[Q] CM 10.1 vs stock: battery life, performance, etc.. - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Running stock rooted. For all my other phones I've ended up on CM, and I think the N4 will end up the same.
How's battery life with the CM10.1 Nightly kernel? (Would probably flash to Franco anyways, but just curious).
Performance (smoothness, etc)?
Little additions you love on CM not in stock (Quick toggle the widgets, etc)?
Let me know anything else!

ace7196 said:
Running stock rooted. For all my other phones I've ended up on CM, and I think the N4 will end up the same.
How's battery life with the CM10.1 Nightly kernel? (Would probably flash to Franco anyways, but just curious).
Performance (smoothness, etc)?
Little additions you love on CM not in stock (Quick toggle the widgets, etc)?
Let me know anything else!
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I've been an avid user of faux123's kernel. I mostly used the enhanced stock. The kernel is smooth as heck, but from day to day use I do not see a whole lot of difference between that and cm10.1 nightly kernel as far as battery life is concerned. The reason I recently quit using faux123 enhanced stock was because it recently starting making my hands free calling in my explorer do some weird stuff. Once I reflashed the rom (simply to just put the cm10.1 kernel back on) the problems went away.

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[Q] getting the NC in 24 hours... what rom to use?

tommorow morning i'll get my NOOK COLOR refub about 3 weeks since i ordered it...
the main issue right now is what Rom to use
stock CM7? CM based rom? HC?
would apriciate any advice
iakovl said:
tommorow morning i'll get my NOOK COLOR refub about 3 weeks since i ordered it...
the main issue right now is what Rom to use
stock CM7? CM based rom? HC?
would apriciate any advice
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1. There is no stock CM7.
2. CM based ROMs are good. CM7 is strongly recommended. Others reported loving MIUI which I've never tried.
3. Forget about HC.
OK so no HC
CM7 options:
1-MiRaGe
2-Phiremod 7.1
3-CyanogenMod 7
also
as far as i could tell the normal OC it to 1.1~1.3Ghz any special things i need to know?
Use plain old CM7 it is by far the best and you don't have to wait for the themer to update his/her rom.
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My suggestions:
If you want an e-reader focused experience and plan to buy subscriptions and content from B&N, root their 1.4.1 ROM. You get a nice reader with the ability to jump over the Walled Garden walls.
If you want an Android tablet that can be used for reading books, go with Cyanogenmod 7.1. I run the nightlies myself, and have few issues.
Just be aware that the Android Nook app is nowhere near the same thing as the B&N reader. If you want that "B&N Experience", the B&N ROM is the way to go. If you don't care about B&N stuff, there's no advantage to their ROM, other than maybe the free-form launcher.
I just wish the Android launchers weren't all so grid focused. They make my tablet look like an oversized phone.
Ignore this post.
so... CM7 nightly build, use stock kernel? or is there something better?
Just use the stock kernel. I boot CM7 stable (7.1.0 currently) from SDcard using Verygreen's 1.3. I can't recall the last time I ran the stock firmware. Only reason I can see to use stock is if you subscribe to any magazines, or use their children's books. That is the beauty of running off SCcard, you can always switch back to the stock if you want to.
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iakovl said:
so... CM7 nightly build, use stock kernel? or is there something better?
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Dals overclock kernel is already included in the 7.1 stable. So there isn't any other kernels you can use anyway.
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I'd put in a vote for MiRaGe.
Nightlies haven't been nightlies for a while due to build problems and CM9 preparations. This means that latest nightly doesn't benefit from latest fixes including those for SOD which also can affect the stable build.
MiRaGe has those fixes in plus a modular kernel which frees up more memory does seem to speed things up. It is a bit smaller as it has some stuff stripped out.
I'm happy with that build. It seems very stable and fast. I'll probably stay with these till CM9 matures a bit more.
moving to mirage from cm7
did anyone use V6 SuperCharger 9 rc4 with it?
Definitely MiRaGe.
No question about it.
I did CM7 for a couple of weeks and then MiRaGe for the past couple of weeks. No comparison. MiRaGe is much faster, much more stable, better battery life. Without a doubt, it's the winner of the two.
Haven't tried Phiremod. I have no reason to try something else.
bobtidey said:
I'd put in a vote for MiRaGe.
Nightlies haven't been nightlies for a while due to build problems and CM9 preparations. This means that latest nightly doesn't benefit from latest fixes including those for SOD which also can affect the stable build.
MiRaGe has those fixes in plus a modular kernel which frees up more memory does seem to speed things up. It is a bit smaller as it has some stuff stripped out.
I'm happy with that build. It seems very stable and fast. I'll probably stay with these till CM9 matures a bit more.
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+1 MiRaGe. If you'd drop by MiRaGe Thread's OP and review the changelog, you'll see there have been lots of improvements to the build including a modular kernel that is based off dalingrin's which is the base for overclocking and has the SOD patch as well. Aside from this, the signal icon/wifi bug on the latest nightly (253) is fixed as well. There's also an optional script called v6 supercharger that adds up to the total speed and ultimately reduces lags on your NC. Performance has been superb and I've been using it for almost a month. mrg666 also syncs to CM Repo if he finds anything new to add he updates it (like nightlies) and it's definitely worth it.
Tapatalkin' it from my rooted NookColor running CM7 MiRaGe [KANG] [7.2 RC] overclocked @ 1.2 GHz
Yup. Right now Mirage is the way to go. Combine it with the V6 Supercharger and you get a steady nice and mostly lagfree experience with quite everything you throw at it.
what settings to use with V6 RC9?

