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ATT or TMOBILE?

Hi guys...
I am stoked for this N4 to come into my hand.
which carrier would be a better choice for me?
I live in NYC. thanks.

T mobile you will get much better speed than att
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What he said^^^^
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T-Mo for speed is probably the best.
However for (possibly) a better look at coverage, may I suggest looking at the Root Metrics Coverage Maps or the Sensorly Coverage Maps. They're based on user submitted tests and data that offer a much better look at where reception is good or bad.

T-Mobile is spending a lot of the money ATT gave them to beef up their network. T-Mobile wants to be a viable competitor again. Their Hspa+ is about 3-4 times faster than ATT. With those things said I chose T-Mobile today. In addition to everything I said they also have truly unlimited 4g and they are cheaper.
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it is based on your location, tbh...
Maybe some NYC XDA people will comment on their experiences with both here...

Depends on location. T-Mobile worked great for me and speeds were incredible for HSPA+. But the problem with me was I had no reception in crucial areas, kinda suck if you can't receive calls text at home or some areas at work.
Att allows you to use their post paid plans without signing a contract. And you can try T-Mobiles $30 100 min, unlimited text and data and only be down 30 of it don't work out

N4 and AT&T Service

What speed are you guys getting? I'd particularly like to hear from anyone in the Phoenix area. I routinely get .5 Mbps down, sometimes up to 4 Mbps, but pretty rarely. This with full bars, a verified 4G provisioned data plan (spoofed with GS3 and even tried Optimus G), and a multitude of APN settings. When I try and bring up questions regarding HSPA+ with customer service their mind explodes, so no help from them.
Any light that could be shed would be fantastic. I'm this close to jumping ship and fleeing to T-Mobile.

I'm no where near you (SE PA region), but I'm consistently getting 8-9mbps down with AT&T and no tweaking whatsoever.

Funny, I'm about to jump from the t mobile boat to att for spotty service where I am missing calls and delay texts. T-Mobile is fast but not worth the extra frustration.
What signal you getting? E, 3g, H?
I bet your getting 3g and need them to change your plan to preferred 4g and not Let plan. Google it and you will get some advice and tips for APN suggestion
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bradm23 said:
Funny, I'm about to jump from the t mobile boat to att for spotty service where I am missing calls and delay texts. T-Mobile is fast but not worth the extra frustration.
What signal you getting? E, 3g, H?
I bet your getting 3g and need them to change your plan to preferred 4g and not Let plan. Google it and you will get some advice and tips for APN suggestion
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No, I'm getting H. And I've clarified with multiple reps that my phone is on a 4G plan with an IMEI provisioned for 4G. As far as the APN, I've tried a couple with not much luck in getting faster speeds.

bradm23 said:
Funny, I'm about to jump from the t mobile boat to att for spotty service where I am missing calls and delay texts. T-Mobile is fast but not worth the extra frustration.
What signal you getting? E, 3g, H?
I bet your getting 3g and need them to change your plan to preferred 4g and not Let plan. Google it and you will get some advice and tips for APN suggestion
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I don't think T-Mobile saves messages long after you keep your phone off for a week you don't get any messages. When I broke my old phone I know I got a few messages, but they didn't pop up when I put my Sim in the nexus 4.
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IRX120 said:
I don't think T-Mobile saves messages long after you keep your phone off for a week you don't get any messages. When I broke my old phone I know I got a few messages, but they didn't pop up when I put my Sim in the nexus 4.
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Weird... I am not sure of this but I have been getting a 30-40 min delay with outgoing and incoming messages which sux

AIO Wireless (AT&T mvno)

http://www.aiowireless.com/home.html
Has anyone tried this yet? I'm definitely gonna be ordering a sim (theryre only $9.99) and giving it a go next month
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Not available in South Dakota.
What are the rates? It's kind of stupid that they won't even let you shop if they don't serve your area.
EDIT: Ok, the coverage map down the page says they cover my city. When I type in my zip in that map, it locates it fine and I have coverage. When I got to shop for plans and type my zip in, it says they don't cover me. Seems like they need to update/sync their database. Although, I'm getting the same message that I got a few weeks ago about being only in 2 cities at the moment, maybe they just need to update their validator on the page?

