Just how many more Cores?? - One (M7) General

I simply would like to know just how many more cores do Android phones require to render basic games smoothly without lag?
It seems on paper, these devices will have enough power to virtually take off! yet my HTC One cannot handle a game like Cordy 2 or Granny Smith without stutter and lag.

I would put it down to the immense fragmentation of the android eco system which makes it nearly impossible to optimise for every device that may be running the app in question. I'm sure many developers will optimise for the One eventually...

well i can play cordy 2 and real racing in power save mode (reduced cpu) with no lag or stutter at all....

hawrai68 said:
I simply would like to know just how many more cores do Android phones require to render basic games smoothly without lag?
It seems on paper, these devices will have enough power to virtually take off! yet my HTC One cannot handle a game like Cordy 2 or Granny Smith without stutter and lag.
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I've played Temple Run 2, Real Racing 3, Need for speed, Asphalt 7 and they're all running fine? Plus I've heard Game-loft are updating their apps so it runs better than good on the new Snapdragon 600 processor

I am sorry, but unless each device is made slightly different, then there is no way those games run 100% lag free...as this is not just an issue with HTC One, Its the same with my friends Xperia Z....simple games are simply not smooth.
It seems the higher the spec on theses phones, the more lag there is on simple games.

You ask a question then disagree with everyone who answered, why ask?
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Haha. You really shouldn't blame Android...too much. Games with ****ty support run ****ty no matter what. Words with Friends is still crap on my iPad. And Zynga decided to break Scramble as well with their new update. Android makes it harder for even well supported games to work flawlessly. All the multitasking and stuff. It's like when your instant messenger freezes a game of Crysis on a $2000 computer? Yeah, that's what you get for picking the platform that can do more stuff at one time and is more "open". Like a swiss army knife to cut your filet mignon instead of a dedicated steak knife. If you don't need the extra functionality of Android, why not switch to the iPhone?

You ask a question then disagree with everyone who answered, why ask?
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I was hoping to a technical explanation to what is clearly a problem with most high end Android devices, and I would hardly classify replies by two individuals as "everyone"...anyway not sure what rattled your cage.

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Haha. You really shouldn't blame Android...too much. Games with ****ty support run ****ty no matter what. Words with Friends is still crap on my iPad. And Zynga decided to break Scramble as well with their new update. Android makes it harder for even well supported games to work flawlessly. All the multitasking and stuff. It's like when your instant messenger freezes a game of Crysis on a $2000 computer? Yeah, that's what you get for picking the platform that can do more stuff at one time and is more "open". Like a swiss army knife to cut your filet mignon instead of a dedicated steak knife. If you don't need the extra functionality of Android, why not switch to the iPhone?
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True, I have an Iphone as my other device, I was just hoping there would be a bit more power to such a top specced Android phone than just for benchmarking and how fast you can open, close and swipe between home screens.

Its not the device but the apps/games. Then again you cannot blame the app devs because android ecosystem is just enormous and you cannot really compare with ios with handful of models and most importantly only one manufacturer.

Don't say your phone can't handle a game because it can, use a heavily developed game that has a lot of attention payed to it. Big difference between a game like that compared to a small under developed game.
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Don't feed the troll...

Seriously? There are two huge threads almost exclusively talking about gaming on this phone right in the one general forum. Do a little footwork.
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Heh, troll thread. Recommend everyone just report this thread to the mods. It's blatantly obvious the OP is trolling, don't feed this little critter.

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Android games not "up to par"?