ics rom issues

so ive been runnning ics roms for awhile now (since one of the first functioning cm9 builds were out), and im not new to flashing. but im a little unsure what i should be running that will fit my needs the best. im running slimics 3.7 right now with its stock kernel, and its great, if you get rid of their 'stock launcher' and change the screen settings, i just feel like i could be getting more. ive heard wonderful things about dark knights rom, but havent had a good experience and i dont know if its due to me flashing improperly. i started out on icssgs and it did me well....i just find slim a but of a step above (my opinion of course). but i find slim releases their updates before many apps become available to it. im just a regular user, i use facebook and web alot, and of course text, and camera, i also desire as much battery life as possible (of course) while running the best performance with what i need. Are there any suggestions for me out there for a rom/kernel combination?
Hi,
Did you already try MNICS kernel with SlimICS ?
I've got the best user experience with this combo.
powerdams said:
Hi,
Did you already try MNICS kernel with SlimICS ?
I've got the best user experience with this combo.
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+1.....mnics is a great basic kernel designed for everyday use, with a specially tweaked conservative governor for smooth ui experience, and good battery too
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What's you're favorite kernel?

I just got a nexus 7 2 days ago and I'm going to root it this evening when I get home from work.
I want to have you guys opinion on which is the best/favorite kernel amongst you guys.
Personally Id like a kernel that's as smooth/fast as possible with decent OC capabilities. Battery lifes not an issue to me as I don't mind charging my tab everynight.
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Hi, I use Clemsyn's Elite Kernel, it fast and offers great battery life, you can also OC to about 1.7ghz but I stay at 1.4 as I find that fine
Just wondering if anyone else has tried glados kernel, it was running nice with great battery/performance but started causing reboots so I'm back to trinity. Will be keeping my eyes on glados though!
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I use the 520 mhz GPU version of Motley 1.1.1. I find it very fast and mostly smooth. There are a few problems with UI lag I have seen that seems to be related to this kernel but I can live with that because of the IO and general performance benefits. (Plus it will probably be fixed in an upcoming update anyway!)
smt8544 said:
I use the 520 mhz GPU version of Motley 1.1.1. I find it very fast and mostly smooth. There are a few problems with UI lag I have seen that seems to be related to this kernel but I can live with that because of the IO and general performance benefits. (Plus it will probably be fixed in an upcoming update anyway!)
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Hey mate Nice phone you have there
I like Faux's kernels, I have always admired his work, the N7 is the first device with his kernel and I am using it right now
The newest kernel, from a few hours ago is slightly underclocked, performance is still top notch in day to day use, it has the tegra gaming fix, so many features and battery on previous version was great. I am looking forward to seeing what battery on this new one is like
I found Glados kernel to have issues randomly freezing where I had to press all 3 buttons to reboot it, and Morfic's kernel lagged a bit on the apex laucnher homescreen I have
No offence to those kernels/developers, but faux's kernel is my favourite now
But it is still early days in the life of this device
I tested all these with AOKP nighty builds
markj338 said:
Hey mate Nice phone you have there
I like Faux's kernels, I have always admired his work, the N7 is the first device with his kernel and I am using it right now
The newest kernel, from a few hours ago is slightly underclocked, performance is still top notch in day to day use, it has the tegra gaming fix, so many features and battery on previous version was great. I am looking forward to seeing what battery on this new one is like
I found Glados kernel to have issues randomly freezing where I had to press all 3 buttons to reboot it, and Morfic's kernel lagged a bit on the apex laucnher homescreen I have
No offence to those kernels/developers, but faux's kernel is my favourite now
But it is still early days in the life of this device
I tested all these with AOKP nighty builds
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Very nice phone
I will probably try Faux's kernel out sometime but i'm really holding out until an update rolls out for motley.
OFFTOPIC - Have you tried the nik's JB builds for IncS? And if so, how have they been? (thinking of flashing CNA but not sure if I should wait for the new kernel to function with AOSP.)
smt8544 said:
Very nice phone
I will probably try Faux's kernel out sometime but i'm really holding out until an update rolls out for motley.
OFFTOPIC - Have you tried the nik's JB builds for IncS? And if so, how have they been? (thinking of flashing CNA but not sure if I should wait for the new kernel to function with AOSP.)
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Try faux's kernel, as I said its my favourite
Yeah I have, but they are not as butter smooth as they are on the N7 or even the Nexus S. I think it has to do with the hacked kernel and drivers. I am waiting for a proper kernel that can properly handle project butter.

[Q] What ROM are you using and why, and how often do you change?

