[Q] pentile? what is it, why bad? - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

seems like a big issue for some people...whats wrong with it any? any video examples?
comparing my Thunderbolt to a S3, screen quality loooks waaaaaay better on S3 to me

huh ..... its not pentile
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yahyoh said:
huh ..... its not pentile
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it's diamond matrix.

HandsomeAssDomo said:
it's diamond matrix.
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Which means?

huh? according to engadget it is pentile..
i just saw threads elsewhere saying people are pissed at that and im wondering why?
Samsung's staying the course with the overall design language, though it's expanded the screen size to five inches -- now powered by a Full HD Super AMOLED display with 441 ppi (and yes, it's still PenTile).
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/14/samsung-galaxy-s-4-preview/

djcyph said:
huh? according to engadget it is pentile..
i just saw threads elsewhere saying people are pissed at that and im wondering why?
http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/14/samsung-galaxy-s-4-preview/
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Engadget seems engaged in a battle against Samsung just look at their bashing post.
Swyped from another galaxy

Even if it was pentile u couldn't notice at that resolution
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skivnit said:
Engadget seems engaged in a battle against Samsung just look at their bashing post.
Swyped from another galaxy
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Even if it was pentile u couldn't notice at that resolution
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but its not
it using diamond arrangement
and no body no if it's better than the weird RGB on the Note2 or brighter ​

Lol
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i found this
A method of determining implied sample areas for each data point of each color in a source pixel data specified in a first sub-pixel format is used for sub-pixel rendering an image on a display specified in a second sub-pixel format. Each of the first and second sub-pixel formats comprises a plurality of colored sub-pixels. The method comprises determining a geometric center of each colored sub-pixel of the first format to define a sampling point; and defining each implied sample area by forming lines that are substantially equidistant between the sampling point of one colored sub-pixel and the sampling point of another neighboring same color colored sub-pixel. A similar technique may be used for determining resample areas for computing color values for rendering an image specified in a first sub-pixel format on a display substantially comprising a plurality of colored sub-pixels arranged in a second sub-pixel format.
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http://www.strutpatent.com/patent/0...to-another-sub-pixel-data-format#!prettyPhoto

thanks guys...the people at AC are crying thats it pentile and i was just wondering why!
getting it no mater what...like i said, huge upgrade from Thunderbolt for me

djcyph said:
huh? according to engadget it is pentile..
i just saw threads elsewhere saying people are pissed at that and im wondering why?
http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/14/samsung-galaxy-s-4-preview/
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Let's not talk about engadget. Their integrity and competence is zero. They are always at war with samsung. I can give you a big list of proofs, but the discussion will just go OT.

Plain and simple, pentile is nowhere as good as standard RGB. No matter how you try to twist it.

If you manage to notice the difference between pentile and rgb on a dpi of 440 (440 dots per inch!), you should call the guinness book of records, because it means your sight is above human.
96 dpi is the average 1080p computer monitor / TV
150 dpi is normal top quality print
300 dpi is the limit visible by the human eye
440 dpi is overkill... pentile or not pentile... irrelevant

americasteam said:
Plain and simple, pentile is nowhere as good as standard RGB. No matter how you try to twist it.
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Agreed. It's why I bought a One X over the SGS3. But since, starting with the N2, Samsung's moved away from it what's to be discussed? How bad the SGS3 and Galaxy Nexus were or how bad the SGS4 could have been? When GSMArena does their standardized testing we'll know how good the display is in color reproduction, brightness, and white balance. You can't measure anything on a trade show floor except whether a display looks good or doesn't.

Are people really complaining about pentile at 440 PPI? Are you ****ing kidding me? Drop the crack pipe and wake up.

i want to ask about it's screen if it strong enough,, or as s3 easy to broke :crying::crying:

It is Pentile (RGBG .. Red Green Blue Green) .. take any 2x2 sub-pixel square and you get your pixel .. it is pentile .. just rotated 45° and different shape .. still pentile .. and it is a horrible technology

palestine2020 said:
i want to ask about it's screen if it strong enough,, or as s3 easy to broke :crying::crying:
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ask CORNING

People love to cry over anything before knowing the facts, I mean your eyes have to be like a ****ing microscope to see the difference at this point.
To me though OLED is better than LCD and I can never go back now thanx to something we can actually see with the naked eye and that's the blacks are grey on LCDs, especially at night.

