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So today I stopped by phones 4 u on the high street and had a look at the Nexus. I love the design but my God it is big. There's a pic attached to show you the size comparison. The screen is so much better than the XL but its a bit disappointing that it still has a 5MP camera when the XL has an 8MP Camera.
I've fallen for it and will hopefully have mine in my hands tomorrow Will submit a system dump asap. But still gotta figure out how to root it :?
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So today I stopped by phones 4 u on the high street and had a look at the Nexus. I love the design but my God it is big. There's a pic attached to show you the size comparison. The screen is so much better than the XL but its a bit disappointing that it still has a 5MP camera when the XL has an 8MP Camera.
I've fallen for it and will hopefully have mine in my hands tomorrow Will submit a system dump asap. But still gotta figure out how to root it :?
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Which store? I gave up my search in the end accepting that it was only the Oxford St store in London that had stock. Was that not right?
Stuart.upton666 said:
So today I stopped by phones 4 u on the high street and had a look at the Nexus. I love the design but my God it is big. There's a pic attached to show you the size comparison. The screen is so much better than the XL but its a bit disappointing that it still has a 5MP camera when the XL has an 8MP Camera.
I've fallen for it and will hopefully have mine in my hands tomorrow Will submit a system dump asap. But still gotta figure out how to root it :?
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Should've really demonstrated how big it is by holding a N1 next to it
Stuart.upton666 said:
So today I stopped by phones 4 u on the high street and had a look at the Nexus. I love the design but my God it is big. There's a pic attached to show you the size comparison. The screen is so much better than the XL but its a bit disappointing that it still has a 5MP camera when the XL has an 8MP Camera.
I've fallen for it and will hopefully have mine in my hands tomorrow Will submit a system dump asap. But still gotta figure out how to root it :?
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Do you honestly need to take 8mp pictures? You do realize that MP is only the size of the image and has absolutely nothing to do with the actual image quality right?
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Do you honestly need to take 8mp pictures? You do realize that MP is only the size of the image and has absolutely nothing to do with the actual image quality right?
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Exactly....look at a picture taken with a very old Nikkon D40 and compare it with any size MP point and shoot, it's not even close in quality. This is like everyone complaining about the lack of an exynos processor, doesn't seem to have any lag in any video or review I have seen. Specs are fine to use, just need to keep them in perspective and use them appropriately.
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Exactly....look at a picture taken with a very old Nikkon D40 and compare it with any size MP point and shoot, it's not even close in quality. This is like everyone complaining about the lack of an exynos processor, doesn't seem to have any lag in any video or review I have seen. Specs are fine to use, just need to keep them in perspective and use them appropriately.
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Thank God someone else knows what I'm saying. The lack of understanding is just amazing to me. People should really do research before talking. As far as I know about the processor, that the processor its using can typically be way overclocked. Plus now that we have full hardware acceleration, things will run very very well.
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Thank God someone else knows what I'm saying. The lack of understanding is just amazing to me. People should really do research before talking. As far as I know about the processor, that the processor its using can typically be way overclocked. Plus now that we have full hardware acceleration, things will run very very well.
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TI omap 4460 is a 1.5ghz processor that is underclocked for the GN, hence it can be clocked to that for sure and probably up to 1.8 or so. They designed ICS to be optimized for TI Omap processors. Now, I am less impressed with the gpu that comes with it, it is definitely the lowest powered of the top mobile chips. This is a beast of a phone and I hope we see some news on an HSPA version in the US.
Just in case anyone actually wants to see a N1 next to a Galaxy Nexus... here you go
"Galaxy Nexus is HUGE" Thats what Siri said... haha I'm a nerd
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Just in case anyone actually wants to see a N1 next to a Galaxy Nexus... here you go
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Good God it makes the N1 look truly dinky haha.
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braingravyuk said:
Just in case anyone actually wants to see a N1 next to a Galaxy Nexus... here you go
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You can put the whole Nexus One inside the screen section of the Galaxy Nexus.
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wouw mnster phone
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Just in case anyone actually wants to see a N1 next to a Galaxy Nexus... here you go
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Whoa. Congrats! But for myself at least, DO NOT WANT.