Anyone else feel like the games that are available for the Android system overall are nothing more than just non-smartphone games? As I look through the available games I haven't really seen one that is any better than what I used to be able to get for my regular old flip phone 5 years ago.. My buddy has an Iphone and he has games like Madden '11 and similar games that have pretty decent graphics and good game play.. why aren't we seeing this for the android system?
*I am aware that with the newest Droid X update they released Madden '11, but why not for all phones?
Some phones can't handle the graphics
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How long was the iPhone out before games were available? Probably close to a year until good games came along? While android has been out for a while, it wasn't really mainstream until the original Droid was released on VZW, which is just over a year ago. Good games are starting to show up, but the quantity isn't so great right now. I'd say give it another 3-6 months and more games will start showing up. Gingerbread should further improve this with the added game controls in the OS.
Dude, GetJar gives away Modern Combat today
http://www.gameloft.com/
I've seen pretty decent games for Android. Thought I'm not a gamer at all.
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Dude, GetJar gives away Modern Combat today
http://www.gameloft.com/
I've seen pretty decent games for Android. Thought I'm not a gamer at all.
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The giveaway is only the demo.
I guess it's enough to judge about the quality? ;-)
i agree with you completely compared to iOS the games on android haven't caught up yet but personally i believe this is a small price to pay for having an open source ecosystem. This is why I like android phones more than the iphone itself but i do not condemn the people that get them as android may not be their cup of tea (i personally recommend android phones to my friends that are techie or at least somewhat fluent in using a regular computer while anyone that would be lost in setting menus looking for a way to change their ringtone for calls get an iphone as it is more like a regular dumbphone in that sense). Also, I recommend if you just want something to play games on and use on the go like your phone and around the house get an ipad or ipod touch and just use them for playing games (and some light web browsing maybe if you get the ipad and want a larger screen) and your android phone for everything else. Thats what i am personally doing and plan on doing it until android gets a solid gaming platform (crosses fingers for great games on honeycomb!)
G1 came out late October of 2008 right? 2 years? IPhone came out on Late Jun 2007. Although just by a year Iphone did have a head start. Better games are starting to come out for the top of the line android phones. give it some time. Gameloft has some pretty good games. Pocket legends isnt that bad eather.
All I want are the games from adult swim lol
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This is one of the main things that has annoyed me about Android, coming from an iPod Touch to a Samsung Fascinate. Its games selection is pretty small and not very good, especially compared to the iPhone and even Windows Phone 7 to some extent. But since Gingerbread is optimized for gaming, I'm thinking 2011 will be the year for Android gaming. Right now though, developers are going googoo gaga over the iPhone platform and seem to not even acknowledge Android's existence.
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This is one of the main things that has annoyed me about Android, coming from an iPod Touch to a Samsung Fascinate. Its games selection is pretty small and not very good, especially compared to the iPhone and even Windows Phone 7 to some extent. But since Gingerbread is optimized for gaming, I'm thinking 2011 will be the year for Android gaming. Right now though, developers are going googoo gaga over the iPhone platform and seem to not even acknowledge Android's existence.
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Problem with this is will us samsung fascinate users even see gingerbread? at this rate there is no way!
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Android will up the game next year, because platform will get dual cores. Tegra2 looks quite cool right now. It is same as Droid came first with high res, and then Apple followed the suite.
I wonder what Apple has to answer to this? They do not actually produce any parts themselves. And their greed will not allow them to compete in cheaper segments. So, they market share will be reduced, and as such platform appeal.
No matter what Android will level up with iPhone, if not beat it.
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Problem with this is will us samsung fascinate users even see gingerbread? at this rate there is no way!
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We'll have Gingerbread by the time Android is a competitor in the mobile game market.
Ahahahaha nice jokes man.
Now to be honest same game runs better on ios than android, regardless of the hardware specs.
Check out Infinity Blade. its the newest rpg for ios using Unreal Engine.
For me until android gets up to the standards of ios gaming experience. I have my ipod.
Just in case anyone is interested, all ea games are on sale idk how long they have been or will be but I just got sims 3 and need for speed for just .99c a piece
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Have you checked out http://www.gameloft.com? They have some good games. Nothing revolutionary as far as I'm concerned but still they are fun games with great graphics and story lines (Dungen Hunter HD) and they have two great racing games.
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Just in case anyone is interested, all ea games are on sale idk how long they have been or will be but I just got sims 3 and need for speed for just .99c a piece
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Same here, sims 3 is eh, but need for speed it pretty good and runs awesome on our phones.
The entire reason games are not up to par with iOS is because of the size limit of apps on the market. This was just recently increased from 25Mb to 50Mb with the new android market. If you look at games on the app store you will notice some can take up a coupe hundred Megabytes. This allows for more development of games on iOS while android is being limited on the graphical quality and length of most games.
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Fragmentation doesn't help either. Then you have idiots in market complaining that their ally won't run dungeon defenders etc.
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Android is for porn.. My iPad is for mobile gaming..

Apple Games vs. Android Games???

