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What is AOSP?

Hey, sorry for the N00b question. I'm a software developer (among other things), but am just now delving into the world of custom ROMs for my EVO 4g. I've been looking at what's available and see a few that say either AOSP or NOT AOSP.
This leads me to a few questions.
1. What is AOSP?
- Is it a separate code base (other than 3.70.651.1 #15) from which to start customizing the code to create a custom ROM?
2. What are the main differences that are generally present between the normal code base and AOSP based?
3. Can you go back to a ROM based on 3.70.651.1 (or another base) if you go AOSP?
4. If it is a custom code base, whas it created from scratch or based on something else?
Thanks for your time in answering this. If I'm way off base on what AOSP is, just let me know. I appreciate your replies!

Simple, it is android without any overlay from different carriers. It is just bone stock android.
Android Open Source Project.
Edited because I fail!

Disclaimer: I'm not taking anything away from any of the Devs here. I can't do any of the stuff they do with any of the ROMs, so please, don't take the following as such.
Most of the non AOSP roms here are themed versions of the stock rom with performance increasing tweaks and what not. Not saying there's anything wrong with that, but it is what it is.
AOSP roms like Cyanogenmod are built from the source code. They are usually more bleeding edge because when the source is released from Google, they get to working on the update. Cyanogenmod 7 is already on 2.3.3, whereas most sense roms are still on 2.2.1

AOSP is short for Android Open Source Project. It's the source code for Android.
HTC takes the AOSP code and then adds Sense and their other tweaks to it. Basically all ROMs whether they are from HTC, Samsung, or who ever, is based on AOSP. The thing is that some of the OEMs modify the code so much that things start to become incompatible. Plus if you go straight to AOSP right now, the source code is up to Android 2.3.3, no OEM released ROM is up to that version. So that creates even more incompatibilities.
Some custom ROMs use AOSP and implement the code to devices from the ground up. That's what Cyanogen Mod does. MIUI also does this (and adds some heavy modifications to the code as well) but that ROM isn't specifically built for the EVO but is instead ported from the Nexus One ROM.
To keep it simple:
- AOSP is Android at it's most basic form, it's straight from Google and is pretty much what the Nexus devices use as final builds.
- OEM ROMs are based on AOSP but are usually outdated and heavily modified.
- You can go back and forth if you want, but if you do, you should wipe your cache as their are incompatibilities.

Wow, that's great everyone! I completely understand now. I really appreciate all the help and replies!
Could I ask what everyone's favorite AOSP & non-AOSP ROM is? I know this has been asked before, but I'd like the opinions of those that replied to this post, if they don't mind.
I'm looking for "bleeding-edge" technology, wireless tethering, hulu, etc. all the bells and whistles essentially. I don't care so much about how "pretty" it looks, just functionality and cool-gadgety-stuff. Thanks again!!!

ShadowCyborg said:
Wow, that's great everyone! I completely understand now. I really appreciate all the help and replies!
Could I ask what everyone's favorite AOSP & non-AOSP ROM is? I know this has been asked before, but I'd like the opinions of those that replied to this post, if they don't mind.
I'm looking for "bleeding-edge" technology, wireless tethering, hulu, etc. all the bells and whistles essentially. I don't care so much about how "pretty" it looks, just functionality and cool-gadgety-stuff. Thanks again!!!
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i would definitely suggest you look at cyanogenmod. it is built straight from source but improved apon in many ways. you can think of cyanogenmod as a crowd sourced rom. meaning anyone can contribute and submit changes to it. it is governed and controlled by the core members of the cyanogenmod team (team douche) but open for anyone to modify. what this gets you is a rom as close to aosp but made better. things like the power bar widget in the notification menu, music controls on the lock screen, quiet hours (notifications are turned down or off as well as dimming leds during set hours so they do not wake if if you say get an email at 5am), etc etc. members of teamwin recently built 4g support from the ground up be themselves and it is now a part of cyanogenmod. besides adding in features they also do a great deal of optimizing creating one of the most streamlined, user friendly fastest roms available.
oh and one part of your question seems unanswered - the 3.70.x.x.x of sense based roms is just the numbering of the rom build from htc for sprint but will always be built off of an older version of android due to the amount of customization done to it.

