car dock .

_dan said:
I'm hoping for a official car dock .
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Same here. Epic sat nav... especially with the offline maps coming.

Betting keyboard like the lapdock
by me, for me and I love you

My money is on a desk dock similar to that released for the GNex, first, followed perhaps by a vehicle dock. I'm not seeing much chance for a keyboard dock; the 7" form factor is too narrow, I feel, and it doesn't mesh well with Google's apparent intention for this to be an almost exclusive consumption device.

BlackHoleSlam said:
Betting keyboard like the lapdock
by me, for me and I love you
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Thats what im thinking, especially with the Asus partnership (considering their history with keyboard docks)
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being four pins... is it too much to ask for MHL? I can live with a BT keyboard but MHL is somewhat of a deal breaker for me.... especially as the $300 tennis ball isn't avaliable in the UK (and likely wont be for some time!)

Hal_The_Hacker said:
being four pins... is it too much to ask for MHL? I can live with a BT keyboard but MHL is somewhat of a deal breaker for me.... especially as the $300 tennis ball isn't avaliable in the UK (and likely wont be for some time!)
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MHL needs 3 pins (Differential pair + control) + power + ground So it can't be MHL.
I'd say it's more likely to be something simple like stereo audio+power+ground

SilentMobius said:
MHL needs 3 pins (Differential pair + control) + power + ground So it can't be MHL.
I'd say it's more likely to be something simple like stereo audio+power+ground
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Uhhhh... if mhl needs 3 pins and this has 4, how is that a problem again...?? Can they just NOT use one pin for mhl... and use the extra pin for some other accessory...??
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DrunkFuX666 said:
Uhhhh... if mhl needs 3 pins and this has 4, how is that a problem again...?? Can they just NOT use one pin for mhl... and use the extra pin for some other accessory...??
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MHL need 3 pins for _signal_ you would also need power and ground, for a minimum of 5 pins

Probably the same as the Nexus and just a lame $90 desk dock that only has a head phone jack.

My best hope is you will get an audio dock (with speakers) that should be great for watching movies. 4 pins is not enough for much else - and Asus has talked about an audio dock.

Audio dock is on the way for sure. Possibly no keyboard, though.

t-readyroc said:
Audio dock is on the way. Possibly no keyboard, though.
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You are correct.
"Those hoping for a docking keyboard, as found on the company's Transformer range of tablets, should expect to be disappointed however. Asus has told Pocket-lint there were no plans for one telling and that the device needs to be 10-inches or more for it to work effectively."
Sigh...

I'm not seeing much chance for a keyboard dock; the 7" form factor is too narrow
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*cough*

hopefully its for an awesome, dual analog, 4 face button, 4 shoulder button, slim game controller dock that comes with an easy to us GUI touch map software and full tegra support. PS Vita watch out!
but in reality its for the stereo speaker dock, that will probably cost halve the amount the actual tab costs and sound like a deaf person singing...

speednub said:
You are correct.
"Those hoping for a docking keyboard, as found on the company's Transformer range of tablets, should expect to be disappointed however. Asus has told Pocket-lint there were no plans for one telling and that the device needs to be 10-inches or more for it to work effectively."
Sigh...
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That would be pretty sick though. I'm gonna continue hoping. BTW, I'm still hoping for a proper pogo nav dock for my SGN. ha

_dan said:
I'm hoping for a official car dock .
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+1

Docking stations?

Has anyone seen any docking stations rumored?
I am looking for something that I can drop it in/on and it will go into clock (dock) mode.
Thx!

Just get a normal stand and a charger and an NFC sticker and use Automate It (I think that's the name) to tell it to enter dock mode.
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You know the Nexus 7 was supposed to have a dock, it was leaked and everything. We still don't have it.
The answer is probably. Eventually. Some day. Google is HORRIBLE with accessory support, it takes them much longer than it should to release their products.

sadly seems that the N4 doesn't have POGO pins, I love them and they are on the N7 N10 and GNex, I don't understand why google removed them from the N4!

Interesting on the automate - it idea.
I love the POGO pins on our n1's, so easy to pop on the cradle and done. We have 3 cradles.
Google really handled the accessories with the N1 well, maybe after that one they weren't as good, I didn't follow the other devices.
I can't figure out why more devices don't use POGO's... Especially the high end ones like this...

Tuxliri said:
sadly seems that the N4 doesn't have POGO pins, I love them and they are on the N7 N10 and GNex, I don't understand why google removed them from the N4!
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Well, as far as POGO for charging... this one has QI, so there's no need for the pins, just drop it on a compatible pad and it's charging. Anything else could be handled with NFC recognition and bluetooth data exchange.

Right, as long as we can get it to go into doc moed automatically and it sites on a decent angle to be viewed from the side it will suffice.
So far I have not found any.