Does anyone notice well im sure you notice but why are Apple Games sooooo much better than Android games i mean seriously its ridiculous. They look better, perform better just an overall better gaming device. Im not willing to leave my Evo or better yet Android fir this it just bothers me and im curious.....
Because they are realizing all that device is good for is games and iTunes.
/sarcasm.... Sort of
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Well yeah they are better but they hard to play sometimes cause of the Damn screen is too small(iPhone user as well) plus there are some expensive as games in Ios, another reason y is because is easier to develop for on device only , same specs as well, Android got all sort of devices and they usually lag in feature/Android phones the EVO might capable of but no al devices will, that's why epic games might not make Android games right now but probably in the future , there are some decent games on Android now tho, the we didn't have before , hopefully developers start deveploping more games for Android tho
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The Apple Apps in general just blow the Android Apps away IMO. I love android, but, they are seriously behind. I never even open my market anymore because it's full of junk.
That said, I agree with the guy above me. One major reason is it is much easier to develop for IOS and one set of hardware than it is with Android. Some of the Android phones are serious garbage (I'm looking at you Samsung Acclaim!) and should never have been released.
Is it bad I wifi tether my Evo to play games on my Ipod, i.e. Words with Friends? I've played it on my Evo, and it's not as smooth. Yes, I'm one of those people that carry 2 devices. I'm not willing to sacrifice a fully customizable OS for a generic one. I give it to Apple for having some good games. BTW has anyone tried Towerbloxx for android? It's like comparing Atari to PS3. Android got the raw end on that deal, as well as many other ports.
I agree its the same reason Google had to wait to include hardware acceleration because not all phones are capable of it...with the next update hopefully this summer we should see much better phones (the evo is already better then any iPhone ) as well as a better environment for app developers and users..
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Is it bad I wifi tether my Evo to play games on my Ipod, i.e. Words with Friends? I've played it on my Evo, and it's not as smooth. Yes, I'm one of those people that carry 2 devices. I'm not willing to sacrifice a fully customizable OS for a generic one. I give it to Apple for having some good games. BTW has anyone tried Towerbloxx for android? It's like comparing Atari to PS3. Android got the raw end on that deal, as well as many other ports.
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I too, always have my Ipod touch to tether to the EVO.
Also something i noticed while playing games on both the Glass itsself feels different. Ipod has a feel i like and the EVO's screen i cant feel it as much. And that little difference to me helps to control games better on the ipod.
How important are games?
I use my phone for business and pleasure, but I don't really play games.
I have a top-of-the-line pc for games, at home...
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I too, always have my Ipod touch to tether to the EVO.
Also something i noticed while playing games on both the Glass itsself feels different. Ipod has a feel i like and the EVO's screen i cant feel it as much. And that little difference to me helps to control games better on the ipod.
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I prefer the feel of my Evo's glass to that of my iPod.
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How about N64oid and Tiger GBA? You don't even have to root to use emulators on Android but you have to jailbreak and jump through other various hoops to emulate on iOS. My favorite game on my phone is Mario 64.
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How important are games?
I use my phone for business and pleasure, but I don't really play games.
I have a top-of-the-line pc for games, at home...
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Games are important enough that the android market is split into 2 sections......apps and GAMES....
Apparently they can be a good source of income for developers, and a great way to pass time....
I use my phone for business and pleasure as well....but I also have a top of the line phone with a huge screen for games and movies.
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I have played the Angry Birds games, but I don't even have them installed anymore. The only game on my EVO right now is Wordfeud (addicted!).
I'm impatiently awaiting: http://www.androidcentral.com/sneak-peek-cut-rope-android
IOS has some pretty dope ass games but i just hate carrying it around all the time so i just stick to my evo but i do wish some of the games on apple would be on android i mean it took months for tap tap 4 to come to android and thats like the only game i really really wanted on the android thats on apples line of games...IOS games are fun but the iPhone is WAY too mainstream for me the evo is a mainstream device but its less mainstream than the iphone so im good haha
Because iOS has real-time low-latency audio (sub 1ms). Android does not.
This is why you see virtual pianos, keyboards, synthesizers, multitrack recording studios, and other music production software only on iOS.
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How about N64oid and Tiger GBA? You don't even have to root to use emulators on Android but you have to jailbreak and jump through other various hoops to emulate on iOS. My favorite game on my phone is Mario 64.
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how well does the N64oid run? i know the GBA, NES, and PSX emulators run pretty smooth
For gaming, android cannot hold a candle to IOS games. I've had iphones before and now the Evo, and while the Evo is a very nice phone, it just can't compete app wise. The market really is a joke, way too much crap on there. Google just needs to enable hardware acceleration, my iphone 2g had that 4 years ago.
Hell the only games I play are Angry Birds, Brick Breaker (not as good at blackberry's but it's still fun), Tetris, Live Holdem Pro, MX Moto and emulator's (mostly gameboid) and my evo does perfectly fine never lags, I played Gun bro's and it didn't lag at all, I don't know why it's such a big deal, I'd rather play graphic intensive games on either the 55" or 40" not a 4.3 lol.
And even on trips when I'm not driving I just bring my laptop or play games like above, I don't see why gaming on a phone is soo important, hell I was stoked back in the day with Snake on all my Nokia's and Brick Breaker on my Blackberry's so games def. don't make my decision weather or not to buy a certain phone.
Can somebody please explain what you guys are talking about?
We have 3 versions of angry birds all of which are free on android yet you have to pay for on ios. We have speedx3d, haypi kingom, mini squadron, gun bros, pew pew, a handful of excellent poker apps, alchemy, robo defense, fruit ninja, Game Dev story... and the list goes on and on and on.
Sure we don't have as many polished games as ios but you have to take in to account how long ios has been out compared to android...Nonetheless we have more than enough games to satisfy just about most peoples preferences and if you're not happy now then you will never be happy with what android has to offer.
Sure we don't have as many polished games as ios but you have to take in to account how long ios has been out compared to android...Nonetheless we have more than enough games to satisfy just about most peoples preferences and if you're not happy now then you will never be happy with what android has to offer.[/QUOTE]
That's not true at all a lot of people are more than happy whit whut Android offers...its just the games needs an upgrade...and all of em need SD card options
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ipod touch games are tailored specifically for the apple hardware and ios. it's like comparing console games to pc games. console games (95% of the time) run smoother on consoles because they're made specifically for consoles and created to take advantage of everything the console has to offer. pc games have to run on a plethora of different hardware and software platforms.