I'm a new Android user and loving all of the options out there in terms of Kernels, ROMS, etc, but I find myself being overwhelmed with all of the options out there. So far I'm pretty set with running franco Kernel (running r20 right now), but I find myself always wanting to try out new ROMs, and I'm hoping that doing all of this switching around isn't going to mess up my device but I just can't nail myself down to a ROM that I'm set with.
I had been running CM 10.1 nightlies, but just recently a couple of days ago I jumped over to MiNCO because of the support for franco Kernel.
Now I find myself looking at the Xylon ROM but am worried that jumping around from ROM to ROM is going to mess with my device.
What ROMs are you guys using, and why are you using them? I find myself that the most important factors for me are battery life/performance, quick toggles, and the power menu.
I havean EVO 4G LTE .. ever since i got the o.g. EVO I was hooked on them. But I use a stock with goodies Rom by flex. Its a great rom has everything I need and its super smooth
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I generally stick to CyanogenMod. I keep an eye on the changelog and flash new nightlies when things I want are merged.
I've messed with AOKP and MIUI in the past but they're not really for me.
Cyanogenmod 10.1 Jellybro because it has everything I need and is clean code (no dirty hacks). Used to be a fan of aokp but too many dirty code and unicorns for me.
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zephiK said:
clean code (no dirty hacks).
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cm is my favourite rom, but thats not really the truth what you say. in order to stuff in tons of devices that normally do not run aosp they have to stretch the base wide open with hacks. this is the hackiest rom in the android scene and it must be, otherwise people out there wouldnt know what android is. thats why cm traditionally never had so much traction on this plattform than on others, simply because uncompromised aosp is leaner and more optimized for android itself and the nexus plattform. on a legacy device i'd always suggest cm, thats obvious. on nexus cm may not be the obvious best choice anymore, because the others are likely faster, more stable, have less daily fallouts, and in some cases have more features, like aokp, if youre the kind of guy that likes that sort of thing. if i flash cm here, its because i like their creative/inventive spirit and would like to support the project overall. flashing is easy though, trying out a couple of em isn't that much of a problem. (-:
Paranoid android. Not even considered any other ROM since I flashed this one. Its just so amazing. I couldn't live without all the colours that change per app, and all the other features it has.
I suggest trying it out now.
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With my previous device, s2, I changed a lot, from RR to AOKP to CM etc etc, I like them all.
On my N4, I'm using stock until a really good-good ROM comes out, I don't have any problems, other than battery, so I don't panic, YET.
calanizzle said:
With my previous device, s2, I changed a lot, from RR to AOKP to CM etc etc, I like them all.
On my N4, I'm using stock until a really good-good ROM comes out, I don't have any problems, other than battery, so I don't panic, YET.
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Yeah other than battery issues everything else is a "nice to have" and nothing I "absolutely need"
I've been on xylon w matrix kernel
For battery customization and speed.
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For me its PA rom....Ive tried every rom because I love flashing lol....but this is an honest opinion from experience....I know best rom talk is not allowed but the best to me is PA rom because of one simple reason....other than stock...its perfect!!!! And with that being said I have No issues with it very stable..super fast...alot of features man I can go on and on....if you want your N4 running perfect go PA...there are some other good roms because we have alot of elite devs in here and im sure more are on the way...but to me theres nothing better than super wiping your phone just to make sure its really clean and flashing PA...all you can say is wow after that lol......and now I change roms everytime Moles and his crew update PA....and also flash Franco kernel with this and your N4 will be excellent....
