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Seems to be a lot of confusion whether the octa-core version will have LTE so if anyone could advise that would be much appreciated and for reference the qualcomm S600 definitely has LTE.
i have read that octa dont have lte in usa because qualcomm has patents on lte chips in there..
kikisp said:
i have read that octa dont have lte in usa because qualcomm has patents on lte chips in there..
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If that were the case they should still be able to licence under FRAND, since it's a standards essential patent, right? If not, that's quite a monopoly on the US LTE market. Plus, what would that mean for Tegra4 devices? At any rate, I'm so sick of hearing about patents in the consumer electronics (specifially smartphones) sector. It's out of hand and needs dealth with properly.
Might of found the answer.
http://www.androidauthority.com/international-samsung-galaxy-s4-fcc-lte-172224/
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Might of found the answer.
http://www.androidauthority.com/international-samsung-galaxy-s4-fcc-lte-172224/
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BUT, I don't think that band 5 is used by anyone here in the US. Band 5 is used by Philipines/S.Korea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
Just to clarify, International S4's will have LTE.
US ones have quad core snapdragons probably just for supply issues, like last year (the Note 2 is exynos, quadcore (same processor as the S3) and had LTE).
Skander1998 said:
Just to clarify, International S4's will have LTE.
US ones have quad core snapdragons probably just for supply issues, like last year (the Note 2 is exynos, quadcore (same processor as the S3) and had LTE).
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I heard rumours that the octa-core international one bound for the UK would be 3G only and only the quad core S600 would have LTE enabled which seemed very odd to me.
daleski75 said:
I heard rumours that the octa-core international one bound for the UK would be 3G only and only the quad core S600 would have LTE enabled which seemed very odd to me.
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I am pretty sure they will all be LTE enabled, we will wait and see.
i cant imagine them releasing a phone thats not LTE in the states.....that would be the worst move in the history of phones....
Germany will get the 600 too. Apparently all the markets that have 4G LTE won't get the octa.
In Indonesia get octa and 600 and the news says that both of them get LTE :screwy::screwy:
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Skander1998 said:
Just to clarify, International S4's will have LTE.
US ones have quad core snapdragons probably just for supply issues, like last year (the Note 2 is exynos, quadcore (same processor as the S3) and had LTE).
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Just because it HAS LTE, doesn't mean it's the RIGHT LTE bands. Keep that in mind. Also, Note 2 does not have a 5 series processor.... It's an A9, not A15....
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Germany will get the 600 too. Apparently all the markets that have 4G LTE won't get the octa.
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Do you have any link or proof for that?
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Do you have any link or proof for that?
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I got the info from this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39172596&postcount=2765
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But there was some confusion about wich version we would get here in Scandinavia so NordicHardware got in touch with Samsung and the answer was that all LTE versions will use Snapdragon S600 and the 3G versions will use Exynos 5410. But they wont be releasing the 3G version here since everyone has moved onto LTE, im assuming the situation will be similar in other parts of Europe aswell
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Looks bad for the Exynos.
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Looks bad for the Exynos.
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So, who will be getting exynos? What's the point 3g version have only exynos?
I want Exynos. Here we got LTE for 4 towns buts its not covered all. Beside that they are charging to enable LTE 5-10€ and giving you 1GB LTE speed, after that 64kb rofl
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So, who will be getting exynos? What's the point 3g version have only exynos?
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Exynos Octa (GT- I9500 3G support) international
Snapdragon 600 (GT - I9505 4G support)
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Exynos Octa (GT- I9500 3G support) international
Snapdragon 600 (GT - I9505 4G support)
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I thought all models would have 4G now ._.
I don't get how the largest electronics company in the world cannot work out how to make 4G support for their main smart phone chip. Like it's the biggest failure about this phone, the only reason why I wanted it was for the Exynos 5 + the 544 but instead now we get the Snapdragon with the Adreno 320. Basically it has the same internals as every other frigging phone out there and I bet they'll be cheaper too like the HTC One has no up front cost.
