Apple Games vs. Android Games??? - EVO 4G General

Does anyone notice well im sure you notice but why are Apple Games sooooo much better than Android games i mean seriously its ridiculous. They look better, perform better just an overall better gaming device. Im not willing to leave my Evo or better yet Android fir this it just bothers me and im curious.....

Because they are realizing all that device is good for is games and iTunes.
/sarcasm.... Sort of
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Well yeah they are better but they hard to play sometimes cause of the Damn screen is too small(iPhone user as well) plus there are some expensive as games in Ios, another reason y is because is easier to develop for on device only , same specs as well, Android got all sort of devices and they usually lag in feature/Android phones the EVO might capable of but no al devices will, that's why epic games might not make Android games right now but probably in the future , there are some decent games on Android now tho, the we didn't have before , hopefully developers start deveploping more games for Android tho
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The Apple Apps in general just blow the Android Apps away IMO. I love android, but, they are seriously behind. I never even open my market anymore because it's full of junk.
That said, I agree with the guy above me. One major reason is it is much easier to develop for IOS and one set of hardware than it is with Android. Some of the Android phones are serious garbage (I'm looking at you Samsung Acclaim!) and should never have been released.

Is it bad I wifi tether my Evo to play games on my Ipod, i.e. Words with Friends? I've played it on my Evo, and it's not as smooth. Yes, I'm one of those people that carry 2 devices. I'm not willing to sacrifice a fully customizable OS for a generic one. I give it to Apple for having some good games. BTW has anyone tried Towerbloxx for android? It's like comparing Atari to PS3. Android got the raw end on that deal, as well as many other ports.

I agree its the same reason Google had to wait to include hardware acceleration because not all phones are capable of it...with the next update hopefully this summer we should see much better phones (the evo is already better then any iPhone ) as well as a better environment for app developers and users..
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rdavis3052 said:
Is it bad I wifi tether my Evo to play games on my Ipod, i.e. Words with Friends? I've played it on my Evo, and it's not as smooth. Yes, I'm one of those people that carry 2 devices. I'm not willing to sacrifice a fully customizable OS for a generic one. I give it to Apple for having some good games. BTW has anyone tried Towerbloxx for android? It's like comparing Atari to PS3. Android got the raw end on that deal, as well as many other ports.
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I too, always have my Ipod touch to tether to the EVO.
Also something i noticed while playing games on both the Glass itsself feels different. Ipod has a feel i like and the EVO's screen i cant feel it as much. And that little difference to me helps to control games better on the ipod.

How important are games?
I use my phone for business and pleasure, but I don't really play games.
I have a top-of-the-line pc for games, at home...

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I too, always have my Ipod touch to tether to the EVO.
Also something i noticed while playing games on both the Glass itsself feels different. Ipod has a feel i like and the EVO's screen i cant feel it as much. And that little difference to me helps to control games better on the ipod.
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I prefer the feel of my Evo's glass to that of my iPod.
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How about N64oid and Tiger GBA? You don't even have to root to use emulators on Android but you have to jailbreak and jump through other various hoops to emulate on iOS. My favorite game on my phone is Mario 64.
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nabbed said:
How important are games?
I use my phone for business and pleasure, but I don't really play games.
I have a top-of-the-line pc for games, at home...
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Games are important enough that the android market is split into 2 sections......apps and GAMES....
Apparently they can be a good source of income for developers, and a great way to pass time....
I use my phone for business and pleasure as well....but I also have a top of the line phone with a huge screen for games and movies.
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I have played the Angry Birds games, but I don't even have them installed anymore. The only game on my EVO right now is Wordfeud (addicted!).
I'm impatiently awaiting: http://www.androidcentral.com/sneak-peek-cut-rope-android

IOS has some pretty dope ass games but i just hate carrying it around all the time so i just stick to my evo but i do wish some of the games on apple would be on android i mean it took months for tap tap 4 to come to android and thats like the only game i really really wanted on the android thats on apples line of games...IOS games are fun but the iPhone is WAY too mainstream for me the evo is a mainstream device but its less mainstream than the iphone so im good haha

Because iOS has real-time low-latency audio (sub 1ms). Android does not.
This is why you see virtual pianos, keyboards, synthesizers, multitrack recording studios, and other music production software only on iOS.

david black said:
How about N64oid and Tiger GBA? You don't even have to root to use emulators on Android but you have to jailbreak and jump through other various hoops to emulate on iOS. My favorite game on my phone is Mario 64.
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how well does the N64oid run? i know the GBA, NES, and PSX emulators run pretty smooth

For gaming, android cannot hold a candle to IOS games. I've had iphones before and now the Evo, and while the Evo is a very nice phone, it just can't compete app wise. The market really is a joke, way too much crap on there. Google just needs to enable hardware acceleration, my iphone 2g had that 4 years ago.

