Sorry for the possibly quite stupid question, but according to "root checker" I am rooted, so does this automatically mean I'm unlocked? When I turn my Nexus 7 on, the lock is closed. Should that show an unlocked lock?
dae06 said:
Sorry for the possibly quite stupid question, but according to "root checker" I am rooted, so does this automatically mean I'm unlocked? When I turn my Nexus 7 on, the lock is closed. Should that show an unlocked lock?
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Unlocking and Rooting are 2 different things.
‘Unlocking’ deals with unlocking the bootloader. You cannot flash custom Roms or replace the Recovery image without unlocking.
‘Rooting’ deals with running apps with root-level permissions. You can modify system files, back up the files, etc. after rooting.
Remember: Both are not necessary. You can be rooted and don't really need to be unlocked.
This tool is a simple and effective way to unlock and root your Nexus 7. (At least for me it was.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
In your case, I believe you are rooted, but since booting up the Nexus 7 shows a lock, your boatloader is still locked meaning you are not unlocked. (Someone please confirm.)
I do request someone with greater knowledge to add more information. Thanks.
You would have needed to unlock the bootloader in order to root. You can confirm this by booting into the bootloader and reading the lock state.
Also, there is no locked icon. It's either the unlocked one or no icon at all.
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korockinout13 said:
You would have needed to unlock the bootloader in order to root. You can confirm this by booting into the bootloader and reading the lock state.
Also, there is no locked icon. It's either the unlocked one or no icon at all.
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How do I boot into the bootloader? Power, volume up and volume down, at the same time?
dae06 said:
How do I boot into the bootloader? Power, volume up and volume down, at the same time?
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FYI, Yes this is how you get into the bootloader.
Mine did say "unlocked".
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Also, there is no locked icon. It's either the unlocked one or no icon at all.
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^this.
I suppose (since it is the bootloader that displays the screen) that it is possible that different versions of the bootloader (v3.21, v4.13, v4.18) behave differently, but the above is what I've observed - no lock symbol at all if the bootloader is locked.
The icon for unlocked state only has a small gap in the hasp - kinda hard to notice unless you take a close look IMO.
dae06 said:
FYI, Yes this is how you get into the bootloader.
Mine did say "unlocked".
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Nope, really all you need to do is press volume down immediately when the Google screen comes up. Some people like to hold vol down and power but it's really not necessary.
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korockinout13 said:
Nope, really all you need to do is press volume down immediately when the Google screen comes up. Some people like to hold vol down and power but it's really not necessary.
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Great! Good to know.
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Great! Good to know.
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Make sure you are ready to press Vol-down as soon as possible when the splash screen shows up!
On my tablet, it seems that if I delay that Vol-down button-press by more than one second (maybe even only 0.75 sec!) the normal boot occurs. Also, same thing if release the Power button too soon after pressing Vol-down. I usually just keep the Power button held down until I see the fastboot-mode screen appear (2-3 seconds later)
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Make sure you are ready to press Vol-down as soon as possible when the splash screen shows up!
On my tablet, it seems that if I delay that Vol-down button-press by more than one second (maybe even only 0.75 sec!) the normal boot occurs. Also, same thing if release the Power button too soon after pressing Vol-down. I usually just keep the Power button held down until I see the fastboot-mode screen appear (2-3 seconds later)
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Hmm odd... I usually just tap the power button without any holding.
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dae06 said:
FYI, Yes this is how you get into the bootloader.
Mine did say "unlocked".
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press vol. down when the Google screen comes up
yes
To be rooted you firstly need to unlock the bootloader
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My power button no longer works on my phone. I need to restore to stock using the PD15IMG.zip but I can not get there without using the power button. I can get to fastboot, just not the bootloader (using adb reboot bootloader). Is there any way I can get to the bootloader without using the power button because I do not want to return this phone non stock?
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My power button no longer works on my phone. I need to restore to stock using the PD15IMG.zip but I can not get there without using the power button. I can get to fastboot, just not the bootloader (using adb reboot bootloader). Is there any way I can get to the bootloader without using the power button because I do not want to return this phone non stock?
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Try looking here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619153
dubie76 said:
Try looking here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619153
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The thing is if you adb reboot bootloader, it takes you to fastboot. The only way to get from fastboot to bootloader is the power button which I cannot use.
toby4059 said:
The thing is if you adb reboot bootloader, it takes you to fastboot. The only way to get from fastboot to bootloader is the power button which I cannot use.
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And you already tried pulling the battery, putting it back in while holding the volume down? f you have, you might be in a pinch.