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As far as AOSP go I like Cyanogen CM7 or MIUI but if I want a sense type rom I typically run Mikfroyo or Fresh.

Thank you all very much, once again! I have so far tried the following ROMs.
- King's Ultra Unleashed R2
- Cyanogen Mod 6.1.2
I'm running Cyanogen Mod right now and it's pretty cool, but the problem is I really like different features of each. I do like how many features are built into the Cyanogen Mod ROM though. I have to say, I LOVE the quiet time feature a LOT! I've wished Android had that for a while now. Oh, and the increased battery life and decreased charge time of both is AWESOME!!! My phone had gotten to the point where it wouldn't even charge in the car. It just kept the battery at the level it was at. Now it will only drop 7% battery over the entire night, unplugged!
I'm contemplating trying the EVO Non-Sense right now. I am just trying many of them to see which I like the best. Thanks for all the advise everyone!

Koni Elite II has some really cool features in it. try them all, it's a lot of fun

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i thought it was the name of an ancient greek writer?

ShadowCyborg said:
Thank you all very much, once again! I have so far tried the following ROMs.
- King's Ultra Unleashed R2
- Cyanogen Mod 6.1.2
I'm running Cyanogen Mod right now and it's pretty cool, but the problem is I really like different features of each. I do like how many features are built into the Cyanogen Mod ROM though. I have to say, I LOVE the quiet time feature a LOT! I've wished Android had that for a while now. Oh, and the increased battery life and decreased charge time of both is AWESOME!!! My phone had gotten to the point where it wouldn't even charge in the car. It just kept the battery at the level it was at. Now it will only drop 7% battery over the entire night, unplugged!
I'm contemplating trying the EVO Non-Sense right now. I am just trying many of them to see which I like the best. Thanks for all the advise everyone!
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you can also try cm7, which is gingerbread based. cm6.x.x is froyo based. its in the rc1 stage meaning it is almost finalized. the rc1 does not have 4g but the nightlies do.
rc1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=956187
nightlies
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=729802
the nightlies are also 2.3.3 which is the newest build. nightlies=bleeding edge. they, as the name implies, as released nightly and contain all the code submitted from that day. sometimes they are broken or even fail to build but such is the life of living on the edge!

Alanman, thanks! I was thinking about trying that one too and... I agree that this is a BLAST! I'm absolutely loving the custom features, software and abilities.

Digged up an old thread through search
I was wondering what AOSP meant as well, but thanks I now know and might try some of the suggested ROMs in here So far I had only tried a King ROM (Shooter) with Sense 3.0. I don't mind it, but currently I can't get Swype to behave for me so I was thinking about dropping it and moving onto another.

A request to All developers

This is a request to all the developers developing for HD2, If you want a fully working, fully stable build on HD2 with top performance you would have to stop treating your device as Bravo, everywhere i look from recoveries to kernel i see Bravo, Evo, Passion. For God's sake the phone is different from all other snapdragon phones.The display, the drivers etc are different. Also please stop keeping the source of your edited files to yourself, if you open source them, they can be improved upon and HD2 can be made faster and better device. Also developers thing beyond overclocking. There are other things HD2 needs in the kernel. If you waste your energy in just overclocking then i would say its pretty dumb. Just a kind request to everyone. Your device is htcleo/leo not bravo/passion/supersonic. They are similar but not same. use htcleo as device name in build, init rather than bravo/passion/supersonic. Your device isnt a mix of device anymore, its a different device that stands apart

im not a dev but ... yes , is time when all work must be unified.

+1 on this.
All devs should work together and share their results.

Bump.
This thread needs to be looked at and acknowledged. Charansingh is trying hard to get our device working to its best possible method and not just patch everything constantly. If some kernel developers (Tytung, rafpigna, iamgpc, etc.) set up conversations with charansingh, I'm pretty sure all outstanding issues could be worked on and we could even fix issues we didn't know we had. Come on, devs! Work together to bring our HD2s to truly compete with android devices out there as a native solution!