Hell the only games I play are Angry Birds, Brick Breaker (not as good at blackberry's but it's still fun), Tetris, Live Holdem Pro, MX Moto and emulator's (mostly gameboid) and my evo does perfectly fine never lags, I played Gun bro's and it didn't lag at all, I don't know why it's such a big deal, I'd rather play graphic intensive games on either the 55" or 40" not a 4.3 lol.
And even on trips when I'm not driving I just bring my laptop or play games like above, I don't see why gaming on a phone is soo important, hell I was stoked back in the day with Snake on all my Nokia's and Brick Breaker on my Blackberry's so games def. don't make my decision weather or not to buy a certain phone.

Can somebody please explain what you guys are talking about?
We have 3 versions of angry birds all of which are free on android yet you have to pay for on ios. We have speedx3d, haypi kingom, mini squadron, gun bros, pew pew, a handful of excellent poker apps, alchemy, robo defense, fruit ninja, Game Dev story... and the list goes on and on and on.
Sure we don't have as many polished games as ios but you have to take in to account how long ios has been out compared to android...Nonetheless we have more than enough games to satisfy just about most peoples preferences and if you're not happy now then you will never be happy with what android has to offer.

Sure we don't have as many polished games as ios but you have to take in to account how long ios has been out compared to android...Nonetheless we have more than enough games to satisfy just about most peoples preferences and if you're not happy now then you will never be happy with what android has to offer.[/QUOTE]
That's not true at all a lot of people are more than happy whit whut Android offers...its just the games needs an upgrade...and all of em need SD card options
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ipod touch games are tailored specifically for the apple hardware and ios. it's like comparing console games to pc games. console games (95% of the time) run smoother on consoles because they're made specifically for consoles and created to take advantage of everything the console has to offer. pc games have to run on a plethora of different hardware and software platforms.