It's just made me got "forget the GS4" not only did it look no different to the GS3 but the internals are a let down too because Samsung doesn't have 4G support for Exynos. At this point I'm just going to end my contract, go on a month by month contract as it's only £12 for unlimited data what I'm paying £40 a month for now. Then I'm just going to wait it out for something better, hopefully Nokia do a 41mp Windows Phone or something actually interesting rather than these lack luster phones we've had so far this year.
I was gonna upgrade but no Exynos 5 + 4G = no sale.
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I don't get how the largest electronics company in the world cannot work out how to make 4G support for their main smart phone chip. Like it's the biggest failure about this phone, the only reason why I wanted it was for the Exynos 5 + the 544 but instead now we get the Snapdragon with the Adreno 320. Basically it has the same internals as every other frigging phone out there and I bet they'll be cheaper too like the HTC One has no up front cost.
It's just made me got "forget the GS4" not only did it look no different to the GS3 but the internals are a let down too because Samsung doesn't have 4G support for Exynos. At this point I'm just going to end my contract, go on a month by month contract as it's only £12 for unlimited data what I'm paying £40 a month for now. Then I'm just going to wait it out for something better, hopefully Nokia do a 41mp Windows Phone or something actually interesting rather than these lack luster phones we've had so far this year.
I was gonna upgrade but no Exynos 5 + 4G = no sale.
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Using a seperate radio and SoC consumes more battery, and LTE already consumers more battery. The N2 has a gigantic battery which is why it was released with Exynos. With 40 different LTE bands a different radio has to be used depending on the market which also makes developing and supporting the s/w a pain in the ass.
This is coming out mid-year and should allow multiband LTE-capable devices to be built and sold just like HSPA devices have been in the past. Samung's already said they plan on using it.
http://www.qualcomm.com/media/relea...olution-enables-single-global-lte-design-next
Thing is if that comes out later in the year, at that point I might as well just see what Nokia or Apple do and possible Google will have the Nexus 5 by then. It's just not good enough really and I have my upgrade now from my GS2 like loads of other people who got one in 2011.
What are u talking about the upgrade is HUGE
www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-vs-samsung-galaxy-s3-169204/
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The Exynos supports LTE so the whole question you're posing is loaded with misinformation.
The question you should be asking why Samsung decided to pair it up with the Qualcomm instead; that has some more meaningful answers and hypothesises:
- The Octa is not ready for mass-production in the quantity so to satisfy the demand for the biggest flagship phone on the market right now.
- Because of the above, they chose to multi-source the SoC.
- Because the LTE models are supposedly globally multi-band it is easier to engineer only two models.
- Why did they even release it as such - that's what most people are angry about; it sucks for the enthusiasts but it makes perfect sense from a business perspective. Release it early so to catch as many users as possible who would be otherwise tempted by the HTC One or the Z.
And who says that we won't get a refresh with Exynos and LTE.
Using a seperate radio and SoC consumes more battery, and LTE already consumers more battery.
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That argument is useless here. The Snapdragon 600 doesn't have an integrated modem so they still need a separate LTE chip. And also proven by demonstration by the many new LTE devices which separate chip (Note 2, i9305, One), the battery argument is again something which seemed to be pulled out of thin air last year.
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The Exynos supports LTE so the whole question you're posing is loaded with misinformation.
The question you should be asking why Samsung decided to pair it up with the Qualcomm instead; that has some more meaningful answers and hypothesises:
- The Octa is not ready for mass-production in the quantity so to satisfy the demand for the biggest flagship phone on the market right now.
- Because of the above, they chose to multi-source the SoC.
- Because the LTE models are supposedly globally multi-band it is easier to engineer only two models.
- Why did they even release it as such - that's what most people are angry about; it sucks for the enthusiasts but it makes perfect sense from a business perspective. Release it early so to catch as many users as possible who would be otherwise tempted by the HTC One or the Z.