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One of the worst screens I have seen on a high end device...

Finally got to play with an Atrix yesterday. Simply put, I was shocked at how terrible the qHD screen looked.
Banding was visible from arm length, edges are extremely jagged, colors (particularly green on black) look absolutely abysmal.
Personally, I would much rather have a traditional 800x480 panel than a 960x540 pentile panel. In a side by side comparison the screen on my SLCD Incredible is miles ahead. I guess Motorola was more interested in having numbers that looked good on paper than real world performance.
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This WRGB subpixel arrangement goes a long way in explaining the issues I saw... Actually, If I'm looking at this correctly each pixel does NOT have 5 subpixels, but 4. Quadrile anyone?
Ditto! I thought I was going crazy, hearing everyone talk about how good they thought the screen looked....it looks horrible imo....
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Same here
I was horrified how bad the colors were. Just install angry birds and check the colors. It looks all washed out and dull. The same is the case with NFS shift installed.
The text in the browser does look sharp though, i have to admit. But overall pretty disappointing.
Samsung S2 , please give us some hope here in the US, and soon!
Really? The worst screen that I saw was the Nexus S SAMOLED with its unnatural exaggerated colors and the lack of sharpness..
Having owned (for a short bit) an iPhone 4, a Nexus One (for 11 months) and having played around with a Nexus S for a week, I gotta tell you I really like the Atrix screen. I will admit that viewing it from the side blows...but how often do you do that?
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Having owned (for a short bit) an iPhone 4, a Nexus One (for 11 months) and having played around with a Nexus S for a week, I gotta tell you I really like the Atrix screen. I will admit that viewing it from the side blows...but how often do you do that?
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As far as I know I don't see people using cellphones sideways.
While I'll definitely agree that it's far from the best screen ever, I don't think it's nearly bad enough to justify the number of complaints people have about it. Is it because it's the easiest flaw to point out?
Is the side view bad? I can actually see things fairly clear almost to the point of having the screen at an angle that I can't actually see the screen itself. Reading text gets impossible a fair bit before that I guess. If the viewing angle is limited on this phone, then I guess I don't often test the limits of viewing angles on other screens lol.
I don't know about you guys but I like the screen...lol, you guys must have better eyes our higher standards
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The brightness outweighs the lack in accurate color representation imo.
My iPhone 4 does a slightly better job of showing colors, but the Atrix is definitely brighter. I don't have any issues with the screen
thatoneguy247 said:
The brightness outweighs the lack in accurate color representation imo.
My iPhone 4 does a slightly better job of showing colors, but the Atrix is definitely brighter. I don't have any issues with the screen
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I used my phone last night walking the dog and it was almost TOO bright in the dark.
The screen is far from perfect, but text looks fantastic on white. Black text on white is probably the most common usage of a cell ...
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complain complain complain....the screen is great
everyone should refrain from biting on the next screen baiting post...
once again,
the biggest misconception of the atrix's screen is that its washed out. This is NOT TRUE. the screen is extremely neutral in colors. SLCD and SAMOLED all have extremely exaggerated colors and contrasts. Some people like it, some dont...its like arguing which is better..plasma or lcd.....
I'm pretty sure if you do some research almost all video enthusiasts would recommend plasma over LCD. But that's not only because of the colors but also the response rate differences.
SAMOLED has perfect blacks so of course the contrast will be higher (infinite) but the colors can also be tweaked to not be so saturated. So at least you have the option to change it, rather than having an unsaturated display that you can't increase.
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once again,
the biggest misconception of the atrix's screen is that its washed out. This is NOT TRUE. the screen is extremely neutral in colors. SLCD and SAMOLED all have extremely exaggerated colors and contrasts. Some people like it, some dont...its like arguing which is better..plasma or lcd.....
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Add me to the list.....it is UNIMPRESSING @ best!!!!
i like plasma better......lmao
I think a lot of the issues with the display are due to lack of support for the resolution.
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turn the screen up to 75% brightness and tell me its no good i have had all phones and this is up there or the best
i like the screen just fine
I run mine around 70% and it's fantastic. I'll take this "washed out" display over the one on my Captivate any day.

16M Screen... Prove?