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Evo as gaming device

I was curious as to how many are using their Evo as a gaming device as well as its other uses. I started off playing some of the simple arcade and puzzle style games but I have recently been playing a couple of fps games from gameloft and I realize that there is a lot of potential for the evo if the developers will continue with it.
I'm playing home run battle 3d and a couple of other games.
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Yeah I have been playing quite a bit of old NES games with nesoid.
CM6 + wiimote + wii steering wheel + gps dash mount + dremel + gorilla glue = emulator fun. I have been mostly playing old SNES games, but I have a 40 minute bus ride to & from work so I have to kill the time somehow.
Until I saw the demo for NOVA and Sandstorm I never realized that 3d gaming had come so far for android. Those are the 2 main games that I am playing right now.
It's perfect for RPG's which is my favorite type of games. Play final fantasy tactics as we speak. I never owned a ps1 myself so theres a lot of rpg games for me to play.
Am I the only who likes Meteor Blitz? It's just about my favorite handheld game of all time! Like a Geometry Wars mobile.
PSXDroid is pretty nice. I continually encounter graphical glitches though, which is utterly annoying.
SandStorm is neat, Nova is a fun FPS as well. Pretty much most of Gamelofts releases are enjoyable. Well, minus Assassin's Creed.
There's a guy working on Starcraft for Android, but I think the projects gone dead in the water.
Finally, Quake III on Android. Or, Kwaak3
Also, this may not be the best place to post anything about iOS, because I know quick people can be to hate on the iPhone. But Steve Jobs aside, who else is impressed by Epic Game's Infinity Blade and Mutant Bash TV by Id running on the Rage iOS engine?
I'm totally floored by it to be honest. Had no idea a 1GHz processor with 512MB RAM could achieve graphics on this level.
It's only a matter of time before a company creates an engine like this for Android Devices. Development is either already in the works or right around the corner.
*Cough* PSP Phone *Cough*
The prospects are incredible! The only thing that bugs me is that I use to play my old GameBoys till the battery died when I was out and about. It will just really suck if I do the same with my EVO. That would put my day dead in the water if I didn't have a back up battery or wall outlet near by....
I am waiting patiently for oooecao to release their games!
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ElAguila said:
Until I saw the demo for NOVA and Sandstorm I never realized that 3d gaming had come so far for android. Those are the 2 main games that I am playing right now.
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I second that, I'm playing nova as well and it runs smooth with no hiccups.
ElAguila said:
I am waiting patiently for oooecao to release their games!
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Elaborate,
Google search = Nothing
I'm curious.
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Am I the only who likes Meteor Blitz? It's just about my favorite handheld game of all time! Like a Geometry Wars mobile.
PSXDroid is pretty nice. I continually encounter graphical glitches though, which is utterly annoying.
SandStorm is neat, Nova is a fun FPS as well. Pretty much most of Gamelofts releases are enjoyable. Well, minus Assassin's Creed.
There's a guy working on Starcraft for Android, but I think the projects gone dead in the water.
Finally, Quake III on Android. Or, Kwaak3
Also, this may not be the best place to post anything about iOS, because I know quick people can be to hate on the iPhone. But Steve Jobs aside, who else is impressed by Epic Game's Infinity Blade and Mutant Bash TV by Id running on the Rage iOS engine?
I'm totally floored by it to be honest. Had no idea a 1GHz processor with 512MB RAM could achieve graphics on this level.
It's only a matter of time before a company creates an engine like this for Android Devices. Development is either already in the works or right around the corner.
*Cough* PSP Phone *Cough*
The prospects are incredible! The only thing that bugs me is that I use to play my old GameBoys till the battery died when I was out and about. It will just really suck if I do the same with my EVO. That would put my day dead in the water if I didn't have a back up battery or wall outlet near by....
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Those iOS games are insane, I can't wait till we have them on Android. Epic has already demoed their Unreal Engine on Android so we will definitely have some sick games coming soon.
BTW, what ROM/theme are you running in the pic in your sig?
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Those iOS games are insane, I can't wait till we have them on Android. Epic has already demoed their Unreal Engine on Android so we will definitely have some sick games coming soon.
BTW, what ROM/theme are you running in the pic in your sig?
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I know, they just need to come out with a decent controller for handheld devices. I almost want to go out and pick up a WiiMote just for my EVO. I have a PS3 controller but I've read that it will probably never happen because of technicalities with bluetooth between the two. I use my PS3 Controller to play Halo on my Netbook, so much fun! Makes airplane flights a breeze.
Just put a vice grip on a pad with a few buttons and put on a MicroUSB connector with an input on the pad for charging and call it done.
I keep reading about people whom have tested some of these Rage iOS games complaining that the controls blow. Especially Mutant Bash TV, it's tilt shift. I mean REALLY!? I tend to get p'd off at DoodleJump, let alone an FPS.
Stock ROM, unREVOked. Theme is custom.
Better off with a epic, you got the keyboard for controls and better GPU.
which is my problem... I don't use my phone for gaming, so it has no use for me lol
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Better off with a epic, you got the keyboard for controls and better GPU.
which is my problem... I don't use my phone for gaming, so it has no use for me lol
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Lol, 4 of my friends recently jumped on to the Epic from TP2's (we all get the same phones, its kinda wierd) But i have an Evo. I play games on mine and its pretty good, but i tell them that games play better on the Epic due to the GPU/CPU and none of them play games, haha.
I got the usual great android games on plus, snesoid,nesoid,gensoid, psx4droid. The emulators are much better when rooted with a kernel that allows for better multi touch,(I'm currently on kings bfs11). I have hundreds games just between the emulators. I would consider psx4droid unplayable unless u had such a kernel. The biggest problem with playing the games is the lack of better multi touch, and thats y I will never b unrooted again.
Swyped from my Evo
they need to change up the controllers. Instead of using the forward, back, left, right motions on the screen, use the gyroscope to do those, and then in the left hand have the movement of the gun, and in the right hand, have the shooting or w/e.
Has anyone here tried Heavy Gunner?
I've been on a real gaming spree ever since I got the Evo!
Super K.O Boxing is really nice
SpeedX 3D is my favorite!
N.O.V.A was a b*t*h to get working, but it's by far the most graphically intense game.
Caligo Chaser is alright if you like more cartoony RPGs. The best part of the game is that when you adjust your gear it visually reflects on the character, lots of choices too!
Fruit Ninja is a fun, friendly style, potentially competitive style game
I just tried Meteor Blitz, thanks for the recommendation! I do wish the movement controls were less sensitive however.
Android is a fantastic platform for gaming, unfortunately it's not the only one and developers are limited
I tried a couple of the emulators but the game rom's I downloaded showed the game on a tiny screen and the controls did not work well at all. I guess I need to try some different games roms. Sandstorm is as graphically intensive as NOVA if not more so. I tried Avatar but the gameplay was a little confusing for me at times. Bottom line is that android is a great gaming platform and the Evo is a good hard device for gaming. I have a kindle and a zuneHD and was getting ready to get a psp. Now the Evo is truly an all in one device for me. It will do what all of those will do. Sure it uses a lot of battery but I would rather switch batteries during the day than to cary 3 or 4 devices and chargers when I travel.
MMORPG: Pocket Legends. That thang was just released today.
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so why is it so hard to get Need for speed shift? why not in the market? why are there no good games in the market? on my old iphone i played many awesome games like nfsshift, street fighter 4, fifa soccer, chaos rings most of all Grand theft Auto chinatown wars. when i look in the market, there a bunch of crappy games, i mean common no words with friends or scrabble or bejeweled? my opinion, get a 64 gb ipod touch, you get your games and great music integration with itunes, plus 32gb extra possible storage. and its thin. i love my evo but no-matter what mods i do to it its not good at graphic intensive stuff, i cant even run the ocean waves wallpaper without it choppin like Jackie chan.
p.s. also looked for pocket legends, nothing in market for that either

Android games not "up to par"?

