[Q] No internal memory. - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

Hey.
I just bought HTC HD2 with already installed Android. It's this ROM according to informations i found in Settings > About Phone. It boots normally and run smooth.
I'm facing a few problems but all of them are leading to the one source. The main problem is when I go to the Settings > Storage it shows Internal Storage as follows: the bar is 100% green, Total space shows 0.00B and lower it says Apps (app data & media..) 73.80MB. I think it causes the rest of my problems such as all SMS's are rejected (Text message memory is full. An incoming message was rejected..) or every reboot it resets all the settings. If I cleared all the possible app's data the number under Apps (app data & media..) goes to ~70MB but nothing else changes (the bar is 100% green, and total space shows 0,00B).
This ROM is installed in DataOnEXT option, which I suppose mean I can expand internal memory by making ext4 partition on SD card. I tried it with two cards but it does not work. Here is how it looked after formating. The FAT32 partition is detected without problems, but ext4 not (or I don't understand how it should work?). Anyway it doesn't solve any of my problems.
I tried few other things such as wipes for example (as some suggests in similar problem subjects over few forums) but without results. I'm total beginner with Android system and totally don't know what should I do next. Is it possible to solve those problems without reinstalling Android? I'm a little scared to do it because i have totally no experience in this.
If there are any other informations needed please ask, preferably with a way how to check it. I don't know what else may be important. Also I hope you guys can understand my problem and hold out with such a beginner.

modq said:
Hey.
I just bought HTC HD2 with already installed Android. It's this ROM according to informations i found in Settings > About Phone. It boots normally and run smooth.
I'm facing a few problems but all of them are leading to the one source. The main problem is when I go to the Settings > Storage it shows Internal Storage as follows: the bar is 100% green, Total space shows 0.00B and lower it says Apps (app data & media..) 73.80MB. I think it causes the rest of my problems such as all SMS's are rejected (Text message memory is full. An incoming message was rejected..) or every reboot it resets all the settings. If I cleared all the possible app's data the number under Apps (app data & media..) goes to ~70MB but nothing else changes (the bar is 100% green, and total space shows 0,00B).
This ROM is installed in DataOnEXT option, which I suppose mean I can expand internal memory by making ext4 partition on SD card. I tried it with two cards but it does not work. Here is how it looked after formating. The FAT32 partition is detected without problems, but ext4 not (or I don't understand how it should work?). Anyway it doesn't solve any of my problems.
I tried few other things such as wipes for example (as some suggests in similar problem subjects over few forums) but without results. I'm total beginner with Android system and totally don't know what should I do next. Is it possible to solve those problems without reinstalling Android? I'm a little scared to do it because i have totally no experience in this.
If there are any other informations needed please ask, preferably with a way how to check it. I don't know what else may be important. Also I hope you guys can understand my problem and hold out with such a beginner.
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How did you install android to begin with?
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shanman-2 said:
How did you install android to begin with?
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Sorry didn't see the "already installed!!.
You will need to read up a bit if you want to fix this issue.
Have you tried to boot to recovery?..power on device and press and hold the home button immediately afterwards?
Report back?

shanman-2 said:
Have you tried to boot to recovery?..power on device and press and hold the home button immediately afterwards?
Report back?
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Yes, I booted it to recovery few times in order to make a "wipe" as it was suggested in several threads. It's "CWM-based Recovery v5.0.2.6" if that matters.

modq said:
Yes, I booted it to recovery few times in order to make a "wipe" as it was suggested in several threads. It's "CWM-based Recovery v5.0.2.6" if that matters.
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You mean a data, cache and dalvic cache wipe?
If that didn't work then download the same rom zip and file place it on the root of your sdcard then boot into recovery and install the rom again, (option install zip from sdcard in recovery), doing the full wipe process beforehand.
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If you have a tmous handset then select "Nand" install when asked during installation.
Otherwise select" DataOnExt" option. (with this option you need to verify that you have a ext4 partition on your sd card).
Simplest way I could put it!
If you go to the first page of the rom thread you will get all the information you require to install the rom.
Setting partition size could be an issue if the above don't work!

