New to Note 10.1 - Galaxy Note 10.1 General

Hello guys/girls
I just got my Galaxy Note 10.1 today and I wanted to know what are the benefits of rooting this device. I currently have a rooted SGS2 so I know about rooting but I would like to know are there some cool features with root vs stock? Also which rom and themes (I love themes) do you recommend for stabilty and great battery life? I would like to keep all the features like snote, multi window etc.
thanks for your input and help

Multi Window
For me being able to add multi window support for any app, on the fly is reason enough!
That was the reason for me.
Do it and test out the multi window app on the store.
g33kChic said:
Hello guys/girls
I just got my Galaxy Note 10.1 today and I wanted to know what are the benefits of rooting this device. I currently have a rooted SGS2 so I know about rooting but I would like to know are there some cool features with root vs stock? Also which rom and themes (I love themes) do you recommend for stabilty and great battery life? I would like to keep all the features like snote, multi window etc.
thanks for your input and help
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fmf.post said:
For me being able to add multi window support for any app, on the fly is reason enough!
That was the reason for me.
Do it and test out the multi window app on the store.
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Cool. If I may ask are you on rooted stock or are you using a custom rom? If so, which rom are you using?

g33kChic said:
Hello guys/girls
I just got my Galaxy Note 10.1 today and I wanted to know what are the benefits of rooting this device. I currently have a rooted SGS2 so I know about rooting but I would like to know are there some cool features with root vs stock? Also which rom and themes (I love themes) do you recommend for stabilty and great battery life? I would like to keep all the features like snote, multi window etc.
thanks for your input and help
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Here is the biggest reason why you should not root....... Because rooting will void your warranty.
Everyone says just use Triangle Away and reset, well that is all fine but If it needs to go in for repairs because it will not restart or hangs at start screen you will be sorry.
I would play with your note for a month or so before you root because there are many apps that let you modify your tablet without root.
Here are a few that I have used that can make your tablet look very cool and backup data without root.
Sidebar
Carbon
CircleLauncher
One More Clock Widget
Palmary Weather
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If you used before apps with root, you can not afford not to root the new device
It is addiction, it only takes a minute or so to root and you could enjoy all the root apps without limitations forever
With autoroot files, you will not lose even the recovery or ota updates
Having the sensation of complete control of your system deserves the small risk !!!
We go to android instead of Apple because of the control of the system and feeling that we are geeks in technology not only users
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Mohamedselim said:
If you used before apps with root, you can not afford not to root the new device
It is addiction, it only takes a minute or so to root and you could enjoy all the root apps without limitations forever
With autoroot files, you will not lose even the recovery or ota updates
Having the sensation of complete control of your system deserves the small risk !!!
We go to android instead of Apple because of the control of the system and feeling that we are geeks in technology not only users
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Which Rom are you using?

Mohamedselim said:
If you used before apps with root, you can not afford not to root the new device
It is addiction, it only takes a minute or so to root and you could enjoy all the root apps without limitations forever
With autoroot files, you will not lose even the recovery or ota updates
Having the sensation of complete control of your system deserves the small risk !!!
We go to android instead of Apple because of the control of the system and feeling that we are geeks in technology not only users
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For me........ I can not afford the risks that comes with rooting my $500.00 note 10.1.
I purchased my note for its great productivity ability and the s-pen option.
I do agree with you about the power and funtion that you get when you do root an android device, that is why I purchased a used kindle fire for $70 bucks and rooted it. The kindle fire has given me countless hour of entertainment loading many different ROMs, backing up the images, loading scripts and anything else that I could think of. I almost bricked it a few times also, some of my crafty experiments left me without the use of my tablet for hours at times and I came darn close to bricking the device for good a few times but was saved by XDA kindle pages and a micro usb dongle.
Yes, the power of root does become addictive and newbies need to be warned of the potential consequences and risks involved when rooting.
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fmf.post said:
For me being able to add multi window support for any app, on the fly is reason enough!
That was the reason for me.
Do it and test out the multi window app on the store.
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+1 for this. This was what did it for me. Other than that, I was already quite happy w/ the stock rom, so I kept it. I don't use it on this device, but you can also freeze or uninstall bloatware if you have root.