Anyone else feel like the games that are available for the Android system overall are nothing more than just non-smartphone games? As I look through the available games I haven't really seen one that is any better than what I used to be able to get for my regular old flip phone 5 years ago.. My buddy has an Iphone and he has games like Madden '11 and similar games that have pretty decent graphics and good game play.. why aren't we seeing this for the android system?
*I am aware that with the newest Droid X update they released Madden '11, but why not for all phones?
Some phones can't handle the graphics
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How long was the iPhone out before games were available? Probably close to a year until good games came along? While android has been out for a while, it wasn't really mainstream until the original Droid was released on VZW, which is just over a year ago. Good games are starting to show up, but the quantity isn't so great right now. I'd say give it another 3-6 months and more games will start showing up. Gingerbread should further improve this with the added game controls in the OS.
Dude, GetJar gives away Modern Combat today
http://www.gameloft.com/
I've seen pretty decent games for Android. Thought I'm not a gamer at all.
CNemo7539 said:
Dude, GetJar gives away Modern Combat today
http://www.gameloft.com/
I've seen pretty decent games for Android. Thought I'm not a gamer at all.
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The giveaway is only the demo.
I guess it's enough to judge about the quality? ;-)
i agree with you completely compared to iOS the games on android haven't caught up yet but personally i believe this is a small price to pay for having an open source ecosystem. This is why I like android phones more than the iphone itself but i do not condemn the people that get them as android may not be their cup of tea (i personally recommend android phones to my friends that are techie or at least somewhat fluent in using a regular computer while anyone that would be lost in setting menus looking for a way to change their ringtone for calls get an iphone as it is more like a regular dumbphone in that sense). Also, I recommend if you just want something to play games on and use on the go like your phone and around the house get an ipad or ipod touch and just use them for playing games (and some light web browsing maybe if you get the ipad and want a larger screen) and your android phone for everything else. Thats what i am personally doing and plan on doing it until android gets a solid gaming platform (crosses fingers for great games on honeycomb!)
G1 came out late October of 2008 right? 2 years? IPhone came out on Late Jun 2007. Although just by a year Iphone did have a head start. Better games are starting to come out for the top of the line android phones. give it some time. Gameloft has some pretty good games. Pocket legends isnt that bad eather.
All I want are the games from adult swim lol
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This is one of the main things that has annoyed me about Android, coming from an iPod Touch to a Samsung Fascinate. Its games selection is pretty small and not very good, especially compared to the iPhone and even Windows Phone 7 to some extent. But since Gingerbread is optimized for gaming, I'm thinking 2011 will be the year for Android gaming. Right now though, developers are going googoo gaga over the iPhone platform and seem to not even acknowledge Android's existence.
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This is one of the main things that has annoyed me about Android, coming from an iPod Touch to a Samsung Fascinate. Its games selection is pretty small and not very good, especially compared to the iPhone and even Windows Phone 7 to some extent. But since Gingerbread is optimized for gaming, I'm thinking 2011 will be the year for Android gaming. Right now though, developers are going googoo gaga over the iPhone platform and seem to not even acknowledge Android's existence.
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Problem with this is will us samsung fascinate users even see gingerbread? at this rate there is no way!
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Android will up the game next year, because platform will get dual cores. Tegra2 looks quite cool right now. It is same as Droid came first with high res, and then Apple followed the suite.
I wonder what Apple has to answer to this? They do not actually produce any parts themselves. And their greed will not allow them to compete in cheaper segments. So, they market share will be reduced, and as such platform appeal.
No matter what Android will level up with iPhone, if not beat it.
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Problem with this is will us samsung fascinate users even see gingerbread? at this rate there is no way!
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We'll have Gingerbread by the time Android is a competitor in the mobile game market.
Ahahahaha nice jokes man.
Now to be honest same game runs better on ios than android, regardless of the hardware specs.
Check out Infinity Blade. its the newest rpg for ios using Unreal Engine.
For me until android gets up to the standards of ios gaming experience. I have my ipod.
Just in case anyone is interested, all ea games are on sale idk how long they have been or will be but I just got sims 3 and need for speed for just .99c a piece
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Have you checked out http://www.gameloft.com? They have some good games. Nothing revolutionary as far as I'm concerned but still they are fun games with great graphics and story lines (Dungen Hunter HD) and they have two great racing games.
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Just in case anyone is interested, all ea games are on sale idk how long they have been or will be but I just got sims 3 and need for speed for just .99c a piece
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Same here, sims 3 is eh, but need for speed it pretty good and runs awesome on our phones.
The entire reason games are not up to par with iOS is because of the size limit of apps on the market. This was just recently increased from 25Mb to 50Mb with the new android market. If you look at games on the app store you will notice some can take up a coupe hundred Megabytes. This allows for more development of games on iOS while android is being limited on the graphical quality and length of most games.
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Fragmentation doesn't help either. Then you have idiots in market complaining that their ally won't run dungeon defenders etc.
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Android is for porn.. My iPad is for mobile gaming..