Manufacturers, Y U ABANDON 3.7" FORM FACTOR?
sheik124 said:
Whoa. Congrats! But for myself at least, DO NOT WANT.
Manufacturers, Y U ABANDON 3.7" FORM FACTOR?
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+1
Sticking with my N1 until one of us dies!
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Just in case anyone actually wants to see a N1 next to a Galaxy Nexus... here you go
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My god.. Does it even fit in a pocket anymore?
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My god.. Does it even fit in a pocket anymore?
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Lol, now get big pockets pants...
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You could just go to http://www.phone-size.com/?s=1,12,3 and then scroll out one or so clicks and the phone will be "life sized". However for demonstration purposes it still does a fairly good job.
Go big or go home.
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My god.. Does it even fit in a pocket anymore?
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LOL. Yeah, it is big. I just visited that site vonapets url'd and compared all my current phones (N1, SGS, Nexus S, Galaxy S II, Thunderbolt, Droid Charge) to the Galaxy Nexus: http://www.phone-size.com/?s=12,13,65,7,85,3 , and it's not much larger, and actually ~25% thinner, than the largest of my phones (the Charge) which fits easily in my slacks and jeans front pockets. Someone wearing painted on jeans might have issues I guess.
The Charge and SGS II are just a little too large for my hands to use comfortably one-handed. My thumb can't reach the bottom left of the phone without putting it in a precarious balanced position. The big 4.3" screens are great, though. I'm afraid the new Nexus might cross that threshold of being to big to be practical for me, but I'll still probably get one. LOL
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You could just go to http://www.phone-size.com/?s=1,12,3 and then scroll out one or so clicks and the phone will be "life sized". However for demonstration purposes it still does a fairly good job.
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Thanks for the link.
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Exactly....look at a picture taken with a very old Nikkon D40 and compare it with any size MP point and shoot, it's not even close in quality. This is like everyone complaining about the lack of an exynos processor, doesn't seem to have any lag in any video or review I have seen. Specs are fine to use, just need to keep them in perspective and use them appropriately.
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This attitude. Now that everyone has read a few articles on sensor technology it seems EVERYONE feels the need to school people on cameras.
Yes, it's true, MP doesn't have that much to do with it. But the Galaxy Nexus camera is piss poor. It produces results almost identical to the NS camera, which i feel was essentially the same as the N1 before it. Look how far mobile cameras have come in the HTC titan and the iPhone 4S. For a flagship phone in this price range, this is simply unacceptable. For Samsung, even moreso as the shooter in the GS2 is much better. No wonder people make the 5MP 8MP comparison.
People need to stop being apologetic towards companies, and start calling them out on their mistakes. The processor in the Galaxy Nexus is acceptable, but the GPU is really not up to par with today's superphones. The plastic case construction is an improvement over the fisher-price NS, but still cheap garbage compared to the designs of HTC and Apple, yet they charge the same price.
Enough. Stop trying to school people and school the companies instead. It's the only way we'll get better products.
Hi guys and gals,
got my Xperia Z today and am really disappointed with the display viewing angles. Just wanted to share a few shots with you for comparison.
(Don't hate me for the iDevice, it's a business phone, didn't have a choice :angel: )
The bad thing is: you really notice the color distortion at normal use. While looking up front, everything's fine. But tilt in any direction and you immediately see the problem. Didn't expect the 4x display to be so much better, minus the resolution. Maybe I just have caught a "bad" Xperia, but... meh. Guess I will return it and wait for the X-Phone or so.
I read on a german site that users are reporting a great variety in display quality, this is really a bummer on a flagship smartphone.
regards,
pint
Looks good to me.
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Same here
That's not even close to bad. The two others uses IPS displays and the Z does not.
pintness said:
Hi guys and gals,
got my Xperia Z today and am really disappointed with the display viewing angles. Just wanted to share a few shots with you for comparison.
(Don't hate me for the iDevice, it's a business phone, didn't have a choice :angel: )
The bad thing is: you really notice the color distortion at normal use. While looking up front, everything's fine. But tilt in any direction and you immediately see the problem. Didn't expect the 4x display to be so much better, minus the resolution. Maybe I just have caught a "bad" Xperia, but... meh. Guess I will return it and wait for the X-Phone or so.