I'm currently on liquidsmooth. I've tried rasbeanjelly, Xylon, codefirex, CM 10.1, MinCo and a few others I can't remember. All were great. I'm really like liquidsmooth. It's a great balance. I flash, sometimes 3 times a day.
Setup: Code FireX w/ Faux beta
CFX is the first non-stock ROM that I decided to try because it uses the Linaro chain and I was pretty curious about the speed.
Long story short, CFX's performance is apparent as soon as you start using the device, it had much needed improvements.
Oh, and did I mention the CFX settings? Synegye's special built in mods allow you to improve your experience even more. For instance I decided to use the 6 signal Wi-Fi/Network, center clock, smaller Nav Bar, as well as dual view. This package, when combined with Faux's kernel presents you with an unbeatable experience on the best Android experience to date.​
Ace42 said:
Setup: Code FireX w/ Faux beta
CFX is the first non-stock ROM that I decided to try because it uses the Linaro chain and I was pretty curious about the speed.
Long story short, CFX's performance is apparent as soon as you start using the device, it had much needed improvements.
Oh, and did I mention the CFX settings? Synegye's special built in mods allow you to improve your experience even more. For instance I decided to use the 6 signal Wi-Fi/Network, center clock, smaller Nav Bar, as well as dual view. This package, when combined with Faux's kernel presents you with an unbeatable experience on the best Android experience to date.​
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That sounds pretty intriguing, I think I just found the next ROM that is going to get flashed on my N4.
Nice discussion. Very interesting.
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For reliability and just the right amount of mods for me it's been CM on any device I've owned 90% of the time. It's the least buggy for me, although of course, there will be the occasional bug along the way. Works beautifully on the the Nexus, although some mods may take longer to merge as other devices have to be taken into account.
Can't think of any "hacks" needed for CM to run on any Nexus, although much hackage needed for it to run on Samsung branded phones, and any other manufacturer that doesn't ship with AOSP and may be slow to release source. The kernel for the GN was less than impressive, but the N4 kernel is great.
Running stock rooted. Going CM 10.1 as soon as I get back home from vacation.
Skickat från min Galaxy Nexus
Stock with Franco kernel and you got the most stable combo ever seriously though. Feels very snappy while battery is great but also is really stable.
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I am flashing between a number of Roms daily. Change between cm 10.1, aokp, paranoid, slimbean, codefire. Currently on paranoid b9. I love the options we have on the nexus. It would be a lot less hassle for me if I don't have to restore my texts everytime. Still I pretty much flash a different ROM daily
kyokeun1234 said:
Stock with Franco kernel and you got the most stable combo ever seriously though. Feels very snappy while battery is great but also is really stable.
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+1 for stock with Franco.
No stable (official stable) roms out there yet that I like, and since n4 is my primary phone, I need my stability :/.
Probably will switch over to AOKP milestone or CM stable.
On past devices I've run with CyanogenMod (any variation), but on the Nexus line I tend to prefer staying with a stock ROM and a custom kernel (though I'm stock presently) for the sake of cleanliness. CyanogenMod is great, it's built by trusted developers, and all around well known for their great reputation. On the flip side, I tend to stay stock because I need to help other people out often enough that I start to forget which features were added by the CM team and which come with Android itself.