Hi,
It was happening to me and i suspect (not sure) this is the Problem with EXT4 wipe with in CMW recovery.
>Create Partition using PC>Don't insert into Before you do Wipe Data and Factory Reset>And then insert SD card>Flash ROM.
>Otherwise you can user TWRP recovery where there is no issues for me with the WIPE ALL.
This is the way i come-out from the issue.

Thank you @shanman-2 and @[email protected]. It was easier than I thought. Everything works perfect now. Many thanks.

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Can I remove my secondary partition???

Ok, first off, I'm new to this, I've only had my android for about 1 1/2 months. I've read a million threads and posts to absorb information so I don't have to ask stupid questions like this. However, I've searched and tried several different methods, and none have worked. I apologize in advance because I'm sure the information is already somewhere in this forum, but I can't seem to find the specific information for my phone, Mt3G.
The problem I'm having is that last week I decided to partition my my sdcard so I could see how apps2sd worked. After some trial and error, I got it to work.
1. 64 mb swap
2. 512 mb ext
3 remainder on FAT32
After a couple of days, I started notices lags and also issues such as not being able to upload images to facebook, trouble downloading apps from the market, not being able to receive MMS messages or sending them, etc. Overall, it seems like partitions are causing my phone to lag, run slow and other small glitches, so I would like to remove all the partitions, format the sdcard, and just have one single FAT32 partition, as if it were stock. I no longer want apps2sd.
I've tried 'droid explorer', I've followed the cyanogen tutorial on how to uninstall apps2sd via terminal emulator, I've tried wiping, formatting, everything, nothing works. Every time I reboot my phone, the secondary partition still remains, although it says total space unavailable now, but its still there, and according to droid explorer, the apps are still there. I just want to get rid of everything because as of right now, most of my downloaded app icons don't appear, but when I go to download the apps at the market, they say they are already installed. I dont know, I'm about to just throw my phone at the wall.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. By the way, here is my current setup.
Phone: MT3G
ROM: Cyanogen 4.2.11.1 + Cyanogen recovery 1.4
Instead of Cyanogen's recovery, install Amon_RA's 1.5.2G
It will let you format your SD back to Fat32, or you can repartition it the the three, with just the click of a trackball.
In doing so, you will more than likely have to reflash the rom due to you losing all your apps and whatnot that's also on the ext partition, since you will be deleting it.
Backup all your stuff onto your computer first, as you will lose it all when it wipes the slate clean.
@tazz, hey, thanks for your reply. So let me elaborate, when I originally partitioned my card I had amon_ra on my phone. When I started noticing problems, I went back into recovery to see if there was any way to delete or repartition back to a single FAT32, but I couldn't find anything. I stated to back track and flashed CM recovery back on my phone, wiped, reflashed ROM, etc. Nothing...in fact, it caused even more force closes and still, my apps didn't appear in the app drawer, although according to market place and android explorer, they were installed.
Anyway, I took your advice, reflashed amon_ra recovery back on my phone, but I still do not see an option to partition with a single FAT32. All I'm seeing is the option to repartion the SD card, then it gives me the option to pick swap size, ext size, then the remainder on the fat32. Do I just set the swap and ext to 0? Also, do I wipe at all in this process?
yeah just put it to zero. i was thinking about his 1.2.3.
if you put them to zero, it should work out the same either way.
Hmmm....I must be doing something wrong. Went into recovery, selected 'partition sd', set swap to '0', set ext to '0', remainder to FAT32, flashed ROM, system reboot. Secondary partition still appears when I go into the sd storage under settings. Also, android explorer still showing apps in data folder, and marketplace still shows apps such as astro file manager still installed. I'm lost.
Update: Tazz, I followed your instructions, reflashed ROM, rebooted. Secondary partion still appeared. However, I noticed that the option for 'unmounting sdcard' was available. So, I unmounted and physically removed my sdcard to see if this was causing the problem or if it was something internal. After removing sdcard, I still had my applications showing that they were installed, but not showing in app drawer. I decided to try flashing an older CM ROM, just to see what happens. It worked! After flashing older ROM verision, I reflashed newer version and all my problems were solves.
