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Nexus Prime dues end of OCTOBER

http://androidcommunity.com/nexus-prime-support-page-up-and-in-shambles-at-samsung-20110908/
Nexus Prime Support Page up and in shambles at Samsung
As I noted yesterday when we got word of a code hidden at Samsung’s mobile webspace, the Nexus line is one that, when you get any new information on it at ALL, you’ve gotta report it. You NEED to report it because when it comes to Android, there’s basically nothing more exciting for those who love purity than a Google-certified vanilla flavoring of a version of Android OS, and in this case, it means the launching of the next big platform, Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich. What we’ve got today is a rather preliminary looking support page for the device aka GT-I9250, this being otherwise known as the Nexus Prime.
This device is being shown here in a broken-down placeholder of a page which, when it comes down to it, doesn’t show us much of anything. On the other hand, there is a new set of supposed factoids this morning courtesy of a tipster speaking with GSM Arena. Take the following with a grain of salt, of course, but note that these are all possibilities:
“For one, our tipster says that the final name of the next Google flagship is Samsung Galaxy Nexus rather than Nexus Prime. It will have a 4.65″ screen of HD resolution – not 4.5″ WVGA. … screen is curved just like the Nexus S screen … device itself will be very thin – 8.8mm – and have a metal chassis … the launch date – at the end of October (right on the Ice Cream Sandwich schedule)” – tipster
Note again that for basically any other device we wouldn’t be as apt to publish a third-hand unnamed source like this, but these specs ring enough bells that they’re certainly inside the realm of reality. Keep your ears open and let’s get this device out of the closet sooner than later!
ALSO as a bonus, here’s our favorite well-played comment on the matter thus far:
“Galaxy Nexus is like naming your kid Ricky Bobby. Galaxy Prime would make more sense and sounds a lot better.” – Kenshiro
This man speaks truth!
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Better Save Money or Contract for this instead of getting SGS II aka Hercules

Idk about that...last night there was the XML leak saying its actually just the same resolution as the Vibrant is currently, but with a 4.65 screen. I have not seen anything today saying it will have an HD resolution.
Link: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_nexus_prime_listed_in_uaprof_on_samsung_site-news-3102.php

I talked to a Tmobile cc rep and she told me that the galaxy S2 is due early next month, she told me low key because they don't have prices yet
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}{Alienz}{ said:
Idk about that...last night there was the XML leak saying its actually just the same resolution as the Vibrant is currently, but with a 4.65 screen. I have not seen anything today saying it will have an HD resolution.
Link: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_nexus_prime_listed_in_uaprof_on_samsung_site-news-3102.php
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Google and Samsung should find a way to PUMP up Pixels in this jumbo screen otherwise they should jump back to IPS display to satisfy custumer . Samsung should move to new laser-based method, Laser Induced Thermal Imaging (LITI) from the currently-used shadow-mask method (FMM) to pump up the pixel density.

Point well taken--best to wait an extra month to get 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich Nexus Prime/Nexus Galaxy then to get 2.3 Gingerbread Galaxy S2. Also you will get updates directly from Google instead of waiting for TMO/Samsung (some say its TMO fault the Vibrant hasn't received Gingerbread, others say Sammy, depends whom you ask).

I have a terrible feeling this phone will be Verizon exclusive.... Ready to ditch my vibrant.
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Have you guys seen galaxy note that kind of screen is real so there is no doubt that it is real
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Mirmensky said:
I have a terrible feeling this phone will be Verizon exclusive.... Ready to ditch my vibrant.
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I was ready to ditch my vibrant to until I tried miui, its like a new phone and don't think I can ever go back to stock. You should give it a shot unless you already have.

badaphooko01 said:
I was ready to ditch my vibrant to until I tried miui, its like a new phone and don't think I can ever go back to stock. You should give it a shot unless you already have.
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You're right. Even though battery life on MIUI is nowhere compared to 2.2 but I also find my way back to MIUI .