kkretch said:
Here is the biggest reason why you should not root....... Because rooting will void your warranty.
Everyone says just use Triangle Away and reset, well that is all fine but If it needs to go in for repairs because it will not restart or hangs at start screen you will be sorry.
I would play with your note for a month or so before you root because there are many apps that let you modify your tablet without root.
Here are a few that I have used that can make your tablet look very cool and backup data without root.
Sidebar
Carbon
CircleLauncher
One More Clock Widget
Palmary Weather
.
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What if you run triangle away right after flashing a new ROM? That way if it bricks or hangs at the start screen, the flash count triangle will still be 0. Would that work? Is there really no way to remove the triangle through USB and a computer?

jedah said:
+1 for this. This was what did it for me. Other than that, I was already quite happy w/ the stock rom, so I kept it. I don't use it on this device, but you can also freeze or uninstall bloatware if you have root.
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What multi window program are you using?
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Triangle away will remove any counter trip. And if you're worried about rooting and warranties, you can just as easily unroot. Rooting can save you some headaches, since it's much easier to back up apps and such (titanium back-up, for one) and as you mentioned the ability to flash nice themes, such as kalagas.
I haven't flashed a custom rom yet, tho I have flashed Kalagas. Nice look!
Do some reading and enjoy your note, it's a great tablet with lots of potential to personalize it and make it your own. (check out some of the home screens in the Apps and Themes forum)

lazer155 said:
What if you run triangle away right after flashing a new ROM? That way if it bricks or hangs at the start screen, the flash count triangle will still be 0. Would that work? Is there really no way to remove the triangle through USB and a computer?
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As stated in the Triangle Away Description on Google Play.
"Please also note that some devices set the counter to 1 at every boot if you are running a custom kernel or recovery. On these devices, Triangle Away may always display 1 - make sure to check the counter in actual download mode".

It's on the android market...
Here you go!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...EsImNvbS5iamJpbmMubXVsdGl3aW5kb3dtYW5hZ2VyIl0.
killerapl said:
What multi window program are you using?
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This is the procedure I followed.
Really easy, first time I root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
First 3 posts contain all the information.
I'll root the note 8 once I have it, it's worth it.
g33kChic said:
Cool. If I may ask are you on rooted stock or are you using a custom rom? If so, which rom are you using?
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[Q]Worth rooting?