Anyway, just wanted to say thanks for helping me get rid of my partitions.

[Help Me] Apps on Sd Poofed !

Hi, i am currently using Kyrillos Rom V 7.0 Non OC.
Yesterday,my phone battery drained to the end (not a problem until here).
When i arrived home i turned it on after charging for a while,but them,all my apps were gone. I can still see them at the Aplications Manager,but i cant "move to phone" (the box is hidden).
I got my SD card formated using a swap and a Ext4 partition so i can use Apps2SD+ and it was working fine for like 1 Month.
Also, my Market can't install any app anymore,since it shows "File Package is not Valid" message.
What i've tried :
1 - Setting / Storage / unmount - > mount Sd Card
2 - Recovery Mode -> Mount and Storage -> Mount Ext , Mount Sdcard , rebooted.
Nothing Worked,
I hope someone can help me.
Thanks.
try wiping cache and dalvik cache
RafayelG said:
try wiping cache and dalvik cache
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Will this Wipe all my apps on Sd ?
I dont want to wipe my Sd card data by any means : (
Since i cant backup it using Titaniun Backup because i can't install it from market,i dont want to wipe my SD.
What exactly this "Wipe Cache and Dalvik Cache" does ?
EDIT : Ok, Seems it doesn't destroy any piece of user data.
Wipping it now,and will be back to tell what happened
Didn't worked.
Any other help ?
This same thing happened to one of my very good friends Jinxskore. He then had to wipe data, cache and dalvik. All three. Then it was normal again. Your data will be lost I am afraid.
dhirend_6d said:
This same thing happened to one of my very good friends Jinxskore. He then had to wipe data, cache and dalvik. All three. Then it was normal again. Your data will be lost I am afraid.
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Fack.
Well,i am still looking for a non hardcore solution,hope i find it .
Thanks anyway.
Anyone else ?
I'm starting to lose my faith : (
Try to use Titanium Backup, install it from your pc!
I have the same thing every time I boot up. After my media scanner is finished it just doesn't show my apps. Only sometimes when I wait very long it shows them. So I try to keep my phone on as long as I can. But I can't install apps from the market either. I touch for example 'free' press accept and it just doesn't start downloading anything! But a reboot fixes the install problem most of the time for a while...
Btw what kinda sd card are you using? I have a 16gb class 2.
So I blame my problems to that.
I have an idea
Hey about Contacts and SMS backup use relavant apps. Contacts can be backed up on Sd card and copied to pc, I dont think sms backup needed you can let them go if they are important PM me to tell you a method. I hope you have root explorer. If no download it from a PC file sharing website and simply install it. Go to /-->data-->app Copy all apks of your installed apps to sd.
Now you wont lose your apps. Backup SD. I would recommend to use *2676*3855# and Hard Reset/ Factory Format your phone. Format SD after complete backup and re partition do all again, set up phone enjoy it again.

[REF] CWM - Clockworkmode menu options & Partitions– GENERAL KNOWLEDGE

Hi mates,
When we are flashing a Custom Rom from the CWM, we are normally instructed by the Devs only to do few steps on CWM like “Wipe Data/Factory Data Reset, Wipe Cache etc.. which we simply follow, but most of the people don’t know, including me, what these options and many other options of CWM are really standing for.
When I googled, I could not find a thread which explains about these options in a single thread, so I would like to share with my friends about what I found the Common Options of the CWM here...
Obviously these are commonly applicable for all the devices which are having CWM, but I am always concern about my favorite Galaxy S II.
People who are completely new to Recovery and these options, I suggest them to read this thread first and give a thanks to it's author.
What Is Recovery & Download Mode?
The oder and segregation of the below items in the CWM menu may vary or some of them may be removed in different custom recoveries designed by respective Developer.
CLOCKWORKMODE BASED RECOVERY MENU
1) Reboot Menu :
reboot system now
This one is self-explanatory.