nbhnohome said:
You're right. Even though battery life on MIUI is nowhere compared to 2.2 but I also find my way back to MIUI .
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When you say that battery life is nowhere compared to 2.2, on average how many hours are we talking in a normal day?
I use Toxic 8 and juice defender to limit the amount of data when my screen is off, and I'm getting around 20 or so hours. It's usually around 14-16 when I'm using it a little more during the day, but I don't do that as much anymore.
I've been wanting to try Miui for awhile now, but both the GPS and battery life have been talked to death on these boards. Just curious what your personal experiences have been since using it?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
- Mat

Damn. Choices choices choices. I hate it, I can't make my mind up.
Nexus, Note, GS2! Damn decisions.
Miui FTW!

badaphooko01 said:
I was ready to ditch my vibrant to until I tried miui, its like a new phone and don't think I can ever go back to stock. You should give it a shot unless you already have.
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I've been curious, just been too lazy to Odin back to froyo bootloaders.
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vetvito said:
Damn. Choices choices choices. I hate it, I can't make my mind up.
Nexus, Note, GS2! Damn decisions.
Miui FTW!
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note looks sweet, but last i heard there are no plans on releasing it in US anytime soon

vetvito said:
Damn. Choices choices choices. I hate it, I can't make my mind up.
Nexus, Note, GS2! Damn decisions.
Miui FTW!
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how badass does the note look!!!! will have to get the bigboy pants!!

was hoping it would be metal. **** yes!

If it's metal frame, YES, I'm down on it.

vetvito said:
Damn. Choices choices choices. I hate it, I can't make my mind up.
Nexus, Note, GS2! Damn decisions.
Miui FTW!
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Lol, ill simplify this for you...
Note, not coming to USA anytime soon, and when it does it wont be on tmo bands.
Gs2, the Hercules more than likely will have the same snapdrogon that's in the sensation. While nice, IMHO is not as good as the exynos in original sgs 2, and the omap 4 that will be in the prime. Also, because of this seems to me to be more of a lateral move from vibrant than a forward one.
Nexus, is the way to go. It will be stock android so waiting for updates wont happen again, also it will have top hardware and more than likely an HD screen which will look amazing.
Just wait for the nexus unless you absolutely need a phone now. It will be well worth the wait.
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Mattymat said:
When you say that battery life is nowhere compared to 2.2, on average how many hours are we talking in a normal day?
I use Toxic 8 and juice defender to limit the amount of data when my screen is off, and I'm getting around 20 or so hours. It's usually around 14-16 when I'm using it a little more during the day, but I don't do that as much anymore.
I've been wanting to try Miui for awhile now, but both the GPS and battery life have been talked to death on these boards. Just curious what your personal experiences have been since using it?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
- Mat
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battery life is alot better than it used to be when i started using miui, gps is ok not the best but it work atleast

hey guys currently
have omnia i910 really old now.
my provider is getting the s2 with 1.5ghz 4.5 screen - Telus
Should I just opt for the s2 or wait another month for the nexus?
Really need a new phone. Phone works but having a lot of service issue the phone been dropped one to many times.

Upgrade Advice: SGS II vs GNex

Dear xda,
To many of you this may seem like a stupid question, and are probably thinking "this idiot should just go do some research" - I already have. I can get an upgrade as early as the 28th March (Just over a month away). I am not considering the SGS II (I already know it will be too expensive)
So this is what I know to make my decision upon, any other developments, user experiences welcome.
Galaxy Nexus Pros:
-Google ICS
-Will receive latest updates
-4.65" Screen 720x1280 HD
-Aesthetically pleasing
Galaxy Nexus Cons:
-PenTile matrix screen [everyone or reddit says not to worry, this screen is the **** and a lot better than sgsII's)
-Price
-Worse Camera than SGS II
-Worse GPU than SGS II
-Worse CPU??
Galaxy S II Pros:
-Getting ICS
-Cheap (£26pcm - will drop with release of SGS III)
-Awesome hardware
Galaxy S II Cons:
-Smaller screen than GNex 4.2" 480x800 WVGA
-Almost a year old (however still comparable to Gnex which is a "brand new" device)
-Not sure: worse android development than GNex??
Also on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/q19aa/upgrade_advice_galaxy_nexus_vs_samsung_galaxy_s_ii/

By March 28 the SIII will probably be revealed...