Hi, have had much fun with my rooted HTC Sensation, and I've this great Samasung Galaxy Tab 7.7, but is worth it to root my tab? Waiting for ICS to come for 7.7...
Yes it is because you can install titanium backup to back up all your apps and CWM to install different mods and more importantly back up your entire tab. Since you already have the experience you already know the benefits of it.
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On top of the normal reasons to root your Android device, root apps and what Adinis78 mentioned, the number one reason to do it on the 7.7 is the mod to keep your launcher in memory instead of always having to load icons/widgets when returning home. I almost returned the thing before finding Jade Eyed Wolf's instructions.
I own aa wifi 7.7. I am thinking abt the same thing as wifi only version barely has any custome rom.. what do u guys think?
slice77 said:
On top of the normal reasons to root your Android device, root apps and what Adinis78 mentioned, the number one reason to do it on the 7.7 is the mod to keep your launcher in memory instead of always having to load icons/widgets when returning home. I almost returned the thing before finding Jade Eyed Wolf's instructions.
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Could you provide å link?
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Until Samsung releases an update with a fix, or app devs change the way that apps address the external SD card on the 7.7, rooting and editing the platform file is the only way that any installed apps can write to your external SD card. It's annoying to have to hack the device to get it to work correctly, but there we are.
one to choose?
Had been thinking about the problem with external sd-card How stable are the ROM's at the moment? And which one should i choose?
jawil said:
Could you provide å link?
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Gladly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbkegZdwevA
sirhager said:
Had been thinking about the problem with external sd-card How stable are the ROM's at the moment? And which one should i choose?
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Not to knock that dev working on the tweaked ROMs for the 6800, but it doesn't seem worth the bother. Lots of bugs are being reported.
slice77 said:
On top of the normal reasons to root your Android device, root apps and what Adinis78 mentioned, the number one reason to do it on the 7.7 is the mod to keep your launcher in memory instead of always having to load icons/widgets when returning home. I almost returned the thing before finding Jade Eyed Wolf's instructions.
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can you point me to the right directions on this? thanks!
Never mind.
I think I may root once ICS is out. It will be my first time rooting though.. So I hope I can understand the tutorial perfectly
burhanistan said:
Not to knock that dev working on the tweaked ROMs for the 6800, but it doesn't seem worth the bother. Lots of bugs are being reported.
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What bugs in RC2 may I ask? Just wanna know. Thanks.
Steve
I wouldn't worry about roms right now unless you are a power user since ICS is probably going to come out soon. but here some general reasons for rooting that I know of:
-Keep launcher in memory (so homescreen icons and widgets don't lag upon reload)
-To apply a theme to the notification bar at the bottom
-HoneyBar/HideBar to get true full-screen (my main reason)...This is arguably the most important reason to root since AMOLED screens have a tendency to burn-in. with your clock and controls there ALL the time, it's very possible that prolonged use at high brightness will burn it in. it happened to my first Samsung Vibrant within a couple of months
-Chainfire to get access to tegra games
-Ad Free to get rid of all in-app ads
-Back-up/restore for apps
if you care about any of these, rooting is super easy....if not, then dont worry about it
bdroc said:
I wouldn't worry about roms right now unless you are a power user since ICS is probably going to come out soon. but here some general reasons for rooting that I know of:
-Keep launcher in memory (so homescreen icons and widgets don't lag upon reload)
-To apply a theme to the notification bar at the bottom
-HoneyBar/HideBar to get true full-screen (my main reason)...This is arguably the most important reason to root since AMOLED screens have a tendency to burn-in. with your clock and controls there ALL the time, it's very possible that prolonged use at high brightness will burn it in. it happened to my first Samsung Vibrant within a couple of months
-Chainfire to get access to tegra games
-Ad Free to get rid of all in-app ads
-Back-up/restore for apps
if you care about any of these, rooting is super easy....if not, then dont worry about it
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can ad free get rid of the ads on the web as well?
torakun said:
I think I may root once ICS is out. It will be my first time rooting though.. So I hope I can understand the tutorial perfectly
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Same here... I'll root it after a few weeks after we get the ICS OTA up-date...
Just rooted my Tab 7.7. I hope I don't regret it...
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K999rrl said:
can ad free get rid of the ads on the web as well?
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I don't think so, usually the browser has a built-in ad block algorithm. The ad block generally only blocks Google ads.
As long as you make a note of your official firmware, screen shoot perhaps, you can flash it back using Odin to get rid of root. Download it all now just in case the links stop working and to make sure it's actually available.
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Root or not to root