2) Install Menu :
choose zip from (internal/ external) sdcard /
Lets you install any zip file (with any name) from any location on your SD card. The file can be for a ROM, a kernel, an application, a theme or any mod as long as it is in recovery-flashable zip format.
apply /sdcard/update.zip
This one is essentially the same as the ‘apply update from sdcard’ option of the main menu. widely used option for installing a ROM that you have downloaded and copied to your SD card. Entering this option will bring up a screen that will allow you to browse your SD card for the zip file.
apply update from sdcard
This can be used for installation of any official or unofficial update, ROM, kernel, theme etc. that is in a zip format installable from recovery, as long as the file is named update.zip and it has been placed on the root of your SD card (i.e. not in any sub-folder). Selecting this option will bring up a rather annoying confirmation prompt but this has saved us on multiple occasions from a lot of trouble we would have been into due to accidental key presses.
toggle signature verification
Turns the signature verification on and off. When signature verification is on, you will not be able to install any custom ROMs that haven’t been signed by the developers (most custom ROMs aren’t signed). Switching it off skips the signature verification check and proceeds with the installation.
toggle script asserts
Seldom-used option for a vast majority of users. It simply turns script asserts on or off. If you don’t know about these (I don’t), it’s best not to change this option.
3) Wipe Menu
wipe data/factory reset
This option wipes all user data on the device as well as cache. Doing this will leave your phone in the state it was in when you bought it or when any custom ROM was first installed. It will also wipe any sd-ext partition that you might have setup. (see more about sd-ext below under partition)
wipe cache partition
This is a good practice to do this before flashing any ROM. The /cache partition just stores temporary files that are not critical to device operation and can be re-generated easily, this Wipes the cache partition of the device to clear all the data accumulated there over use. This is often used before installing a new ROM, app, kernel or any similar mod via recovery.
Wipe Dalvik Cache
Allows you to wipe the cache for the Dalvik virtual machine. The dalvik cache wipe is quite similar to cache wipe but it stores the post ran java applications. Since Android is JAVA based, it uses the same java virtual machine for compiling. The dalvik cache just stores post-compiled applications in order to speed up the system. Wiping this just forces the system to re-cache those application. It causes no problems but a slight hint of lag on first boot. This is required before most ROM installations and at other occasions too, for fixing some problems.
Wipe Battery Stats
Wipes the saved battery usage statistics and effectively recalibrates the battery. Useful in various scenarios when Android isn’t showing correct battery levels.
4) Nandroid menu
backup and restore Undoubtedly one of the most important features provided by a custom recovery, the backup and restore feature – also known as Nandroid backup – allows you to take a snapshot of your phone’s entire internal memory including all partitions, and save it on the SD card.
Backup
Takes a Nandroid backup, as explained above.
Restore
Lets you restore a previously taken backup. Entering this option presents you with a list of existing backups from the SD card that you can choose from for restoration.
Advanced Restore (new options are available separately to restore from external or internal SDcard in the latest CWM)
This option is similar to the Restore option but once a backup has been selected to be restored, this option allows you to choose what parts of it to restore. You can choose to restore the boot, system, data, cache and sd-ext partitions.
5) Storage menu
mounts and storage
Allows you to perform maintenance tasks on all the internal and external partitions of your android device
mount/unmount /system, /data, /cache, /sdcard, /emmc.
These options let you toggle between mounting or unmounting these respective partitions. Most users don’t need to change these options.
format system, data, cache, sdcard or sd-ext
These let you directly format any of these partitions. Take extreme care with this option as formatting any of these partitions will result in losing all data on them, especially the boot and system partitions. Formatting the system partition will remove your ROM and leave your phone without an operating system while wiping the boot partition may brick your phone unless you restore or flash another one before rebooting your device. See below more explanation about these partitions.
mount USB storage
Lets you enable USB mass storage mode for your SD card right from recovery so that you can connect it to your computer via USB and transfer any files to/from it without having to leave recovery.
6) Advanced
This section contains a few options most users will not require, Here are the options from this section:
Report Error
In case of errors, this feature can be used to save a log of recent ClockworkMod recovery operations on the SD card that you can later report from Android using ROM Manager.
Key Test
Lets you press any of the hardware keys to see if they are properly functioning, and to see their key codes.