reading so many bad reviews

so i been keeping up with reviews with this phone
http://www.businessinsider.com/xperia-play-review-2011-6
i see nothing but bad reviews for this phone =/ people are saying this phone is weak and handhelds that are out now are more powerful..... i dont see how the psp has a 333mhz cpu 64mb of ram and the ds 133mhz cpu with 16mb of ram
i dont see how this phone is not powerful compared to these? i really like this phone alot better then my epic 4g, ya the screen was pretty but now i dont really noticed it anymore as im use to the play screen, and the speed of my epic was only fast because it was rooted with all bloat ware removed and had CIQ and everything else removed for speed
the reviewers dont like it because there are dual core tegra units out already and this phone is a single core snapdragon with an adreno gpu, sure its not as powerful as the new phones coming out but its plenty enough for the games being thrown at it and to handle psone titles.
i honestly dont care what the reviewers say, i love this phone, its very fast and does everything i need in a nice way, its way better than my old iphone 3g, i love the gamepad, the touch surface takes a while to get used to but its decent as opposed to having to smudge my screen with my fingers
I don't know if you're asking a question or anything, but my Play runs faster than my DInc2 review unit and MUCH better/faster than my Fascinate. I think many people are mad that it didn't come with future-proof dual-cores or even 4G. But as a regular phone with basically stock Gingerbread on Verizon, it runs great and outperforms any phones I've reviewed or owned. The only real slowdown you might notice is multi-tasking, but for me it's really only been on low battery plus lots of apps/games running in the background. Sure, they skipped over any extraordinary features besides the controller, but that's why you get this phone really and it is solidly constructed and plays very well.
That being said, I would love root and custom roms/kernels to make this a beast.
That website likes to bash sony, not going to take him seriously. He should be able comparing the gaming experience between phones.. Not the psp... That's what this was made for... Play some first person shooters not Maiden... And then come to all negative conclusions. Never read a more biased review in my life.
It can play all the games coming out right now... Mainstream is not dual core yet... How many computer games require quad i7s, just because it's out and exists, doesnt mean you need it right away.
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i mean i wish they waited and put at least the 1.2ghz cpu in or the 220 adreno gpu but oh well it has the power to play ps1 games and if sony really wants to make money code psp games to this and throw in some PSN access
Almost all my ifriends who have seen this phone love it.
I love this phone.
Games run fine.
Why play a game on a powerhouse when you still have to comtrol it by touchscreen?
Touchscreen controls are the worst thing to happen to most games. (except angry birds )
If you want a gaming phone, buy this. If you dont want a gaming phone, buy something else.
If sexplay 2 is out when my 2 year contract is up i will easily upgradeg to it. Dont think i could ever go back to a touchscreen only phone now.
Even engadget is suggesting a xperia play 2 indirectly
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Most reviewers don't focus on what this phone is, I've seen a website compare it to a 3DS it's not trying to revolutionise hand held gaming.
It's a mobile phone with a gaming controller and I love it.
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If you enjoy game playing, then this is the sickest thing in the world, so they can all shutup
The bad reviews should not be surprising at all. The Xperia Play is a phone for a pretty niche market even for handheld gaming. Android games are nothing to write home about in terms of quality (please don't mention Gameloft games... I think they're horrible for the most part).
The real boon of this phone has been emulators and the battery life. Coming from a Galaxy S where I had to make sure to not use the screen too often or it wouldn't make it through the day, the Play is amazing. Emulators speak for themselves. In my time commuting I've completed Chrono Trigger, Super Metroid, a few Mario games, and Zelda Minish Cap. Every single one of these is head and shoulders above every single Android title on the market right now.
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Never read a more biased review in my life.
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You should check out anything Sony on IGN. Talk about biased.
I have to agree with some comments on here, the phone is aimed at a pretty niche market and there are more powerful phones already out.
However, I can say that I played a good amount of Android games before and on the Xperia Play I can say you can actually play those games accurately. I don't know how people can struggle with on screen game pads for emulators or even regular games, I never bothered to download any emulators on my previous phone because I knew it wouldn't be enjoyable. The only game I ever completed was Angry Birds because of the basic controls, anything that needed accuracy was impossible.
Anyone that has seen me playing my phone always asks what phone it is. Even non-gaming coworkers are intrigued by it.
This PLAY is awesome.. but unfortunately, i got a defective one.. Only can enjoy games with emu's, and can not update it to 2.3.3 firmware, also can not enjoy gameloft games or any other HD games as it would crash the android OS till the touch screen, power button, wifi, bluetooth, gamepad touch, sdcard not function if i play those games for too long. Have to remove battery to make PLAY works normal again.
Luckily, firmware 2.3.2 (UK version) still makes a bit friendship with my PLAY.. although the android OS crash after playing gameloft or hd games for too long, the touch screen would still work so that i could reboot my PLAY using quickboot app (thanks to deoxlar for recommending the app to solve my removing battery issue after the OS crash)
To be honest I have not seen even one positive review about the Play, the reviewers seem far too concerned about the latest dual core devices even though the Play runs every current game and app the same and thats not even including the gamepad that defines the Play.
It's like none of the reviewers have ever played a game on a mobile device ever, amazing how bad some of those reviewers are, how they got jobs I will never know.
And yeah, the Play is by far the best gaming phone out there thanks to the game pad, no other phone comes close, as a phone it lacks a few features and the hardware may seem a bit dated compared to the very latest phones on the market but make no mistake, this is a fantastic mobile gaming device.
Just a shame SE totally failed at advertising and securing some "must have" games for the device.
Reviews I've seen by gamers love the phone. Those that aren't gamers don't like it because it doesn't come with some word printed on the spec sheet. I've yet to see any performance problems so I'm personally glad it doesn't waste battery life for performance I can't see. But I gave up having to have the latest buzz word item right away many years ago.
In the same way that the handhelds haven't replaced my consoles and the same way the consoles haven't replace my computer, the Play isn't replacing the handelds. The Play certainly replaced my phone and I will never willingly go back to a phone without a game pad on it.
As for the comparisons to the handhelds, why would somebody think I'd carry my 3DS or PSP with me wherever I go like I do with my phone? Who are these people that do this or think this is reasonable?
Screw that son of a hamburger(his name is else hamburger lol )
I am an LG optimus and HTC hd 7 user and im really happy with this phone
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Sigh, most people who have reviewed this phone review it with the crappy pre-installed games. I have hardly played the pre-installed games to busy with emulators and now Samurai II: Vengeance (friggin awesome game ).
I could care less if the hardware feels dated or is not "dual-core" since every game ive tried on the xplay has played extremely well (apart from some Fpse games) but once the xplay gets overclocked (or even if it is not overclocked) im guessing most games for the next two years the xplay will still be better than the touch screen alternatives.
I guess the best reviews are the ones made from people who own the phone. And from what I read on this forum in other place, people are, generally, extremely satisfied. I have one, too and I'm happy as well!
These reviewers say "wait for PS Vita or buy a 3DS". That doesn't make much sense, since I won't carry on my pocket any of these devices, and my phone I carry everywhere I go.
I mainly agree with Clyzm, the bad reviews come because it is a niche product. It destroys any other phone for emulating games, but non-gaming reviewers will not attend to that; it has surprisingly good rear camera and GPS performance, but a reviewer won't spend much time with those features, and the most important thing, its price is outrageous through official channels. In Spain it costs €650 out of contract (ca. $1000). Its brother, the Arc, costs €540; a Samsung Galaxy S II costs €580 and a HTC Sensation fetches €600 (and it's selling way less than the SGS II).
I researched quite a bit and found mine cheap (€400) on eBay Germany: your average consumer is less likely to research as much. If I had paid a thousand bucks for this phone, it'd be already back in the store. This phone does deliver a very good performance where it should: but it lacks a lot of oomph to command such high prices.
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I mainly agree with Clyzm, the bad reviews come because it is a niche product. It destroys any other phone for emulating games, but non-gaming reviewers will not attend to that; it has surprisingly good rear camera and GPS performance, but a reviewer won't spend much time with those features, and the most important thing, its price is outrageous through official channels. In Spain it costs €650 out of contract (ca. $1000). Its brother, the Arc, costs €540; a Samsung Galaxy S II costs €580 and a HTC Sensation fetches €600 (and it's selling way less than the SGS II).
I researched quite a bit and found mine cheap (€400) on eBay Germany: your average consumer is less likely to research as much. If I had paid a thousand bucks for this phone, it'd be already back in the store. This phone does deliver a very good performance where it should: but it lacks a lot of oomph to command such high prices.
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near $1k over there is crazy, you guys are getting the shaft in europe, you can get an unlocked one for around $550 on ebay, i got mine for around $100 on contract but it would have been around $600 if i got one without a contract