I came to a solution. I updated my recovery through rom manager to one that doesnt turn on when power is plugged in. So now there is no way they could get the phone on any way.
toby4059 said:
I came to a solution. I updated my recovery through rom manager to one that doesnt turn on when power is plugged in. So now there is no way they could get the phone on any way.
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So when they fix the power button they won't see it's been rooted? They fix the phones at the T-mobile facility and check everything out.
I am pretty sure that rooting the phone only voids the warranty for software. The power button is a hardware issue, so I don't think you will have an issue either way.
kalel33 said:
So when they fix the power button they won't see it's been rooted? They fix the phones at the T-mobile facility and check everything out.
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Hey, if they get it fixed then call me and tell me its rooted, then I'll just tell them to send it back to me. I'll take it free of charge
Although, in all seriousness, I'd probably be screwed; however, I sent my last phone back when it wouldn't turn on rooted.
let us know what happened
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I am pretty sure that rooting the phone only voids the warranty for software. The power button is a hardware issue, so I don't think you will have an issue either way.
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Forgot to check this thread in awhile, but just for future reference, there is no software warranty and separate hardware warranty. There is only one warranty and if anything voids it then it doesn't matter if it was hardware or a software issue. I've seen out of warranty fees charged because there was a software issue and the phone had a slight crack on the screen in the corner.
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Hey, if they get it fixed then call me and tell me its rooted, then I'll just tell them to send it back to me. I'll take it free of charge
Although, in all seriousness, I'd probably be screwed; however, I sent my last phone back when it wouldn't turn on rooted.
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They don't return phones sent in. It's actually part of the script read to you that once sent that T-mobile will not return it.
I just stumbled upon a 'safe mode' that our Atrix can be booted into, I believe its similar to windows safe mode, as in it only loads essential system files.
To do this, power off your Atrix, and press the power button to turn it on. Once the boot ANIMATION starts, immediately press and HOLD the vol up + vol down buttons until you get a long vibe, then release. you'll then see 'safe mode' at the lower left of the screen when the lockscreen comes up.
Im sure this could be of some use... for something. Just unsure exactly what this could be useful for at this point.
Is the data working? Can you make phone calls? I didn't try it yet.
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jgc121 said:
I just stumbled upon a 'safe mode' that our Atrix can be booted into, I believe its similar to windows safe mode, as in it only loads essential system files.
To do this, power off your Atrix, and press the power button to turn it on. Once the boot ANIMATION starts, immediately press and HOLD the vol up + vol down buttons until you get a long vibe, then release. you'll then see 'safe mode' at the lower left of the screen when the lockscreen comes up.
Im sure this could be of some use... for something. Just unsure exactly what this could be useful for at this point.
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I'm sure there are more than this, but I've heard safe mode mainly being used by people who get the force close of death loop (aka force close loop that never ends, even when restarting). This way in safe mode you can try to do something about the app causing the trouble.
like delete it?
Safe Mode FTW! Thank you! Thank you!
I was in a force-close loop after a launcher update and this was the solution.
XDA comes through again!!!
Thank you so much!
Someone should compile all the button configurations into a thread or something like that?
Syl said:
Someone should compile all the button configurations into a thread or something like that?
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This, and the combinations for getting into fastboot and such are the only combinations I know of...
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G-Man. said:
This, and the combinations for getting into fastboot and such are the only combinations I know of...
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Way to go on the quick reply...Roflmao
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I know, right? Procrastination at its finest!
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First time I found out about safe mode, it was when I was booting my Galaxy Note and at same time rubbing it against my trousers to wipe the screen clean. In GNote, during the boot animation the Menu key has to be tapped several times, no wonder the rubbing did the trick.
It is good to know now when it would be useful.
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no wonder the rubbing did the trick.
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Doesn't it always?
I can do the same in my defy...but quarxs and the orher devs never found a use for this mode...
Maybe in atrix we can use it for something.
from the (m)ATRIX...
Hi,
Is there any MOD that disables the possibility to shut down the device when the phone is locked ? Its only for security reasons, because IMO it doesnt make any sense having something like Ceberus installed if the theif just can turn the phone off immediately after he/she steals it.
Thank you
Anyone ?
This would be a great mod to see. As I also use Cerberus.
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What's the point of this mod? Someone can just hold Power Button for 10 seconds and then the device shuts off anyway. It's hard coded in the phone.
If it was any other phone with a removable battery, they can just pull the battery.
