My N4 is coming Wednesday, I want to root it and flash the Xylon rom to it... only, last time I rooted was with the Droid 1 and I stayed stock...
My question is do I need to do an initial setup backup then root and flash the rom or can I backup then root then flash the rom and use that as my first setup?
You cannot backup without having root first. So you will lose everything. When you unlock the bootloader, everything gets deleted. That's why when you first get the phone you should root it. Then if you like you can backup the ROM in case that you ever want to go back to stock.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Eddy130306 said:
You cannot backup without having root first. So you will lose everything. When you unlock the bootloader, everything gets deleted. That's why when you first get the phone you should root it. Then if you like you can backup the ROM in case that you ever want to go back to stock.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would like to correct you there. You can backup app data using Koush's Carbon app, which you can find on Google Play. Made by the same guy behind CWM. A very simple app that uses some sort of loophole to make backups even on non-rooted devices.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
Related
Hi
Just a quick question , is it possible to root again on 4.1.2 if you were on 4.1.1 stock only rooted not unlocked.
Without loosing all the data?
Cheers
PS: this is my first post!
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
+1 and I don't want to unlock and relock, there was a method taken from galaxy nexus but doesn't work anymore after 4.1.2 update
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
auda said:
+1 and I don't want to unlock and relock, there was a method taken from galaxy nexus but doesn't work anymore after 4.1.2 update
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why would you want to relock?
Just unlock, root and be done with it.
Sent from my Nexus 7
Unlocked and rooted now. Just made the regular backup through rooting toolkit and voila and everything back to as it was after restore. Didn't take too LNG either for backup or restore.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
@krelvinaz
as unlocking bootloader is not necessary for me (i dont flash new roms , ...etc )
also you know that feeling you are doing something wrong took me awhile (lack of courage) to root
@ghostaa
noob question , did the backup restores everything (even the widgets you placed on your home screens, i hate to customize it again)
Nope backup didn't restore the widgets but apart from it everything else was!
Hope this would help...
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
Hi all,
I used to be a hard core iOS user and just boarded on android wagon with my nexus 4 version 4.2.1. I am still learning my ways around android coolness and stumbled upon apps like display control for nexus 4 or titanium backup etc which require root access.
Can I just root and install these apps or any other apps which needs root access without unlocking the boatloader (From what I have heard it will wipe phone and is only useful if there is a need to install custom roms...which I have no use for as of now..just root)
Thanks in advance.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
I'm pretty sure you need to unlock bootloader to root..
I recently rooted and was able to back up everything.. I dont think I lost anything when I restored my backup
You only need to unlock the boot loader if you are going to flash custom ROMs. Other you can leave it locked and just root it.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
The short answer is that you must unlock.
The long answer is that in theory you could achieve root without unlocking but in practice any other method is just too difficult.
No one is going to make the effort when backing up all your files, unlocking, then starting again with an empty phone, is about a million times easier.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
Use a new app called carbon backup. No need for root. It backs up app data etc...
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Backup your apps + data (photos) with titanium backup, then copy the folder to your computer or sync with Dropbox. After unlocking bootloader (wipe) just copy /sync The folder back
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
calanizzle said:
Backup your apps + data (photos) with titanium backup, then copy the folder to your computer or sync with Dropbox. After unlocking bootloader (wipe) just copy /sync The folder back
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Titanium requires root
Read this if you want to have root with a locked bootloader.
But you still have to unlock and lock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
I was under the same situation, but part of learning is breaking stuff.
I had to reinstall the stock rom in my phone twice in the first week, and lost all my settings in the process, I would just say that rooting is worth the process and the pain.
And carbon backup does not require root
I have unlocked and rooted my Nexus 7, and I plan to do the same with my Nexus 4, so I'll go ahead and ask the question here.
Once I unlock and root, could I, and should I relock the bootloader, and if so, will it wipe all data again, but leave it rooted? In other words, I want to root, but have heard that leaving the bootloader unlocked is a bad idea. If the response applies to both my 4 and 7, please advise.
wvcadle said:
I have unlocked and rooted my Nexus 7, and I plan to do the same with my Nexus 4, so I'll go ahead and ask the question here.
Once I unlock and root, could I, and should I relock the bootloader, and if so, will it wipe all data again, but leave it rooted? In other words, I want to root, but have heard that leaving the bootloader unlocked is a bad idea. If the response applies to both my 4 and 7, please advise.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Bootloader unlocked may void warranty.
Unlock bootloader. Root phone. Relock bootloader.
But when u install an OTA u have to do the same process again because
u lose root.
Unjustable said:
Bootloader unlocked may void warranty.
Unlock bootloader. Root phone. Relock bootloader.
But when u install an OTA u have to do the same process again because
u lose root.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If I unlocked, rooted, but didn't relock, will relocking wipe my tablet/phone again?
wvcadle said:
If I unlocked, rooted, but didn't relock, will relocking wipe my tablet/phone again?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I believe it's only when unlocking. But can't tell 100% sure
Thanks to all folks for taking the time to contribute here.
OK..so what I am hearing is that I can unlock the boot loader for root but that's not mandatory. Correct? Is not t advisable ?
Also will I lose ota updates if I
1) just root, no unlocking boot loader
2) root + unlocking boot loader
Again I have no idea on androids world of custom Roms and kernels
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
anx.sap said:
Thanks to all folks for taking the time to contribute here.
OK..so what I am hearing is that I can unlock the boot loader for root but that's not mandatory. Correct? Is not t advisable ?
Also will I lose ota updates if I
1) just root, no unlocking boot loader
2) root + unlocking boot loader
Again I have no idea on androids world of custom Roms and kernels
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You need to unlock bootloader to root. I don't believe there's an exploit for rooting with a locked bootloader for jellybean.