And who says that we won't get a refresh with Exynos and LTE.
That argument is useless here. The Snapdragon 600 doesn't have an integrated modem so they still need a separate LTE chip. And also proven by demonstration by the many new LTE devices which separate chip (Note 2, i9305, One), the battery argument is again something which seemed to be pulled out of thin air last year.
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It's unlikely we will get a refresh with Exynos + LTE. Even the Korean LTE versions are Snapdragon-based.
We might see them earliest in Note 3.
Livebyte said:
It's unlikely we will get a refresh with Exynos + LTE. Even the Korean LTE versions are Snapdragon-based.
We might see them earliest in Note 3.
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It's up to Samsung.
Japan also got a refresh and was in the same situation; original release was the Qualcomm S3, then they got the S3 Alpha which is basically an i9305 with the Note 2 Exynos revision. T-Mobile are also adopting their M3 (i9305) variant.
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The Octa is not ready for mass-production in the quantity so to satisfy the demand for the biggest flagship phone on the market right now.
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Wild ass guess.
Because of the above, they chose to multi-source the SoC.
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They used Exynos 4 in tablets last year so they had plenty and still multi-sourced.
Because the LTE models are supposedly globally multi-band it is easier to engineer only two models.
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Until the RF360 comes out LTE radios are hardware limited as to the bands they support so there are multiple radio configurations based on where the device is to be sold or used.
Release it early so to catch as many users as possible
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Wild ass guess. How many mainstream users know what an Octa or Snapdragon is and would care if they did?
And who says that we won't get a refresh with Exynos and LTE.
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A wild ass guess I'd agree with based on it driving more profit for Samsung by using their own SoC.
That argument is useless here. The Snapdragon 600 doesn't have an integrated modem so they still need a separate LTE chip. And also proven by demonstration by the many new LTE devices which separate chip (Note 2, i9305, One), the battery argument is against something which seemed to be pulled out of thin air last year.
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Why did Samsung deploy the N2 with Exynos/LTE and not the SGS3?
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Why did Samsung deploy the N2 with Exynos/LTE and not the SGS3?
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Qualcomm didn't start offering a standalone LTE+GSM combo solution until late 2012 as far as I know. And Samsung did eventually offer an Exynos+LTE SGS3 with the I9305, which was released in fall 2012.
I suspect the Exynos vs. Qualcomm difference has nothing to do with LTE but is for some other reason, as others have said, the Snapdragon variants are not using one of the Qualcomms with integrated baseband, but one of the standalone modem chipsets (like the Xperia Z and Nexus 4 do... And in fact I think every quad-Krait device on the market is using an APQ with an external modem chipset.) Probably production rampup is one of the issues, also, the Exynos5 "Octa" is not by any means a proven platform, so Samsung might be sticking with a more proven base for the majority of their devices.
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Until the RF360 comes out LTE radios are hardware limited as to the bands they support so there are multiple radio configurations based on where the device is to be sold or used.
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I think you're massively mistaking amplifiers and actual modems. The modems are identical on all models since they're compatible with everything. The Note 2 LTE variants are globally the same thing and the only difference are the antennas and amplifiers.
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They used Exynos 4 in tablets last year so they had plenty and still multi-sourced.
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Why did Samsung deploy the N2 with Exynos/LTE and not the SGS3?
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"Last year" encompasses a period of 12 months, so please think a bit before doing such arguments. The S3 was launched on May 29th while the second device to have the Exynos was the Galaxy Note 10.1 in mid-August. That's already a 3-month period between devices and in manufacturing terms, that's an eternity. Furthermore you're comparing a device in double-digit million sales within the first two months to a tablet which basically nobody bought.
Furthermore they did not release it with LTE because at the time there wasn't any discrete modem available and only Qualcomm's MSM offered LTE capability. This is the same reason the Tegra 3 One X never came out in the LTE enabled countries, they were in exactly the same situation. The Note 2 (And i9305) came out with the Exynos + Qualcomm because the MDM9215 was specifically available as a discrete chip by that time.