Firstly, I dont know does this thread lies in the right section or not, but i hope i'm getting it in the right place.
Back to the title, i think many of us complaining why doesn't Sony include 16M color to the gorgeous 4-inch screen we have. According to what i know, the only way to differentiate screen with or without 16M color is to see the ugly color gradient when viewing a saturated/colorful background or picture. So i made several comparison to some other devices i can get, i found that actually we do achieved 16M on our screen, and i think this is(or maybe not) the reason why X10 has a capped fps.
At this moment, i'm cropping some picture to show you my prove. Please be patient and tell me what you think. =)
Pics are coming!
Edit: Or to be more precise, even if we REALLY dont have the 16M screen, i have to admit that Sony really made a great tweak at the screen. [Dithered?]
Pictures are here:
Specification for all the device i used:
LG Optimus One, aka P500 on stock rom, maximum brightness, representing typical 256k screen
Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10i, maximum brightness
HTC Incredible S on stock rom, maximum brightness, representing typical 16M screen
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This is the close up shot.
Upper 2 is the cropped version from the original wallpaper i use. The tweaked version is purposely adjusted to match what we will see if it were on a LCD Screen. Notice the color gradient on the P500 and the smoothness of color we have is quite near to incredible s.
this picture is purposely saved in PNG format to prevent color lost when converting file format.
Hahahaha what? No I can assure you we don't.
Go use a screen you know is 16m colors then come back...
Dont worry, i do made a comparison. =)
I don't care what you think, im using a 16m now.
I can guarantee you that it isn't..
This kind of misinformation is hilarious
Anyway, can you actually tell me how to differentiate a screen with or without 16M color? i hope that what i know is correct. We only can compare the color gradient is it?
Just post ur comparison shots
i don't think SE will tell us we are not using 16M if we actually is.
though i really don't think there's any obvious different with or without 16M.
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op quickly upload ur prove...only picture will tell
hon kin said:
Anyway, can you actually tell me how to differentiate a screen with or without 16M color? i hope that what i know is correct. We only can compare the color gradient is it?
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I personally find you can see the difference.
There are display comparison tests, there have been some done on this forum even.
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Lol this forum is hilarious...
We do not have 16M colours. Go to /sys/devices/virtual/graphics/fb0/bits_per_pixel to find out for yourself. 24 bpp is 16M colours, we have 16 bpp.
And no, the lack of true colour (24 bpp) is apparent in all aspects of the display, it is just easier to notice when looking at gradients, particularly green.
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And no, the level of bits per pixel does not cause/have anything to do with the FPS cap.
Frosty666 said:
We do not have 16M colours. Go to /sys/devices/virtual/graphics/fb0/bits_per_pixel to find out for yourself. 24 bpp is 16M colours, we have 16 bpp.
And no, the lack of true colour (24 bpp) is apparent in all aspects of the display, it is just easier to notice when looking at gradients, particularly green.
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And no, the level of bits per pixel does not cause/have anything to do with the FPS cap.
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Lol finally some logic...
sahibunlimited said:
J​ust post ur comparison shots
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LOL, both pics are gonna look the same on X10 unless altered
Pictures are up!
Frosty666 said:
We do not have 16M colours. Go to /sys/devices/virtual/graphics/fb0/bits_per_pixel to find out for yourself. 24 bpp is 16M colours, we have 16 bpp.
And no, the lack of true colour (24 bpp) is apparent in all aspects of the display, it is just easier to notice when looking at gradients, particularly green.
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And no, the level of bits per pixel does not cause/have anything to do with the FPS cap.
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Opps, never knew we can see the color of screen like this! Thanks for such informative post!
The reason i mention FPS cap because i saw some theory saying that 16M color will make the CPU overload, if the screen is refreshing at 60FPS, so maybe lower refresh rate can get us 16M color.
I own the incredible s and i can tell you nothing about the x10 display is anywhere close to the Inc s.
Not even in the same ballpark. Not even in the same universe for that matter lol
Yeah, i have to say that the S-LCD on Inc S is really impressive. Colors are vibrant, crispy detail. But on this point i just wanna focus on the color gradient. =)
It's 16bit.
The x10 just has a really good dithering method that works well due to the size of the pixels.
Take away that dithering and the x10's gradient colors will look weak.
hon kin said:
Yeah, i have to say that the S-LCD on Inc S is really impressive. Colors are vibrant, crispy detail. But on this point i just wanna focus on the color gradient. =)
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The pic you chose is not a good one...
There are display comparison pictures try those and you'll really see. The difference
Also, for future reference, use a gradient image for comparisons, preferably black>green>white, as human eyes are more sensitive to discrepancies in green than any other colour.
It's a lot easier that way than a wallpaper.
Frosty666 said:
We do not have 16M colours. Go to /sys/devices/virtual/graphics/fb0/bits_per_pixel to find out for yourself. 24 bpp is 16M colours, we have 16 bpp.
And no, the lack of true colour (24 bpp) is apparent in all aspects of the display, it is just easier to notice when looking at gradients, particularly green.
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And no, the level of bits per pixel does not cause/have anything to do with the FPS cap.
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Um, True Color is 32bit.
Hzu said:
Um, True Color is 32bit.
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Actually, true colour is 24 bpp. 32 bpp is true colour with an extra 8 bits for an alpha channel.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depth
"Many modern desktop systems (Mac OS X, GNOME, KDE, Windows XP/Vista/7, etc.) offer a 32-bit color option (given a suitably modern video card), but in that context, 32-bit color refers to 24-bit TrueColor with 8 bits for an alpha channel. When switching to an 8/16/24-bit color option in those systems, generally transparency/translucency effects are disabled, and the only reduction in color depth is seen when going to 8/16-bit color."