ClaudiuJer said:
By March 28 the SIII will probably be revealed...
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May last I heard, but it'll be way too expensive, the only benefit it will give me is drive down the prices of those two phones.

Yes wait for a couple of months or you will repent for sure. Both the devices you have shortlisted will be outdated soon.
Sorry to say this here, but looks like Windows Phone 7 is also a good platform.
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There are new midrange phones expected from HTC. Waiting will be the best choice at the moment.
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Prices will come down but I don't think by that much as this is still a powerful phone. It's selling well and I doubt we will see the SGS3 that early as most likely they will try to have a same timeish global launch considering it's pretty new in the States. I personally think they will try to compete with the iPhone 5 than anything else so may get a delayed launch but that's just what I think!
Hold tight as rumours it may get announced at the Amsterdam event next month so we may or may not get an indication of release date.

From a specs standpoint, the practical difference in high end Android devices is absolutely nothing. You aren't doing any computationally intensive operations like compiling source code or video conversions. You're running games and social media apps and texting and looking at emails.
Sure, the GSII has more megapixels, but I can't tell a difference in the picture quality. Plus, the Galaxy Nexus has a much fast shutter speed, which more than makes up for the 3 megapixels it's giving to the GSII.
The screen surface of the Galaxy Nexus is smoother than the screen surface of the GSII. I have no idea why, but the GSII isn't nearly as easy to fling your thumb across and shows fingerprints more.
The Galaxy Nexus has a recovery partition, the GSII doesn't. The Galaxy Nexus development is thriving and probably has 5 or 6 ROMs that are built from Android Source. There are 2 AOSP roms for GSII and several Samsung-based ROMs.
Really, I love both of the phones. There are ALWAYS better phones on the horizon. Always. Don't wait.

evolutiontheory said:
Yes wait for a couple of months or you will repent for sure. Both the devices you have shortlisted will be outdated soon.
Sorry to say this here, but looks like Windows Phone 7 is also a good platform.
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Nononononononono, no windows, no. lol, nah I'm sticking to what I know, screw WP or iOS - Android is the future, plus I've got a ton of paid apps.
evolutiontheory said:
There are new midrange phones expected from HTC. Waiting will be the best choice at the moment.
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No more HTC - do not like sense, and my HTC Desire has had a horrible track record of breaking, only good thing I can think of is customer service.
nikzDHD said:
Prices will come down but I don't think by that much as this is still a powerful phone. It's selling well and I doubt we will see the SGS3 that early as most likely they will try to have a same timeish global launch considering it's pretty new in the States. I personally think they will try to compete with the iPhone 5 than anything else so may get a delayed launch but that's just what I think!
Hold tight as rumours it may get announced at the Amsterdam event next month so we may or may not get an indication of release date.
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I'm in no rush anyway if I'm honest, the earliest I can upgrade is the 28th March (officially ends June 28th), I just want to know where I stand with phones so I can get right in there and not have to ponder too much about what I'm going to go for. It's funny to see the idiot salesmen try to push crap onto you though (I was told the Buzz is better than the Bravo when I was getting it).

bortak said:
Nononononononono, no windows, no. lol, nah I'm sticking to what I know, screw WP or iOS - Android is the future, plus I've got a ton of paid apps.
No more HTC - do not like sense, and my HTC Desire has had a horrible track record of breaking, only good thing I can think of is customer service.
I'm in no rush anyway if I'm honest, the earliest I can upgrade is the 28th March (officially ends June 28th), I just want to know where I stand with phones so I can get right in there and not have to ponder too much about what I'm going to go for. It's funny to see the idiot salesmen try to push crap onto you though (I was told the Buzz is better than the Bravo when I was getting it).
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Definitely will upgrade to Galaxy Nexus from current SGS II
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I will recomand SGSII i had GNex and was a bit dissapointing,a little bit laggy worse camera and the build quality is not so good