Also please refrain from calling things wild ass guesses when your own claims are even more uninformed.
Check this:
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/data/competitive.pdf
BTW, does s600 have integrated LTE? I believe not.
I recall the model name was APQ***
s800 is supposed to have integrated LTE.
hot_spare said:
Check this:
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/data/competitive.pdf
BTW, does s600 have integrated LTE? I believe not.
I recall the model name was APQ***
s800 is supposed to have integrated LTE.
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No, the 600 being included in the GS4 is an APQ - which means no integrated baseband.
While there are quad Kraits with integrated modem on Qualcomm's roadmap, they are quite rare. As in I have yet to see a quad-Krait device that wasn't an APQ.
Could be related to the yield issues mentioned in the PDF above.
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The Exynos supports LTE so the whole question you're posing is loaded with misinformation.
The question you should be asking why Samsung decided to pair it up with the Qualcomm instead; that has some more meaningful answers and hypothesises:
- The Octa is not ready for mass-production in the quantity so to satisfy the demand for the biggest flagship phone on the market right now.
- Because of the above, they chose to multi-source the SoC.
- Because the LTE models are supposedly globally multi-band it is easier to engineer only two models.
- Why did they even release it as such - that's what most people are angry about; it sucks for the enthusiasts but it makes perfect sense from a business perspective. Release it early so to catch as many users as possible who would be otherwise tempted by the HTC One or the Z.
And who says that we won't get a refresh with Exynos and LTE.
That argument is useless here. The Snapdragon 600 doesn't have an integrated modem so they still need a separate LTE chip. And also proven by demonstration by the many new LTE devices which separate chip (Note 2, i9305, One), the battery argument is again something which seemed to be pulled out of thin air last year.
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Can you give more information on which LTE bands exynos supports?
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Can you give more information on which LTE bands exynos supports?
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Exynos4 and Exynos5 don't support ANY LTE bands directly. In fact they don't have built in wireless capability of any form. Neither does the Snapdragon 600 that is going to be sold in the GS4, neither does the APQ8064 used in many current Qualcomm quad-Krait devices.
All of the above depend on an external modem chipset, in almost all cases for LTE devices Qualcomm MDM9x15 or MDM9x25. Band support is determined by the RF frontend chipset (Qualcomm WTR1605L in all cases probably) and what bands the manufacturer added RF frontend filters for.
There is nothing that prevents a MDM9x15 or 9x25 from being hung off of an Exynos4 or Exynos5 (in fact, that's what was done for LTE Note2 variants).
The misconception that "this or that CPU doesn't support LTE" comes from the early days of LTE when the only multiband multimode modem was Qualcomm's, and initially Qualcomm only provided it in the form of fully integrated MSM CPU+baseband solutions. But since Qualcomm started selling the standalone MDM9615 last fall or so, there's nothing preventing any CPU with HSIC support (which basically any modern CPU has) from having LTE connectivity.
Exynos "Octa" not having LTE almost surely has nothing to do with technical incompatibilities but everything to do with Samsung not wanting to put all of their eggs in one basket with an unproven highly complex processor.
so what will be the better choice ? Snapdragon or Exynos, if both support 4G?
Now if the extnos octa does support lte, which I believe it does just not American frequencies. If it has a Qualcomm radio and its model supports multi band or world radio chip that support everything (forgot model number). Can a different modem enable those lte bands or is it all hardware related??
S4 Exynos 5 import -- 4g works?
Entropy512 said:
Exynos "Octa" not having LTE almost surely has nothing to do with technical incompatibilities but everything to do with Samsung not wanting to put all of their eggs in one basket with an unproven highly complex processor.
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Absolute novice here, so if it's not down to technical reasons would an imported GS4 with the Exynos 5 still actually work with 4G networks, or will it just not work end-of? Would there be any way to mod the phone's firmware to get the 4G supported, or is the failure due to the hardware itself?