I read on a german site that users are reporting a great variety in display quality, this is really a bummer on a flagship smartphone.
regards,
pint
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Whats the issue, 99% of the time you will look head one, which your photo proves Sony is as good as the other phones.
Is this a troll thread?
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Looks good to me.
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Same here
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agreed
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Whats the issue, 99% of the time you will look head one, which your photo proves Sony is as good as the other phones.
Is this a troll thread?
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to be fair, not every one has the same expectations and preferences so if you really want good viewing angles this is not the phone for you or if you feel you miss out when other phones have better viewing angles, this is not the phone for you. in the end of the day Sony could have prevented this by using a better panel.
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The screen quality looks amazing! Viewing angels are alot better than expected too.
The Sony Xperia Z looks much sleeker and has a better design compared to the other 2. The Iphone looks tiny.
Wow... Are ppl this mindless? It was proven that the screens are all the same. How can some look bad and some great? Simple. They can't.
What is happening is that some ppl are just shouting about how great the scrrn is, while ignoring a huge flaw.
I don't understand why ppl don't recognize this and speak up? Tell Sony you arent happy so they can change it in the next version.
Why are ppl settling for less?
In before people accuse me of being a troll...
Maedhros said:
Wow... Are ppl this mindless? It was proven that the screens are all the same. How can some look bad and some great? Simple. They can't.
What is happening is that some ppl are just shouting about how great the scrrn is, while ignoring a huge flaw.
I don't understand why ppl don't recognize this and speak up? Tell Sony you arent happy so they can change it in the next version.
Why are ppl settling for less?
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This is sad. Why's it affecting you more than people who will and already have shelled out money for it?
omersak said:
This is sad. Why's it affecting you more than people who will and already have shelled out money for it?
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Because... The better phones Sony Makes, the better for eveeyone. Simple capitalism. I have a vested interest in pointing out flaws in the device, just as I am critical of several things on otther device
Such as DDR2 Ram on the HTC one instead of DDR3. Not to mention low GL bench scores and the the camera not necessarily living up to the hype.
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Because... The better phones Sony Makes, the better for eveeyone. Simple capitalism. I have a vested interest in pointing out flaws in the device, just as I am critical of several things on otther device
Such as DDR2 Ram on the HTC one instead of DDR3. Not to mention low GL bench scores and the the camera not necessarily living up to the hype.
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So, when the S4 is announced with exynos 5, i take it you'll focus 100% to the HTC One forms and repeatedly post about it being outdated and obsolete - right? You know, like exactly you did with the Xperia Z.
Please can you take a photo with a better camera? Thanks
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Whats the issue, 99% of the time you will look head one, which your photo proves Sony is as good as the other phones.
Is this a troll thread?
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Nobody looks on their smartphone in the exact same angle 99% of the time. Do you hold your smartphone straight before your eyes when you look at it? Because that's the only angle the colors are shown correct. The slightest tilt will result in distortion and this ist f*ing annoying.
I have my phone lying on the table while reading news or watching videos, imagine that. Looks ****ty.
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That's not even close to bad. The two others uses IPS displays and the Z does not.
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Why would I care what kind of screen Sony uses on the XPZ, I just want an AWESOME screen. This is cleary not awesome.
Don't forget it's a 600€-phone, you should expect a high-end-display on this one.
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Please can you take a photo with a better camera? Thanks
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The camera's great, I just had not-ideal settings. But given I wanted to show the color distortion, I guess the problem is pretty obvious. What do you want to see?
pintness said:
Hi guys and gals,
got my Xperia Z today and am really disappointed with the display viewing angles. Just wanted to share a few shots with you for comparison.
(Don't hate me for the iDevice, it's a business phone, didn't have a choice :angel: )
The bad thing is: you really notice the color distortion at normal use. While looking up front, everything's fine. But tilt in any direction and you immediately see the problem. Didn't expect the 4x display to be so much better, minus the resolution. Maybe I just have caught a "bad" Xperia, but... meh. Guess I will return it and wait for the X-Phone or so.
I read on a german site that users are reporting a great variety in display quality, this is really a bummer on a flagship smartphone.
regards,
pint
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Yuck that is pretty bad.
I should have mine soon, guess I'll see how I get on before the return period runs out..