[Q] Is the Xperia Play worth Getting?

I am very hesitant in getting that phone, I've heard alot of good things and alot of bad things
I've seen specs and I've seen reviews, but I want to know people's personal opinion as they have the phone for full everyday use and not just reviewing it.
Is it worth it?
My advice do not go for it,you have better options for the same price.even if you are into gaming do not go for it...you can wait for NGP later and get dual core mobile now like galaxy s2/sensation/optimus 2x
I say go for it 4 sure. If you're like me who loves Zelda OOT, buy it! There is nothing like sitting on the subway while kids are playing their angry birds on their iphone while you sit there with your play and play Zelda or tekken 2 It's totally worth it!
everyday phone? Oh yeah! It works great!
Don't listen to that guy talking about dual core. You don't need it on a phone!! seriously, WHY would you need dual core? Everything i've tried on my play works like a charm!
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My advice do not go for it,you have better options for the same price.even if you are into gaming do not go for it...you can wait for NGP later and get dual core mobile now like galaxy s2/sensation/optimus 2x
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Yeah, get a dual core mobile now so you can play the exact same games you can play on the Xperia Play, only with worse controls and worse battery life.
Then get an NGP later so you can carry around two devices for ultimate portability!
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Yeah, get a dual core mobile now so you can play the exact same games you can play on the Xperia Play, only with worse controls and worse battery life.
Then get an NGP later so you can carry around two devices for ultimate portability!
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that was exactly what i meant haaha +1
^^^ I'm being sarcastic in my last post, in case the OP didn't catch that.
I'm very happy with my Play as a gaming phone and everyday phone. My wife has a Droid 3, and there isn't much difference at all, if any, in app performance and daily phone use. I have much better battery life as well. She has a better camera Maybe eventually apps will start taking advantage of multiple cores, but it's going to be a while.
You can't play this game on a touch screen very well...
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I am very hesitant in getting that phone, I've heard alot of good things and alot of bad things
I've seen specs and I've seen reviews, but I want to know people's personal opinion as they have the phone for full everyday use and not just reviewing it.
Is it worth it?
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It is very simple. How much do you value playing both Android-native and emulated games against the rest of features in a phone? If you really want to play games in a phone, this is your device.
If you don't value playing games over dual core CPUs, slick designs, gorgeous screens and feature-rich cameras, you're not the target for this device. It has a very specific niche, which Sony Ericsson has spent millions in digging out. It's a love-it-or-hate-it product, with little middle ground.
Oh, and it has an astonishingly precise GPS.
There are bad points about this phone but show me a perfect phone.
The best 2 things about this phone are obviously the control pad for 1 and the battery life, which has amazed me so far.
The only thing that I find annoying is the lack of decent games taking advantage of what is a great phone.
But I have to say I have started using emulators and they are quality, n64oid and fpse especially.
So to sum up its a great mix up between a gaming device and a smart phone. It is let down on the development side.
It all just depends on what you want if you like gaming I dont think you will be let down in purchasing this phone
Thats my two pennies anyway
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I have an xperia play and a few of my mates have dual core phones (SGS2, Optimus x2 e.t.c). I would not swap the Xplay for any of them.
As hairdewx has shown if you plan on playing anything with FPSE or emulators it is pointless on anything other than an xplay. The emulators alones let you play thousands of games with proper controls (makes it a 1000x better)
The speakers are the best on any phone. And the battery life is amazing to say this is a gaming device. Just using it as a normal phone it is as good as the rest.
I would recommend you get this phone. I think it will be hard for me to upgrade to a newer phone @ the end of my contract, unless it has proper gaming controls . (Xplay 2 hopefully)
Thanks guys I don't know I just might get it the only setback was the lack of an HD screen and the core issue but seems that the people who have the phone are enjoying it, I will see
Just wanted to give a perspective from someone who just bought the phone yesterday.
Waiting in the Verizon store I got the chance to mess with a few other phones. I actually played a couple games on some as well and just took an overall look. So to start lets forget the coolness of the control pad, and also that IMO playing games with motion/touch controls aside from something designed for it like Angry Birds absolutely sucks. Its why I seriously have not been into mobile gaming until now and I'm a big gamer. Just can't stand those controls.
Most of these new 4G dual core phones are huge. Seriously I was playing with one of the new 4G phones and the damn thing was like a doormat it was so big. Meanwhile the Xperia Play dimensionally is almost identical to my OG Droid, but space wise is designed better so that the 4" screen pushes to almost the edges of the device which uses space very well. Fits in my pocket WAY better than those 4G devices with a screen thats only 0.3" smaller.
Next up is speed. The OS is just as responsive on the Play as any of the 4G devices, I'm honestly not sure how much a dual core processor can help on a cellphone especially for normal every day tasks, with an OS that while multitasking, is not like a PC where you can physically have 2+ windows on screen at once. The way Android prioritizes memory, if you are using multiple apps at once, I just don't see there being a possibility of an everyday advantage. Needless to say, touch them side by side, there is NO difference in speed. Which brings me to games. I played a couple on the newer devices, they looked and played the same as on the Play, no faster, no better graphics, no nothing.
Finally would be features, ok so the camera is ok but not as good, 4G where available, is REALLY fast so thats nice as well and if you're in an area its common, and you have a need for that kind of speed, well then its something you should consider. And HDMI out, not on the Play. I personally have no use for it but if you do then theres another loss. So this comes to opinion - IMO the camera is good enough, it does the job, its a cell phone not a Canon. 4G? I live in the NY metro area basically where 4G service should be mostly available but its spotty, meanwhile WiFi is everywhere, and everywhere I'd sit and use it I have WiFi (my home, my folks house, my firehouse etc), when I travel I book hotels that have free WiFi, also my ISP provides open WiFi in many areas. Also I have no shame I use peoples open WiFi signals if I have to, so honestly I don't miss the speed there. 3G really isn't THAT bad either, however its a compromise, and I'm sure outside of this area it could be a problem for some. Then HDMI out, I bet I'd try it out for a novelty but I'd probably never use it. I have a PS3, I watch movies on my big screen from that or my PC with HDMI out.