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Absolute novice here, so if it's not down to technical reasons would an imported GS4 with the Exynos 5 still actually work with 4G networks, or will it just not work end-of? Would there be any way to mod the phone's firmware to get the 4G supported, or is the failure due to the hardware itself?
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Same question here. Furthermore, I am curious as to why no one else makes LTE modem besides Qualcomm.
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Absolute novice here, so if it's not down to technical reasons would an imported GS4 with the Exynos 5 still actually work with 4G networks, or will it just not work end-of? Would there be any way to mod the phone's firmware to get the 4G supported, or is the failure due to the hardware itself?
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Each device is customized for the bands it will run on. See the Note2 as an example - There are multiple t0lte variants, the N7105, I317 (AT&T), T-Mobile version, Sprint version, Verizon version - Each had RF frontend hardware customized for their target carrier/region. The CPU was the same (Exynos), the modem was the same (MDM9615), the primary RF chipset was the same (WTR1605L I *think*), but the RF frontend filter and switching circuitry was different for each variant, meaning you couldn't just flash an I317 baseband to N7105 and get AT&T LTE support for example.
As to why no one else is making an LTE modem besides Qualcomm - Qualcomm have more experience with these things than any other company. Many of the core principles of communications theory were created by Qualcomm's founders. Principles of Communication Engineering is still considered the Bible of communications theory, written by Wozencraft and Jacobs (Jacobs being one of the founders of Qualcomm, along with Andrew Viterbi, famous for the Viterbi Algorithm.) Same reason Qualcomm was the first company to achieve reasonably power-efficient UMTS baseband chipsets.
Edit: Here's a good read regarding Qualcomm's modems: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6541/the-state-of-qualcomms-modems-wtr1605-and-mdm9x25
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octa core with lte all 20 bands???
go to sammobile and look the new news.
Octacore supports LTE all 20 bands
Why can't Samsung make one chipset that supports for all countries. I don't have a great knowledge in chip designing. But i am always curious to know why different chipsets are needed for LTE. Why Exynos is not compatible with LTE (USA LTE). How is the scenario with iphone, iphone 5 is in India too. Does it have a different chipset from USA's ?
Processer problem? or not
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Why can't Samsung make one chipset that supports for all countries. I don't have a great knowledge in chip designing. But i am always curious to know why different chipsets are needed for LTE. Why Exynos is not compatible with LTE (USA LTE). How is the scenario with iphone, iphone 5 is in India too. Does it have a different chipset from USA's ?
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Well.. I don't think that problem is into Main chipset.
The galaxy s3's Exynos 4412 processer supports LTE. but samsung released by 3G version. I don't know why is itand also, samsung released korean galaxy s4 version by LTE with Exynos again
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Also with Note2 , Samsung launched with One Exynos processer chipset worldwide, same phone, just different modem and radio files.
I thought Samsung did sortout LTE band issue.
But but, Samsung dissapointed me with snapdragon qualcomm chipset in Canada again.
varunkumars said:
Why can't Samsung make one chipset that supports for all countries. I don't have a great knowledge in chip designing. But i am always curious to know why different chipsets are needed for LTE. Why Exynos is not compatible with LTE (USA LTE). How is the scenario with iphone, iphone 5 is in India too. Does it have a different chipset from USA's ?
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I think it s about the Trust from Americans
i m not american but i trust on Snapdragon (from USA) more than Exynos (& Cortex from Korea and UK ...) !!!
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maybe Samsung try to behave WISER in US
step by step and better performance
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Samsung will do the same sh*t with the S4 as they did with the S3.
3 months after releasing the S3 i9300 in Australia they released the S3 4g i9305. Helps boost sales to suckers like me.
This time they'll probably release the i9505 lte snapdragon version then a few months down the track claim they found a way to get 4g working on the Octa and probably release a i9510.