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Nobody looks on their smartphone in the exact same angle 99% of the time. Do you hold your smartphone straight before your eyes when you look at it? Because that's the only angle the colors are shown correct. The slightest tilt will result in distortion and this ist f*ing annoying.
I have my phone lying on the table while reading news or watching videos, imagine that. Looks ****ty.
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Not true, sorry.
Here are my shots of Z in the store:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=205054&p=106&g=Go
The fourth photo shows the phone at an angle (even this is unnatural though) and everything looks great.
Mind it's a shop where strong lights reflect on the Z's surface.
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Looks good to me.
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can u post img of ur xZ for viewing andgle?
doministry said:
Not true, sorry.
Here are my shots of Z in the store:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=205054&p=106&g=Go
The fourth photo shows the phone at an angle (even this is unnatural though) and everything looks great.
Mind it's a shop where strong lights reflect on the Z's surface.
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Compare the icon colours of picture 2+3 to the colors on picture 1. Obvious.
Since there are no colours on picture 4, take a look at the software button bar and compare the lightness to that on on picture 1. Pretty much different, I don't think it looks too great.
edit: also compare the software button bar on pic 2+3 to pic 1, it's almost as "nice" as the display on my Archos A70.
Wow XZ screen looks really wonderful at first pic, which the same viewing angle I use 99% of the time
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Japanese vs European screen
Japanese is better (disregarding grey navigation bars on Euro models)
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/08/1...external-lens-camera-outed-shown-with-honami/
Once i saw the news from xperiablog, i nealy jumped up from my seat! Wonderful concept from SONY, but, but... no it does not come with a proper flash .. Lens will be useless if not enough lighting...
Why SONY, always not 100% perfect.. Honami without a xenon flash, Ultra without a flash....
Please share ur comments!!
Great idea. However, all I can see is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
That looks very very expensive......
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finoqq84 said:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/08/1...external-lens-camera-outed-shown-with-honami/
Once i saw the news from xperiablog, i nealy jumped up from my seat! Wonderful concept from SONY, but, but... no it does not come with a proper flash .. Lens will be useless if not enough lighting...
Why SONY, always not 100% perfect.. Honami without a xenon flash, Ultra without a flash....
Please share ur comments!!
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Flash led is the last of problems... Sony is specialized in developing high sensitivity exmor technology for low light performance, and there is not any professional or serious photographer out-there that works with built-in flashes, to get decent results...not even those in pro-sumer cameras.
But if you need a flash led on a phone, to use like a torch.. just buy a 2$ torch!
The main problem, is that when stands for optics and stuff, there is always high price matter.. i would not surprised if that kit would cost as much as an high end phone or even more.
I am not a portrait photographer, but I take landscape and architecture, so, it is never a good idea to use flash on landscape and architecture shots. Therefore, even if there are no flash sticking out of the lens, it would still be nice to be able to carry this thing when I am without my camera.
Don't mind I say this, flash is basically useless if people dont know how it works, lol. Mostly those who like to snap with their flash on from say, audience's seats toward the stage. Or my country's national day celebration recently, many audiences were snapping with flash on from their seats toward the floating platform about 50-100meters away.
It seems is a cool idea but the problem is how much are we going to pay for this "add-on" ??
anything more than SGD$400-500 can get you a good camera so why need the lens only? lolx
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vainqueur said:
I am not a portrait photographer, but I take landscape and architecture, so, it is never a good idea to use flash on landscape and architecture shots. Therefore, even if there are no flash sticking out of the lens, it would still be nice to be able to carry this thing when I am without my camera.
Don't mind I say this, flash is basically useless if people dont know how it works, lol. Mostly those who like to snap with their flash on from say, audience's seats toward the stage. Or my country's national day celebration recently, many audiences were snapping with flash on from their seats toward the floating platform about 50-100meters away.
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lolx, i know what you meant... i am from SG too...
Flashben said:
It seems is a cool idea but the problem is how much are we going to pay for this "add-on" ??
anything more than SGD$400-500 can get you a good camera so why need the lens only? lolx
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lolx, i know what you meant... i am from SG too...