You won't lose ota if you unlock and/or root. Just make sure the phone is only rooted and no system files are modified
Flowed and Tapped from my Nexus
anx.sap said:
Hi all,
I used to be a hard core iOS user and just boarded on android wagon with my nexus 4 version 4.2.1. I am still learning my ways around android coolness and stumbled upon apps like display control for nexus 4 or titanium backup etc which require root access.
Can I just root and install these apps or any other apps which needs root access without unlocking the boatloader (From what I have heard it will wipe phone and is only useful if there is a need to install custom roms...which I have no use for as of now..just root)
Thanks in advance.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You need to unlock the bootloader if you want to root. But you can side load apps (Not using Play Store) without rooting.
Unless the app requires root for the app to function correctly.
Thanks so much guys. I went ahead and unlocked the boatloader followed by root. I used the wugfresh toolkit and it was a cakewalk. I didnt install any custom recovery.
The only problem is dolphin browser beta has stopped working now. It was great before.
Also, should I re lock the boot loader...and how.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
I found the cause. The ad block plus app is no blocking the dolphin beta browser.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
You only need to re lock it if you return it for warranty. The stickies have many guides showing how.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
juicyjones said:
You only need to re lock it if you return it for warranty. The stickies have many guides showing how.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+ back to stock first
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
I rooted with Ñ7 one click tool back when JB 44.1.1 ruled and all was well, Titanium Backup ran we'll. A few upgrades later later TB still runs well but I just tried unsuccessfully to install stick mount and Locksreen Policy only partially works asking if I have root. I ran Root Checker Basic and it says I don't have proper root.
So, can and should I use another root technique on top of the old one?
Sent from my Nexus 10 using xda premium
Flash that in Recovery http://downloads.noshufou.netdna-cdn.com/superuser/Superuser-3.2-RC3-arm-signed.zip
Flashed the above, still no root and TB stopped working /no root/. Flashed 3.13 and TB is again working.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using xda premium
joe2262 said:
Flashed the above, still no root and TB stopped working /no root/. Flashed 3.13 and TB is again working.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No clue I have and would never use a utility on a Nexus for ANY reason. What did you do to make it lose root?
Hey everyone
just updated ota to 4.2.2 and lost root. Superuser is not working. Any help?
thanks
inc188 said:
Hey everyone
just updated ota to 4.2.2 and lost root. Superuser is not working. Any help?
thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You will always loose root when u update if u don't use a root keeper app. Just reroot your N4
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
DowntownJeffBrown said:
You will always loose root when u update if u don't use a root keeper app. Just reroot your N4
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks.. any suggestions on how to re root? perhaps an easy method
and what apps do you recommend for root keeper?
Its like supersu pro or whatever.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
Just flash recovery and then download the supersu zip. Flash the supersu and you are rooted
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
I used CWM to install the original zip. It prompted me before rebooting if I want to keep root/recovery and to fix it.
I used this thread to reroot using adb...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1993331
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
I used the Nexus 4 1.3 toolkit with updated files
As a precaution I backed up my folders and make a Titanium backup. Technically re-rooting will not WIPE phone like it did first time I purchased it.
I could have installed CWM but prefer to keep this phone stock, considering its as pure as it will ever be and want the OTA updates.
But there are so many options to get ROOT lots of options. Love it so far.
You can use cwm for flashing the ota to avoid the hassle of using adb sideload. You can choose stock recovery after flashing the su zip. Just use the cwm to flash ota and su. Just my 2 cents
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
I just paid the £1.95 for Su Pro, which keeps root over OTA updates. Worth the money IMHO, I have wasted more time that that in faffing around each time.
Just rooting it like you did first time will work.
Sent from my Nexus 4 via Tapatalk
syamilsatanick said:
Just flash recovery and then download the supersu zip. Flash the supersu and you are rooted
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This ^^^
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
inc188 said:
Hey everyone
just updated ota to 4.2.2 and lost root. Superuser is not working. Any help?
thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just root again, OTA will make your phone rooted again!!!
Wow. Thanks everyone. I am gonna try a few these. I had no idea su pro kept root. Only had i known
I learn.
After you reroot, get OTA Root Keeper from the Play Store so you can restore root in the future after an OTA
ok... so i figured out an easy way... i used nexus toolkit to root in the first place and then saw this on wug's website... followed the direction and got root back... Thanks everyone for your help
also, its not clear below, but these files are replaced on your computer under C:\Program Files\WugFresh Development\data
"Yes, I am aware that this isn’t working on 4.2.2 right now. This will be fixed in v1.6.3 which will be released ASAP (within a few days or sooner if possible). As a temporary fix you can replace the old adb/fastboot/dll files in the toolkits /data directory with the new ones: new_adb_and_fastboot.zip just download that zip and extract/unzip its contents into the toolkits /data directory and agree to overwrite those files, then proceed to use “Any Build” mode to perform subsequent operations like rooting. Again, this is just a temporary fix for those who are impatient."
I just got my Nexus and installed the update to 4.2.2. Did I just screw myself on Rom and rooting
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using xda premium
big70tom said:
I just got my Nexus and installed the update to 4.2.2. Did I just screw myself on Rom and rooting
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No you're fine. I just got mine yesterday and naturally the first thing I did was update. The steps to unlock the bootloader and flash a recovery (or SuperSU, if you want root on stock ROM) are the same regardless of Android version.
EDIT: Also you DON'T NEED TO ROOT to use ROMs—all ROMs come with root already built in. Skip everything to do with rooting, unless you're trying to root and stay on the stock ROM.
All you need is to unlock the bootloader (ridiculously easy) and flash a custom recovery (also super easy). Then, without root, use the custom recovery to wipe and flash your ROM (which has root built in) and gapps.