I would go for the galaxy nexus 100%. If i had the choice i would myself or wait for the s3. But nexus will get updates quicker and its "pure".
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Not nearly all nexuses are getting updates straight from google, also it has lots of pixels so lots of work to do for gpu so it might be a bit laggy
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The buttons being on-screen on the Nexus would worry me a bit, they're going to cause some annoying screen burn.
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had the Gnex for a week. Its really overhyped, im sorry to say. There is actually nothing i really preferred over the SGS2. Even the screen was not as bright and vibrant.
Go with the sgs2.

Since you crossposted this thread in the Galaxy Nexus General section, I have to close this down in accordance with XDA rules
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As a large forum we don't need unnecessary clutter, You're free to edit your message as you like, so if you do not receive an answer revisit your message and see if you can describe your problem better. Not everyone is online at the same time, it might take a while before you receive an answer.
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Buy CM a N7100 for development.?

Is anyone up for the idea to start a collection to buy the CM team a N7100 so they can start working on getting us cm10?
When I spoke to xplodwild this was his reply
Guillaume (@xplodwild) tweeted at 7:21 PM on Fri, Oct 05, 2012:
@iseeguy Assuming someone do it, because as of now nobody have one neither wants to buy one.
(https://twitter.com/xplodwild/status/254149189792047104)
I'm happy to organise this with the CM team to kickoff development
Who's thinks it's a good idea?

I've donated to previous initiatives and will again

Just an FYI:
I not only have no interest in purchasing a device, but if you gave me a free one and offered $2000, I would say no.
I have better things to do than waste countless hours of my time fighting another non-Nexus Exynos.
xplodwild may be more receptive to continuing with Exynos, but at least in the case of myself and codeworkx, we are done. Our current devices are going to be our last Exynos devices unless Samsung makes major changes.

This is why I'll keep my note 1
Already on Jb PA
Maybe when development for the note 2 is already a big boy is change for it. Probably not.
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Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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Gordon Ramsay said:
Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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Well said!

Far enough, but it was worth a try
Can the mods please delete this thread.

Gordon Ramsay said:
Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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+1,5
- f3w1n -

Entropy512 said:
Just an FYI:
I not only have no interest in purchasing a device, but if you gave me a free one and offered $2000, I would say no.
I have better things to do than waste countless hours of my time fighting another non-Nexus Exynos.
xplodwild may be more receptive to continuing with Exynos, but at least in the case of myself and codeworkx, we are done. Our current devices are going to be our last Exynos devices unless Samsung makes major changes.
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Sounds like you lost your passion, and the reason you started doing this. Since when did people do it for it being easy? That is beyond dissapointing. I think you forgot how this all started sir.

I completely support this especially if its just for a dev to do it unofficially, but remember guys we can't hold the dev responsible for getting it done. You have to go into thinking your donating for the dev to have the phone and use it as they like not donate thinking your donating for that dev to be obligated to bring cm10. In the rezound forum we got a phone for protekk to help with aosp and people got demanding and were expecting him to bring it since they donated. This tore apart that community for a long time. So if you donate do it as a donation and not an expectation
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Gordon Ramsay said:
Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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I would say that Paranoid Android is absolutely perfect for the Note. S-Pen can be handled through different applications like GNote, Memo etc. The ability to run applications in tablet mode is such an enhancement of the device that I don´t see any single feature with the Note II that somehow "compensates".
I can agree that pure CM10 isn´t the most interesting thing on the Note II since it has the phone UI but Paranoid Android is a completely different matter.
Since PA relies on CM, it is very important to get it for the N7100 in order to get going.
Windowed applications is very nice but also a feature I guess will be implemented in either AOSP or CM in the future. Don´t forget Overskreen and FloatNote etc.