Oops, I read on a website that it was available nationwide now, I guess not but the rates are $40 for 250 mb of HSDPA, 55 for 2 GB, and 70 for 7 GB, all with a soft cap to edge data afterwards.
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For 70$ on T-Mobile I can get unlimited 4g and everything elce
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lowrider262 said:
Oops, I read on a website that it was available nationwide now, I guess not but the rates are $40 for 250 mb of HSDPA, 55 for 2 GB, and 70 for 7 GB, all with a soft cap to edge data afterwards.
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That's pricier than StraightTalk.

EvoXOhio said:
That's pricier than StraightTalk.
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It is but at least you don't have to worry about random throttling, since the data limits are clearly defined. I used to be in st at&t, their throttling is a joke. Ditched them after a month
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IRX120 said:
For 70$ on T-Mobile I can get unlimited 4g and everything elce
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Of course tmo is a better deal, but in many areas (mine included) at&ts network is waaaay better than tmo.
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lowrider262 said:
Of course tmo is a better deal, but in many areas (mine included) at&ts network is waaaay better than tmo.
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And I can personally vouch for this exact scenario. AT&T covers the entire city of Marshall and all of the outskirts, whereas T-Mobile only covers the "downtown" area. I live JUST outside of downtown and get NO service whatsoever. I told T-Mobile to kiss off and have been using H2O Wireless for maybe a week or so and it's been nothing but pleasurable. The service "just works." I'll definitely be switching to AIO when it's available nationwide because their customer service seems to be state-side, whereas H2O is outsourced and VERY difficult to work with and they have no patience. Definitely crap customer service but hey, you get what you pay for I guess?

esmith972 said:
And I can personally vouch for this exact scenario. AT&T covers the entire city of Marshall and all of the outskirts, whereas T-Mobile only covers the "downtown" area. I live JUST outside of downtown and get NO service whatsoever. I told T-Mobile to kiss off and have been using H2O Wireless for maybe a week or so and it's been nothing but pleasurable. The service "just works." I'll definitely be switching to AIO when it's available nationwide because their customer service seems to be state-side, whereas H2O is outsourced and VERY difficult to work with and they have no patience. Definitely crap customer service but hey, you get what you pay for I guess?
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From what I read aio is actually owned by at&t kinda like how gosmart mobile is owned by tmo. So hopefully it will be decent. Even though max DL speeds are capped a 4 mb/s, that's way more than I need just to surf the web or occasionally watch a YouTube video. Plus I'm getting real sick of tmos crappy building penetration & low-latency data connection.
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All right. Old thread, I know but I didn't know where else to ask this and I figured it'd be better to revive an old thread rather than make my own.
I really want to use Aio this coming month (billing cycle ends in a few days) but I'm having troubles finishing my order. As posted earlier, I live in SD, not one of the "beta cities". I can now get into the site, shop plans and devices and whatever. The only problem I have right now is I can't check out. I'm in my cart and I press the "Continue" button, and nothing happens. I don't get redirected, I don't get a prompt, nothing. I'm just wondering if anyone else is getting that problem, or if maybe it's doing another location check, and I'm failing it (because they are either not nationwide yet or they haven't updated this page to reflect that they are). Or maybe they removed the window popup that says I'm not in those beta cities but forgot to remove the actual check?
In any case, if someone has some spare time, could they go to their site, add something to the cart, and try checking out? Just see if you can get to a screen that prompts for a payment method or something? I get nowhere and I want to try their 7gb plan.
And side-bar: OP, did you actually go with this service? How's the quality? Are you satisfied?

I ordered a sim and the $55 plan last night. I've been using straight talk byod for well over a year and it's just slow and annoying. I'd rather pay a little more and hopefully get better speeds.
Who's used it? Comments?
Thanks
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scottx . said:
I ordered a sim and the $55 plan last night. I've been using straight talk byod for well over a year and it's just slow and annoying. I'd rather pay a little more and hopefully get better speeds.
Who's used it? Comments?
Thanks
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I'm in Cape Canaveral Florida, and I switched to AIO for one month and the data speeds were under 1Mbps!!! I called their tech support and they said there was an outage in the area and it would be fixed in a few days, data speeds got up to just over 1Mbps and stayed there for the remainder of my month. I even had my IMEI changed to a 4G phone to see if that was the issue, tried several APN settings, with no luck. I went back to T-mobile. AIO had better coverage but the data was just too slow.