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LOL! Hi-Five:highfive:
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-hot-first-images-of-the-new-dsc-qx10-and-dsc-qx100-lens-cameras/
I think we can skip this if the rumor site is spot-on with the prices. My camera is not exactly huge, EM5, with those prices, I can get a pancake prime lens and still be able to carry it around in my bag. If not, just stick with phone camera lo if I am without my EM5.
I think those getting it will be paying mainly to try out new tech and nothing else.
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LOL! Hi-Five:highfive:
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-hot-first-images-of-the-new-dsc-qx10-and-dsc-qx100-lens-cameras/
I think we can skip this if the rumor site is spot-on with the prices. My camera is not exactly huge, EM5, with those prices, I can get a pancake prime lens and still be able to carry it around in my bag. If not, just stick with phone camera lo if I am without my EM5.
I think those getting it will be paying mainly to try out new tech and nothing else.
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That makes three Singaporeans The concept certainly is interesting, I suppose it's to allow you to bring just the phone and lens, rather than phone and full camera. Remains to be seen what kind of images it can take though
After listening, perheps its the quality of the lens and the censor that plays a huge diff in the NOISE in pictures, not the amount of lighting that is needed using flash. wow, learnt something. yep, again, if its $500-$600SGD for the lens... :crying: so expensive. Yep, it look [email protected]@@
I am not a pro photographer but love taking photos and I am barely using flash on my NEX.
In addition, today we also have many photo editors to post-edit your photos the way you want.
This kit will cost much that true,, willing to get one soon and try it
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latiyf said:
This kit will cost much that true,, willing to get one soon and try it
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I would buy it for 200€ .
Nothing more.
C6603 ?
If this kit is about RX100 or even SLR quality, it would cost between 300 and 400
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nice idea! But the pic release too early before release, other brand will copy it so quick.
pandaball said:
That makes three Singaporeans The concept certainly is interesting, I suppose it's to allow you to bring just the phone and lens, rather than phone and full camera. Remains to be seen what kind of images it can take though
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Hi-Five too:highfive:
I think they have to make it really compact if not, I doubt the response will be good.
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I am not a pro photographer but love taking photos and I am barely using flash on my NEX.
In addition, today we also have many photo editors to post-edit your photos the way you want.
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We have to accept that photo editors will always be part of our workflow whether we like it or not because half the time, you will not be able to ensure every single portion of that photo are exposed correctly to see the details. Flash can only help a small part in some photos, but when it comes to landscape and architecture, flash is basically useless for me.
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I think they have to make it really compact if not, I doubt the response will be good.
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As you can see in the pictures, it is about the width of Z, so it is really small.
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As you can see in the pictures, it is about the width of Z, so it is really small.
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Width is okay but its the thickness which will be a turned off.
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Width is okay but its the thickness which will be a turned off.
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You may have to live with its thickness just like the lens of SLR cameras.
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You may have to live with its thickness just like the lens of SLR cameras.
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That means cannot put in jeans pocket anymore. Anyway, the biggest question is how much? If it is like what the rumor site said, then I think many people will most likely forget it.
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That means cannot put in jeans pocket anymore. Anyway, the biggest question is how much? If it is like what the rumor site said, then I think many people will most likely forget it.
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The whole point of it though is for people who want proper camera quality features and images but don't want to carry round a camera and their phone.
With this you have your phone with you anyway and then just the small camera add-on and be in a bag or another pocket etc.
Phil
Feels retro from Ericsson T68i not really a new idea.
Just got to say this is the best phone I have ever had. I've come from the HTC one and I'm impressed. The only thing I'm disappointed in its the camera.
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Just got to say this is the best phone I have ever had. I've come from the HTC one and I'm impressed. The only thing I'm disappointed in its the camera.
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The only thing you're disappointed in..is the only thing I'm looking forward to.. I'm coming from a nexus 4.
How much did you get d6603 for? and where?
Lan3y said:
Just got to say this is the best phone I have ever had. I've come from the HTC one and I'm impressed. The only thing I'm disappointed in its the camera.
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Exactly my sentiments. Despite the camera, I am still VERY satisfied with this phone. Just pure awesomeness. It is a league classier than the iPhone and the M8. The only direct competitors in the design dept.
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Just got to say this is the best phone I have ever had. I've come from the HTC one and I'm impressed. The only thing I'm disappointed in its the camera.