I thought at first porting CM10 would be easy in it's current state due to shared hardware with S3. I would understand if they dropped future exynos but this is an existing thing already with minor differences.
I would donate too if we can see a new maintainer taking on the device. Would be a shame not having CM on the device. It brings so much stuff for what it is and also other devs bringing their extra tweaks on top of it. A wonderful ecosystem I wanna to see and follow on xda and my device =(
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Gordon Ramsay said:
Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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Let's be honest here for just one moment, the Samsung S apps and the stylus are gimmicks that will be used once when the note is purchased then abandoned. I've owned the original note and now the note 2 and I never once pickup up the stylus for anything
What's more valuable is a fast, smooth and reliable OS
Just my opinion of course.

ipguy said:
Let's be honest here for just one moment, the Samsung S apps and the stylus are gimmicks that will be used once when the note is purchased then abandoned. I've owned the original note and now the note 2 and I never once pickup up the stylus for anything
What's more valuable is a fast, smooth and reliable OS
Just my opinion of course.
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To you, but to many others (the majority of people) what Samsung is doing with features is why they are making the purchase. Honestly its mainly because of the new features as to why I'm going to upgade. I'll still have my OG note running PA CM10, which I love.
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erick161 said:
To you, but to many others (the majority of people) what Samsung is doing with features is why they are making the purchase. Honestly its mainly because of the new features as to why I'm going to upgade. I'll still have my OG note running PA CM10, which I love.
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Let agree to disagree then!

CurrentlyPissed said:
Sounds like you lost your passion, and the reason you started doing this. Since when did people do it for it being easy? That is beyond dissapointing. I think you forgot how this all started sir.
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There's a difference between challenging, and utterly freaking impossible.
Challenging: Going through source and fixing bugs or adding new features. For example, for months I've wanted to try and rework the Exynos suspend/resume code to be more power efficient. (It locks cpufreq at 800 MHz and disables cpuidle for the entire suspend/resume cycle, which eats power. Also SOME interrupt service handler eats huge amounts of CPU on resume (the root cause of the classic Gingerbread "Android OS" bugs), and I'd like to figure out which one and see if it can be optimized.
Utterly freaking impossible: On a routine basis, figuring out what Samsung broke in their blobs and why it doesn't work the way it should. Trying to take totally broken nonfunctional source code and get it to work properly with zero documentation. See hwcomposer - unless a miracle happens, we will be continually stuck fighting blobs that Samsung gave us. Their blobs have some sort of significant magic not present in any reference source. The reference source creates a broken piece of **** that's almost indistinguishable from not having any hwc at all.
I've spent 10-20 hours or more per week of my spare time over the past three weeks fighting hwcomposer and making absolutely zero progress. I'm tired of flailing against a brick wall and getting nothing other than bloody knuckles.
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I thought at first porting CM10 would be easy in it's current state due to shared hardware with S3. I would understand if they dropped future exynos but this is an existing thing already with minor differences.
I would donate too if we can see a new maintainer taking on the device. Would be a shame not having CM on the device. It brings so much stuff for what it is and also other devs bringing their extra tweaks on top of it. A wonderful ecosystem I wanna to see and follow on xda and my device =(
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No, porting CM10 won't be easy due to shared hardware with the S3. Have you noticed no Exynos device has M builds? Have you noticed that Exynos devices are almost always one of the last "flagship-class" devices to receive nightlies?
CM9 should never have been marked stable on Exynos devices - too many bugs remain and we lowered our standards for "stable" too much.
CM10 on Exynos is incredibly far from reaching M builds let alone a stable release and I don't think we have the manpower, motivation, or energy to take it to to the finish line, let alone the documentation needed to do so.
And what about CM11? The whole mess will just start all over again, if any maintainers are left on Exynos by then. Again, we'll be flailing against undocumented crap that didn't even quite work right with the Android version it was designed for, while those working on platforms that have proper documentation and reference source (OMAP and Qualcomm) will start moving ahead immediately. See JB on Qcoms - They took only a month or two to get ahead of where Exynos4 devices are NOW, 4-5 months after JB went live, and over half of the work those guys were doing was forward-merging CM customizations from CM9.