Screen comparison: Samsung Galaxy S III vs the fierce competition

Another comparo of s3 is out guysss but this time its on the display.. .. ..
Just check this out ! !
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Scre...alaxy-S-III-vs-the-fierce-competition_id30435
What?
pikulu said:
Another comparo of s3 is out guysss but this time its on the display.. .. ..
Just check this out ! !
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I think you forgot to add something there...
What is it you wanted us to see?
enigmaamit said:
I think you forgot to add something there...
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something important is missing
Epic!
Can't you see it? He's showing how well the SGS3 displays whites compared to the Xperia S and One X.
BarryH_GEG said:
Can't you see it? He's showing how well the SGS3 displays whites compared to the Xperia S and One X.
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i can see big dots in whites
BarryH_GEG said:
Can't you see it? He's showing how well the SGS3 displays whites compared to the Xperia S and One X.
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Matrix style... there is no spoon!!
loll,i am sory guys in hurry i forgot to add the link
Its some kind of s3 fever
The link has been added.. ..
Here it is
pikulu said:
loll,i am sory guys in hurry i forgot to add the link
Its some kind of s3 fever
The link has been added.. ..
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despite fever you have posted a much required article
Uh oh. The fanbois aren't going to like that.
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Uh oh. The fanbois aren't going to like that.
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time to start yet another war
the article itself is pretty conclusive. RGB always have the better density /.
bala_gamer said:
time to start yet another war
the article itself is pretty conclusive. RGB always have the better density /.
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What's interesting is that the One X comes with panels from two different vendors, Sharp and AUO. The AUO panel is the one that's appeared on all the reviewers test units. It's got far better contrast, more natural colors, and cooler whites. Some of the *****ing about the One X display is from people that have gotten Sharp panels which are noticably warmer. I'm sure Samsung screens all the panels on their reviewer units too so the comparisons are fair.
Here's how the two panels looked side-by-side on the Sensation.
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This image is the best we can get, look at the image below
The 1st comparison clearly shows how good is the RGB matrix, despite the red area showing too much dots in s3 the mobile that is captured in that picture has almost same details.
The 2n comparison shows how good is the real blacks in s3 and infact the text looks much crisper. The hox screen simply couldnt match the blacks of amoled.
Do note that this is not the resolution we will be using for daily usage, the resolution used is far from the regular usage
if anyone missed the below image i posted a few days back(extracted from mobile-review.com) it tells a different story
which one looks sharper? judge by yourself
bala_gamer said:
This image is the best we can get, look at the image below
The 1st comparison clearly shows how good is the RGB matrix, despite the red area showing too much dots in s3 the mobile that is captured in that picture has almost same details.
The 2n comparison shows how good is the real blacks in s3 and infact the text looks much crisper. The hox screen simply couldnt match the blacks of amoled.
Do note that this is not the resolution we will be using for daily usage, the resolution used is far from the regular usage
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Thats why a rgb striped display can easily beat a pentile diplay interms of resolution but interms of contrast,amoleds are THE king
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Here's how the two panels looked side-by-side on the Sensation.
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The warmer ones looks totally different, samsung sure will have similar problems .
I am a bit confused here...According to gsmarena test note was the brightest amoled but here phonearena states that s3 is the brightest
Or this is because of the gorila glass 2 ????
bala_gamer said:
which one looks sharper? judge by yourself
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Which one looks more like the original image? That's what matters most. All the pencil pic shows is that the AMOLED displays are presenting the image differently than an LCD panel. That doesn't mean it's correct.
This video compares LCD2 to SAMOLED with mutiple subjects, at different depths, and in different lighting conditions. And each shot starts out by showing the original. It's a GN their comparing but the discussion is sharpness, not brightness, And with similar PPI the GN and SGS3's ability to display detail should be the same.
This is starting to get silly. I have seen image comparisons where i without doubt prefere the S3 over the One X. With this comparison it is the other way around.