Cordy Gameplay Video - Xperia Play

This is just a tester to check it works ok,
Video took using the HTC Desire S, pretty good video recorder actually!
Cordy Gamesplay - Xperia Play
......And what is the point to this video?
gunstar3035 said:
......And what is the point to this video?
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To show how the Play makes a mug of coffee, what do you think?!
Maybe the point is to show how Cordy looks plays and runs on the Xperia Play? you know, people that might not own a Play yet and want to know how the games run? jeez....
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To show how the Play makes a mug of coffee, what do you think?!
Maybe the point is to show how Cordy looks plays and runs on the Xperia Play? you know, people that might not own a Play yet and want to know how the games run? jeez....
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Ignore the canadians, there all angry because they think scott is a **** lol
i wasnt posting on this because i didnt want to bump it, but now that its up.....
really i think ive seen youtube videos of the same thing with better cameras. we know the Play can Play.

			
				
allright the pandemonium video is cool.
Here's one of Metal Slug X.
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This is just a tester to check it works ok,
Video took using the HTC Desire S, pretty good video recorder actually!
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I have this game but hardly go on it.
It's weird, I played games on all my iPhones but after getting shut of iPhone4 for the play I seem to have stopped playing games
Laird_Attwood said:
I have this game but hardly go on it.
It's weird, I played games on all my iPhones but after getting shut of iPhone4 for the play I seem to have stopped playing games
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I hate to say it but I too preferred gaming on the iphone 4, a much much much better selection of quality games, online networks like plus, openfeint, game center etc, much better looking games, plus you got all the big name developers and indie developers making games for ios too.
Android gaming is absolute rubbish in comparison to ios, hardly any games or developers, even less quality games, the marketplace is terrible, we get poor ports from ios, none of the big names like backing android.
I love the plays gamepad but there isn't actually that many decent games to even play on it, just lucky gameloft released a few good games!
I honestly can't ever see android gaming taking off, android gaming is a total mess, the idevices already won that fight ages ago.
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I hate to say it but I too preferred gaming on the iphone 4, a much much much better selection of quality games, online networks like plus, openfeint, game center etc, much better looking games, plus you got all the big name developers and indie developers making games for ios too.
Android gaming is absolute rubbish in comparison to ios, hardly any games or developers, even less quality games, the marketplace is terrible, we get poor ports from ios, none of the big names like backing android.
I love the plays gamepad but there isn't actually that many decent games to even play on it, just lucky gameloft released a few good games!
I honestly can't ever see android gaming taking off, android gaming is a total mess, the idevices already won that fight ages ago.
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I didn't know people were actually using the Play to, umm, "play" anything else but emulators.
Smartphone gaming is much more casual-oriented and socially-related than console gaming will ever be, and this includes the XPlay. Plus, it seems much easier to justify spending $5 on a smartphone game than on a console game's DLC.
Sony could make a dent if they could leverage on the PlayStation side of things, but then, they shoot themselves on the foot by separating PSN purchases from the "PS Store" ones. Hell, I bought Medievil already in PSN, why should I be paying for it again for the Play? And why the exact same amount, 5 euros? Have you not amortizised the game enough already???
And let's forget about the PSX old games, what about the Minis? Fitting those in the XPlay PSStore would rapidly fill up the XPlay catalogue with more casual-oriented and socially-related games, many of them exclusive to the system... But again, we're busted. We get three stores, one with old, Sony-only PS1 games which people won't pay for if they have done so in the PSN store; one with its own issues as is the Android Market, and that PlayNow abortion which I can't really understand.
As Newtype says, one would do well in buying this device with open eyes, remembering that its only really perfected use isn't provided by Sony itself, which is emulation gaming. We're buying a Pandora with a phone and a hip design.
Could you play in cordy smoothly? I've got xperia play and this game is really laggy at my phone
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Ignore the canadians, there all angry because they think scott is a **** lol
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We are angry because we live here...
*Wishes to move far far away*
Anyways sorry OP, I was just confused...should we post videos of EVERY game, to show they work...like if we start where do we stop?
gunstar3035 said:
We are angry because we live here...
*Wishes to move far far away*
Anyways sorry OP, I was just confused...should we post videos of EVERY game, to show they work...like if we start where do we stop?
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I was joking lol it was a reference to south park lol
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We are angry because we live here...
*Wishes to move far far away*
Anyways sorry OP, I was just confused...should we post videos of EVERY game, to show they work...like if we start where do we stop?
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true that I gotta get far away from here too! Can't stand here lol!
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I hate to say it but I too preferred gaming on the iphone 4, a much much much better selection of quality games, online networks like plus, openfeint, game center etc, much better looking games, plus you got all the big name developers and indie developers making games for ios too.
Android gaming is absolute rubbish in comparison to ios, hardly any games or developers, even less quality games, the marketplace is terrible, we get poor ports from ios, none of the big names like backing android.
I love the plays gamepad but there isn't actually that many decent games to even play on it, just lucky gameloft released a few good games!
I honestly can't ever see android gaming taking off, android gaming is a total mess, the idevices already won that fight ages ago.
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lol
remember sega? how big were they when they came out.. now look at them
so the same could happen to Idevices
so your basicly saying just give up if something is better than u..
dont try and be as good as something else or even better it?
competition is one of the main reasons fones and consoles are as good as they are today
companies trying to create the better device to there rivals
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lol
remember sega? how big were they when they came out.. now look at them
so the same could happen to Idevices
so your basicly saying just give up if something is better than u..
dont try and be as good as something else or even better it?
competition is one of the main reasons fones and consoles are as good as they are today
companies trying to create the better device to there rivals
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Sega was killed by piracy not competition ......
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i didnt say what they was killed by
was just saying how big they were and now there not
same as idevices big now but who know what the future brings
Playstation 1 and 2 were one hell of a lot more pirated than Sega's consoles, or Nintendo's as well. Who pirated Genesis, MegaCD, Sega Saturn, N64 games?
Piracy is a consequence of popularity... It cannot kill companies, no matter how good an excuse it makes. Sega was killed by its own mistakes with the MegaCD/Saturn generation, and they didn't have something like Nintendo's GameBoy cash cow to subsidise that failure. The Dreamcast was a beautiful swan song...
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Does anyone else feel like the xplay sucks for FPS?