Definitely worth a bump

Super bump. Seems like a lot of these roms are sort of half-baked ports of other devices. It's extremely difficult to find a stable rom to use as a daily driver. Coming from the Nexus One, the difference in rom development is staggering. If you go to the Nexus forum you can find tons of stable, fully functional roms optimized for the Nexus. I still haven't found a rom that's come close to the usability, speed, and stability of those for the Nexus. I don't mean to knock t he devs on the board, because they do great work, but I think the HD2 has the potential to be amazing.
Just my 2 cents.

rottenjello138 said:
Super bump. Seems like a lot of these roms are sort of half-baked ports of other devices. It's extremely difficult to find a stable rom to use as a daily driver. Coming from the Nexus One, the difference in rom development is staggering. If you go to the Nexus forum you can find tons of stable, fully functional roms optimized for the Nexus. I still haven't found a rom that's come close to the usability, speed, and stability of those for the Nexus. I don't mean to knock t he devs on the board, because they do great work, but I think the HD2 has the potential to be amazing.
Just my 2 cents.
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The Nexus is a native Android device. Of course the ROM development will be different. It's a miracle we have Android on the HD2 at all. It was always going to be a painful development process. That said, wise words from charnsingh.
Keep rocking, Devs.

I'm not a dev, and this topic is not addressed to me but I think you should correct the name of the thread to "A request to All developers' except Pongster. Perhaps not only Pongster but I'm sure that He uses the real name our phone in bulid.prop for example and His bulid's it's not just a port from Bravo, Evo etc, etc. Correct me if i'm wrong.

mzebrowski13 said:
I'm not a dev, and this topic is not addressed to me but I think you should correct the name of the thread to "A request to All developers' except Pongster. Perhaps not only Pongster but I'm sure that He uses the real name our phone in bulid.prop for example and His bulid's it's not just a port from Bravo, Evo etc, etc. Correct me if i'm wrong.
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if you read craefully pongster thread,his build still use desire base..from source of desire

ardianz said:
if you read craefully pongster thread,his build still use desire base..from source of desire
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Hhhmmm I don't want to be a Pongster lawyer And I hope that HE will not feel offended but let me quote some parts of tread Hyperdroid CM7
Drawing inspiration from the Desire AOSP based Custom ROMs
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Again, THIS is NOT a PORT... its Completely Built FROM SOURCE, Fully Optimized and Tweaked for the HD2!
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ardianz said:
if you read craefully pongster thread,his build still use desire base..from source of desire
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The source is built from the following: Base is Pure AOSP, Framework Tweaks and Settings is Redux, Cool Features & Functions from CyanogenMod.
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from the gbx thread.

ardianz said:
if you read craefully pongster thread,his build still use desire base..from source of desire
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Have you bothered checking the source I use? and the device specific stuff by charan for the HD2 in there? I don't use the desire base. The source of the ROM is something any device can use, given the right kernel and proprietary libs the device may need. Just like CM7 is not just for the HD2, but for a myriad of different devices, the source can be used by anyone with the right device specific stuff.
In my ROM, I use the device specific stuff that charan has done for CM7 HD2 (with a few edits for GBX overlays and HD2 specific Settings).
Like charan has mentioned, most of what we currently have here (ROMs) are ports/kangs from other devices. In fact my old SD build was one of them.
His hard work paved the way for a device specific ROM, that being the CM7 RC's he builds (and you can build, which I also do for testing, from source) and the GBX I build now. If you take the source and add the device specific stuff (drivers, ramdisk, kernel, libs) you can build a ROM for other devices using the the device specific stuff available in the CM7 git. (Desire HD, Nexus One, etc. can be built using the source on Git)
As I understand it, from my limited knowledge on this, the device specific stuff is where the difference lies, from the 2D and 3D drivers, to the overlays for every device, down to the kernel for each device.
I don't know much about the kernel development at this point and how we came about using what we do now, but there is definitely room for improvement and we're lucky to have charan, tytung and the rest of the HD2 devs to help us out in this regard.