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Was this exynos lte variant released on all the major carriers? More in particular was it released for at&t?
exynos for note 2, im guessing they were able to fit in a LTE chip due to the size of the phone 5.5
since the s4 keeps the s3 form factor, plus almost 1mm thinner, there was no way they couldve included lte with the exynos.
Plus they are having manufacturing issues with the exynos, so by fall when the note 3 launches, it shouldnt be a issue.
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Was this exynos lte variant released on all the major carriers? More in particular was it released for at&t?
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Not sure but I believe in the US they stayed the same dual core models. In some overseas markets where the international model was sold they then introduced the quad core lte model (i9305).
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You guys should search before posting. There is already a thread discussing this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2200796
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Refer to the existing thread cited above.
Which variant of the Galaxy S4 is better?
I have a friend in South Korea who will be able to buy and ship the SHV-E300K Galaxy S4, but it will cost me about $100 in fees to ship it from South Korea to Canada.
According to what I heard, the South Korean model will have a 1.8GHz Cortex-A15 and LTE instead of the 1.6GHz Cortex-A15 and no LTE in the international version.
Which one is better to get?
PowerLemons said:
Which variant of the Galaxy S4 is better?
I have a friend in South Korea who will be able to buy and ship the SHV-E300K Galaxy S4, but it will cost me about $100 in fees to ship it from South Korea to Canada.
According to what I heard, the South Korean model will have a 1.8GHz Cortex-A15 and LTE instead of the 1.6GHz Cortex-A15 and no LTE in the international version.
Which one is better to get?
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The Octa-core with LTE is the total package.
Do not consider this an expert opinion, but I'd imagine Samsung releasing the 1.8GHz version with the best quality A15 chips that can take the heat better, @AndreiLux however knows more about this. In any case, if I had the opportunity I'd go for the Korean version, but not before your friend checks if everything is all right and the phone is functioning well.
There will be little (almost to none) support for SHV-E300 models by developers. Although it looks similar to I9500, it will be very different in terms of custom kernels and custom ROMs.
By the way, according to kernel source codes, audio chips are also different. I9500 uses Wolfson audio, while E300(and I9505) uses Yamaha.
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How many of you guys are planning on rooting the S4 on Friday?
I have a nexus 7 rooted, so I'm trying to figure if it's worth routing, whilst losing out on my warranty.
sorg said:
There will be little (almost to none) support for SHV-E300 models by developers. Although it looks similar to I9500, it will be very different in terms of custom kernels and custom ROMs.
By the way, according to kernel source codes, audio chips are also different. I9500 uses Wolfson audio, while E300(and I9505) uses Yamaha.
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jalte isn't the i9505 anymore (Currently?). But yes the Octa LTE devices have Yamaha audio as it seems.
Kernel development is mostly a language barrier problem, I'm supporting the widly different N7108 even though I was nowhere near that device, only because one willing individual worked together with me to test it.
Only downfall about the Korean, is it will have that stupid looking DMB antenna that can slide in and out, I am sure of it as all korean phones have this and it was on the korean s3... This made the phone a fraction thicker then the international S3
But then samsung later released the exact same version internationally I9305 without the DMB antenna which is what I got. I really hope they dont do this again.
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jalte isn't the i9505 anymore (Currently?)
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Found I9505 (jf) sources on github. Audio chip is from Qualcomm. Probably standard one WCD9310.
As for support: Korean version needs framework (and sadly, libraries) rework to make phone useful outside of Korea. As far as i know, Korea uses VoLTE for voice call, so there is a chance that in countries with LTE CSFB, LTE in SHV-E300 will be useless even if phone will be able to connect. More SHV-E300 far from international version by hardware - harder to make it international. Nothing to do with Kernel, actually.
But since it uses different audio chip than wolfson, audio improvements won't apply for this model. May be tweaks from I9100 will be useful, but that's different story.
P.S.: need to wait exactly SHV-E300 sources. It's possible that Samsung changed something in the last moment.