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Im thinking of getting this phone so can u share what is wrong with the camera?
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Im thinking of getting this phone so can u share what is wrong with the camera?
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I don't mean to speak out of turn but your experience will be relative to what device and camera quality you are accustomed to. If you compare with the likes of the HTC One m7 m8, the OG Moto X or the nexus 4 then you will find the Z3 a big improvement. However, if you are coming from a Galaxy s4/5 or an iPhone 5s/6, then it will be only 'comparable'. Comparable because 1. Sony shines, excuse the pun in the low light area of photography 2. It has better slow motion control in video compared to the others and does give you that 20mp sensor with hardware two stage shutter button 3. I found the digital image stabilization to be better than Apple's OIS (see Btekt youtube vs video). But it is underwhelming when compared to the competition when it comes to zoomed in detail, capture speed and motion blur reduction in still photos. I hope that helps.
I do think this can be addressed with some firmware updates from Sony. They have sent FW updates to the Z2 in the past and made improvements to the camera this way.
For me this is the second best phone I have ever had. Topped by htc one m8. I like the screen more on this one but everything else goes to htc. Even the camera.
Sony should do something with the software.
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I don't mean to speak out of turn but your experience will be relative to what device and camera quality you are accustomed to. If you compare with the likes of the HTC One m7 m8, the OG Moto X or the nexus 4 then you will find the Z3 a big improvement. However, if you are coming from a Galaxy s4/5 or an iPhone 5s/6, then it will be only 'comparable'. Comparable because 1. Sony shines, excuse the pun in the low light area of photography 2. It has better slow motion control in video compared to the others and does give you that 20mp sensor with hardware two stage shutter button 3. I found the digital image stabilization to be better than Apple's OIS (see Btekt youtube vs video). But it is underwhelming when compared to the competition when it comes to zoomed in detail, capture speed and motion blur reduction in still photos. I hope that helps.
I do think this can be addressed with some firmware updates from Sony. They have sent FW updates to the Z2 in the past and made improvements to the camera this way.
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I think that is where we differ on opinions. I came from the m7 and prefer the camera on the m7. The photos just look real compared to the washed out look of the z3.
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I think that is where we differ on opinions. I came from the m7 and prefer the camera on the m7. The photos just look real compared to the washed out look of the z3.
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I respect your view sir. It is strange that almost every independent review has rated the m8 as the worst performing camera. Mainly due to the low amount of detail. If what you say is true, then the Z3 would be a new low. LOL. Peace.
Best multimedia device to me. Not the the best at any one thing, but well rounded and good at everything. Give me a good swiss army knife any day over the sharpest kitchen blade! Thats the z3!
Coolest and geekiest (in a good) way device. N900. That thing was like minipc with ancient specs that they just decided to slap phone app to! Lol. Damn i miss that thing!
Best phone ever purely on phone aspect.... N95-8gig baby what else! Lol!
A lot of biasoty in this post of course! Lol!
CandyAndy said:
For me this is the second best phone I have ever had. Topped by htc one m8. I like the screen more on this one but everything else goes to htc. Even the camera.
Sony should do something with the software.
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If everything is better on the HTC one but the screen you then I guess you will be using the One as your daily driver, right?
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If everything is better on the HTC one but the screen you then I guess you will be using the One as your daily driver, right?
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Well I tested the z3 this weekend and put it for sale this morning. I left m8 at my office on Friday and will make the change back to it tomorrow.
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CandyAndy said:
Well I tested the z3 this weekend and put it for sale this morning. I left m8 at my office on Friday and will make the change back to it tomorrow.
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What made you want to change back?
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Well I tested the z3 this weekend and put it for sale this morning. I left m8 at my office on Friday and will make the change back to it tomorrow.
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Whatever makes you happy and fits your needs! But the M8 will never take pics like these in the link below. Plus if you wanted to crop one to get a close up of one of the animals. The 4 MP in the M8 really falls apart.
I did not take these pictures. They were posted in the Z3 pictures thread.....
https://plus.google.com/photos/104445511388483363462/albums/6066742750944185089
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Well I tested the z3 this weekend and put it for sale this morning. I left m8 at my office on Friday and will make the change back to it tomorrow.