I love me some modern combat. But where is was good with the touchscreen on my old phones I feel like I get my ass handed to me constantly. I have had my xplay for 6 months now and play mc most of the time. So far I just feel like I am the fish in the barrel getting shot at. Playing campaign no worries. Online and I just get pissed off. Plus I find it total bs to see people getting g 53 frickin kills in a100 kill game.
Those touchpads are hideous. Sure, they'll work in a pinch, but trying to play against other people using them? No way. Can we convert them into thumbsticks at all? Any sort of accessory?
There are two versions of MC2.one with good controls and one with horrible (shadowgun) controlls. I find playing online enjoyable and I always finish in the top 3...altho that might be my sweet fps skills
Hardly. Developers can suck at using the touchpads properly, but the actual technology is great. Starting off as a total scrub on Modern Combat 3 online, I was pulling off scores and manuevers that I have never been able to do on any other handheld FPS.
EDIT: and yeah, MC2 would give a bad impression if you had any update after 3.3.9 (they started the version count back to 1.0.4+ in all the "broken" new versions).
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The games are great, MC3, Dead Space, etc but yes I find it difficult to play these games using the 'analogue / touchpads / etc' thingys I can only describe as 'male nipples'!
I'm impressed with the games itself, the graphics for a phone is impressive but until we have better nipples to play with I'm gonna stick to emulators or games that don't use them
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maddog00 said:
Those touchpads are hideous. Sure, they'll work in a pinch, but trying to play against other people using them? No way. Can we convert them into thumbsticks at all? Any sort of accessory?
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Sorry I was reffering to Modern Combat 3. I specifically use the older Modern Combat 2 version where the controls were decent, the version prior to GL destroying the controls. But yeah sorry I should have clarified I am strickly meaning MC3. And I wrote this thread after I just got out of a online game where everyone was like 7 or 8 kills and one guy had 53 kills which I think is bumpkiss. Anyone know if Iphone users and android users play online together? Reason I ask is becuase Iphone users are able to hack their games to do all sorts of stuff, run faster faster, shoot fire out of a handgun, all head shots, etc. Also I really wish that GL would allow users to play against other users within the same rank online. Its BS when you see new inexperienced users playing aginst others far more experienced. It makes online play not fun at all, and I have emailed GL asking them to implement a ranking system that lets you play with other users of similar rank. Never got a reply, of course.
Oh and if it seemed like my first post sounded angry I was. I was pissed and frustrated, this is/was a pissed off thread I was venting. Guess I was just mad because people tell me " I wont play a shooting game with you because you have a PSP phone and you will kick my ass", but my ass is the only one that gets kicked online. Again not mad anymore just annoyed. I play online constantly. If anyone wants to play online with me some time my GL username is the same as my XDA username. Hope to see you all on the Digital Battlefield.
The first games on the Xperia play had little to no support for those touch pads, they were rubbish, Although now, a lot of developers are working it out, Take EA, they have great games for the xperia play.
TheCraig said:
The first games on the Xperia play had little to no support for those touch pads, they were rubbish, Although now, a lot of developers are working it out, Take EA, they have great games for the xperia play.
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I agree. EA has done an awesome job with the controls. Much better on their first attempts then GL and they 7 or 8th attempt. Dead Space has excellent use of the controls. And the graphics are sweet. I am really looking forward to The Virtual Tennis by Sega. I still play my Dreamcast to this day and have great times with the Tennis game on it.
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I should have clarified I am strickly meaning MC3. And I wrote this thread after I just got out of a online game where everyone was like 7 or 8 kills and one guy had 53 kills which I think is bumpkiss. Anyone know if Iphone users and android users play online together? Reason I ask is becuase Iphone users are able to hack their games to do all sorts of stuff, run faster faster, shoot fire out of a handgun, all head shots, etc.
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Well with the iPhone players can use the gyroscope for aiming. That would give them a huge edge but I don't think that that's the case because GL would heavily advertise(yeah I'm American, Yank, fat, whatever *yawn*) that it has cross play.
People can hack and cheat on Android as easily as they do on iOS. I saw a guy who could run 10x faster than every else but I didn't report him because he was on my team and we won because of him lol. And besides, GL will most likely not respond to my email or do anything about it...
I've seen guys get 40+ kills with nothing but headshots. While I do accept that there are guys that are that good, I highly doubt that they would spend the amount of time that they do on MC3 instead Call of Duty (unless they'are cheating of course).
I've seen people cheat on other Android games.
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Well with the iPhone players can use the gyroscope for aiming. That would give them a huge edge...
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Have you ever tried using the gyroscopic aiming? It's really not practical at all. Matter of fact, pretty much everyone I've shown it to on my iPod Touch thinks it's a horrible gimmick that they'd never use seriously.
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Have you ever tried using the gyroscopic aiming? It's really not practical at all. Matter of fact, pretty much everyone I've shown it to on my iPod Touch thinks it's a horrible gimmick that they'd never use seriously.