Galaxy Note 2 vs Galaxy Note : Size Comparison

I made a fun video comparing the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and the Galaxy Note 1 in dimensions and size!
p.s.: The Galaxy Note 1 is a NTT DoCoMo branded phone from Japan I borrowed from a friend.
Cheers
which is better...
tolisHD said:
I made a fun video comparing the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and the Galaxy Note 1 in dimensions and size!
p.s.: The Galaxy Note 1 is a NTT DoCoMo branded phone from Japan I borrowed from a friend.
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which is better
Wow, so we get a lower pixel density AND the screen seems to be more narrow than on the Note 1
underlines said:
Wow, so we get a lower pixel density AND the screen seems to be more narrow than on the Note 1
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720P is better for watching HD videos, ALSO you get RGB matrix vs pentile
underlines said:
Wow, so we get a lower pixel density AND the screen seems to be more narrow than on the Note 1
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It's only .09 inches more narrow. Nothing to get excited about.
- Frank
underlines said:
Wow, so we get a lower pixel density AND the screen seems to be more narrow than on the Note 1
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I think its slightly taller if not mistaken.
They made the screen slightly narrow than the 1st note because:
1. they wanted the 16:9 ratio (best viewing for movies)
2. to make it more comfortable to hold in your hand.
@Sforever31 Note 2 has more features and more power!
The perceived pixel density will be higher though, so images will LOOK a lot better. And like someone mentioned, no more jagged pentile lines like I see on my GS3.
thanks
Who said it has RGB instead of pentile? Samsung just says HD Super AMOLED no plus so I'm not sure where you got that from.
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/note2/spec.html?type=find
Hell Guardian said:
720P is better for watching HD videos, ALSO you get RGB matrix vs pentile
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The perceived pixel density will be higher though, so images will LOOK a lot better. And like someone mentioned, no more jagged pentile lines like I see on my GS3.
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Who said it has RGB instead of pentile? Samsung just says HD Super AMOLED no plus so I'm not sure where you got that from.
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/note2/spec.html?type=find
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No one said it is RGB, but it's NOT pentile. Have you even bothered to look at the screen comparisons??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31452312&postcount=9
It's RGB.
It is RGB (every pixel owns his 3 subpixel) but the arrangement of the subpixels is different from the ordinary RGB screens, thus the missing 'Plus' in the name.
Look at this stupid image that I've made with my super awesome MS Paint skills
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In the left you have a normal RGB pixel (ONE X, S 2, Lumia 920 ...) and on the right you have a Note II pixel. The blue one was made bigger because amoled blue subpixels die faster than green and red. How the screen will perform in real life remains to be seen but I bet it will be much better than pentile.
I was a bit disappointed about the screen being longer and not the same width, but reading a bit about it so far I think it will be beneficial to me to upgrade because I mainly use it for movies.
Does it fi in a pocket?
projekt06 said:
Does it fi in a pocket?
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Note
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I know for a fact the note isn't going to be comfortable when riding a bike or going for a run , that's the only problem. And I usually want to have my phone with me at all times. Don't know if I should get the s3 just because it's more portable, the note 2 is definitely the better device though.
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juanzr1 said:
I know for a fact the note isn't going to be comfortable when riding a bike or going for a run , that's the only problem. And I usually want to have my phone with me at all times. Don't know if I should get the s3 just because it's more portable, the note 2 is definitely the better device though.
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Get a wristband?
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It is RGB (every pixel owns his 3 subpixel) but the arrangement of the subpixels is different from the ordinary RGB screens, thus the missing 'Plus' in the name.
Look at this stupid image that I've made with my super awesome MS Paint skills
In the left you have a normal RGB pixel (ONE X, S 2, Lumia 920 ...) and on the right you have a Note II pixel. The blue one was made bigger because amoled blue subpixels die faster than green and red. How the screen will perform in real life remains to be seen but I bet it will be much better than pentile.
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I was initially skeptical about Samsung's choice in going for not only a low resolution screen but also a bigger display area. However, after I learned that they've also decided to ditch PenTile in favour of this new RGB matrix, I breathed a heavy sigh of relief.
I can't WAIT to see how nice this display looks in person!