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i came from an M8 to the z3. i think everything about the Z3 (in terms of what it has to offer) is better then the M8 maybe except the design of the phone. am really liking the Sony UI as well as the intense battery saving functions. This is the first phone so far for me that I can leave it unrooted with everything on (location, google services) and not have to worry about the battery dying mid day.
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Whatever makes you happy and fits your needs! But the M8 will never take pics like these in the link below. Plus if you wanted to crop one to get a close up of one of the animals. The 4 MP in the M8 really falls apart.
I did not take these pictures. They were posted in the Z3 pictures thread.....
https://plus.google.com/photos/104445511388483363462/albums/6066742750944185089
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What makes this phone fall apart is the inconsistency of the pictures. Sometimes you get a nice result but more often you end up disappointed. M8 on the other hand while not the best camera is quite consistent, you know what you will get. You won't get zoomamble images but on phone screen gorgeous.
When I used it a lot of people said that wow this phone takes nice pictures.
But yup, still on Sony. It's growing on me.
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What made you want to change back?
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Mostly software. Call me crazy but I like sense.
But also I notice that Sony is not as comfortable to hold. They did round the edges so it's better than z2 but still m8 feels quite nice with the curved back.
But let's see, now when it's time to apart from Sony I am getting hesitant
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Oh and also : Is it just me or is the camera lens location annoying? I get my finger there quite often. I like it more when it's in the middle.
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Oh and also : Is it just me or is the camera lens location annoying? I get my finger there quite often. I like it more when it's in the middle.
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lol I'm completely the opposite. I would always get my finger in the M8 lens. so far I havent gotten my finger in the Z3 lense yet
some people are putting way too much emphasis on the camera. Realize one thing people, you use a phone to take pictures for social media, you are not going to use it for your professional work, so for something like an HTC one M8 it should be more than enough. Also, Megapixel isn't everything, the Iphone 6 takes amazing pictures having only have 8 MP.
I came from the HTC One (M8) to the Z3 about 2 weeks ago.
Overall, I am pleased with the switch for several reasons:
- battery life of the Z3. Even though the M8 has great battery life, nothing on the market comes close to the Z3 right now. Unbelievable battery autonomy.
- bezels. Both devices are the same size, yet the Z3 has a bigger display. The M8's bezels were too big for my taste.
- build quality. My M8 has a loose volume rocker and the camera was scratched beyond recognition. I had to apply toothpaste to get rid of the scratches and it made my camera very sensitive to light and basically ruined the already awful camera.
Things I miss about the M8:
- the metal finish. Boy that was nice to feel! The Z3 has the metal bezels, but the back of the M8 was just lovely.
- the "grip" of the phone. The rounded back of the M8 made it easy to hold and handle. the Z3, while better than Z1/Z2, is still a bit too squarish to my taste.
Both fantastic devices, can't go wrong with either. The Z3 just has that extra 'oomph'.
EDIT: of course, I also miss the development options of the M8. Once you S-OFF the M8 you're basically free to do whatever you want. on the other hand I don't even have root on the Z3 still, unless I want to unlock the bootloader and actually lose some features.
If Sony chose to use capacitave buttons rather than functionally have a 4.7" display for a lot of apps due to the navigation bar, I might agree. That is a LOT bezel that could be used and tear down supports there was space for it.
I curse Android and their space hogging capacitave button loving ways. At least Samsung gets it (FWIW) and LG at least made an effort to mitigate the nav bar with immersive mode on the G2/G3.
JMO
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What makes this phone fall apart is the inconsistency of the pictures. Sometimes you get a nice result but more often you end up disappointed. M8 on the other hand while not the best camera is quite consistent, you know what you will get. You won't get zoomamble images but on phone screen gorgeous.
When I used it a lot of people said that wow this phone takes nice pictures.
But yup, still on Sony. It's growing on me.
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Mostly software. Call me crazy but I like sense.
But also I notice that Sony is not as comfortable to hold. They did round the edges so it's better than z2 but still m8 feels quite nice with the curved back.
But let's see, now when it's time to apart from Sony I am getting hesitant
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Oh and also : Is it just me or is the camera lens location annoying? I get my finger there quite often. I like it more when it's in the middle.