I'm no computer whiz so what are the advantages of rooting this phone as it seems plenty fast as is.
Well, with rooting, it's pretty much like being the Admin of your computer. So for starters, you have control over many more phone functions, especially when it comes to something like tethering. There are more apps and themes and ROMs available for you to use, which will cut down on battery usage, give you a better looking set of themes, and allow you to overclock not only your processor but also your GPU.
It's definitely something that isn't terribly essential, but it does make the phone more.....yours, so to speak.
Looks like I'm rooting and is there a way to unroot in case you need to send it back to Sprint so restoring to factory settings.
Yea you can flash back to stock and they'll never even know you had it rooted or had a custom rom
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Yup, unrooting is easy. Here's one such app that allows you to temporarily unroot or unroot completely: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en
There's several other apps like this and a lot of guides on how to do it.
3 main reasons why I root all my devices:
1. Add app data backup (mainly games) to my new device
2. Tether
3. Flash custom roms
Root.
As previously stated, more performance, battery gains, and free tethering are only a few of the advantages....
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Curious about the bootloader and S-OFF unlocking possibilities on each carrier... Anyone know any info?
it is necessary
you can be the admin of your phone. you control it , not the phone control you.
Besides all the reasons some folks have mentioned, I also root to use ad-blockers..
So I do not have to put up with ads is some apps.
Hoggles said:
Curious about the bootloader and S-OFF unlocking possibilities on each carrier... Anyone know any info?
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Samsung devices doesn't have "S OFF". It's only htc devices. Bootloader maybe locked, depending on your carrier
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Well I want root asap on mine, going to have to uninstall all those S-lag apps Samsung added. Ones no one really needs and jsut slow the phone down. S heath and S Apps etc
The main reasons I'm going to root ASAP are because I want to enable an ad-blocker, wifi tether, restore some apps and disable some of the bloatware on the AT&T model. I'm going to try and stick with the stock ROM at least for a couple months. I've been using AOKP for a good 6 months on the GS3, it will be a nice change to go back to Touchwiz for a bit. (hopefully)
I will also be rooting mine as soon as I get it, so that I can restore everything from my s3 to it. I won't worry about custom roms for this phone for a while, although I'm sure that thread will explode in a few weeks.
I think I am leaving this one stocks for once. At least for a little while
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root because there will be massive amounts of mods available. i know because i'll be working on quite a few
cheers!
I'm starting to think I'll get my 9500 this week and there won't be root for it. If I can't restore with Ti then it will sit in the box for a bit.
Sarcron said:
Yup, unrooting is easy. Here's one such app that allows you to temporarily unroot or unroot completely: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en
There's several other apps like this and a lot of guides on how to do it.
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Must be rooted in order to use OTA RootKeeper from Play!
This application makes a backup or a protected backup of your device's root.
This device must already be rooted: OTA RootKeeper doesn't have the ability to root devices.
Link to thread from Chainfire about getting i9505 root
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AmesCell said:
I'm starting to think I'll get my 9500 this week and there won't be root for it. If I can't restore with Ti then it will sit in the box for a bit.
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"sit in the box for a bit" ... like 2-3 minutes :laugh:
Mine may as well be shipped prerooted. I'm going to make sure my 'life companion' will really be my life companion lol.
I have decided to root if nothing else so I can tether. I also like to change the boot animation and shutdown animation. Looks like I'll be doing a lot of learning from you XDA guys.

What is the most fun you can have without root?