USSENTERNCC1701E said:
Well, as far as POGO for charging... this one has QI, so there's no need for the pins, just drop it on a compatible pad and it's charging. Anything else could be handled with NFC recognition and bluetooth data exchange.
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I hope this will be true, but it's still a lot more complex than the pogo pin solution. Lack of pogo pins is the deal-breaker for me on any upgrade to the N4. If Google does release a dock with all the functionality of the GN docks via Qi, NFC, and Bluetooth that works seamlessly and holds the phone at a good angle for clock mode, they will probably get me to upgrade. Fingers crossed...

That you think about this one - iLuv MobiRock ?
Sorry, i can't share links.
Look at www [dot] iluv [dot] com
Status: Pre-order
Price: 249$
Bluetooth for music
Qi for charging
NFC for easy pairing

Are these Original (Made by Samsung)?

I'm thinking of buying an additional charger with cable and headset as a backup; possibly for primary use. What are your experiences with buying OEM-products from ebay. Are they really OEM; or knock-offs. Please judge the following links below and let me know; thanks in advance.
Are these accessories original?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OEM-Sam...597681?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item20cdda6db1
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Sam...283703?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item1e75238fb7
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OEM-SAM...532546?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item25760fbbc2

winlinmac001 said:
I'm thinking of buying an additional charger with cable and headset as a backup; possibly for primary use. What are your experiences with buying OEM-products from ebay. Are they really OEM; or knock-offs. Please judge the following links below and let me know; thanks in advance.
Are these accessories original?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OEM-Sam...597681?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item20cdda6db1
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Sam...283703?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item1e75238fb7
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OEM-SAM...532546?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item25760fbbc2
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they look real to me except the last black charger, i got the headphones and the first charger in White, they look totally the same, but the last one has such a new layout i never saw before (Not the american Plug type, i mean the plastic design) which is probably because its the S3 one, but it doesnt matter, my old Nokia Charger charges the Note 2 just like any other MicroUSB charger... but the headphones differ, and that one should work
See Picture:

The picture can be fake , thats why i will buy cheap things online only(i mean things thats really really cheap :maybe things that is lower than one dollar)
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desirer said:
The picture can be fake , thats why i will buy cheap things online only(i mean things thats really really cheap :maybe things that is lower than one dollar)
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yep, i only buy via Amazon because of that.

If it says oem is not original.
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vash_h said:
If it says oem is not original.
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How can you say that?

system.img said:
How can you say that?
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Put Original charger instead of OEM, you'll find a lot of different products.
I don't know why, but when they say OEM it means to them that it's JUST LIKE or NEAR original charger. I got OEM nokia wireless headphones, the jump back and forward buttons are backwards (when I press forward it goes back, and vice versa, even though they are IDENTICAL to the originals that Nokia makes!).

All of these items are OEM (Genuine Samsung), but I don't recommend to buy these chargers, because of they supply only 1A and you gonna kill your battery quickly. For Note 2 you need charger that supplies 2A.

Dock to use with bumber

Hey there. I have been using a cheap generic dock off eBay to use my Nexus 4 as a clock on my nightstand. I like being able to see the time on the phone at night.
I dropped my Nexus 4 so figured I better get the bumper, and now have the bumper on there from the Play Store. Now my Nexus won't plug into the dock anymore though since the bumper causes the usb port to be recessed a few mm's.
Does anyone know if there is a dock that would allow me to plug my Nexus in and keep it in the bumper?
Thanks!

Does anyone think this one will work?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Sync-Ch...879023?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item35c286c5af

rehughe said:
Does anyone think this one will work?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Sync-Ch...879023?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item35c286c5af
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I doubt it. I have a bluetooth/dock alarm clock that has a similar microusb setup as that and the bumper really does offset it quite a bit and doesn't work. Now I'm pondering selling the bumper as much as I love it... I have to be able to dock!

Galaxy s4 wireless charging?

So I just bought this wireless charging dock last night: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=400461623073
And thought that this is all I would need in order to charge my battery. However, Now I'm worried I will need a battery door. Does anyone know git certain whether or not I will need a different battery door to use wireless charging (currently using the one that came out of the box) if so, where would I be able to find one at? Thanks in advance!
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Samsung is releasing a battery door that's compatible. They haven't set a release date for it yet though.
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colts187 said:
Samsung is releasing a battery door that's compatible. They haven't set a release date for it yet though.
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Okay, thank you for the reply! Any idea how much it will cost?
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I read $39.99 I think it was an article on cnet.com