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I have an iPod Touch as well. Once you've master gyroscopic controls on a fps, it'll make you a formidable foe. It's easier to look around and get headshots.
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Dead Space works flawlessly with the Touch Analog pads.
Thing is with some games it doesn't work that well such as Gameloft games.
Well obviously,it doesn't have analog sticks.
Those touch pads are there so you won't cover the screen with your moving thumbs,not just to mimic analog sticks.
Has anyone tried the icontrol pad analog sticks? They have to be better than these "man nips" lol
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Ok guys heres the word on the street.
TLDRTheory loves the touch pads. he thinks the are the best thing since sliced blogna...
The only game I find enjoyable / easy to use is FIFA 12 or other overhead games like age of zombie / fifia 12
The FPS games suck, the only one ever considered decent by gamers was Rainbow 6 and even then it's like way to ****ty. Without auto aim you can barely get a lock on a moving target and I'm not joking.
I guess it's a fair deal tho because everyone has to stop moving to take aim so really everyone is at a disadvantage because of the sloppy game system
My opinion is that the control things are crap. Even if the developer can use them right most of the time it's hard as hell and not even fun anymore.
Whats the point in playing a game if no fun? Yup exactly, NONE!
so yeah I agree with OP. FPS on this game are ****e
even the "good" ones still have problems because of the nature of the beast.
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Ok guys heres the word on the street.
TLDRTheory loves the touch pads. he thinks the are the best thing since sliced blogna...
The only game I find enjoyable / easy to use is FIFA 12 or other overhead games like age of zombie / fifia 12
The FPS games suck, the only one ever considered decent by gamers was Rainbow 6 and even then it's like way to ****ty. Without auto aim you can barely get a lock on a moving target and I'm not joking.
I guess it's a fair deal tho because everyone has to stop moving to take aim so really everyone is at a disadvantage because of the sloppy game system
My opinion is that the control things are crap. Even if the developer can use them right most of the time it's hard as hell and not even fun anymore.
Whats the point in playing a game if no fun? Yup exactly, NONE!
so yeah I agree with OP. FPS on this game are ****e
even the "good" ones still have problems because of the nature of the beast.
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I do love playing FPS shooters on the Xplay im just saying it feels like despite the fact you would think we have an advantage over touchscreen users, it seems like we are the ones at a disadvantage. Maybe if a developer makes a FPS and does an ass kicking job in tweaking the touchpads we might have an edge then... but again if that or when that happens
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Ok guys heres the word on the street.
TLDRTheory loves the touch pads. he thinks the are the best thing since sliced blogna...
The only game I find enjoyable / easy to use is FIFA 12 or other overhead games like age of zombie / fifia 12
The FPS games suck, the only one ever considered decent by gamers was Rainbow 6 and even then it's like way to ****ty. Without auto aim you can barely get a lock on a moving target and I'm not joking.
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*Yawn* ...oh, you again.
First of all, the saying is "Best thing since sliced bread," and I've never said anything about being in love with them. When put in the hands of a competent developer, they serve their purpose. Just because I say they work doesn't mean I prefer them over a more tactile solution.
For what it's worth, I'd actually have rather had twin analogs more akin to what's featured on the iControlPad... but since Xperia PLAY's software support is about 5x more than what iControlPad has, Xperia PLAY it is.
Second, have you played any FPS released in the past decade? Even the most popular, most highly acclaimed series out (Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3) integrates auto-aim, so you've already failed if what you aim to prove is that Xperia PLAY's integrates auto-aim out of poor quality.
Even still, it's not like auto-aim is a necessity to have precise aiming on Xperia PLAY. Dead Space on Xperia PLAY already proved that; without a doubt, there's a such thing as a control scheme competent enough such that you can lock on for headshots without having computer-aided guidance.
Yeah, some games need auto-aim... but that's because their touchpad integration wasn't made as responsive as EA's was in Dead Space. If Gameloft ever stepped up to that level, Modern Combat, Shadow Vanguard, NOVA 2, BiA2 and all the rest could ditch their aim assistance... that's a developer-side issue, not a fault of the hardware.
I guess I'm in the minority but I feel the control pad is an advantage. I generally suck at FPS games but having played MC2 online numerous times, I have had quite a few matches where I held my own. I never really got frustrated about not being able to get kills, and I enjoy them. Either the people I'm playing against suck, or theres something good to these analog touchpads. Just my 2 cents....
I think it's really bad with Modern Combat 3, I hate touch screen controls, but the analog sticks are just way below par. Minecraft on the other hand, feels like a dream!
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I do love playing FPS shooters on the Xplay im just saying it feels like despite the fact you would think we have an advantage over touchscreen users, it seems like we are the ones at a disadvantage. Maybe if a developer makes a FPS and does an ass kicking job in tweaking the touchpads we might have an edge then... but again if that or when that happens
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amen brotha word up
that is the truth speek
I play shadow gun without da analog sticks
it's much easier to get da headshot on da alien muffs without them
using them it's like it never be landing the reticle rite on da head of da bloke
the only games I like using it for are ones where accuracy dont matta like age of zombies or summin