And 2 things I've said above become an advantage for the Play, no 4G and no Dual core = better battery life.
So all in all I don't for a second regret the purchase, you get 95% of the performance of a 4G phone, with the advantage of better battery life, and the completely awesome built in control pad. If you want to game, its a no brainer.
When I saw the title of the thread I opened it to give my opinion about this phone. But when I read the previous answers, all that I wanted to say had already been said, so I gave up writing a big text because I don't have anything new to say!
Then I'll only say that it's an awesome phone, buy it without any fear, you won't regret it.
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If you're like me who loves Zelda OOT, buy it! There is nothing like sitting on the subway while kids are playing their angry birds on their iphone while you sit there with your play and play Zelda or tekken 2 It's totally worth it!
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WTF! did you get a stable enough N64 emu (not to mention enough ram to run the rom) I have a GBA SNES NES GameGear and Genesis, but i cant find a good (preferably free at least till applanets back up) 64emu anywhere....and how are you running tekken two though all the psx emus crash cause of sony releasing this phone....oh and as long as you plan to plug the thing in everynight for like 8 hours (although 2.3.3 update fixes that a small amount if you dont game or browse or call or well pretty much emulate any sort of energy from it) than dont buy this phone really takes a commitment, i hate that i bought it then found out motorolla is releasing the droid 3(name changes between SP's) with HDMI out 1Ghz process 8mp cam rear and ii believie dont quote 3.2 front (might have been 2.3 or somewhere goin on memory of specs) THAT IS THE PHONE YOU WANT IF YOU ARE STILL LOOKING but release does depend on SP Bell got it first! havent folllowed up on it much just pisses me off that i bought a damn sony product over a 3ds.......oh and sorry if i repeated anyfacts
It is my favorite device. I just put in 2 hours of Beyond the Beyond without any awful on screen controls or bluetooth shenanigans.
Sound quality is spectacular too, as is the battery life.
The only thing that could use some improvement is the camera.
If you enjoy games more than just casually and really enjoy emulation, there is no other real option IMHO.
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WTF! did you get a stable enough N64 emu (not to mention enough ram to run the rom) I have a GBA SNES NES GameGear and Genesis, but i cant find a good (preferably free at least till applanets back up) 64emu anywhere....and how are you running tekken two though all the psx emus crash cause of sony releasing this phone....oh and as long as you plan to plug the thing in everynight for like 8 hours (although 2.3.3 update fixes that a small amount if you dont game or browse or call or well pretty much emulate any sort of energy from it) than dont buy this phone really takes a commitment, i hate that i bought it then found out motorolla is releasing the droid 3(name changes between SP's) with HDMI out 1Ghz process 8mp cam rear and ii believie dont quote 3.2 front (might have been 2.3 or somewhere goin on memory of specs) THAT IS THE PHONE YOU WANT IF YOU ARE STILL LOOKING but release does depend on SP Bell got it first! havent folllowed up on it much just pisses me off that i bought a damn sony product over a 3ds.......oh and sorry if i repeated anyfacts
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N64oid v2 runs alot of roms pretty perfect now, and fpse eats tekken alive, infact i havent found one ps1 rom it dosent run pefectly
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Sound quality is spectacular too, as is the battery life.
The only thing that could use some improvement is the camera.
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K Sound Agreed, Battery however i would like to know what miracle device you are using to keep it powered cause even with the 2.3.3 update which i wont le improved battery life significantly, i dont find its able to keep up with the demand especially noticable when streaming data i.e. skyFM or TuneInRadio(awsome app by the way for a phone with no FM reciever any radio station you could imagine....from all 7 contenent...yes there is a sat radio station based in antarctica for the 12 people that are ever there at one time, sheesh im Canadian and i say no thanks to that lol sorry off topic tired and ranting), and camera is decent quality 5.0mp front is only1.2 so self portraits are a little grainy i find, but none the less i have to agreee it could use more features to the actual cam its self
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N64oid v2 runs alot of roms pretty perfect now, and fpse eats tekken alive, infact i havent found one ps1 rom it dosent run pefectly
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didnt know N64oid v2 was out thanks!, and as for the ps one emu i think i might just steal whatever games they release seeing as i pretty much bought a psone in a phone seems a little redundant to download a program on top of that....just cant wait to see if they find a way to release FFVII and VIII to the phone
Just get an android phone you like
to the guy who started this thread truely you just want an android phone PERIOD with it dominating over 50% of the smart phone generation other companies are trying to figure a way to eat a piece of googles pie....ie rumors which are now apparently confimed (which i havent seen first hand knowledge) but the iPhone 5(BOOO) is set to release with BBM installed, and we all know android with get it first probably for free with some sort if ad support....its like comparing a PS3 to Xbox360 its just not necessary 360 wins in every department like android.(minus blueray but you can obvi get a cheap one of those now to make up for it)
Anyone interested
found a decent site on app creation for android....vogella.de/articles/Android/article.html
sorry bout not making it a link apparently i havent posted enough for our Naziesq forum rules
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to the guy who started this thread truely you just want an android phone PERIOD with it dominating over 50% of the smart phone generation other companies are trying to figure a way to eat a piece of googles pie....ie rumors which are now apparently confimed (which i havent seen first hand knowledge) but the iPhone 5(BOOO) is set to release with BBM installed, and we all know android with get it first probably for free with some sort if ad support....its like comparing a PS3 to Xbox360 its just not necessary 360 wins in every department like android.(minus blueray but you can obvi get a cheap one of those now to make up for it)
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Haven't you pissed on this guy's thread enough? Then you come into a forum with people who are obvious playstation and Sony fans and say the Xbox360 "wins in every department" which is so untrue its not even funny but I'm not getting into that flame war here.
You don't seem to like the phone much, and you don't seem to like PS much, door is to the left, go buy another phone then.

