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Joined this site a while ago, and needless to say, I've been literally blown away by it. The members of this site are just incredibly talented; I've been able to make my 8525 look and function just fantastic, and just about any fix/patch I've been able to locate through this site.
Currently using Custel WM6 rom and it's so stable and faster than the WM5 I had (though it was so hard to choose with so MANY excellent cooked roms to choose from)...
So, since it seems there's no limit to what can be done with these great devices, I was wondering if it is at all possible to use an 8525 to connect an Xbox 360 to Xbox Live?? I am able to connect using Internet Connection Sharing via USB to my laptop running Vista Ult. and get great surfing speed, so is there any way to somehow configure it to get the 360 to connect to Live through it? Could the 8525 be connected directly to the 360 (prob not likely) or can it be set up using the laptop to share the connection??
Any help/answers on this would be greatly appreciated!!!
I may be wrong, but I don't think that this is possible.
As far as I know, the xbox has no bluetooth pan support, and I don't think it is possible to have an USB modem directly setuped.
The remaining possibilities are: through the RJ45 or through the wifi. Sadly the hermes has no RJ45 connector, and it is unable to become an acces-point nor an add-hock host.
I just wanted to say that the idea of using a Hermes to connect an xbox 360 to xbox live would be just about the coolest thing ever done with a cell phone.
Is it possible to connect a 360 to XBL via a PC/laptop?
Dammit!!
Well, was worth a try, especially before tangling myself in wires trynna wing it... Guess I will be calling those Optimum guys for my XB Live fix...
Precisely what I was thinking. Was sitting here surfing using the phone as a modem, getting great speed, then thought, 'hey it would be cool as f%#$# to connect to Live with this...' I mean, I know the 8525 could probably handle it... The question is, what CANT this phone do?!
HOLLIDAY1183 said:
Joined this site a while ago, and needless to say, I've been literally blown away by it. The members of this site are just incredibly talented; I've been able to make my 8525 look and function just fantastic, and just about any fix/patch I've been able to locate through this site.
Currently using Custel WM6 rom and it's so stable and faster than the WM5 I had (though it was so hard to choose with so MANY excellent cooked roms to choose from)...
So, since it seems there's no limit to what can be done with these great devices, I was wondering if it is at all possible to use an 8525 to connect an Xbox 360 to Xbox Live?? I am able to connect using Internet Connection Sharing via USB to my laptop running Vista Ult. and get great surfing speed, so is there any way to somehow configure it to get the 360 to connect to Live through it? Could the 8525 be connected directly to the 360 (prob not likely) or can it be set up using the laptop to share the connection??
Any help/answers on this would be greatly appreciated!!!
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Just tried it. Plugged it in and enabled Internet Connection Sharing, and the phone starts charging, but says "Check USB Connection" I'm not much of a hacker, so I can't attempt any driver\software hacks to get it working. You'd probably have to write a driver for the XBox to recognize the phone, and possibly vice versa. Definitly possible. Probably never going to happen though.
I'm doing it now. I connected the 8525 by USB to my computer. Then I open up the Internet Sharing program that uses the phone as a USB modem (I'm using Black Majic ROM btw). Then I select connect on the program on my 8525. Once it connects, I go to my Network Connections on my PC. I have the RJ-45 connected from the XBOX 360 to the ethernet port on my PC. I click once on the connection that says Local Area Connection # (mine is 13, everyones would be different) Windows Mobile Based Internet Sharing Device, then I hold Ctrl on my PC keyboard and click on the other connection (the one for my ethernet port). Once both are highlighted, you can right click on either one and select Bridge (I believe thats the one, anything that says Bridge on it) and let Windows bridge the connections and you should be set. Sorry if my explaining isn't very good.
Via a PC it should indeed be not an issue (as explained above).
To do it directly, it should work with an ethernet-bluetooth bridge. I'm
using 2 ethernet-wifi bridges to connect a TV and a PC to a wifi router,
but I'm pretty sure ethernet-bluetooth bridges also exist.
Jörg
Wow, according to drodri I was pretty close to having it right before... I will try that setup in a sec... also, is there a way to incorporate my wireless-G linksys router into this, or no? Is that in Vista?