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Ok.....you're crazy! Just messing with you. I liked Sense as welll. I think it is the best skin out there. Very fast and responsive.
So who is not satisfied with their OnePlus 5 and wants to return is using the 15 day no-hassle return system. If you can please state your reason why.
I'm not returning it, because my unit is not defective, and it's a great phone. Sure, it's not perfect, and the camera isn't that it was hyped to be, but it's still an amazingly snappy phone at a not unreasonable cost.
You should have an option for not returning as that's the question you've asked.
for design reasons '? really ? you guys need a kick on your head...
I'm still testing my phone but for now, i'm really not impressed by the camera. After 7 years of using iPhone i finally decided to buy an Android phone. OnePlus 5 is a beast in terms of performance. But even my iPhone 6 can make better photos sometimes and video recording is all blurry and can't focus at all. If I keep OP5, i will keep it just for near stock android experience but i'm not sure yet. Maybe i will wait for Pixel 2 and hope for some reasonable price.
returned, camera *****
other things ok
Really? You guys knew what the phone was like before you bought it.
Hastaloego said:
for design reasons '? really ? you guys need a kick on your head...
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Agreed. I mean you saw what the phone looked like before you ordered it...
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Really? You guys knew what the phone was like before you bought it.
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No i didn't know that the camera can be so bad i. I can't record any video without having focus issues. Even the code was Clearer Photos but it's not the case at all.
im very happy with the phone and camera. However, I came from the Honor 8 to this one, so the upgrade was extreme. And both cameras on this phone seem to be working extremely well after the update released yesterday(or saturday?). with that said video recording might still need some tweaking in 4K mode without using a stabilizer aside from that, i have no good reason to return this phone.
i don't know why people are bashing on the phone for terrible photo's? especially after the update from yesterday the phone makes pretty good images. would love to know a phone which has a better one under 500 euro's
roba93 said:
i don't know why people are bashing on the phone for terrible photo's? especially after the update from yesterday the phone makes pretty good images. would love to know a phone which has a better one under 500 euro's
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Seems people was expecting a true DSLR camera on a 500$ phone. Come on people, think about yourself 10 seconds please.
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Seems people was expecting a true DSLR camera on a 500$ phone. Come on people, think about yourself 10 seconds please.
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true .. funny thing is, the camera will probably get alot better after a couple of software patches.
So if your that irritated by the * bad * camera get yourself an S8 bloatware phone for just 800$
roba93 said:
true .. funny thing is, the camera will probably get alot better after a couple of software patches.
So if your that irritated by the * bad * camera get yourself an S8 bloatware phone for just 800$
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Totally agree !
roba93 said:
true .. funny thing is, the camera will probably get alot better after a couple of software patches.
So if your that irritated by the * bad * camera get yourself an S8 bloatware phone for just 800$
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+1
roba93 said:
true .. funny thing is, the camera will probably get alot better after a couple of software patches.
So if your that irritated by the * bad * camera get yourself an S8 bloatware phone for just 800$
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I think its more that OP made the camera a big selling point. I never really expected it to be as good as the Pixel or S8 but more about a step below. This camera seems to be much much worse than what people were expecting
I hate Samsung and would never buy a galaxy but I have to admit with recent deals, the S8 would be a better phone to buy
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I think its more that OP made the camera a big selling point. I never really expected it to be as good as the Pixel or S8 but more about a step below. This camera seems to be much much worse than what people were expecting
I hate Samsung and would never buy a galaxy but I have to admit with recent deals, the S8 would be a better phone to buy
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Yeah, I agree with you when you say that they made their selling point on the camera. But don't forget the fact that it can change a lot with software update, and maybe we are only at the beginning of a great journey with it. Look, already an update yesterday.
With every iteration of OnePlus, I think it was like this: many updates. to improve software sides of components.
roba93 said:
i don't know why people are bashing on the phone for terrible photo's? especially after the update from yesterday the phone makes pretty good images. would love to know a phone which has a better one under 500 euro's
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s7 edge
submitted an RMA already, Wifi hotspot issue w/ Echo Dot music playback...
paulyz said:
s7 edge
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I had An s7 before the op5 and most definitly its slower/worse battery/camera slow as hell. So sorry but no lol