Does anyone else feel like the xplay sucks for FPS?

I love me some modern combat. But where is was good with the touchscreen on my old phones I feel like I get my ass handed to me constantly. I have had my xplay for 6 months now and play mc most of the time. So far I just feel like I am the fish in the barrel getting shot at. Playing campaign no worries. Online and I just get pissed off. Plus I find it total bs to see people getting g 53 frickin kills in a100 kill game.
Those touchpads are hideous. Sure, they'll work in a pinch, but trying to play against other people using them? No way. Can we convert them into thumbsticks at all? Any sort of accessory?
There are two versions of MC2.one with good controls and one with horrible (shadowgun) controlls. I find playing online enjoyable and I always finish in the top 3...altho that might be my sweet fps skills
Hardly. Developers can suck at using the touchpads properly, but the actual technology is great. Starting off as a total scrub on Modern Combat 3 online, I was pulling off scores and manuevers that I have never been able to do on any other handheld FPS.
EDIT: and yeah, MC2 would give a bad impression if you had any update after 3.3.9 (they started the version count back to 1.0.4+ in all the "broken" new versions).
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The games are great, MC3, Dead Space, etc but yes I find it difficult to play these games using the 'analogue / touchpads / etc' thingys I can only describe as 'male nipples'!
I'm impressed with the games itself, the graphics for a phone is impressive but until we have better nipples to play with I'm gonna stick to emulators or games that don't use them
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maddog00 said:
Those touchpads are hideous. Sure, they'll work in a pinch, but trying to play against other people using them? No way. Can we convert them into thumbsticks at all? Any sort of accessory?
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Sorry I was reffering to Modern Combat 3. I specifically use the older Modern Combat 2 version where the controls were decent, the version prior to GL destroying the controls. But yeah sorry I should have clarified I am strickly meaning MC3. And I wrote this thread after I just got out of a online game where everyone was like 7 or 8 kills and one guy had 53 kills which I think is bumpkiss. Anyone know if Iphone users and android users play online together? Reason I ask is becuase Iphone users are able to hack their games to do all sorts of stuff, run faster faster, shoot fire out of a handgun, all head shots, etc. Also I really wish that GL would allow users to play against other users within the same rank online. Its BS when you see new inexperienced users playing aginst others far more experienced. It makes online play not fun at all, and I have emailed GL asking them to implement a ranking system that lets you play with other users of similar rank. Never got a reply, of course.
Oh and if it seemed like my first post sounded angry I was. I was pissed and frustrated, this is/was a pissed off thread I was venting. Guess I was just mad because people tell me " I wont play a shooting game with you because you have a PSP phone and you will kick my ass", but my ass is the only one that gets kicked online. Again not mad anymore just annoyed. I play online constantly. If anyone wants to play online with me some time my GL username is the same as my XDA username. Hope to see you all on the Digital Battlefield.
The first games on the Xperia play had little to no support for those touch pads, they were rubbish, Although now, a lot of developers are working it out, Take EA, they have great games for the xperia play.
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The first games on the Xperia play had little to no support for those touch pads, they were rubbish, Although now, a lot of developers are working it out, Take EA, they have great games for the xperia play.
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I agree. EA has done an awesome job with the controls. Much better on their first attempts then GL and they 7 or 8th attempt. Dead Space has excellent use of the controls. And the graphics are sweet. I am really looking forward to The Virtual Tennis by Sega. I still play my Dreamcast to this day and have great times with the Tennis game on it.
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I should have clarified I am strickly meaning MC3. And I wrote this thread after I just got out of a online game where everyone was like 7 or 8 kills and one guy had 53 kills which I think is bumpkiss. Anyone know if Iphone users and android users play online together? Reason I ask is becuase Iphone users are able to hack their games to do all sorts of stuff, run faster faster, shoot fire out of a handgun, all head shots, etc.
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Well with the iPhone players can use the gyroscope for aiming. That would give them a huge edge but I don't think that that's the case because GL would heavily advertise(yeah I'm American, Yank, fat, whatever *yawn*) that it has cross play.
People can hack and cheat on Android as easily as they do on iOS. I saw a guy who could run 10x faster than every else but I didn't report him because he was on my team and we won because of him lol. And besides, GL will most likely not respond to my email or do anything about it...
I've seen guys get 40+ kills with nothing but headshots. While I do accept that there are guys that are that good, I highly doubt that they would spend the amount of time that they do on MC3 instead Call of Duty (unless they'are cheating of course).
I've seen people cheat on other Android games.
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Well with the iPhone players can use the gyroscope for aiming. That would give them a huge edge...
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Have you ever tried using the gyroscopic aiming? It's really not practical at all. Matter of fact, pretty much everyone I've shown it to on my iPod Touch thinks it's a horrible gimmick that they'd never use seriously.
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Have you ever tried using the gyroscopic aiming? It's really not practical at all. Matter of fact, pretty much everyone I've shown it to on my iPod Touch thinks it's a horrible gimmick that they'd never use seriously.