pongster said:
I don't know much about the kernel development at this point and how we came about using what we do now, but there is definitely room for improvement and we're lucky to have charan, tytung and the rest of the HD2 devs to help us out in this regard.
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Well said pongster
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Hes right,we have to treat our HD2 like a native android device otherwise were not gonna advance that far if we treat it like anougher device.Our HD2s are amazing so lets advance and be happy

I'm in no way a dev, but its great to see common sense prevailing. I wish I had more time to get my head into these ROM's/kernal's etc but I don't. And I for one am eternally grateful for all the hard work done on this site to keep the likes of me interested in the HD2. It's a crackin phone, lets keep it that way!

i agree with you in lots of things but some roms just have to be ported.
htc won´t release a sense build for the hd2 or just a rom to get ported.
guys that want sense just need a ported rom.
and sorry buti dont´t think this is right in the development section.
maybe you should contact them on irc

I agree it would be nice if everything was done just for the LEO, but Im not going to say anything bad about Typoon his ports rock, are uber stable, and anything but half baked.

The reason why the bravo/passion base is used is:
a) Some apps only show up on the android market for known official Android devices. The LEO is not an official Android device.
b) There's no official/main AOSP/CM7 repository with LEO specific changes in them.
EDIT: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_htc_leo I guess this can be the closest thing to official.
c) In terms of compatibility, the bravo is the hardware closest to our own hardware. Yes there ARE differences which is expected. We do not have a ROM designed for our own hardware that we can refer to.
d) Sense ROM's aren't open source.
I completely agree on the overclocking front. We need improvements in kernel, not just kicking up the CPU clock-speed.
Yes, sources should be shared, however, chefs tend to keep changes to themselves. This is an issue.
In my opinion, an 'official' AOSP/CM7 ROM/repository would be ideal.
That said, I can't think of any bugs/issues now with bravo/passion based ROM's Most issues stem from using ROM's from other devices/chipsets. I'm personally happy with GingerBread based on Passion sources!

DarkStone1337 said:
The reason why the bravo/passion base is used is:
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a) Some apps only show up on the android market for known official Android devices. The LEO is not an official Android device.
Fixed- We only need to change the fingerprint of the build, same is done for bravo etc using passion fingerprint for gingerbread
b) There's no official/main AOSP/CM7 repository with LEO specific changes in them.
EDIT: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_htc_leo I guess this can be the closest thing to official.
Fixed - It works
c) In terms of compatibility, the bravo is the hardware closest to our own hardware. Yes there ARE differences which is expected. We do not have a ROM designed for our own hardware that we can refer to.
Fixed - The CM7 nightlies and RC i am compiling.
d) Sense ROM's aren't open source.
Fixed - For sense Roms it isnt an option
I completely agree on the overclocking front. We need improvements in kernel, not just kicking up the CPU clock-speed.
Yes, sources should be shared, however, chefs tend to keep changes to themselves. This is an issue.
In my opinion, an 'official' AOSP/CM7 ROM/repository would be ideal. It is there lol
That said, I can't think of any bugs/issues now with bravo/passion based ROM's Most issues stem from using ROM's from other devices/chipsets. I'm personally happy with GingerBread based on Passion sources!

i am not a dev but there are some roms in this forum that we must give credit to as not being half baked like motomans mytouch rom everything work on it and it is very snappy and responsive also typhoons rom is really good too i can see from there rom that there are those who really treat hd2 like a really android phone

AOKP(Android Open Kang Project)

hi everyone,
As you see the topic its about AOKP team which they have a new version of ICS porting method. First they started moding the devices like Nexus-S and Galaxy nexus. After succeding they came up with other new devices and ported ICS base rom to other devices such as HTC, Xoom,Galaxy Tab.Today i talked to Roman the Dev guy from this team about our beloved TF.Unfortunately he said they wont port this rom to TF. I just started this thread to ask this team for porting this rom. I think if they see our requests they might put their efforts to make it work on our devices. Im currently using build 23 of this rom on my Nexus-s.it comes with lots og built in features.
here is the link for the website.Head over it might be interesting for you.
http://aokp.co
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You said yourself they already said no. Respect their decision and leave them alone; if you don't like the decision you can port it yourself.
From their point of view, I can see why they said no. We will--eventually, one day--get an update from Asus themselves, which will satisfy 99% of users. The remaining 1% will get mods based on the Asus stock roms, just like they do now. There's also already a partially completed port underway by somebody else.
Why would they waste their resources on the TF101 when there are plenty of other devices that have no ICS port, and no chance of getting one from their manufacturer, which they could work on?