I appreciate your input... I've done exactly the same as your setup, and when I go into Network Connections, it has the 8525 listed as Remote NDIS based Internet Sharing Device (Internet Connect #5) & the ethernet connection as Local Area Connection (Unidentified Network)... In the Network and Sharing Center, do I make the ethernet connection Private, or leave it Public? Or does it matter at all... because it still for some reason won't connect to Live, it still fails the IP test... there must be a setting or configuration I'm missing here, I just know it
You could also possibly use an ethernet to wifi device (wireless access point) to go from ethernet to wifi on the 360, then use a wireless network to the TyTN (ad-hoc mode rather than ap mode) and use that to run the connection..
but..
a) its an expensive way to do it
b) it needs extra hardware
c) it may not work (can the tytn do ICS over wifi rather than usb? DUN mode may work on the newer roms that will have it - but does DUN work over wifi)
d) the access point would need to initiate the connection to the phone while also doing dhcp for the xbox.. it should work.. and id try it for you.. except that it seems like a horribly complex way to do it.
Hmm... maybe I'll give it a shot.
Where there's a will, there's a way
I think the ideal goal here would be straight from 360 to Hermes. USB or wifi, with a small adaptor if needed. It would be beautiful if someone could write drivers so you could just plug 'er in with USB and use the built in Internet Sharing on the Hermes.
Obviously those are high hopes, and in a perfect world everything would automatically work like that. *drools over universal compatibility*
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I think the ideal goal here would be straight from 360 to Hermes. USB or wifi, with a small adaptor if needed. It would be beautiful if someone could write drivers so you could just plug 'er in with USB and use the built in Internet Sharing on the Hermes.
Obviously those are high hopes, and in a perfect world everything would automatically work like that. *drools over universal compatibility*
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For USB The problem is the driver would have to be on the 360.. it's 100% impossible.
Even if you can run unsigned code on your 360, you'd also have to be some kind of coding,hardware modding, hacking junkie to even try to write a 360 driver; on top of which to do it for a crazy reason like interfacing to one mobile phone... that would be die hard madness!
Microsoft on the other hand could probably whip it up in 5 minutes as the xbox already supports everything that's needed except an RNDIS driver to enumerate the phone as a network card. Problem being the target audience is small; possibly even just you guys
Wifi is more likely to happen as you dont really need to modify the 360, if someone wrote a driver to make the phone look like a wireless AP (if thats possible with its wifi chipset) and assuming ICS on WM6 supports wifi connection to the PC/360 (im not sure it does) then it should work fine. (Has anyone checked if the 360 wifi adapter can support a connection to non-ap ad-hoc wifi? if it can then this might work already if you very lucky - i dont have the wifi link for my 360 or id try it)
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.......if someone wrote a driver to make the phone look like a wireless AP (if thats possible with its wifi chipset) and assuming ICS on WM6 supports wifi connection to the PC/360 (im not sure it does) then it should work fine. (Has anyone checked if the 360 wifi adapter can support a connection to non-ap ad-hoc wifi?....
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Does anybody know if there is already software to make the Hermes a WiFi-Router or make ICS make select WiFi?
I'm going to try this tonight with my regular xbox
There are already instructions on this forum for using your device as a wifi access point. It seems pretty straight-forward. So you should be able to connect any wifi client, including a wifi capable Xbox 360.
8525 / Hermes wifi AP
Hey, I actually did something similar since I didn't want to buy a $100 wireless adapter. I have a PC (but can be done with a laptop) with a wi-fi connection near my 360 all I had to do was use a patch cable to connect the PC to the 360. I am running vista, but Patch cables are hardware that tells the network card they are attached to a like device. It automatically shared my connection and we were able to go on-line. There were other ways I found that suggest changing router settings and such, but this was the easiest way. All you need now to use your phone to get your 360 on-lin is a computer
Running the latest cyanogen and can't figure out how to setup USB tethering. I assume I need some type of driver for my phone but am having trouble finding one. Anyone been succesful setting it up?
all you need is to go in to settings and the wireless control and scrol down to usb tethering and just clik on that while your phone is connected to the pc and you got internet...........it was that easy for me
sorin129 said:
all you need is to go in to settings and the wireless control and scrol down to usb tethering and just clik on that while your phone is connected to the pc and you got internet...........it was that easy for me
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Hmm... pc comes up with the new hardware install wizard and asks for an android driver. I need to install the phone somehow.
acis said:
Running the latest cyanogen and can't figure out how to setup USB tethering. I assume I need some type of driver for my phone but am having trouble finding one. Anyone been succesful setting it up?
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If you're running windows XP the driver isn't included on your computer. Some people have installed HTC Sync to get the drivers, personally I got them from this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445436
I can confirm that the driver from that post works, I am using tethering with my laptop right now to write this post!
bassderek said:
If you're running windows XP the driver isn't included on your computer. Some people have installed HTC Sync to get the drivers, personally I got them from this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445436
I can confirm that the driver from that post works, I am using tethering with my laptop right now to write this post!
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Worked for me, thank you sir!