kernels

new here,
dont want to ask the noob question of which kernel is the best...but can I get some opinions on what kernel you guys use and why?
I basically want to be able to undervolt a bit across the board, and have an improvment in battery life without losing the snappiness of the phone.
nothing major....I noticed the Franco Kernel is very popular, but there isnt any details on the op about it per the creators style.
Also, I read if you come off of Francos, you need to flash the reset kernel...where is that?
thanks
all help is appreciated
Franco is great. Doesn't UV, though.
Honestly, check out Harsh kernel. It's already UV'ed and allows for more. Also, it is QUICK. Battery life is great.
Personally, I use Matr1x kernel. I wondered the same question as OP and I jumped around a few kernels. I used Franco, Bricked, and now Matr1x (might have tried out IntersectRaven's, but I forget). Allows for undervolt and has a few governors as well as I/O schedulers. I like to settle for one thing so right now I'm content. I can't judge battery life, because I don't completely rely on kernels to do it for me, rather I manage my apps and screen, auto sync, etc. myself.
I believe the reset kernel is the stock kernel, which you need to flash before any custom kernel, but... not quite sure
There are some great kernel devs here, as you would assume (random order): Franco, Morfic, Mathk1d, Harsh, etc etc. All with individual qualities, I however find common details in most of them; great improvements in battery life & performance being the biggest compared to stock.
Try them all, they're free & it's easy enough.
(Personally, I have two backups in twrp that I always revert to: rasbean + trinity & minco + franco. Seen you asked..) :thumbup:
Reset kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024982
I've been using motley since day one that I've had my N4. Jumped to franco to check it out but always ended back with motley. Most of his builds are tested before release and he will tell you if they're for testing (alphas), tested a little bit (betas) or stable. There was a few weeks where I didn't even update my kernel because it was perfect (at least for me) and just updated to get the later features. There are a lot out there and its just a matter of testing and seeing which kernel/features fits our needs. :good:
On my sig we have a chart going on with different versions that have been tested with voltages and binning.
MiNCO has been great for me
AW: kernels
Trinity kernel (latest, ondemand) and rbj. Nice combination. Realy fast, without the need of extra tweeks. UV by default. Smooth.
Used Matrix 5.5 bevor, also snappy, but drained my battery faster.
Francos kernel with minco rom worked great on battery life, but was not that smooth. But haven't tried the latest francokernel.
Everything just personal, and battery life depends much on the way you use your n4.
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For me, Faux's kernel is hard to beat
Very good battery life, potential to UV, extremely stable, super smooth, release schedule is relentless and faux is quick to help out troubleshooting.
But above all else, the one feature that stands out above all else is full colour control with gamma adjustment! This alone makes it worth it, completely unleashes this device's screen!
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Trinity has excellent performance and solid battery. Highly recommended.
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This is completely subjective, different kernels work best for different people. Try a few out and see which you prefer

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