Actually, the correct guy to ask for a port is this guy @ProTekkFZS . He recently went on a spree porting aokp to many devices. Roman only port to devices that he is currently using which are gal nexus, nexus s and gal tab.
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if they dont want to port it got to respect that decision but if they would i would be sooooo happy a really great rom would use it

roman recieved a htc sensation from rootzwiki and he hasnt even ported it there yet so i wouldnt hold my breath dude... although it would be epic...
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there is a plan for cm this is nothing compared to that and then there will be miui

pashinator said:
there is a plan for cm this is nothing compared to that and then there will be miui
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1, MIUI won't come to tablets until Xiaomi makes a tablet UI version
2, CM is nowhere yet for the TF
3, Currently AOKP provides more control and access to things than CM. It was stated Cyanogen by himself that CM9 will NOT contain the old CMParts style settings, but rather have them in their respective submenus. AOKP goes on the CM7 way, having a separate app what can switch controls on-off. I'm already using it on my phone (ZTE Blade), and it's currently more stable than CM or even an AOSP build.

fonix232 said:
1, MIUI won't come to tablets until Xiaomi makes a tablet UI version
2, CM is nowhere yet for the TF
3, Currently AOKP provides more control and access to things than CM. It was stated Cyanogen by himself that CM9 will NOT contain the old CMParts style settings, but rather have them in their respective submenus. AOKP goes on the CM7 way, having a separate app what can switch controls on-off. I'm already using it on my phone (ZTE Blade), and it's currently more stable than CM or even an AOSP build.
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1, Miui for tablets could become a reality without Xiaomi since they decided recently to change their code in Open source...so maybe one day
2, not yet, sure, even if CM has already talked about TF cm9 to come
3, here i think it really depends on the phone : with my Nexus S, aokp is pretty stable and smooth, but not as some other aosp (Pete Alfonso's) or CM (fitsnugly's kangs) for example.
Let's first get next Paul's builds, Asus's release then, and CM9 eventually.....at this point we all should be Fulfilled.

kptnk said:
1, Miui for tablets could become a reality without Xiaomi since they decided recently to change their code in Open source...so maybe one day
2, not yet, sure, even if CM has already talked about TF cm9 to come
3, here i think it really depends on the phone : with my Nexus S, aokp is pretty stable and smooth, but not as some other aosp (Pete Alfonso's) or CM (fitsnugly's kangs) for example.
Let's first get next Paul's builds, Asus's release then, and CM9 eventually.....at this point we all should be Fulfilled.
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1. First of all, they haven't gone totally open source yet. And to include a tablet overlay, that would be a huge work. Not just graphics, but compatibility, screen issues, alignments, and such.
2. There will be a CM9 build, but only after CM9 is stable enough, and Asus released theirs so Bumble-Bee, RaYmAn, Roach, and the others can make a working one. So no CM9 for now
3. Yes it depends on that too, but show me any point of CM9 having more feature than AOKP. AOKP derives directly from CM9 sources, with the additional apps and features, plus fixes. So I consider it more mature.
Paul already published his sources for the TF, so we could easily grab his tree, change some stuff for AOKP, and make a build. I don't have quite the PC for such building processes, it would take days, and my electricity bill is already over the limit - so I can't do it definitely. But if there's someone else willing, everything can be made