That was exactly my problem, thanks a ton.
Same there. Thanks !
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Hmm... pc comes up with the new hardware install wizard and asks for an android driver. I need to install the phone somehow.
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glad it worked for you
Linux drivers
Hello I am using Linux (gentoo, so I need kernel options, not binary modules, really). Does anyone know what drivers/mechanism can be used to configure USB tethering on a Linux host?
Linux kernel support for USB tethering
To answer my own question... The relevant kernel options under kernel version 2.6.31 seem to be:
CONFIG_USB_USBNET=m
CONFIG_USB_NET_CDCETHER=m
CONFIG_USB_NET_RNDIS_HOST=m
If you 'cd /usr/src/linux; make menuconfig' You can key '/' to initiate a search for the substrings 'usbnet', 'cdcether', etc. They are under:
Code:
│ -> Device Drivers
│ -> Network device support (NETDEVICES [=y])
│ -> USB Network Adapters
For CyanogenMod-4.2.3.1 (and similar verions):
When you connect your phone via usb, browse (on the phone) to Settings -> Wireless controls, and check 'Internet tethering'.
On your host linux machine the node /dev/usb0 should be created. Run 'dmesg' to see if it is registered. Type 'lsmod' to see if you have a listing like:
Code:
rndis_host 6160 0
cdc_ether 4236 1 rndis_host
usbnet 13196 2 rndis_host,cdc_ether
I am assuming you have kernel module auto-loading enabled. If not try running 'modprobe rndis_host'. You should hopefully then have /dev/usb0 or similar.
Furthermore this should be recognised as a network interface and be listed by 'ifconfig -a'. The interface can then be configured in the usual way, i.e.:
Code:
ifconfig usb0 up
dhcpcd usb0
Whereon the phone seems to automagically provide dhcp and dns. Hope this helps fellow linux users. I can provide further details of my working configuration if anyone has difficulty.
The USB tethered device is much friendlier on battery. Previously I was having to plug my wireless tethered phone into my laptop just to keep it alive. It was very hot and would sometimes loose the charging battle (i.e. putting out more power over 3G and Wifi than accepting from USB charging). The proper USB networking device interface is much preferable and should theoretically provide superior performance than the higher level Java-based NAT approaches previously seen, although I have not yet noticed reduced latency.
The only issue from an open source perspective is that the RNDIS protocol does not seem like a very pleasant option, being encumbered with a proprietary license and limited documentation from what I have read. I wonder why android does not support open source CDC alternatives (which I am lead to believe do exist).
I'm on mac and I can't figure how to get connected by usb. Do I have to configure Firefox ?
silasdavis,
Thanks a ton!
That got me working.
I was unable to get the tethering to work with Wifi. I would be able to see it as a network in Wicd but could never get an IP.
Could you shed some light on how you did this? I am a Gentoo user as well.
It took me a while to figure it out but what I did was made a symlink in /etc/init.d from net.usb0 to net.lo and that was the only way I could start it. using ifconfig usb up didn't seem to work.
:: edit ::
BTW, I posted (and am editing) this using USB tethering
It is kind of nostalgic for me... like I'm on dialup or something.
How fast is the connection across the tether, could it handle an RDP connection to a desktop at home?
@captsammy
It's of course going to depend on your 3g connection more than anything else, but I just got the following results from speedtest.net when tethering via usb:
Ping 78ms (not bad actually, for 3g)
Download 1.03Mbps (about 120 kilobytes/s)
Upload: 0.32Mbps (about 40 kilobytes/s)
That would almost certainly suffice for a remote desktop connection, bandwidth wise, but as will be the case with every connection via cell-phone wireless, it will be incredibly laggy due to poor latency (ping 78).
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Lots of linux config....
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That was exactly what I was looking for.
I personally just compiled them built-in rather than modules, but great info!
Posted from Gentoo tethered to my G1
Ubuntu Karmic Koala
To whom it concerns: on Ubuntu Karmic Koala USB tethering works out of the box - all the necessary modules are loaded automatically, the station gets the DHCP parameters and sets the IP address and routing rules automatically and you're ready to go - no configuration needed.
usb tether - code 10 - win xp
Heres my problem
Using mt3g with cyanogen 4.2.7.1. On my win xp laptop i previously installed the android sdk/adb deal to do shell stuff like manual sd partitioning. I enable tethering on tje device but windows cannot install the htc ndis driver. I get the code 10 error.
Heres the kicker, i am running the same windows version on my desktop computer but have not installed the sdk. Tethering works fine.
It seems that something to do with the sdk install on the laptop prevents the usb tethering. I dont know what do to to make this work.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks.