Just how many more Cores??

I simply would like to know just how many more cores do Android phones require to render basic games smoothly without lag?
It seems on paper, these devices will have enough power to virtually take off! yet my HTC One cannot handle a game like Cordy 2 or Granny Smith without stutter and lag.
I would put it down to the immense fragmentation of the android eco system which makes it nearly impossible to optimise for every device that may be running the app in question. I'm sure many developers will optimise for the One eventually...
well i can play cordy 2 and real racing in power save mode (reduced cpu) with no lag or stutter at all....
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I simply would like to know just how many more cores do Android phones require to render basic games smoothly without lag?
It seems on paper, these devices will have enough power to virtually take off! yet my HTC One cannot handle a game like Cordy 2 or Granny Smith without stutter and lag.
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I've played Temple Run 2, Real Racing 3, Need for speed, Asphalt 7 and they're all running fine? Plus I've heard Game-loft are updating their apps so it runs better than good on the new Snapdragon 600 processor
I am sorry, but unless each device is made slightly different, then there is no way those games run 100% lag free...as this is not just an issue with HTC One, Its the same with my friends Xperia Z....simple games are simply not smooth.
It seems the higher the spec on theses phones, the more lag there is on simple games.
You ask a question then disagree with everyone who answered, why ask?
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Haha. You really shouldn't blame Android...too much. Games with ****ty support run ****ty no matter what. Words with Friends is still crap on my iPad. And Zynga decided to break Scramble as well with their new update. Android makes it harder for even well supported games to work flawlessly. All the multitasking and stuff. It's like when your instant messenger freezes a game of Crysis on a $2000 computer? Yeah, that's what you get for picking the platform that can do more stuff at one time and is more "open". Like a swiss army knife to cut your filet mignon instead of a dedicated steak knife. If you don't need the extra functionality of Android, why not switch to the iPhone?
You ask a question then disagree with everyone who answered, why ask?
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I was hoping to a technical explanation to what is clearly a problem with most high end Android devices, and I would hardly classify replies by two individuals as "everyone"...anyway not sure what rattled your cage.
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Haha. You really shouldn't blame Android...too much. Games with ****ty support run ****ty no matter what. Words with Friends is still crap on my iPad. And Zynga decided to break Scramble as well with their new update. Android makes it harder for even well supported games to work flawlessly. All the multitasking and stuff. It's like when your instant messenger freezes a game of Crysis on a $2000 computer? Yeah, that's what you get for picking the platform that can do more stuff at one time and is more "open". Like a swiss army knife to cut your filet mignon instead of a dedicated steak knife. If you don't need the extra functionality of Android, why not switch to the iPhone?
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True, I have an Iphone as my other device, I was just hoping there would be a bit more power to such a top specced Android phone than just for benchmarking and how fast you can open, close and swipe between home screens.
Its not the device but the apps/games. Then again you cannot blame the app devs because android ecosystem is just enormous and you cannot really compare with ios with handful of models and most importantly only one manufacturer.
Don't say your phone can't handle a game because it can, use a heavily developed game that has a lot of attention payed to it. Big difference between a game like that compared to a small under developed game.
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Don't feed the troll...
Seriously? There are two huge threads almost exclusively talking about gaming on this phone right in the one general forum. Do a little footwork.
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Heh, troll thread. Recommend everyone just report this thread to the mods. It's blatantly obvious the OP is trolling, don't feed this little critter.

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