ipguy said:
I've owned the original note and now the note 2 and I never once pickup up the stylus for anything
What's more valuable is a fast, smooth and reliable OS
Just my opinion of course.
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Then I wonder why did you buy Note at first place! IMO it's that S-Pen which makes this Note series special than other flagships like S series, and in Note II it has just gotten better.
And about your 2nd paragraph, say whatever, but kindly exclude the word 'reliable' from that list.
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ithehappy said:
Then I wonder why did you buy Note at first place! IMO it's that S-Pen which makes this Note series special than other flagships like S series, and in Note II it has just gotten better.
And about your 2nd paragraph, say whatever, but kindly exclude the word 'reliable' from that list.
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I purchased the note for the screen size mainly.
Isn't a reliable OS important?

ipguy said:
I purchased the note for the screen size mainly.
Isn't a reliable OS important?
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To me a reliable OS is all that matters. But you didn't get the point what I've tried to say.
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ipguy said:
I purchased the note for the screen size mainly.
Isn't a reliable OS important?
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That's the primary reason I got my Note. Even if it didn't have a stylus I would've bought it for the screen.
Also, there are now plenty of pen apps that use the standard Android stylus APIs, so the Samsung-specific stuff is irrelevant at this point. For example, PS Touch works just fine on the Note 10.1 in AOSP. So does Quill, Papyrus, Memo Beta, LectureNotes, and a number of other apps.
The only thing beyond that which is missing are stylus gestures, and that's primarily an issue of manpower. I would've forward ported and cleaned up masiullah's pen gestures patches a month or two ago if there weren't a pile of other massively broken things unrelated to stylus.

Want to buy Nexus 4. Still a good device?

Hey guys,
I am thinking about getting a Nexus 4 to replace my HTC Sensation. The Sensation has many problems such as huge battery drain and it gets extremely hot during usage. So I thought the Nexus 4 would be a great idea. Pure Android (huge fan of that, was using CM for a long time on my Senny) and Google Support sound good and the price seems to be okay to (I could buy a 16GB variant for about 310€).
Is this phone great? Is it still worth buying considering it's already nearly a year old? Does it have some know problems such as huge battery drain or display problems?
I need this phone for browsing, using the calendar, writing emails/sms and sometimes taking photos. I don't play any games on it except 4 pictures 1 word.
Thanks in advance!

I too came from a Sensation, and it's a fine upgrade, for all the reasons you mention. Perhaps not as durable as HTC's build quality, so be sure to include a decent cover (I use the Diztronic TPU and it looks factory) to protect that beautiful glass. It's a joy to use..you can't go wrong. Cheers!

I just got one a couple days ago. I'm really liking it. Great jump from a galaxy s2
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paranoid android85 said:
I just got one a couple days ago. I'm really liking it. Great jump from a galaxy s2
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X2
I came from a galaxy s2, and previously HOX tegra. I bought a N4 2 weeks ago, and in stock its pretty smooth, awesome i'd say. Better price/performance choice. You wont regret
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I bought a Nex4 about 6 weeks ago after being a long term BB user, our company provide BB but have just let us go BYOD. I got N4 to replace the BB and so far it hasn't disappointed in any way. I also wanted the pure Android experience after my N10. The phone has been a good choice.
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Honestly, if that is all you use your phone for, you should get the Lumia 1020. But if you want to stay with Android and can wait 4 more months, the 5th Nexus will be out then and should the price be as low as the Nexus4, then it would be better to get that.

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Honestly, if that is all you use your phone for, you should get the Lumia 1020. But if you want to stay with Android and can wait 4 more months, the 5th Nexus will be out then and should the price be as low as the Nexus4, then it would be better to get that.
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The Lumia 1020 would be out of the price range. I'd never pay 400€+ for a phone I only use for work. I probably can't wait till the next release because the Senny really bugs me. I can't use a phone which burns in my hand because it's getting extremely hot while chewing through battery like nothing. My Sensation barely gets through the day with moderate use.
€: And I don't like WP because I'm a huge fan of costumization.