Ghstudent said:
So I just bought this wireless charging dock last night: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=400461623073
And thought that this is all I would need in order to charge my battery. However, Now I'm worried I will need a battery door. Does anyone know git certain whether or not I will need a different battery door to use wireless charging (currently using the one that came out of the box) if so, where would I be able to find one at? Thanks in advance!
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Don't need to get a new battery door. That new Samsung door will actually be larger than the current one. Some/many cases won't fit.
Get this instead - wireless receiver that fits inside the stock battery door:
http://www.monsterwatts.com/Galaxy_S4.html

wified said:
Don't need to get a new battery door. That new Samsung door will actually be larger than the current one. Some/many cases won't fit.
Get this instead - wireless receiver that fits inside the stock battery door:
http://www.monsterwatts.com/Galaxy_S4.html
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Have you personally bought from this site?
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Ghstudent said:
Have you personally bought from this site?
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I pre-ordered the one for the S4, after it was written up on Engadget. It hasn't been released yet, apparently, so I'm still waiting.
Here's the Engadget article. Some good things said about it in the comments:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/10/monster-watts-wiqiqi-slips-wireless-charging-into-samsung-galaxy/
The order site says that it will ship by May 31:
http://www.vivealive.net/WiQiQi-Samsung-S4-Wireless-Charger-Set-WQS4.htm

Well, I just bought it. Will review it when I receive it on the 31st.

I just went ahead and bought a $10 s3 qi receiver, hoping it will work but if not it isn't too much money down the drain. Will let you guys know how it works
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I ordered a kit as well.
I hope it lives up to the hype.
Will report.
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Samsung is terrible with the S4 accessories.. they release a new battery cover just to enable wireless charging.. ok fine.. but they release a stupid 70bux transparent flip cover that doesn't support wireless charging.. so basically i can never get wireless charging if i ever want to use their oem products or i need a special case if i want to use their oem wireless charging cover and fit?? real smart thinking.. guess i'll give this kit a try too

I thought it was the battery it self that has a coil in it for the NFC and that was for charging?
if not I have my palm pre still that has that wireless charging - could I take that battery cover apart and take that coil out and just attach it to the inside of the phone
I dont see anywhere where a battery cover with this built in will connect inside like it does on the palm pre, there arent any contacts that I can see that will go to the battery charting how would this work

leftkidney said:
I thought it was the battery it self that has a coil in it for the NFC and that was for charging?
if not I have my palm pre still that has that wireless charging - could I take that battery cover apart and take that coil out and just attach it to the inside of the phone
I dont see anywhere where a battery cover with this built in will connect inside like it does on the palm pre, there arent any contacts that I can see that will go to the battery charting how would this work
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Are you sure you are looking at a GS4?
There are 4 contacts. 2 to the left and 2 to the right of the flash. I think the left ones are for charging. I am basically ready to do what you said but need to figure out the polarity of these contacts.
There are other related threads but no responses yet...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252949
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295273
To the guy worrying about the flip cover - there are tons of wireless charging inserts on eBay. You don't need the Samsung back, just get one of those things and stick it under the cover.
Cheers.

I was browsing around folders and noticed these files.
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Buy this receiver
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1355305
use coupon code CPASTE13SPRING for 5% discount.
I'm using S3 kit and my friend is using notes2 kit from them, (receiver and charging pad) and have just ordered this receiver to use in S4

You can put a wireless charging receiver card inside your S4. Now it is a very pop way to charge your phone. If you need any technical help, please PM me.
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wai_lai416 said:
Samsung is terrible with the S4 accessories.. they release a new battery cover just to enable wireless charging.. ok fine.. but they release a stupid 70bux transparent flip cover that doesn't support wireless charging.. so basically i can never get wireless charging if i ever want to use their oem products or i need a special case if i want to use their oem wireless charging cover and fit?? real smart thinking.. guess i'll give this kit a try too
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get rid of your jacket, just a receiver card and a transmitter pad for S4 wireless charging solution. :laugh:

Ghstudent said:
I just went ahead and bought a $10 s3 qi receiver, hoping it will work but if not it isn't too much money down the drain. Will let you guys know how it works
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I'm hoping yours worked. I've had a qi receiver in my S3 for about 6 months now. I pulled it out to see if it would work in my S4 and it doesn't quite fit. The pad would fit, but it lays over the sim card and mSdcard, which probably wouldn't be a big deal, but the problem is the two small brass contacts don't quite fit in the square charging holes on the s4, they're probably 0.25mm too large and slightly to far apart for the S4.
My S3 pad is about 6 months old though, so hopefully the newer s3 pads have been modified to work with both phones.
I love wireless charging though and just went ahead and ordered a qi pad for my s4 from the fastech link earlier in this thread.

acruxksa said:
I'm hoping yours worked. I've had a qi receiver in my S3 for about 6 months now. I pulled it out to see if it would work in my S4 and it doesn't quite fit. The pad would fit, but it lays over the sim card and mSdcard, which probably wouldn't be a big deal, but the problem is the two small brass contacts don't quite fit in the square charging holes on the s4, they're probably 0.25mm too large and slightly to far apart for the S4.
My S3 pad is about 6 months old though, so hopefully the newer s3 pads have been modified to work with both phones.
I love wireless charging though and just went ahead and ordered a qi pad for my s4 from the fastech link earlier in this thread.
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Thanks for the response, unfortunately, the S3 Receiver was too bulky and wouldn't allow the door to shut.

This is what I bought and seems to work perfectly
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D0LTVLU/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Does the part you place in the phone get hot? Causing NFC or other issues?