What's the point in stealing a device and then having it completely shut off?
zephiK said:
What's the point of this mod? Someone can just hold Power Button for 10 seconds and then the device shuts off anyway. It's hard coded in the phone.
If it was any other phone with a removable battery, they can just pull the battery.
What's the point in stealing a device and then having it completely shut off?
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And on top of that, won't booting into bootloader and locking/unlocking the bootloader wipe everything anyway?
zephiK said:
What's the point of this mod? Someone can just hold Power Button for 10 seconds and then the device shuts off anyway. It's hard coded in the phone.
If it was any other phone with a removable battery, they can just pull the battery.
What's the point in stealing a device and then having it completely shut off?
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Well it is exactly these functions I would like to have the option to disable, because it doesnt make any sense for me having this possibility on a device that's locked.
However I must admit I didn't know that a 10 sec hold on the power button shuts down the device and is hard coded into the device. Does that mean it is impossible to disable it ?
And on top of that, won't booting into bootloader and locking/unlocking the bootloader wipe everything anyway?
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IMO the average thief is not capable of doing this
carljoe said:
Well it is exactly these functions I would like to have the option to disable, because it doesnt make any sense for me having this possibility on a device that's locked.
However I must admit I didn't know that a 10 sec hold on the power button shuts down the device and is hard coded into the device. Does that mean it is impossible to disable it ?
IMO the average thief is not capable of doing this
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Im not a developer but that ten second thing is deep coded pretty deep within the phone. I'd say at boot loader level. Considering the phone doesn't have a removable battery you have to deep force the phone to shut down somehow. So in this case it would be to long press the power button.
And yes you are right on that, the average thief one who had the audacity to steal from others most likely don't know how to hack their phones. Otherwise I'd be highly impressed lol
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I also need this. My cerberus is pointless this way
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Well, what is the point of having an app such as Cerberus, if said thief can just shut the phone down
Then again, the thief would have to turn on the phone at some point...
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Then again, the thief would have to turn on the phone at some point...
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indeed but the more ime you have the better IMO.
and yeah would be a nice MOD, not everybody knows that pressing volume button + power will shutdown.
Wouldnt simply removing the sim card disable the function of these sorts of apps anyway?
No it doesn't. You even will get notified when the thief puts another simcard in the phone
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zephiK said:
Im not a developer but that ten second thing is deep coded pretty deep within the phone. I'd say at boot loader level. Considering the phone doesn't have a removable battery you have to deep force the phone to shut down somehow. So in this case it would be to long press the power button.
And yes you are right on that, the average thief one who had the audacity to steal from others most likely don't know how to hack their phones. Otherwise I'd be highly impressed lol
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Its not even in software, its hardware
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Found solution
Anyone found a solution for this? I know many people that want it...
A mod like:
Press power button 10 sec+ (after that) press in some order Vol+ and Vol- (example, + + + - - + - +) selectable by the user via an app/setting.
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It would not use any additional battery or resources, since the shutdown mode (where the pass has to be input) would only start after the normal 10 sec press witch is already a rare event. Then, if the pass is wrong, return to normal mode, but if it is OK -> emergency shutdown.
If someone can make a mod like that, he/she would be god.
Since only the owner can shutdown the phone in an emergency. Making Cerberus completely valid (unless a thief has a screwdriver at hand).
PD: Is this located on the bootloader code? I would start trying it myself, or at least investigating the issue. But if it is a HW setting, then forget everything I said.
Imagine that...
carljoe said:
Hi,
Is there any MOD that disables the possibility to shut down the device when the phone is locked ? Its only for security reasons, because IMO it doesnt make any sense having something like Ceberus installed if the theif just can turn the phone off immediately after he/she steals it.
Thank you
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Imagine a Nexus which needs a authorization both to shutdown, turn on airplane mode, enter recovery or even enter download mode (where you use that LG Flash Tool).
That would simplify the whole process of tracking.
Bonus: and what about the Location settings....if you turn off location..."Android Device Manager" stop working...instead off temporarily bypass this setting.
Hi guys!!
I recently installed Cerberus anti theft to protect my Nexus 4.I noticed that you can easily power off the phone altough the screen is locked.
Is there a way to prevent this?I mean that you have to unlock the screen first and then you have the right to power off the phone.
tegos said:
Hi guys!!
I recently installed Cerberus anti theft to protect my Nexus 4.I noticed that you can easily power off the phone altough the screen is locked.
Is there a way to prevent this?I mean that you have to unlock the screen first and then you have the right to power off the phone.
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Are you worried about someone getting access to your phone? I have Cerberus and if my phone goes missing, I just use PIN lock from the Cerberus website.