Partition SD Card
This option gives you a no-frills way to partition your SD card properly for use with ROMs that support data2ext (a very handy hack for low internal memory devices that enables an /sd-ext partition on the SD card to be used as the internal user data storage i.e. as the /data partition). Once this option is selected, you will be given options to choose the sizes for the /sd-ext partition as well as an optional /swap partition on the SD card, and will then automatically format it for you, leaving the remaining space for normal SD card usage. This option will wipe all data from your SD card so use it with caution!
Fix Permissions
Fixes the file permissions for the internal memory partitions back to default. This is very useful as a fix for several errors and Force-Closes that start appearing after you or an application you installed and provided root access end up messing up the permissions of important files.
PARTITIONS :
The Android uses several partitions to organize files and folders on the device. Each of these partitions has a distinct role in the functionality of the device, but not many Android users know the significance of each partition and its contents. In this guide, we will take you on a tour of Android partitions, what they contain and what can be the possible consequences of modifying their content.
Let’s start with a list of standard internal memory partitions on Android phones and tablets. These are:
• /boot
• /system
• /recovery
• /data
• /cache
• /misc
In addition, there are the SD card partitions.
• /sdcard
• /sd-ext
Note that only /sdcard is found in all Android devices and the rest are present only in select devices. Let’s now take a look at the purpose and contents of each of these partitions.
/boot
This is the partition that enables the phone to boot, as the name suggests. It includes the bootloader and the kernel. Without this partition, the device will simply not be able to boot. Wiping this partition from recovery should only be done if absolutely required and once done, the device must NOT be rebooted before installing a new one, which can be done by installing a ROM that includes a /boot partition.
/system
This partition basically contains the entire operating system, other than the kernel and the bootloader. This includes the Android user interface as well as all the system applications that come pre-installed on the device. Wiping this partition will remove Android from the device without rendering it unbootable, and you will still be able to put the phone into recovery or bootloader mode to install a new ROM.
/recovery
The recovery partition can be considered as an alternative boot partition that lets you boot the device into a recovery console for performing advanced recovery and maintenance operations on it. We have already learnt about this partition and its contents above.
/data
Also called userdata, the data partition contains the user’s data – this is where your contacts, messages, settings and apps that you have installed go. Wiping this partition essentially performs a factory reset on your device, restoring it to the way it was when you first booted it, or the way it was after the last official or custom ROM installation. When you perform a wipe data/factory reset from recovery, it is this partition that you are wiping.
/cache
This is the partition where Android stores frequently accessed data and app components. Wiping the cache doesn’t effect your personal data but simply gets rid of the existing data there, which gets automatically rebuilt as you continue using the device.
/misc
This partition contains miscellaneous system settings in form of on/off switches. These settings may include CID (Carrier or Region ID), USB configuration and certain hardware settings etc. This is an important partition and if it is corrupt or missing, several of the device’s features will will not function normally.
/sdcard
This is not a partition on the internal memory of the device but rather the SD card. In terms of usage, this is your storage space to use as you see fit, to store your media, documents, ROMs etc. on it. Wiping it is perfectly safe as long as you backup all the data you require from it, to your computer first. Though several user-installed apps save their data and settings on the SD card and wiping this partition will make you lose all that data.
On devices with both an internal and an external SD card – devices like the Samsung Galaxy SII – the /sdcard partition is always used to refer to the internal SD card. For the external SD card – if present – an alternative partition is used, which differs from device to device. In case of Samsung Galaxy S series devices, it is /sdcard/External_sd while in many other devices, it is /sdcard2. Unlike /sdcard, no system or app data whatsoever is stored automatically on this external SD card and everything present on it has been added there by the user. You can safely wipe it after backing up any data from it that you need to save.
/sd-ext
This is not a standard Android partition, but has become popular in the custom ROM scene. It is basically an additional partition on your SD card that acts as the /data partition when used with certain ROMs that have special features called APP2SD+ or data2ext enabled. It is especially useful on devices with little internal memory allotted to the /data partition. Thus, users who want to install more programs than the internal memory allows can make this partition and use it with a custom ROM that supports this feature, to get additional storage for installing their apps. Wiping this partition is essentially the same as wiping the /data partition – you lose your contacts, SMS, market apps and settings.