tigertechmi said:
I'm in Cape Canaveral Florida, and I switched to AIO for one month and the data speeds were under 1Mbps!!! I called their tech support and they said there was an outage in the area and it would be fixed in a few days, data speeds got up to just over 1Mbps and stayed there for the remainder of my month. I even had my IMEI changed to a 4G phone to see if that was the issue, tried several APN settings, with no luck. I went back to T-mobile. AIO had better coverage but the data was just too slow.
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T-Mobile here has crap service where I am. Att and all the mvno's they have are the best around here. I don't need super fast speeds, just stability. It will be here Monday says UPS so we'll see.
They shipped my stuff ups 2nd day air for free.
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Nexus 7 LTE Performance

Has anyone measured mobile broadband performance their system between T-Mobile and AT&T? I know it is very much location dependent, but I get about 1/3 of the bandwidth on T-Mobile that I get on AT&T in the same area.

TDBearCT said:
Has anyone measured mobile broadband performance their system between T-Mobile and AT&T? I know it is very much location dependent, but I get about 1/3 of the bandwidth on T-Mobile that I get on AT&T in the same area.
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Bandwidth or data speed?

all i can tell you is it is very fast on verizon, seems to be even faster than my cell phone but then again its a faster, newer machine.

My N7 is on TMO and my S4 is on ATT. Get about the same LTE speeds on both.
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Thanks, everyone.
My testing was against the T-Mobile SIM shipped with the product (which is provisioned for prepaid service), and my AT&T SIM from my cell phone. I have LTE service in my location on both networks, and I'm extremely close to both networks antenna arrays (T-Mobile's is actually two floors above my office).
I am getting 5M up / down with T-Mobile, and between 11M and 32M up / down on AT&T. T-Mobile speeds are more like HSPA+ speeds, even though my N7 shows "LTE" in the status bar.
Jim

I'm sitting in the Chicago airport right now and my Galaxy S4 has LTE but my new Nexus 7 lte is only showing "H." After doing some reading it seems like H is slower than H+. Does anyone know why this is happening? I am on AT&T on both devices. I also attached a screen of the speed test.
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fosser2 said:
I'm sitting in the Chicago airport right now and my Galaxy S4 has LTE but my new Nexus 7 lte is only showing "H." After doing some reading it seems like H is slower than H+. Does anyone know why this is happening? I am on AT&T on both devices. I also attached a screen of the speed test.
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Are you using the same SIM in both devices? I have read that AT&T provisions prepaid accounts differently from post-paid accounts. Also, you may want to check your Access Point settings-- you should be using one labeled 'AT&T LTE' or with an APN of 'pta'.

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Are you using the same SIM in both devices? I have read that AT&T provisions prepaid accounts differently from post-paid accounts. Also, you may want to check your Access Point settings-- you should be using one labeled 'AT&T LTE' or with an APN of 'pta'.
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The were different sim cards. I ended up calling AT&T and they took my imei number and switched it out in their database replacing the older device the sim card had previously been used in (Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 LTE). Upon rebooting my device you can now see LTE is working.

Can't complain with T-Mobile Germany.
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These are my speeds normally on ATT

[Q] note 3 straight talk speed issues

Hey all, I have the Verizon Note 3 now on the straight talk network. I used their multi sim card kit. After speaking to the 30+th straight talk representative I got it online. With what I believe are all the proper settings. The Note worked fine for the first week or two, but now my speeds are less than a Megabit. I am having a hard time even streaming from my Google Music. It switches from H to H+ all the time, I don't know much about the hspa technology other than the small bit I've read online, but I thought it was supposed to be more advanced/better than 4g. Is it just less supported? Any advice would be greatly appreciated, let me know what info is needed.
Also I'm curious how system updates should work, or if there are any radio updates. Please share any knowledge with this note noob.

I used to be on straight talk and I can tell you, even though they advertise unlimited data, it's really not. After you reach a two gig threshold they throttle you down. That may be what's happened to you. Although they usually send a text or email first.

They've changed it to 3GB.After 3GB, your speed is throttled but its still unlimited.. text 611611 and type USAGE it tells you how much data you've used. .
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Are u using the AT&T Sim or tmobile?
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AT&T. .better coverage than t-mobile
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I believe I have to be using the tmobile because I'm on hspda? Isn't that supposed to me the more advanced tech? I can't deal with these speeds now though, I don't have wifi in or around my house. If I am to switch to the at&t sim, what settings do I need to change?