Friend of mine bought a Note 3, he has no plans to root it though and I can't blame him because unless things have changed the triangle of doom is not removable... Right?
Anyway, can you guys list some must have tweaks for a stock phone? I am so used to having root on my Note 2 that I take it for granted - I mean, I honestly can't imagine not having SU access and all the goodies it brings to the table. Nova Launcher is the obvious place to start, as well as SwipePad (to save hitting the home button), what else?
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kaibosh99 said:
Friend of mine bought a Note 3, he has no plans to root it though and I can't blame him because unless things have changed the triangle of doom is not removable... Right?
Anyway, can you guys list some must have tweaks for a stock phone? I am so used to having root on my Note 2 that I take it for granted - I mean, I honestly can't imagine not having SU access and all the goodies it brings to the table. Nova Launcher is the obvious place to start, as well as SwipePad (to save hitting the home button), what else?
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Foe me, it will always be a firewall. the rest I have no need for, but I am probably in the minority.
BTW, I have to say that the question you ask has a very different connotation down here in Oz!
the most fun is watching all the bloatware sucking the battery out of your N3
Before I rooted mine, the most fun I was able to have was jumping on the XDA forums and reading about all the people who did have root.......
kaibosh99 said:
Friend of mine bought a Note 3, he has no plans to root it though and I can't blame him because unless things have changed the triangle of doom is not removable... Right?
Anyway, can you guys list some must have tweaks for a stock phone? I am so used to having root on my Note 2 that I take it for granted - I mean, I honestly can't imagine not having SU access and all the goodies it brings to the table. Nova Launcher is the obvious place to start, as well as SwipePad (to save hitting the home button), what else?
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Thanks didn't know about SwipePad. It is great for the Note 3. Just discovered Swapps which is great for easy access to recent apps. Using both together now.
The most fun you can have without root is reading about those who have it :/ I don't trust myself not to screw up on the 'undetectable' roots..
I think it's emulating different portable consoles! N64, Gameboy, PSP, DS, etc. Installing launchers, changing icons, homescreen layouts, looking for the best apps in different categories. But hey, that's just me
You would have to ask your girlfriend
37_ said:
the most fun is watching all the bloatware sucking the battery out of your N3
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u can just disable all bloatware...
also im getting great battery live even though im not rooted
no root? can't even imagine how lame that must be... 480dpi by default? wtf is this phone for blind people? (no offense to blind people..)
no firewall? no bloatware removal? no titanium backup?...people actually use android phones without root? why not just buy an iphone then - my world collapses =)
I find it so hard not to flash a kernel and recovery just to keep the warranty intact - thank god we got that root de la vega method or else my warranty would have been voided 10 times already... =)
so even if u root there is no stable rom for Note 3 SM900
so where is the point to root......Kit Kat is ready for Note 3
alleshi said:
so even if u root there is no stable rom for Note 3 SM900
so where is the point to root......Kit Kat is ready for Note 3
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You know you dont need to install the latest firmware just for the sake of it?
On my old Note 1 I kept using CM 4.1.2 over 4.2.2 builds for a long time because I didnt like the new notification panel stuff and waited until aokp modded 4.2.2 to include traditional toggles etc. Plus it was more stable and things that I wanted to run actually worked better.
So all I'm sayin is, if you have root for rom x but there is an update to y, with no known root method yet.. then me personally I'd always chose the rooted rom over the non-rooted - unless there is something huge that youre missing out. And dont worry, root will eventually come to all the roms. (at least if youre willing to trip the knox flag)
But this is just my personal opinion off course - I just cant imagine anymore how it is to have no root for an extended period of time.. (my first phone without all this knox bs cockblocking was rooted by me right away and never lookin back hehe)