Now whenever we install a ROM or mod that requires we to wipe certain partitions before the installation, we should be in a better position to know what we are losing and what not and thus, we’ll know what to backup and what not.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134290
Yep. Been done before a long time ago. Tho I do admire your initiative in putting the info together
Stifler69 said:
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No Doubt this one should be on the top of this thread,
What a simple and awesome explanation about the Recovery & Download mode, many thanks to pulser_g2
I know, majority of users only need the simple steps and shortcuts, they don’t care what’s happening internally and theoretically, but some are really curious to know…
Many thanks mate....
zaheedahmed said:
No Doubt this one should be on the top of this thread,
What a simple and awesome explanation about the Recovery & Download mode, many thanks to pulser_g2
I know, majority of users only need the simple steps and shortcuts, they don’t care what’s happening internally and theoretically, but some are really curious to know…
Many thanks mate....
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Nah mate you do what you have to do. It is a good thread and provides good information. Nice work. Just wanted to show you Pulsers thread as well though because he has done something similar to yours long time ago..But anyway good work and if you need any help let me know
Thanks, will save later text in PDF and keep it on PC just to have one more tutorial about things
Awesome write up!! Brilliant!
As you are so knowledgeable about CWM, perhaps I can ask you a question?
When I do a backup, it says that no external SD card was found, so it skipped the external?
When I check under mounts, the only option for the external SD card is to UNmount.... This would suggest that the card is mounted, correct?
So how would I go about backing up the external card too?
Thanks!
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Question, if i do nandroid backhp through CWM, i suppose it saves files that i dl such as apps/games, or i need to download later again 600mb+?
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shaggyskunk said:
Awesome write up!! Brilliant!
As you are so knowledgeable about CWM, perhaps I can ask you a question?
When I do a backup, it says that no external SD card was found, so it skipped the external?
When I check under mounts, the only option for the external SD card is to UNmount.... This would suggest that the card is mounted, correct?
So how would I go about backing up the external card too?
Thanks!
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Thank you for your appreciation,
I would like to express once again as I mentioned in the starting of the thread that this is only a humble effort of the undersigne that I searched for such information and combined at one place here....
As far as I know about your problem of SD card storage, this is a compatibility issiue which varries on one custom recovery to another, also one SD card to another. such issues are fixed by developers in their latest versions of recoveries.
I experienced once the same issue which was resolved when I changed my SD card.
And my current (touch) recovery of Redpill v1.3 allows me to Backup and restore from external SD card with all available options flowlessly.
Thanks
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Question, if i do nandroid backhp through CWM, i suppose it saves files that i dl such as apps/games, or i need to download later again 600mb+?
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Between CWM & Titanium, you should not have to download anything.
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X-Plosiv said:
Question, if i do nandroid backhp through CWM, i suppose it saves files that i dl such as apps/games, or i need to download later again 600mb+?
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Of course it backs up all your installed apps and system data along with the ROM, but it do not back up the additional data which is downloaded and stored in User's partition of your SD card by the applications, such data will remain on your SD card untill you format it, available to support your apps when you return to the previous ROM.
awsome eplanation
as above posts say awsome explinationculdnt b clearer now then all
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Of course it backs up all your installed apps and system data along with the ROM, but it do not back up the additional data which is downloaded and stored in User's partition of your SD card by the applications, such data will remain on your SD card untill you format it, available to support your apps when you return to the previous ROM.
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Yes, but when I do format/wipe all, I guess then it deletes all that is on SD card as well, such as game files and music? If so, I'd rather just copy paste it on my PC, then after doing all wipes and formats, just copy back from PC
Zaheed, you are far too humble! Your post was brilliant, informative & timely.
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Yes, but when I do format/wipe all, I guess then it deletes all that is on SD card as well, such as game files and music? If so, I'd rather just copy paste it on my PC, then after doing all wipes and formats, just copy back from PC
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When you do normal wipes (data/ factory reset, cache, dalvik) before installing/restoring ROM, it won't touch any data which is saved in your SD Card normally, but it is more safer if you back such application data to you PC which normally find in a folder "Android/ Data /xxx" in the root of SDcard
Thanks for info.