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1. First of all, they haven't gone totally open source yet. And to include a tablet overlay, that would be a huge work. Not just graphics, but compatibility, screen issues, alignments, and such.
2. There will be a CM9 build, but only after CM9 is stable enough, and Asus released theirs so Bumble-Bee, RaYmAn, Roach, and the others can make a working one. So no CM9 for now
3. Yes it depends on that too, but show me any point of CM9 having more feature than AOKP. AOKP derives directly from CM9 sources, with the additional apps and features, plus fixes. So I consider it more mature.
Paul already published his sources for the TF, so we could easily grab his tree, change some stuff for AOKP, and make a build. I don't have quite the PC for such building processes, it would take days, and my electricity bill is already over the limit - so I can't do it definitely. But if there's someone else willing, everything can be made
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1 & 2, i agree, that's sure.
3, aokp has indeed for now more features than cm9 and kept cm7 idea with nominated menu, which is more than rich of full customization possibilities. My point was in fact on the stability, efficiency and smoothness : there are, for nexus s at least, aosp roms and some cm9 builds which are better than aokp. So not in terms of "quantity" but of a certain idea of quality. Certain idea, because it is of course a question of point of view. That said, i love Roman's work.
I wish i could build on Paul's and Roman's sources for our beloved TF, but even if my electricity bill could eventuelly bear it (for a time), i have neither the pc, nor the knowledge to do so, which is worse .....here's just a very greatful and curious user....

AOSP Roms vs NO AOSP

What is the Difference between an AOSP experience ROM and a NO AOSP ROM?
Also what is the difference between the : Android Develoment Forum and the ORIGINAL FORUM?

Hey
AOSP ROMs are Android Open Source Project Roms, so they don't have any of the HTC Sense, Touchwiz, Motoblur bullcrap (IMO) on them and are pretty much a pure google experience e.g similair to the stock firmware on a galaxy nexus/nexus 7 but most are tweaked e.g CM gives you additional mods and things
And for the second question. I think this post explains it better than i can
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219612

dinesh690 said:
Hey
AOSP ROMs are Android Open Source Project Roms, so they don't have any of the HTC Sense, Touchwiz, Motoblur bullcrap (IMO) on them and are pretty much a pure google experience e.g similair to the stock firmware on a galaxy nexus/nexus 7 but most are tweaked e.g CM gives you additional mods and things
And for the second question. I think this post explains it better than i can
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219612
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Thank you , you amazed me with the difference of the 2 forums, ( that was the best EXPLANATION I have ever encounter):highfive:

I thought that nexus devices are aosp!?
There are no ASUS additions!?

Cetin said:
I thought that nexus devices are aosp!?
There are no ASUS additions!?
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Asus didn't add anything significant to the Nexus 7. They add a few apps to their transformer series tablets and tweak the UI a little, but it's pretty close to stock as well when comparing to what Samsung and HTC do. I will only buy Asus or Nexus brand in the future because of this.

Tbh im just going for google only phones even if asus is close to vanilla from now on, don't care about how vanilla it is because most popular phones have atleast Cyanagonmod ROMS for that but I just want fast updates, good dev community and easy unlocking unlike s-off and all this other crap which is a pain in the ass

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Asus didn't add anything significant to the Nexus 7. They add a few apps to their transformer series tablets and tweak the UI a little, but it's pretty close to stock as well when comparing to what Samsung and HTC do. I will only buy Asus or Nexus brand in the future because of this.
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That's why I don't understand why we have android development here too? It's all original here.

Cetin said:
That's why I don't understand why we have android development here too? It's all original here.
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well, there are multiple ways you can do ROMS:
1. "I downloaded source from google.com and just hit compile without any changes whatsoever (aside from whatever was needed to get it working, like drivers etc)."
2. "Long time ago I had downloaded from google.com, but since then i have added MANY MANY of my own cool changes (like `long press volume to skip to next song'), of course I make sure i pull in whatever latest changes google made to their source too"
3. "there were 2 or 3 ROMs from the above 2 that i liked and i combined them"
#1 is `AOSP',
#2 is `NO AOSP', the person making these "drastic changes" can be HTC (in the case of senseui) or just some dude/team of dudes (in the case of CyanogenMod). This is basically `original work', in the sense that, aside from google's source which i obviously must have taken from, a lot of the stuff is my own. CyanogenMod for instance has immense amount of changes, not sure how it works, but just consider that JB for CyanogenMod is not even beta yet, even though google has stable JB obviously. Meaning their changes are so immense that they had to start from scratch and do all the cool changes to the new JB source (or smthg to that effect).
#3 is regular 'non original' roms, since there is very little 'originality' in these roms. CAn be anything from "All im doing is compiling CM10 and putting it up, although im not officially CM" to "I just added some cool stuff from CM to AOSP and compiled it".
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I'm unsure as to the line between #2 and #3 ofc, it can get a little confusing/fuzzy at times.