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The point he is trying to make is that if anyone got the phone they could just shut it off and none of your commands from Cerberus would be received.
tegos said:
Hi guys!!
I recently installed Cerberus anti theft to protect my Nexus 4.I noticed that you can easily power off the phone altough the screen is locked.
Is there a way to prevent this?I mean that you have to unlock the screen first and then you have the right to power off the phone.
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You mean the hold power for 10 seconds? That's a hardware feature you cannot disable.
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DarkhShadow said:
You mean the hold power for 10 seconds? That's a hardware feature you cannot disable.
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Not only the continuous hold of power button but also when you press it for 1 second it gives you the option to power off the phone.I don't want to stop this but I want to happen only when the screen is unlocked first.Isn't there an application for this?
tegos said:
Not only the continuous hold of power button but also when you press it for 1 second it gives you the option to power off the phone.I don't want to stop this but I want to happen only when the screen is unlocked first.Isn't there an application for this?
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Im also looking for the same. Let me know if u find one.
kgeissler said:
Are you worried about someone getting access to your phone? I have Cerberus and if my phone goes missing, I just use PIN lock from the Cerberus website.
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That does you no good if the phone is powered off. He is looking for a way to disable the power off feature at the screen lock swipe/pin/pass (whatever it is you happen to use). When you correctly input your secret swipepin/pass you can then power off the phone.
I too am in need of this. would have helped recover a lost phone that I am looking for that would be easy to locate if the thing was actually powered up, but since it can be powered off without first unlocking the main screen I think I may be **** out of luck.
My wife turned on her N7 this morning and it wouldn't boot. Instead there is the droid guy with red triangle saying no command.
Can't use WUG since ADB returns no devices. Tried several computers but none see the device. Unplugged the battery but still the same issue.
Appreciate your help
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My wife turned on her N7 this morning and it wouldn't boot. Instead there is the droid guy with red triangle saying no command.
Can't use WUG since ADB returns no devices. Tried several computers but none see the device. Unplugged the battery but still the same issue.
Appreciate your help
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Turn off the device(Hold the power button for about 10sec) if it's on. Now hold all three hardware buttons(Power, volume UO & Down) togather till the google logo shows up, and this will tur your device on into fastboot mode. Now you should be able to to find your devece from your PC(if driver installed). If you ment "Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit" by "WUG" than you probably want to use Flash stock + Unroot (Can't boot up).
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Turn off the device(Hold the power button for about 10sec) if it's on. Now hold all three hardware buttons(Power, volume UO & Down) togather till the google logo shows up, and this will tur your device on into fastboot mode. Now you should be able to to find your devece from your PC(if driver installed). If you ment "Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit" by "WUG" than you probably want to use Flash stock + Unroot (Can't boot up).
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Thanks I tried this. When I try to turn it off it immediately reboots. Tried holding the 3 buttons when this occurs, but the result is still the dead droid with no command under it. The screen where you can select reboot recovery, bootloader never comes up. Confirmed fastboot isn't working.
Any other ideas?
pmgreen said:
Thanks I tried this. When I try to turn it off it immediately reboots. Tried holding the 3 buttons when this occurs, but the result is still the dead droid with no command under it. The screen where you can select reboot recovery, bootloader never comes up. Confirmed fastboot isn't working.
Any other ideas?
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It's not 3 buttons, only power and down volume.
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korockinout13 said:
It's not 3 buttons, only power and down volume.
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Sorry my bad. But three button also works for me. I just tested.
I tried power and up and power and down. Still get the same result
pmgreen said:
I tried power and up and power and down. Still get the same result
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Try not holding power, only press the volume key when the Google logo shows up.
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Try not holding power, only press the volume key when the Google logo shows up.
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Got the angry droid doing this. One I turned the power on, held the volume key up and once again with the volume key down. What am I doing something wrong?
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Got the angry droid doing this. One I turned the power on, held the volume key up and once again with the volume key down. What am I doing something wrong?
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Even if you just tap the volume button on the Google screen? It should have the same result normally, but something is funky.
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korockinout13 said:
Even if you just tap the volume button on the Google screen? It should have the same result normally, but something is funky.
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Something is really funky. I did the same exercise with another N7 and got into bootloader with no issues
Think it's worth letting the battery die and start over? Grasping at straws
pmgreen said:
Something is really funky. I did the same exercise with another N7 and got into bootloader with no issues
Think it's worth letting the battery die and start over? Grasping at straws
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Perhaps, just be aware that running the battery all the way down can also cause booting issues.
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