Paul
Mt3g
Cyan 4.2.7.1
Enoch theme
501 ext4
97mb swap
Running CM 4.2.8.1 on mt3g and having trouble with USB Tethering to my MacBook Pro. I have the sdk installed but I'm not sure what I would need to enter in Terminal to get it connected as a USB ethernet device.
Any tips?
Windows 7 home premium
how to setup for win 7 ?? i tick internet tethering inside wireless control .. it doest do the work .. any driver for win 7 ?? im using cyanogenmod 4.2.8 too
Win7 automatically installs driver for Remote NDIS
I am on a Windows 7 laptop and have the Android SDK installed. On the phone side, I am running CyanogenMod v. 4.2.12.2 on an HTC ADP1.
USB Internet Tethering works like a charm. I am posting this via USB tether to a WiFi connected phone (3G tether also works). Great work by Cyanogen and co-workers!
To get tethering running on Win7, I first enabled USB Internet Tethering on the phone, before connecting it to the Win7 laptop. Win7 then automatically installed the Remote NDIS based Internet Sharing Device driver and connected to the phone. No configuration required.
Perhaps the people having trouble on Win7 didn't enable tethering on the phone before connecting to Win7? However, now I can actually enable/disable tethering with the phone constantly connected to USB and Win7 loads the correct drivers on the fly.
Just that. Wifi or USB tether doesn't function. The phone says it's connected, but the laptop says no network connection.
There any replacement apps that might help? I flashed the latest radio and that fixed a GPS problem I was having, but didn't fix the tether. Suggestions?
Its not clear, were you able to tether before, and now you've lost that function. Or is this the first time you've tried it?
If its the first time, ATT has blocked this function with the intent that you pay for the extra tethering fee.
But a simple reg edit works around this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569953
Also, there is a free WiFi sharing app on this site, if you do a search. There are also paid apps, like Walking Hotspot, that also work.
Keep in mind, tethering without the tethering plan is a violation of ATT's terms and conditions. They reserve the right to levy big per kb fees or cancel your service.
That said, I've done it from time to time while on business trips (no excessive data usage), and its never been a problem.
I'm an idiot, I forgot to update my sig. I'm not running stock anymore, sorry. I actually forgot which rom I switched to, but it was one of the lighter ones. had wifi router, office, and everything basic on there though. What option do I have if I don't remember which ROM I used?
The custom ROMs I've used (Energy, simplicity) support tethering by default without any modification or settings to change. Or the WiFi router will basically do the same thing.
I still don't know if you have been able to tether before, and suddenly can't; or this is you first time attempting it.
If its something you've been able to do before, some computers can be finicky (for no very ovious reason) with the Internet Sharing function. Try a different USB port, or to reboot your system. Also, you need to have Active Sync installed on your computer (or Windows Mobile Device Center, in the case of Vista or Windows 7). This was a big "duh" moment for me one time. I was trying to get tethering up on my work laptop. Then I realized that I had never installed Active Sync since my work gave me a new laptop.
Tether/Internet Sharing via Bluetooth should also work, if you computer has Bluetooth.
I apologize again. With this ROM I've never been able to tether, and I just reinstalled windows and installed activesync. I can do activesync and file transfers and everything else. What else can I do? Maybe it's a driver issue between windows and the phone? I'unno.
This is what happens.
lordxiagan said:
Just that. Wifi or USB tether doesn't function. The phone says it's connected, but the laptop says no network connection.
There any replacement apps that might help? I flashed the latest radio and that fixed a GPS problem I was having, but didn't fix the tether. Suggestions?
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Ok, if you connect to the internet from the phone, and once connected you then hooked it in the PC, then you wont be able to connect tether. So turn off any phone internet connection, and then hooked it up to the PC , then connect.
I don't think he is talking about being connected to the internet. When you start Internet Sharing, it will say on the phone whether its connected to the PC over USB, or not. That is what I think the OP is talking about.
just update your rom... go to one of the energy roms that has wifi sharing built in and you'll be ready to go.
Probably the easiest thing you can do to get this working.
What I'm trying to....
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I don't think he is talking about being connected to the internet. When you start Internet Sharing, it will say on the phone whether its connected to the PC over USB, or not. That is what I think the OP is talking about.
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What I'm trying to explain is that, if you have data running in your cell before connecting IS, and connect it to the PC it wont tether, you need to first end Data Connection, connect IS and then HOOK THE USB to the PC.
The HDSense builds are quite good in this job, with only one touch you can have access to your desktop internet on your android device with a USB cable. However, on other builds there's no option like that (that i know of). So my question is: is this type of connection possible between a pc and a non-sense build of android (via USB cable), especially on Cyanomod builds.
