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JasJar won't charge any more...any ideas?

I just posted on the accessories forum about my experience with the Brodit active holder that I purchased. Mounted it in my car, and plugged the brodit charger in. Fuse in car charger went bang (not literally). Now I know it's not my power adapter in the car, as I've been using another JasJar charger and GPS charger for ages, so I went to Halfords and bought some replacement fuses. Tried them in the charger. Every one died too instantly.
I assumed the charger must be faulty, and arranged to send the holder back to Clove to replace it. It wasn't until I plugged my JasJar into the normal charger last night that I discovered it was no longer charging at all. I tried unplugging and replugging. I tried using the USB cable in my pc. Nothing works. Even the other car charger won't charge it any more.
I'm guessing I now have to send my JasJar to HTC for repairs and be without it for a couple of weeks. I'm not too happy about it though, and thought I would ask here first if this has happened to anyone else and if there might be a way to get it charging again without having to send it away.

i had a similar problem, i went to france with a charger that had a changable head, with pins for the different countries on click in plates, and on the top was a usb socket.
i took a standard usb to mini usb cable with me figuring this is a usb charger like the one that came with my phone but no, i couldnt get it charging, then after 12 hrs of it refusing, it eventually kicked back in, i sussed you had to use it like plugging it into a pc, ie, it turn it off, wait, then plug it in. bingo it started charging again.
its working like activesync, right pain, shoulda just taken me charger and a mains convrter
sorry it doesent really help but its poss related

Carnivor said:
i had a similar problem, i went to france with a charger that had a changable head, with pins for the different countries on click in plates, and on the top was a usb socket.
i took a standard usb to mini usb cable with me figuring this is a usb charger like the one that came with my phone but no, i couldnt get it charging, then after 12 hrs of it refusing, it eventually kicked back in, i sussed you had to use it like plugging it into a pc, ie, it turn it off, wait, then plug it in. bingo it started charging again.
its working like activesync, right pain, shoulda just taken me charger and a mains convrter
sorry it doesent really help but its poss related
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similar problem. but i change the port miniusb. 30 dolares in mexico.
no problem, is easy. and now is working ok.

Well I've sent it in for repairs now. Couldn't get the thing to charge.

this forum is amazing...if there is an information available, you can bet it you can find it here...:
thanks carnivor: I had the same problem, but just was not smart enough to get the idea to shut it off and then on...with your help i solved the problem...i still don't get it, why it did charge with the original charger or with the usb cable from the pc and not with the generic usb charger and that same cable....and actually: it depended on the ROM installed: with the qtek rom it did not matter, with the t-mobile it did..
anyway: now it works. thanks!

I notice that the power lead is thinner than a usb lead so there may be less wires inside, ie 2 + ground instead of 4 + ground, the lack of TX and RX connections may well be what causes it. Im not going to hack into the charger cable just yet to find that out.
Intresting about the rom versions changing the fact if you can have device on before sync or not. Im not going to reflash now with an update around the corner im just going to wait for that.

notice that the power lead is thinner than a usb lead so there may be less wires inside, ie 2 + ground instead of 4 + ground, the lack of TX and RX connections may well be what causes it.
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yes, but interestingly it also doesn't work with the same cable that syncs and charges from the pc, when this cable is connected to the lighter or the generic USB charger...so the mess starts already in the charger.
but bottomline: as long as there's a workaround...

Wizard looks like is recharging, but in real it doesn't!

Hi guys,
my beloved qtek 9100 is having some weird behavior since last week: i let my battery drain to 9% and then recharged. The phone would not recharge it, showing a red led. After lurking and learning about this problem on those devices I made a "starter" with three 1.5v batteries and gave the battery the necessary tension to start recharge cycle.
I thought that would be the solution but no: the phone kept stopping recharging at 25% or, the next time, at 75% with no apparent reason. Then, i tried many solutions like directly charging the battery with a cut usb cable, with the stock charger, with powered on phone, powered off phone, etc. No clue.
What leaves me shocked is that the battery, even when at 75%, drops suddenly to 0% after enabling the radio module thus killing the device...
An important note: same behavior with two different batteries...
I'm going nuts...

Problem still unsolved. Today i left the device recharge at 100% (took about 3 hours), detached it and tried a rom downgrade. Obviously it died at 50% of rom upgrade procedure. Sweet...now it's almost bricked, bootloader screen and recovery procedure to be done
What could it be, an hardware failure?