I have read a lot on this but am still nor clear whether a wipe data/factory reset includes a full cache wipe. Most rom install instructions tell you to do both, but it seems a wipe cache is redundant if you factory reset.
SimboXXX said:
Thanks for info.
I have read a lot on this but am still nor clear whether a wipe data/factory reset includes a full cache wipe. Most rom install instructions tell you to do both, but it seems a wipe cache is redundant if you factory reset.
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Yes, you are right, I also understand the same, but the option for merely wiping cache is kept for using in some odd situations, like when we fingered to the ROM and got some error, then we got a no-wipe version of the existing ROM to reflash, such case we need only to wipe cache…. I have got an error recently on CWM when I reflashed my no-wipe Checkrom v6 without wiping anything, then I wiped only cache, problem solved…..
what ever may be the theory, do as the developers directed for their ROM…..NO RISK
shaggyskunk said:
Zaheed, you are far too humble! Your post was brilliant, informative & timely.
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thanks mate...
Thanks for the thread, you can never know too much. On second thoughts, there's probably no danger of that.
What would be really good if you have the knowledge, is a detailed guide on CWM Edify scripting. I'm sure many people would find that useful, especially me. There doesn't seem to be a lot of good guides or information on the language, at least I can't find them yet. If you have any good links I'd definitely appreciate it as well.
Here's another bit of information, that answered a question I had....
In case anyone else has this question...
Here is the answer from:
http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...ter-no-sd-ext-found-skipping-backup-of-sd-ext
" This means you do not have an ext3/4 partition on your sdcard. This really ins't a big deal, this is like a legacy part of the nandroid backup process. CM doesn't "officially" support the sd-ext partition any more anyhow."
Hope it helps someone else... In the end, the answer is pretty straight forward.
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[Q] Problems with Data2EXT

I've been experiencing the dreaded "Low Internal Memory" problems on my HD2 running a MIUI GB ROM.
I was told this was because the included A2SD, well, sucks. I was advised to use Data2EXT instead. Since I wanted to start with a clean slate anyway, I decided it was time to completely wipe my HD2 and install everything anew. This is what I did:
Wiped the HD2 with Task29 (using the HD2 Toolkit)
Installed ClockworkModRecovery v1.3 150MB (I wasn't sure I actually used the 150MB version when I initially installed CWM Recovery)
Cleared data/cache with CWM Recovery
Reformatted the 1GB sd-ext partition on my SD Card (using MiniTool Partition Wizard)
Installed ROM with CWM Recovery (from zip)
Installed A2SDKiller scripts (from zip)
Rebooted phone into MIUI, but did not install anything.
Rebooted into CWM Recovery and installed the Data2SD Installer.
Rebooted into MIUI again
It seemed everything was fine. If I looked at my memory usage, instead of only 210 MB of total storage I had previously, I now had almost 1GB. I setup my Google account and started to install some apps. Somewhere along the line one of the apps hung the phone so I rebooted it again.
But when it was done rebooting, much to my surprise all installed apps were gone. In fact, the phone was behaving like it was the first time it was started (asking me for my Google credentials again, etc). At first I thought this was perhaps due to the hung app, so I did all the above steps again (including wiping the phone).
Again I installed a few apps, and this time I rebooted the phone to check if all was OK now. It wasn't. Again the phone behaved like it was the first time I booted into the new ROM and all installed apps were gone. I've tried about 5 times now and every single time with the same results.
So what could be wrong here?
just a thought (i havent checked, you can do that) but what type of ext did you create? ext2? ext3? ext4? perhaps data2sd (you called it data2ext in the title, data2sd in the post, , ,which is it? they're probably different) doesnt play nice with whichever one you created?
Hi, and thank you for your answer.
samsamuel said:
just a thought (i havent checked, you can do that) but what type of ext did you create? ext2? ext3? ext4?
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Ext3.
perhaps data2sd (you called it data2ext in the title, data2sd in the post, , ,which is it? they're probably different) doesnt play nice with whichever one you created?
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I'm pretty sure they are the same (since took the installation procedure from this forum post and they call it both Data2Ext and Data2SD).