[Q]Most popular and stable custom ROM

I just got my phone couple of days ago, and today had the time to root it. Which is the most popular ROM for this device ?Is it worth to flash a custom ROM ?I mean for someone who needs a stable build ?Can you recommend something ?
Regards!

Cm10.1
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i might be wrong, but is there a stable version of cm10.1 ?

rootkited said:
i might be wrong, but is there a stable version of cm10.1 ?
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As of now, no there is not.
CM 10 is generally the most popular ROM. But when you're here, paranoidandroid is the most popular ROM.
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scream4cheese said:
As of now, no there is not.
CM 10 is generally the most popular ROM. But while you're here, paranoidandroid is the most popular ROM.
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CyanogenMod is always going to be the most stable custom ROM as long as you use the stable releases, simply because it's the most actively attended to and tested one. MIUI, Paranoid Android and Slim Bean come next and have their own perks, but they're just not on the same level.

Glaux said:
CyanogenMod is always going to be the most stable custom ROM as long as you use the stable releases, simply because it's the most actively attended to and tested one. MIUI, Paranoid Android and Slim Bean come next and have their own perks, but they're just not on the same level.
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ok, since there is no stable version of CM10, and I am not so into paranoidandroid, I guess the stock ROM is my only choice...Any custom kernel which works better with the stock ROM ?Without overclocking...I have 1800+ benchmark points in Antutu...Do you recommend smthing else ?

rootkited said:
ok, since there is no stable version of CM10, and I am not so into paranoidandroid, I guess the stock ROM is my only choice...Any custom kernel which works better with the stock ROM ?Without overclocking...I have 1800+ benchmark points in Antutu...Do you recommend smthing else ?
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come on my friend...don't hesitate... you got yourself a nexus 4..! it is made for fhashing such things as roms,kernels etc...! try the latest nightly of cm10.1 and i promise you that you will hardly find any bug..! and remember its android..you are absolutely free...!

Mr_Comple said:
come on my friend...don't hesitate... you got yourself a nexus 4..! it is made for fhashing such things as roms,kernels etc...! try the latest nightly of cm10.1 and i promise you that you will hardly find any bug..! and remember its android..you are absolutely free...!
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well, ok, i will flash it right now the flashing season is starting again ))

rootkited said:
well, ok, i will flash it right now the flashing season is starting again ))
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there you go...! here is my suggestion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2098655
try this rom...

Mr_Comple said:
there you go...! here is my suggestion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2098655
try this rom...
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thanks, downloading and flashing !Feedback asap

Glaux said:
CyanogenMod is always going to be the most stable custom ROM as long as you use the stable releases, simply because it's the most actively attended to and tested one. MIUI, Paranoid Android and Slim Bean come next and have their own perks, but they're just not on the same level.
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not really,
other roms base on the most stable rom in existance, google android, aosp. cm must take this base and make it possible for old, incompatible devices to get their share. thats only possible by extending the living heck out of it. some of it is overlaid, some is not. errors come in naturally, that just happens when you leave the safe path of aosp, hundreds of commits going through gerrit stemming from all kinds of sources. dont get me wrong, cm is an amazing project. but it cant provide the same stability that aosp based roms provide, the same speed and level of customization.
as a developer i can tell you that the software i get from google is flawless, they support me with functioning drivers and blobs, documentation and guidelines. i can literally forget about everything else and go wild, extend and create new stuff that wasnt there before. i will never run into the myriads of problems the cm team is uncovering in their crusade of introducing android to legacy devices - and that in my opinion is their true power.
pps- i see you included MIUI as well. think again. guess which is the worlds biggest rom with millions and millions of users. miui. guess whos the only rom that has on ounce of design credibility. miui. they have done things in their freetime that rival professional products and you can be sure a matias duarte will not go to xda when he's out of ideas, he's taking note when miui drops a release instead. i think you are greatly underestimating them.