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Only downfall about the Korean, is it will have that stupid looking DMB antenna that can slide in and out, I am sure of it as all korean phones have this and it was on the korean s3... This made the phone a fraction thicker then the international S3
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Using Korean SGSIII SHV-E210K (because of 2GB of RAM), i have a big problem with case accessories because phone is thicker than I9300 (cannot use any hard case) and back cover is completely incompatible with cover from I9300. If i would knew that I9305 will appear later, then i would never buy SHV-E210K.
For me, i don't see any advantage in SHV-E300 at all, but only problems.
And if custom Rom are not available you'll be stucked with a 80chars SMS problem
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PowerLemons said:
Which variant of the Galaxy S4 is better?
I have a friend in South Korea who will be able to buy and ship the SHV-E300K Galaxy S4, but it will cost me about $100 in fees to ship it from South Korea to Canada.
According to what I heard, the South Korean model will have a 1.8GHz Cortex-A15 and LTE instead of the 1.6GHz Cortex-A15 and no LTE in the international version.
Which one is better to get?
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Hello, I would like to know one thing, I'd like to know if your friend knows an online site where you can buy the version SHV-E300K : Confuso:. Thank you. I ask because I'm Italian and myself is sold the GT-i9505, the quad core version, but I like the Korean version of SHV-E300k. answer me as soon as possible thanks : Good: : Good:
totuccio21 said:
Hello, I would like to know one thing, I'd like to know if your friend knows an online site where you can buy the version SHV-E300K : Confuso:. Thank you. I ask because I'm Italian and myself is sold the GT-i9505, the quad core version, but I like the Korean version of SHV-E300k. answer me as soon as possible thanks : Good: : Good:
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Expansys Korea.
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http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer...DS3SC&prdb=SHV-E300KDS3KC&prdc=SHV-E300LDS3LC
There is no GSM 850mhz so you wont have a LOADS of coverage one you travel
and best to now if tits has the LTE band for your Carrier ..
later on we will see an exynos based LTE version right?
just like the GS3 and Gnote2?
I think if i have to choose i will choose the e300k, if there is have difference hardware,
It is right that korean version have few custom rom and kernel.
But, as my experience cooking rom for korean version there is just some different in framework or anything else.
So its possible porting any mod for international s4 to korean version.
So if the hardware e300k better than international version, i will choose the first one.
Google didn't seem to give any details about this and there does not seem to be any information about this one the web - is the S4 going to be with a Snapdragon or the Exynos chip?
All that seems to be known is that the hardware will be identical, that it is the 16gb edition, and that it is available for several GSM carriers in the US (which means it should work on these bands for international carriers too). No CPU info or anything else.
sauron0101 said:
Google didn't seem to give any details about this and there does not seem to be any information about this one the web - is the S4 going to be with a Snapdragon or the Exynos chip?
All that seems to be known is that the hardware will be identical, that it is the 16gb edition, and that it is available for several GSM carriers in the US (which means it should work on these bands for international carriers too). No CPU info or anything else.
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It'll ship with the Snapdragon chip inside.
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It'll ship with the Snapdragon chip inside.
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Do you have any links to confirm this?
sauron0101 said:
Do you have any links to confirm this?
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There are no links but it's being shipped for the US networks and they wouldn't introduce the Octa-core chips to compete with the quad cores in the US market. Plus I believe the other issue is the source. They haven't released squat for the Xynos chip so in all probability, this will be the snap dragon version.
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Do you have any links to confirm this?
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http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/spec-showdown-googles-take-on-the-galaxy-s4-vs-samsungs-own/
Basically like dilwaala said it's still the same S4 (GT-I9505) running stock android (no touchwiz ui or any other samsung bloatware.)
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http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/spec-showdown-googles-take-on-the-galaxy-s4-vs-samsungs-own/
Basically like dilwaala said it's still the same S4 (GT-I9505) running stock android (no touchwiz ui or any other samsung bloatware.)
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Yeah it looks identical. Sigh - was hoping for an Exynos version.