Keep the Sensation or whatever you have and wait for Nexus 5, trust me on this.
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Keep the Sensation or whatever you have and wait for Nexus 5, trust me on this.
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I can't sincerely tell someone to purchase a 7 month old device when knowing a faster device will come for the same price in due time.

Well you can go on buying Nexus 4, everything is a beauty when you compare prices and then it is a google phone so it always have it perks.
If you think you should wait for nexus 5 then its not very much pretty soon bcz this time google launched s4 and htc one as google variant which means next nexus will take time.
Your tasks which u need to perform as you have mentioned would all be performed very well.
Tip I can give even for better battery.
Unlock the bootloader, use custom recovery such as CWM and flash CM 10.1 stable releases which ever is latest.
Find franco kernel and flash that and for better colours use its colour profile.
You will have an outstanding experiance with great display and great battery time.
Best of luck.
NOTE. All decision is urs what ever suits you best.
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I can't sincerely tell someone to purchase a 7 month old device when knowing a faster device will come for the same price in due time.
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People will and should buy the device that suits their needs and the price they are willing to pay.
If you want a unlocked / contract free phone the device is a good choice
The entire motion that a new device will be out in a couple months is pointless. He wants a phone now. A couple months is just that. A couple months living with a phone he doesn't want. Then when the next nexus device comes out there will be the next best thing on the horizon.
He a is a basic user that doesn't participate in the stupid I need the lastest and greatest hw spec race.
Sitting around waiting for 4 plus months for a device is just stupid.
Why buy a HTC one now? The plus version is coming? Why by a s4 now? The advanced or whatever version with the 800 is coming in a couple of months.

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People will and should buy the device that suits their needs and the price they are willing to pay.
If you want a unlocked / contract free phone the device is a good choice
The entire motion that a new device will be out in a couple months is pointless. He wants a phone now. A couple months is just that. A couple months living with a phone he doesn't want. Then when the next nexus device comes out there will be the next best thing on the horizon.
He a is a basic user that doesn't participate in the stupid I need the lastest and greatest hw spec race.
Sitting around waiting for 4 plus months for a device is just stupid.
Why buy a HTC one now? The plus version is coming? Why by a s4 now? The advanced or whatever version with the 800 is coming in a couple of months.
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To each their own, I cannot speak for the needs of TC nor their personal interests. Whether he's comfortable with waiting X months is currently unknown and has not been divulged in this topic, so we can agree to disagree.

He said he probably can't wait for the next release because his phone bugs him.
Even a device like the HTC first would suit him fine hardware and software wise. Not unlocked and cheap of course ( don't even think it launched outside the US or unlocked) but just talking the device itself
There are plenty of users who are not concerned with the I can read the spec sheet pissing matches. Wait for the latest and greatest chip so they can have a higher score in benchmarks etc.

Its definitely still worth buying full price. Its a great device especially if you're a fan of stock android like you said.
Happy phoning.

I really don't need high specs. Benchmarks never intersted me because at the end you probably won't feel any difference between for example the snapdragon 600 and the snapdragon 800 in everyday use. I just want the phone to work well without stuttering and without any hick ups.
Send from my flying Note 2

If you need a phone now, just go for it. If you are not in a hurry, you can wait and see what comes up. IMO I usually don't want the first batch of the phone anyway since they are usually the ones with problems.

just buy it
I highly recommend nexus 4.. Believe me it's as smooth as HTC one out even better..
Root and flash cyanogenmod and Franco kernel... That made me a delighted user from a happy user...
Besides it'll have developer support for hell lot of a time to come... Even after people forget about HTC one and s4..
:good::good:

I'm going to buy it at the end of August and I think it is still worth it. However reading this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2259334 scaried me!

Who's getting one?