Pentile screen or not?

Does anyone know if it's pentile or not?
Nope that was only for the Note 2 it uses that diamond type of pixels exactly the same screen as the S5
kuromusha38 said:
Does anyone know if it's pentile or not?
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hacktheplant said:
Nope that was only for the Note 2 it uses that diamond type of pixels exactly the same screen as the S5
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Not quite sure what you're trying to say, are you saying that it was only the Note 2 that used a pentile display?
As far as I know, ALL of the Note phones have a pentile display of one form or another. Samsung have varied the shape/sizes of the pixels, but they're all pentile.
The only flagship that Samsung has made with an RGB striple AMOLED was the Galaxy S2 (I think).
The Note 2 had a pentile matrix but it was RGB. The Note 4 will have the same pentile matrix as the S5.
Lodix said:
The Note 2 had a pentile matrix but it was RGB. The Note 4 will have the same pentile matrix as the S5.
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Thats what i expect it to be.
Has anyone heard anything about the brightness and 'quality' of the screen?
(G3 has a big resolution, but contrast, viewing angles and blacks are meh.)
kwyjibo83 said:
Thats what i expect it to be.
Has anyone heard anything about the brightness and 'quality' of the screen?
(G3 has a big resolution, but contrast, viewing angles and blacks are meh.)
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In the videos it seems to be brighter than the Note 3.
And I had the Galaxy s5 prime with a Quad HD screen and it was fantastic, it had a bit better colors than my Note 3. Indeed in some points it was better than the normal Galaxy S5 which has one of the best screens in mobile market.
What if its pentile.... Would anyone notice it at over 500 ppi? Come on now. The S5 has one I'd the best displays ever in terms of everything and it is pentile.
Sent From my Nokia Lumia 635
Lodix said:
The Note 2 had a pentile matrix but it was RGB. The Note 4 will have the same pentile matrix as the S5.
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RGB is not PenTile!! PenTile means that there are different pixels like red-green and blue-green, so for a white color we need 2 or more of these pixels. RGB allows every color in every pixel, because every pixel are the same and consists of all 3 needed colors (red, green, blue).
SaschaHa said:
RGB is not PenTile!! PenTile means that there are different pixels like red-green and blue-green, so for a white color we need 2 or more of these pixels. RGB allows every color in every pixel, because every pixel are the same and consists of all 3 needed colors (red, green, blue).
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Well it was RGB but it had a extrange structure.
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Lodix said:
Well it was RGB but it had a extrange structure.
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Edit - Ignore me, getting myself confused!
Dan1909 said:
That's pentile, not RGB.
Pentile is an arrangement where each main pixel shares one or more sub-pixels, in this case the blue sub-pixel I believe.
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No. It's an RGB layout called S-Stripe. The only difference is that the subpixels are differently aligned. Each pixel has its own 3 subpixels.
AndreiLux said:
No. It's an RGB layout called S-Stripe. The only difference is that the subpixels are differently aligned. Each pixel has its own 3 subpixels.
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Yep, seems like you're right, my bad!
AndreiLux said:
No. It's an RGB layout called S-Stripe. The only difference is that the subpixels are differently aligned. Each pixel has its own 3 subpixels.
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Thanks for explaining it better
Don't worry about Pentile or not:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Fina...-screen-to-have-super-accurate-colors_id60375
Wow, can't believe the pentile question still exist
I can't wait to see this screen in person.
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bala_gamer said:
Wow, can't believe the pentile question still exist
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:laugh::laugh:
Seriously.. Can't believe that we still get these posts.
So Note II is still the only Note that is not PenTile?
The S2 i had for a long time also had an RGB matrix. Pentile / diamond don't have to be bad. At over 500 ppi really shouldn't matter anymore.
Hope its at least as goof as the S5 screen - brigthness, viewing angles..both was bad on the S3.
The only Note devices without PenTile are the Note 2 and the Note 3 Neo.

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