Pros and cons of a rooted Note 3

Hello,
What are the prons and cons if i root my Note 3? Please do not answer something like "you can install some stuff and change system settings". Try to be specific.
Thank you.
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If you don't know why to root it, then don't root it.
Bucika said:
If you don't know why to root it, then don't root it.
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That is why i haven't rooted yet. I am trying to get more information and then i will decide. And you haven't offered any info on that.
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ioannis66 said:
That is why i haven't rooted yet. I am trying to get more information and then i will decide. And you haven't offered any info on that.
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There arent really any cons unless you like doing OTA updates (which usually can be added manually later)
My favorite part is being able to do any app in multi window
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pro's of rooting :
bloatware deletion
app and data backups and restores
customization/tweaking of buildprops and setting in the root environment of android
tether hacks
some apps in the playstore require root access
more control over your device
changing boot animations
just because...
those are just a couple of good reasons to root. it just comes down to having more control and customization of your device. if you're not a tweaker then you probably wouldn't benefit from rooting.
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My favorite part is being able to do any app in multi window
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new to me, tell me how or post a link pls
I agree that you should only root if you have a specific reason. Mine is a app called proxydroid, my university's wifi has a proxy that is only set up to work with laptops. I use this app to be able to let any app, not just the browser use the network. If it weren't for this reason I don't see that much gain in rooting at the moment. Still no Cyanogenmod or any AOSP for that matter. Closest in look and feel is X Note Rom with Kit Kat addons and loads of Xposed tweaks... but CM it ain't.
Also warranty in my country, South Africa, is a complete joke... I've rooted every device since my old HTC Wildfire the day I got them. I prefer having a custom recovery so I can fix my own issues than a non-existant warranty for reassurance. If the phone is physically damaged the warranty is void according to my carrier anyway so...
Bottom line: Only root if you have real uses for it, and if warranty is not that important to you.
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weedahoe said:
new to me, tell me how or post a link pls
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Wanam Xposed has this feature. - I have had some issues with it not working 100% but it seems to be half decent.
I root to be able to use my phone for computer tasks - connect to and mount file shares, connect to my home VPN, copy files to and from USB devices, run Linux utilities at the command line, install a full Linux chroot, etc. I also use root to block ads with AdAway, remove bloatware apps, remove knox crap, install a custom recovery, and use that to flash a new ROM. There are a ton of uses for root. Probably the most useful, however, is the ability to change display density. Changing the default dpi from 480 to 320 gives you more screen area and makes the device feel more like a true tablet. It really improves the experience a lot.
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pros of rooting? You will be rooted! (aka full access to system files)
You dedide if you need that or not. (aka you like to mod stuff or just like to use the phone as it is)
CalcProgrammer1 said:
I root to be able to use my phone for computer tasks - connect to and mount file shares, connect to my home VPN, copy files to and from USB devices, run Linux utilities at the command line, install a full Linux chroot, etc.
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You sure that you need root for that?
CalcProgrammer1 said:
I also use root to block ads with AdAway, remove bloatware apps, remove knox crap, install a custom recovery, and use that to flash a new ROM. There are a ton of uses for root. Probably the most useful, however, is the ability to change display density. Changing the default dpi from 480 to 320 gives you more screen area and makes the device feel more like a true tablet. It really improves the experience a lot.
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Yep you need root for those, but how many people actually need that?
Adaway - You could spend a couple of bucks to buy the product so that the developer doesn't rely on ads for income.
Bloatware can be disabled in 4.3 without root.
Custom Recovery - so you trip the knox trigger then
Change DPI - I already have a true tablet, the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition
Seriously you need to do more to convince me. I rooted my Note 2 and my Note 10.1 (2012 Edition). When I think what I achieved with the root, then I'm left with the impression that I wasted my time.
These devices provide so much functionality that root is unnecessary for most things. When I find a killer functionality that really NEEDS root then I'll root it/them with CF Autoroot and f*ck knox.
Until then I'll run stock unrooted.
To use a bridged VPN you need root, to install the openvpn and ssh binaries you need root, and to mount shares system-wide you need root. To use a chroot you need root as well. Not everyone needs those things but I'm just listing my personal root uses. I have a tablet as well but using my Note as a tablet is more convenient since I always have it. The dpi fix is great for that. I don't care about the knox flag either, I bought the phone knowing full well I'd be putting a ROM on it as soon as one is available. If you care about the warranty rooting might not be the best idea since they could use it as an excuse to refuse service.
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At this stage, there arent really any. The cpu is blistering fast. Also is the stock rom very smooth.
More cons the pros @ the moment
U can brick ur note 3, for what ?
Greetings from Morocco
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I'm interested to know what the effect of selinux Enforcing.
One of my main reasons for rooting is using Titanium backup and I read somewhere that this won't work even when rooted. Is that true.
I also like to change my DNS to open dns which also requires root.
newbie (not to rooting/just been with icrap for the past 4-5 years). can someone explain the significance of the knox counter. yes, i can extrapolate that it gets tripped if you root the phone a certain way which tells carrier/samsung phone has been modified via software flashes, but so what? what does it mean to end user if knox is tripped, and how could it adversely affect one?
thanks.
It doesn't affect anything unless you actually use the Knox environment, which is designed for business/enterprise stuff. If you don't use that, it doesn't matter at all to the software. The real concern is that it alerts Samsung/T-Mo that you flashed custom software and they can use it as an excuse to refuse warranty services.
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Will rooting my tmobile samsung galaxy note 3 make the wireless hotspot not work or disappear and is there any other features that I would lose like the Samsung apps ?
drexd said:
newbie (not to rooting/just been with icrap for the past 4-5 years). can someone explain the significance of the knox counter. yes, i can extrapolate that it gets tripped if you root the phone a certain way which tells carrier/samsung phone has been modified via software flashes, but so what? what does it mean to end user if knox is tripped, and how could it adversely affect one?
thanks.
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Knox is just a flash counter that tells the service centre how many times you have flashed your device. But this flash counter is irrelevant anyways because according the FSFE, if our phones did need repairing, they have to prove that rooting or changing system software was the direct cause of the malfunction. That's your statutory right! Unfortunately this only applies in Europe. So if my phone breaks and they cannot prove its my fault then they are obliged under statutory law to fix my device with no cost to me!
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ioannis66 said:
Hello,
What are the prons and cons if i root my Note 3? Please do not answer something like "you can install some stuff and change system settings". Try to be specific.
Thank you.
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It depends on what you want to do with your phone. If you like it the way it is stock than keep stock!!! If you like to play with your phone (not talking games) and like it to look and operate like you want than root. Few possibilities with root:
-change sound
-change battery consumption (through kernel & apps)
-raise performance
And a couple of other stuff. But be aware you can also mess up your device if you're not careful!!!