Hi there, same problem here: I have the phone with two batteries, on half a year old, one brand new. The batteries DO charge on another phone, but after a regular charge is gone, my phone never gecharges the batteries. It might be the charger circuit? If not HW, is there any chnce to do some SW stuff?
Unfortunately this thing s just a brock now ...
Bye
mr.groovie

mr.groovie said:
Hi there, same problem here:[CUT]
mr.groovie
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It's good to find someone with my very same problem...although i've got no solution, still!
Is there someone out there who knows how much would cost a fix and if it's an hw issue or not? Would it be possible to fix it via DIY?
Thanks in advance

Someone suggested me to test the current output on the main contacts to see if the device is actually supplying power to the battery.
So i plugged the wall-charger on the device, took a multimeter, checked the output: the device is supplying 3.5-3-7 volts. So, i suppose it is correctly charging. Why, then, after a turn-off / turn-on the charge level drops after showing as completed?
Could it be a sw problem, then?

USB voltage is 5v. If you are not getting 5v on the USB plug coming from that charger, then that is probably your problem. Have you tried using a USB cable to plug it into your PC to charge?

d0ug said:
USB voltage is 5v. If you are not getting 5v on the USB plug coming from that charger, then that is probably your problem. Have you tried using a USB cable to plug it into your PC to charge?
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Thanks for the hint
I suppose the problem is another...in fact those 4 volts are coming from the battery itself. Pluggin in or out the power plug doesn't make any difference.
I tried taking out the battery and there's no power coming through the main contacts of the phone. Is this the right way to check or should i use some different method?
Thanks again

Last question: is there someone who could show me where the recharge circuit should be on the mainboard? Have you got any information about the ease of a diy repair and about the price / availability of the spare part?
Thanks in advance

spidernik84 said:
Last question: is there someone who could show me where the recharge circuit should be on the mainboard? Have you got any information about the ease of a diy repair and about the price / availability of the spare part?
Thanks in advance
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Are you using the wall charger or with the PC. Cus you will get more power input from the Wall. As so i dont know the reg key off hand but if you change one thing you can make it so your phone does not charge off the PC. Maybe you have found a new one!

funman said:
Are you using the wall charger or with the PC. Cus you will get more power input from the Wall. As so i dont know the reg key off hand but if you change one thing you can make it so your phone does not charge off the PC. Maybe you have found a new one!
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With both the wall charger and the pc usb plug. Checked the registry key and no way, it's ok.
It's really incredible, the total charge cycle takes a couple of hours, like if it were charging regularly, but after unplugging it goes down. It is like if the "carge counter" or similar records the charging, with the battery actually not receiving power.

did you solve your problem yet?

toanhung said:
did you solve your problem yet?
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Hell...no!

HD2 Died - Power Problem

Thats right.. last night i left my Leo charging, today when i woke up i noticed that the battery level was very low so.. i unplugged it and plugged it again, noticed that the orange led wasnt lighting up, neither was the phone charging.
The phone gets very very very hot when plugged to charger or USB port on my computer and does not charge at all.
Tried it all, left it all day long with the battery out of the phone, tried charging without it in.. and nothing..it just gets very hot where the connectors (pins) make contact with the battery.
Now im trying to charge the battery on a cradle to flash it with stock rom and SPL to get it to warranty..
Any of you guys has any thoughts?

I see i posted in the wrong section.
Thank u mod

Do you always charge via usb into pc? Is your cradle plugged into the wall or pc? I don't know if you have done this, probably so, but check in windows settings->system->Power and inside the battery tab see if the "When phone is on, do not charge the battery when connected to a PC" is checked.

Sean3 said:
Do you always charge via usb into pc? Is your cradle plugged into the wall or pc? I don't know if you have done this, probably so, but check in windows settings->system->Power and inside the battery tab see if the "When phone is on, do not charge the battery when connected to a PC."
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Yeah.. it crossed my mind to check for it, and that option is unchecked.
Though the charging "orange" led doesnt turn on even if the phone is off.
I usually charge it via usb->pc, allthough i tested with the wall charger and nothing.
I suspect it must have been a power surge that burnt in some way the PBC of the "charging module..thing"
Thanks for the suggestion

i'd check that none of the pins for the battery are in contact with each other if there is heat in that area.

Ok, I'm assuming then that the phone works, but just has low battery at the moment. If that's the case then it doesn't appear to be the battery or the leads. Any chance it's the cable? That of course assumes your using the same one with the cradle. I ask because my device didn't come with a wall charger, just a usb cable so I had to get a few extra plus a wall plug-in with a usb port.

Jack E said:
i'd check that none of the pins for the battery are in contact with each other if there is heat in that area.
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Yep already checked it..although if it was something wrong with the pins the phone wouldnt turn on.. i dunno

Sean3 said:
Ok, I'm assuming then that the phone works, but just has low battery at the moment. If that's the case then it doesn't appear to be the battery or the leads. Any chance it's the cable? That of course assumes your using the same one with the cradle. I ask because my device didn't come with a wall charger, just a usb cable so I had to get a few extra plus a wall plug-in with a usb port.
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I have a car charger also.. and nothing.
Your leo didnt came with a wall charger?