molesarecoming said:
not really,
other roms use aosp, that means they base on the most stable rom in existance, google android. cm must take this base and make it possible for old devices to get their share. thats only possible by extending the living heck out of it. some of it is overlaid, some is not. as long as i was basing on cm there were errors, day after day after day. at some point i became so upset with it that i abandoned the base. if you take a look in their thread you see what i mean. last week it was gps, todays week you cant use the camera, tomorrow its something else. its not their fault, that just happens when hundreds of commits go through their gerrit - you cant possibly evaluate it, thats why release candidates usually arrive when the android version is already outdated.
dont get me wrong, cm is an amazing project. but the reason it traditionally takes a backseat on nexus plattforms is that it cant provide the same stability that aosp based roms provide. it cant provide the same speed and it cant provide the same level of customization. on all other plattforms cm is the unrivaled king, that is true.
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so, which in your opinion is the one to replace stock rom ?

rootkited said:
so, which in your opinion is the one to replace stock rom ?
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Hi,
PARANOIDANDROID
Just kidding... , that said this is a great rom and very very very popular (as your thread title suggests)...

rootkited said:
so, which in your opinion is the one to replace stock rom ?
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thats up to you. try rasbeanjelly, aokp, carbon, liquid, xylon, minco, whatever you want. try cm. they all are unique in one way or another. im not commenting on what you should flash, you'll see what suits you best. i am commenting on the assumption that cm is stable and everything else is less stable which is complete and utter bullsh1t. :laugh:

viking37 said:
Hi,
PARANOIDANDROID
Just kidding... , that said this is a great rom and very very very popular (as your thread title suggests)...
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lol, took me a while to see it

rootkited said:
so, which in your opinion is the one to replace stock rom ?
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paranoid android, just put all the apps back in phone mode and its basically a stock rom with added speed and a few more customizations. plus i like the kernel colors and the custom app colors, very well done
xylon is also great but not personally my favorite, has many customizations and is much like aokp with its own feel
Codefire-X is also one of the most stable and speedy roms out, it and PA are probably my favorite roms right now, and i feel bad its often overlooked, its like aokp with a more stockish feel but faster and stabler at this point
theres also Carbon rom which is made by a few the awesome liquid rom developers, havent tried yet but looks good
Saber Mod looks cool too with its linaro optimizations but as with carbon i havent had time to try it out
there are also some interesting roms like PAC and Rootbox, but those dont really sound like they would appeal to you as much
also keep in mind i mostly prefer the roms in original android development because of the general cleaner feel, but many of the roms in normal android development are also good if you want a bit of a different feel or special tweaks
but whatever you choose, just dont stay on stock you wont regret going with any of these roms over stock

I'm using MMuzzy rom now for some days and is realy good. Is aosp with some optional features i miss in stock rom. I combine it with Trinity four kernel and for now no problems with that combination.
Never like CM or aokp...to much features and never work without problems.
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mbucks911 said:
paranoid android, just put all the apps back in phone mode and its basically a stock rom with added speed and a few more customizations. plus i like the kernel colors and the custom app colors, very well done
xylon is also great but not personally my favorite, has many customizations and is much like aokp with its own feel
Codefire-X is also one of the most stable and speedy roms out, it and PA are probably my favorite roms right now, and i feel bad its often overlooked, its like aokp with a more stockish feel but faster and stabler at this point
theres also Carbon rom which is made by a few the awesome liquid rom developers, havent tried yet but looks good
Saber Mod looks cool too with its linaro optimizations but as with carbon i havent had time to try it out
there are also some interesting roms like PAC and Rootbox, but those dont really sound like they would appeal to you as much
also keep in mind i mostly prefer the roms in original android development because of the general cleaner feel, but many of the roms in normal android development are also good if you want a bit of a different feel or special tweaks
but whatever you choose, just dont stay on stock you wont regret going with any of these roms over stock
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thanks a lot for the review...i've tried the PA ROM and it just ain't my thang....I will try some other releases

rasbean jelly, fast and stable.