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I have an iPod Touch as well. Once you've master gyroscopic controls on a fps, it'll make you a formidable foe. It's easier to look around and get headshots.
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Dead Space works flawlessly with the Touch Analog pads.
Thing is with some games it doesn't work that well such as Gameloft games.
Well obviously,it doesn't have analog sticks.
Those touch pads are there so you won't cover the screen with your moving thumbs,not just to mimic analog sticks.
Has anyone tried the icontrol pad analog sticks? They have to be better than these "man nips" lol
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Ok guys heres the word on the street.
TLDRTheory loves the touch pads. he thinks the are the best thing since sliced blogna...
The only game I find enjoyable / easy to use is FIFA 12 or other overhead games like age of zombie / fifia 12
The FPS games suck, the only one ever considered decent by gamers was Rainbow 6 and even then it's like way to ****ty. Without auto aim you can barely get a lock on a moving target and I'm not joking.
I guess it's a fair deal tho because everyone has to stop moving to take aim so really everyone is at a disadvantage because of the sloppy game system
My opinion is that the control things are crap. Even if the developer can use them right most of the time it's hard as hell and not even fun anymore.
Whats the point in playing a game if no fun? Yup exactly, NONE!
so yeah I agree with OP. FPS on this game are ****e
even the "good" ones still have problems because of the nature of the beast.
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Ok guys heres the word on the street.
TLDRTheory loves the touch pads. he thinks the are the best thing since sliced blogna...
The only game I find enjoyable / easy to use is FIFA 12 or other overhead games like age of zombie / fifia 12
The FPS games suck, the only one ever considered decent by gamers was Rainbow 6 and even then it's like way to ****ty. Without auto aim you can barely get a lock on a moving target and I'm not joking.
I guess it's a fair deal tho because everyone has to stop moving to take aim so really everyone is at a disadvantage because of the sloppy game system
My opinion is that the control things are crap. Even if the developer can use them right most of the time it's hard as hell and not even fun anymore.
Whats the point in playing a game if no fun? Yup exactly, NONE!
so yeah I agree with OP. FPS on this game are ****e
even the "good" ones still have problems because of the nature of the beast.
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I do love playing FPS shooters on the Xplay im just saying it feels like despite the fact you would think we have an advantage over touchscreen users, it seems like we are the ones at a disadvantage. Maybe if a developer makes a FPS and does an ass kicking job in tweaking the touchpads we might have an edge then... but again if that or when that happens
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Ok guys heres the word on the street.
TLDRTheory loves the touch pads. he thinks the are the best thing since sliced blogna...
The only game I find enjoyable / easy to use is FIFA 12 or other overhead games like age of zombie / fifia 12
The FPS games suck, the only one ever considered decent by gamers was Rainbow 6 and even then it's like way to ****ty. Without auto aim you can barely get a lock on a moving target and I'm not joking.
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*Yawn* ...oh, you again.
First of all, the saying is "Best thing since sliced bread," and I've never said anything about being in love with them. When put in the hands of a competent developer, they serve their purpose. Just because I say they work doesn't mean I prefer them over a more tactile solution.
For what it's worth, I'd actually have rather had twin analogs more akin to what's featured on the iControlPad... but since Xperia PLAY's software support is about 5x more than what iControlPad has, Xperia PLAY it is.
Second, have you played any FPS released in the past decade? Even the most popular, most highly acclaimed series out (Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3) integrates auto-aim, so you've already failed if what you aim to prove is that Xperia PLAY's integrates auto-aim out of poor quality.
Even still, it's not like auto-aim is a necessity to have precise aiming on Xperia PLAY. Dead Space on Xperia PLAY already proved that; without a doubt, there's a such thing as a control scheme competent enough such that you can lock on for headshots without having computer-aided guidance.
Yeah, some games need auto-aim... but that's because their touchpad integration wasn't made as responsive as EA's was in Dead Space. If Gameloft ever stepped up to that level, Modern Combat, Shadow Vanguard, NOVA 2, BiA2 and all the rest could ditch their aim assistance... that's a developer-side issue, not a fault of the hardware.
I guess I'm in the minority but I feel the control pad is an advantage. I generally suck at FPS games but having played MC2 online numerous times, I have had quite a few matches where I held my own. I never really got frustrated about not being able to get kills, and I enjoy them. Either the people I'm playing against suck, or theres something good to these analog touchpads. Just my 2 cents....
I think it's really bad with Modern Combat 3, I hate touch screen controls, but the analog sticks are just way below par. Minecraft on the other hand, feels like a dream!
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I do love playing FPS shooters on the Xplay im just saying it feels like despite the fact you would think we have an advantage over touchscreen users, it seems like we are the ones at a disadvantage. Maybe if a developer makes a FPS and does an ass kicking job in tweaking the touchpads we might have an edge then... but again if that or when that happens
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amen brotha word up
that is the truth speek
I play shadow gun without da analog sticks
it's much easier to get da headshot on da alien muffs without them
using them it's like it never be landing the reticle rite on da head of da bloke
the only games I like using it for are ones where accuracy dont matta like age of zombies or summin

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