BillReed said:
I have a car charger also.. and nothing.
Your leo didnt came with a wall charger?
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Weird, but unfortunately it didn't. I think being in the US and getting the device from Telstra in Australia may be why I didn't. Well, if it is a hardware problem and you can't get it to charge from the device, I believe you can get a cradle that will allow you to charge the battery independant of the phone. I know it's not the best option on the planet, but it would get your battery where it needs to be to flash and confirm whether or not it's a charging issue with the battery itself.
Come to think of it, this did happen to me several weeks ago. I plugged the phone in before bed as usual and noticed the charging light didn't go on and the battery drained overnight from about 60% to 15%, which it shouldn't have done. Not in standby at least. Soft-reset the next day fixed it. It hasn't done it since. I was installing a bunch of things that evening, which may have been what did it.

I had a same problem with my hd2 and by some miracle and few days of pain
it workd again...and it workd about 5 days and same thing happend al over again...and I think I have solution!
It may be stupid but it work for me...
try to connect your hd2 to charger but without battery and then insert the battery and it should start up your phone and charging...
I apologizes for my poor english

mikelebrat said:
I had a same problem with my hd2 and by some miracle and few days of pain
it workd again...and it workd about 5 days and same thing happend al over again...and I think I have solution!
It may be stupid but it work for me...
try to connect your hd2 to charger but without battery and then insert the battery and it should start up your phone and charging...
I apologizes for my poor english
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I'll try that when i arrive home..

Not charging anymore (after 4 days only ...)

The tablet doesn't seem to be charging with the provided charger ... is this normal ? Any known issue ? Or just a defect (bad luck) charger ?

disconnect charger for 20 mins , retry check USB connector it can be inserted backward. remove country prong adapter,check and reattach. Make sure the battery is never discharged to zero. LiPos do not like this.

I freaked out like this too for a whole day until I realized that damn country prong adapter had come a little bit loose. Its unnoticeable, but does happen. Try like the previous poster said and remove and reattach the country adapter to the plug.

I will try this, but even plugged into computer it won't go over 15% ... and even discharge when plugged ...

masterfred said:
I will try this, but even plugged into computer it won't go over 15% ... and even discharge when plugged ...
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If you mean here you were trying to charge with the computer. It makes sense. as the usb port on a computer has very limited current capability and will charge with TF off but takes 24 hrs.

This happened to me as well. Took apart the charger, blew on it a couple times and dusted it off, then reattached the 2 pieces. It's now charging again!

[Q]Defy Charging Problem

Hi I've got a problem with my phone. If I connect it to the PC using orginal USB cable it charging, transfering data and so. But if I connect the phone to the wall charger it don't charge only screen wake up but no charging on battery icon. The wall charger is orginal too. I've tried changing ROMs.
This problem is really anoying so if You can, please help me.

You write you use the original charger, but do you also use the original USB cable? It matters, cheap USB cables do not work on the Defy :-(

seems some problem in wall socket adaptor

bartve said:
You write you use the original charger, but do you also use the original USB cable? It matters, cheap USB cables do not work on the Defy :-(
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Got to check that out, cause I've been wondering why I can charge my Defy+ in some wall chargers, some computers, and so far no car chargers. Would be great if the cables are the cause. Thanks

I use the orginal usb cable too

Madern said:
Hi I've got a problem with my phone. If I connect it to the PC using orginal USB cable it charging, transfering data and so. But if I connect the phone to the wall charger it don't charge only screen wake up but no charging on battery icon. The wall charger is orginal too. I've tried changing ROMs.
This problem is really anoying so if You can, please help me.
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There's nothing wrong with your phone, ROM, or USB cable, but your wall charger is broken.
Just get your charger replaced. That's what warranties are for.
The Defy doesn't really care about USB cables. If it's switched off it will charge anyway, so the ROM doesn't matter either. But it's very picky about the current and voltage stability of the charger. That's why many 3rd party chargers don't work no matter what cable you plug into it.

I was in non-official phones service and they check charging on another adaptors but i think they were not original. Anyway as i remember when lastly phone was charging it was a storm and on the next day it wasn't working but i'm not sure.

I know this thread is old but i didn't find solution to this problem, soooo:
The answer is = turn off debugging over USB

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I know this thread is old but i didn't find solution to this problem, soooo:
The answer is = turn off debugging over USB
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What's debugging got to do with wall charger??
Doesn't matter from where I send it, what matters is written above

So why when I turn it on i have problems with charging?
Bug?

if u use External charger u must charge ur phone with mcgyver for 10 min.
after that use the External charger.
becaz ur battery so low.

Charging Issue
I got the same problem from the day i bought the mobile... The service center people told its charger issue and need to replace the charger. So Changed the wall charger under warranty. It took around 2 months to get my charger back. But the things are same. It sometime charge. Sometimes the screen will on and didnt charge. I tried changing different Versions. Same thing. Even the service center people have no idea about it....

Could you check if the micro-usb connector of the phone or that of the cable is clean, dirt and dust reduces or prevents transfer rate of electricity.