Hey Guys and Gals
The Desire 820's Specifications look impressive for a mid-range device, featuring a 64bit processor and 2 high quality cameras, high resolution selfie anybody?:laugh:
The main let down being a lower resolution display compared to some of the high end devices, would this stop anybody purchasing this device?
So, who plans this as their next upgrade?

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Hey Guys and Gals
The Desire 820's Specifications look impressive for a mid-range device, featuring a 64bit processor and 2 high quality cameras, high resolution selfie anybody?:laugh:
The main let down being a lower resolution display compared to some of the high end devices, would this stop anybody purchasing this device?
So, who plans this as their next upgrade?
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I am on 816x for now and can't wait to make this one as my next target. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Planning to buy one for me...
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I'm going to buy this device as soon it hits Europe, ofc if the price will be reasonable in the country I live in.
Actually I realised that this phone exists yesterday, and I'm impressed. I think it will be a great upgrade from my Xperia SP.

I am using nexus 4 and planning to buy nexus 6, however, nexus 6 is hugely overpriced.
Desire 820 has my attention now, I would like to have a dual sim phone, but the most concern for me is the availability of CM11 / other native android rom, I don't need those junk system apps on the phone.

When is this device expected to launch worldwide? It was announced so long ago but it's still not out. ... i want my colleagues who want an affordable phone to get this.
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I am using nexus 4 and planning to buy nexus 6, however, nexus 6 is hugely overpriced.
Desire 820 has my attention now, I would like to have a dual sim phone, but the most concern for me is the availability of CM11 / other native android rom, I don't need those junk system apps on the phone.
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The sixth Sense isn't that bad when it comes to stuff you mantioned But I think the phone will get some attention due to its affordability and specs. It's the first device with Qcom octa-core and 64bit, so I think it will be a pleasure to work with that for devs.
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When is this device expected to launch worldwide? It was announced so long ago but it's still not out. ... i want my colleagues who want an affordable phone to get this.
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It's expected to launch worldwide on 4th November. I guess all we can do is wait.

Id love to get this phone but as i am in the uk it feels like ill be getting it christmas 2015 rather than this year. Finding info on a UK release is proving very difficult and rather farcical considering it was announced months ago.
I emailed htc customer support and even they have no idea when it is due out, just that they are planning to 'in the future'.

Hopefully in April
I really love the specs i'm seeing and i like the size, but i'm waiting for developement on the device to build up a bit, like a official lolipop upgrade and a CM11/12build or some other AOSP roms etc. But its seems great at a really reasonable price

Am getting this one this week.. [emoji4][emoji4]

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Am getting this one this week.. [emoji4][emoji4]
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I really love the specs i'm seeing and i like the size, but i'm waiting for developement on the device to build up a bit, like a official lolipop upgrade and a CM11/12build or some other AOSP roms etc. But its seems great at a really reasonable price
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I just got one.... Upgraded from and SG-S4, I'm pleased so far but want to get some use in the states to make a final opinion. I too can't wait for more development on this phone.

Yesssss!!!!!
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I just got one.... Upgraded from and SG-S4, I'm pleased so far but want to get some use in the states to make a final opinion. I too can't wait for more development on this phone.
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Let me know how things go, Do you find the phone out matches the SG-S4? tbh i'm sorta torn between the (over priced) Note 3, SG-S4 and this one.

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Let me know how things go, Do you find the phone out matches the SG-S4? tbh i'm sorta torn between the (over priced) Note 3, SG-S4 and this one.
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I definitely prefer htc's stock camera. Stock battery seems to last longer too, however I tweaked my s4 so much I don't think anything stock could match the battery life I was getting out of my sg4's custom kernel.
Other than that I just really miss the dev aspect. I might take it up as a hobby just to unlock this baby's potential.

My desire 820 will be delivered tomorrow morning. Hope so. So any recommendations before using it for the first time to improve battery life,performance and others??

Rooting Question
Anyone managed to root the Desire 820s yet? cant seem to make it S-OFF.