I want to know this because I dont have a Wifi router installed. Also when I try a different Android ROM I always sync my Gmail with the phone, and on 3G speeds its a bit slow.
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The HDSense builds are quite good in this job, with only one touch you can have access to your desktop internet on your android device with a USB cable. However, on other builds there's no option like that (that i know of). So my question is: is this type of connection possible between a pc and a non-sense build of android (via USB cable), especially on Cyanomod builds.
I want to know this because I dont have a Wifi router installed. Also when I try a different Android ROM I always sync my Gmail with the phone, and on 3G speeds its a bit slow.
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In the Market App look for WiFi teather, or:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867467
ı asked same question two or three days ago but nobody give an answer..wifi teather not correct answer deadmansink..Alex talking about "internet pass through"..sorry for english
Ra_Han said:
ı asked same question two or three days ago but nobody give an answer..wifi teather not correct answer deadmansink..Alex talking about "internet pass through"..sorry for english
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That's why I gave a link to my thread that shows the "Wired Tether" link for download. He clearly states that he want's internet for his pc without use of a router.
ok.ı am asking you my old question again with my horrible english
.."my wifi is so slow and ı can't download big files for example map data..ı want to use differnt android builds with int.pass thr. not only HD but how?thansk and sorry terrible english"..
No, Ra_han is right, i meant the internet pass through, i dont have a wifi router so i cant use wifi on my phone. Thus i would like to use internet via a usb cable (on my phone, not on my pc)
AlexVK said:
No, Ra_han is right, i meant the internet pass through, i dont have a wifi router so i cant use wifi on my phone. Thus i would like to use internet via a usb cable (on my phone, not on my pc)
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Have your tried to set up a VPN?
i got this to work and i am using MDJs desire HD froyo build.
i personally am not sure how it all happened as the first time i tried it it didnt work. but i decided to give it another shot and i plugged in my usb cable, device asks me what to do (sync, tether, etc) and i select the internet passthrough option and my windows 7 comp started installing drivers and all of a sudden i could browse via my phone.
sorry i cant give details but it just happened that easily. i also installed htc sync first that was directly downloaded from htc website. i am not sure if that installed any drivers to make this process work. the htc sync program itself doesnt work.
hope my vagueness gives you some leads haha.
Yes, the HD builds have that option, so I would think that there are other programs on the market that can let you do the same without the HD Sense. I tried USB tethering (sharing internet of the phone with the PC) while my connections (pc internet and phone internet) were "bridged". That, I thought, should share pc internet with the phone, but it did not work. Did someone have more luck with that?
i gave up trying to find answer for windows xp,seems to be impossible,my pc sees my hd2 as a composite android device,but thats it,no matter what i have tried,no success,with or without usb tethering engaged,still nothing,so i tried EasyTether from the marketplace,worked first time for me,windows xp and sp3.
Hey guys I need some suggestions, what I want to do is use my computer downstairs to play wow. But I don't have a cord that that reaches all the way up stairs to the modem.
We do have wifi but this computer doesn't. So I want to use my MT4G as a USB Wifi adapter. I also don't want to buy one. I also don't receive any data service here. So I need to run of the wifi
I've tried Pda.net but it was way to slow to run anything, the rom i'm using is miui and when i try to tether through usb my comp says it cant find the program to install.
So if you have any suggestions they would be greatly appreciated. THANKS!!
Jerald2 said:
Hey guys I need some suggestions, what I want to do is use my computer downstairs to play wow. But I don't have a cord that that reaches all the way up stairs to the modem.
We do have wifi but this computer doesn't. So I want to use my MT4G as a USB Wifi adapter. I also don't want to buy one. I also don't receive any data service here. So I need to run of the wifi
I've tried Pda.net but it was way to slow to run anything, the rom i'm using is miui and when i try to tether through usb my comp says it cant find the program to install.
So if you have any suggestions they would be greatly appreciated. THANKS!!
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Need wow that bad, you can teheter and use your phone as wifi hotspot but can't use it as a wifi card the usb ones are 20 bucks go buy one
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The answer is trivial:
Have your phone with WiFi connected, plug the phone, choose USB tether mode, and it will share its WiFi with the computer.
Tethering shares whatever connectivity the phone has at the moment. Obviously you can't share WiFi connectivity over WiFi, so WiFi hotspot won't work for you, but you can share WiFi connectivity over USB.
No program is needed, if MIUI guys coded it correctly - the virtual device is RNDIS, any Windows should have drivers for it.
If you have Mac - go back to Sense ROM that can share USB with Macs using some other virtual device mode.