To Root or Not To Root?

Hi,
I am new here and I have some doubts on wether to root my 3 months old LG G2 d802. Can someone orient me what are the pros and cons, how to root and what are the things that I can do once rooted?
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It depends on what are you trying to achieve with rooting.
Cons:
- you lose warranty
- if you don't know what you're doing with a rooted phone, you can cause more damage than good
- if you install malware and accidentaly grant it superuser (administrative) privileges, you can lose sensitive data or someone can mess up your phone
Pros:
- you can block ads on a system level
- you can remove unnecessary apps (bloatware, preinstalled carrier apps etc)
- you can visually modify your phone or add useful modules with Xposed framework
- you can save battery by hibernating apps you do not need to have in the background with Greenify
- you can flash a custom recovery which will allow you to make nandroid images (exact snapshots of your system which you can restore in case of problems)
- you can backup and restore apps and their data with Titanium Backup
- you can install custom kernels which allow overclock to make your phone's CPU even faster, or install custom ROMs which bring new looks and stuff (Cloudyfa's ROMs look nice) or revert to a pure Android experience with AOSP ROMs (like CyanogenMod)
Bottomline: if you don't need any of these things, you don't need to root your phone.
fernievidal said:
Hi,
I am new here and I have some doubts on wether to root my 3 months old LG G2 d802. Can someone orient me what are the pros and cons, how to root and what are the things that I can do once rooted?
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i always root my new android devices, too many pros in rooting
Im curious about this ROM thingy I thought I'd try to root for customization. But I'm still worried about the warranty. Anyway, I'll think about it. It does have a lot of pros but the cons can't be desregarded. Thanks man.
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fernievidal said:
Im curious about this ROM thingy I thought I'd try to root for customization. But I'm still worried about the warranty. Anyway, I'll think about it. It does have a lot of pros but the cons can't be desregarded. Thanks man.
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You can always go back to stock, remove root, remove custom recovery and re-lock boatloader!
I used to root all my phones but with these new phones I'm finding I don't need too.
The most I need is a God set of replacement launchers and those are everywhere.
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fernievidal said:
Im curious about this ROM thingy I thought I'd try to root for customization. But I'm still worried about the warranty. Anyway, I'll think about it. It does have a lot of pros but the cons can't be desregarded. Thanks man.
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It isn't worth it. There are no quality ROMs for this phone that work as well as the stock ROM. They make it look different and maybe that is cool to show off to your friends, but at the end of the day not a single ROM works as well as stock.
This phone is amazing, but was an absolute failure for the ROM market. Most of them are cobbled together, buggy, lacking features and not really any faster or better.
A ROM should make the phone better, and on many phones they can and do. But on this phone, none of them make it better.
Stick with stock, IMHO, especially if you are worried about your warranty.
If you want to customize how the phone looks and feels, there are a dozen really nice aftermarket launchers that you can install and completely transform how it looks and feels, without jacking anything up or risking a warranty issue...
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kolembo said:
I used to root all my phones but with these new phones I'm finding I don't need too.
The most I need is a God set of replacement launchers and those are everywhere.
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Exactly. You can disable 90% of the bloat without root, right from the App Manager, and not have to worry about it hosing a future OTA.
SquireSCA said:
It isn't worth it. There are no quality ROMs for this phone that work as well as the stock ROM. They make it look different and maybe that is cool to show off to your friends, but at the end of the day not a single ROM works as well as stock.
This phone is amazing, but was an absolute failure for the ROM market. Most of them are cobbled together, buggy, lacking features and not really any faster or better.
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Must be a d802 issue d800 is fine..
khaytsus said:
Must be a d802 issue d800 is fine..
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I don't have that, I am on VZW.
I have tried about every ROM out there. I think that CM dropped the phone, there is no dev work really going on there. They all are buggy, none of them truly work as well as stock, etc...
I like ROMs when they actually make something better. Doing ROMs just for the sake of using a ROM, to me seems silly if they take away features, cause the phone to hang or reboot, don't give a performance improvement, cause volume or BT issues, etc...
When you can debloat a stock unrooted phone in less than 2 minutes, and install a launcher that radically changes how the phone looks and feels and lets you tailor it to your idea of how it should look, while keeping your warranty and not having to worry about not getting OTA's, it just makes sense to keep it stock...
SquireSCA said:
I don't have that, I am on VZW.
I have tried about every ROM out there. I think that CM dropped the phone, there is no dev work really going on there. They all are buggy, none of them truly work as well as stock, etc...
I like ROMs when they actually make something better. Doing ROMs just for the sake of using a ROM, to me seems silly if they take away features, cause the phone to hang or reboot, don't give a performance improvement, cause volume or BT issues, etc...
When you can debloat a stock unrooted phone in less than 2 minutes, and install a launcher that radically changes how the phone looks and feels and lets you tailor it to your idea of how it should look, while keeping your warranty and not having to worry about not getting OTA's, it just makes sense to keep it stock...
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I just bought a Verizon G2 on Swappa, so I did the towelroot thing (can't post links yet but I followed a guide posted on wonderhowto . com on how to root with towelroot).
I am basically fine with stock, just wanted to be able to mod it a little bit. For example, I've already changed the softkeys to my liking.
What I don't understand is the recovery/backup apps that I need to run, and in what order. For example, do I need to run AutoRec and/or TWRP if I am NOT going to install any custom roms? I'm not sure I completely understand this step of the process, or the order.
Basically, I'd like to install some mods, the camera mod, sound mods, ect, and would like a way to "restore" my phone (go back to its current state). Warranty is not an issue for me since I bought the phone used.
fernievidal said:
Hi,
I am new here and I have some doubts on wether to root my 3 months old LG G2 d802. Can someone orient me what are the pros and cons, how to root and what are the things that I can do once rooted?
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There are tons of things that you can do with a rooted phone.
When i first got my G2 5 months ago the first thing i did was root.
Here is a list of what i have now.
Rooted with TowelRoot (One click rooting APP)
Installed custom recovery(TWRP) with AutoRec
Stock Rom (AOSP Theme) found HERE
ROOT NEEDED:
Xposed Framework
G2 Xposed mods:
transparent nav bar and notif panel (no shadows)
4th nav bar icon (recent apps)
removed carrier lable on lock screen
removed some notification icons to clean t up
long press menu button to lock phone
bleed immersive mode
long press volume up button for flashlight (while locked)
OTHER Xposed Mods
Instagram downloader(ads download option to instagram app)
wifi password viewer(show password of saved wifi connections)
extended power menu(allows to reboot in recovery and other neet features)
google play music(will open play music to the specific tab you desire)
Other things
Native Hotspot Hack (free wifi tether)
Screen cast screen recorder
This is all i have for now because i am trying to keep it simple.
There are many other things i did not mention that can be done with a rooted phone
Not to mention all the awesome roms you can install.
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fernievidal said:
Im curious about this ROM thingy I thought I'd try to root for customization. But I'm still worried about the warranty. Anyway, I'll think about it. It does have a lot of pros but the cons can't be desregarded. Thanks man.
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You can always factory reset to show like never been rooted.

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