I will check to see if the filesystem matters. Thanks!
I just checked and ext3 should be fine.
Zippy1970 said:
I just checked and ext3 should be fine.
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Check to see see if there's any script left from old method in system/etc/init.d
This is a complete guess but worth a try
EDIT: this is the script that the A2SD killer removes from system/etc/init.d
delete("/system/etc/init.d/40a2sd");
delete("/system/etc/init.d/03stuff2sd");
delete("/system/etc/init.d/10apps2sd");
delete("/system/etc/init.d/04apps2sd");
delete("/system/etc/init.d/01data2whatever");
delete("/system/etc/init.d/98zipalign");
delete("/system/etc/init.d/02cachedalvikcache");
So make sure that has been removed then try flash the new zip file
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wis1152 said:
Check to see see if there's any script left from old method in system/etc/init.d
So make sure that has been removed then try flash the new zip file
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Yes, all those files have been deleted.
It seems to be working now. I wanted to test if changing the Ext3 partition to Ext2 would make any difference so I fired up MiniTool Partition Wizard again. I wiped the partition and formatted it as Ext2.
Or so I thought.
The partition still said it was Ext3. Then it hit me. I had forgotten that you actually have to "Apply" the changes, which I hadn't done before. So I clicked Apply and it wiped the partition and actually formatted it as Ext2.
I then redid the whole thing (install ROM & A2SDKiller scripts, reboot into ROM, reboot into CWM Recovery and installed Data2SD). And now it seems to be working fine.
Not sure which of the two actions on the Ext partition caused it to start working: the wipe or the change to Ext2.
I spoke too soon. I thought it was working since a reset didn't clear all my installed apps. But if I look at the total storage space, it's back to 216MB total. So it looks like Data2Ext isn't running...
*SIGH*
I'm just about to give up on Data2Ext. First of all, I thought I had figured out what was wrong. For some odd reason, whenever I tried to write to my 16GB microSD card on my computer using an SD adapter, it would crash every now and then. Also, partitioning through MiniTool Partition Wizard often resulted in a "Bad Disk" error. I tried this with 3 different 16GB microSD cards. All experienced the same problems when using an SD card adapter (it wasn't a broken SD adapter because I've tried several).
I then dug up an old external microSD USB card reader I had laying around. Using that, I was able to write to the microSD cards just fine and I didn't experience any problems partitioning either.
Speaking about partitioning, it took me a while to figure out that:
Partitioning through ClockWorkMod Recovery doesn't work properly. The FAT32 partition becomes incredibly slow, and the Ext partition is not recognized by Data2Ext
Ext3/Ext4 partitions don't work with Data2Ext. At least, not on my phone
Ext2 partitions only work if they are set as the primary partition
You must name the partition sd-ext or it will not work
Just a FYI for anyone finding this thread in the future.
Anyway, once I figured that out, I was finally able to get Data2Ext working. Sort of. Let me try to explain.
Previously after I had installed Data2Ext and setup some apps, a reboot of my phone would bring it back to a factory reset state. So all installed apps were gone, just like any settings I had altered. Oddly enough, if I looked at the sd-ext partition I could see the data was still there. It simply wasn't used by the phone. But after I had partitioned the sd-ext partition as Ext2, all was fine. A reboot didn't reset the phone back to factory settings.
So I happily reinstalled all my apps, restored my SMS as well as my WhatsApp backup and thought all was fine now. But I did notice the phone wasn't very stable. Every now and then it would become unresponsive for 10-20 seconds. Sometimes I got an error message that a certain app had become unresponsive and I was offered a choice to either shutdown the app or to wait. And sometimes, the phone would spontaneously reset itself.
Today the phone again became unresponsive. Oddly enough, long-pressing the power button did bring up the shutdown window. So I tapped "Shutdown". Next, the phone hung on "Shutting Down". It didn't come back to live. So I removed the battery lid and pressed the reset button.
After it had rebooted, I was greeted with a factory reset phone again. I was about to throw the phone through the window! But when I did another reboot, all my apps were back again as well as my settings. Except for the settings of my individual widgets. Those had all disappeared for some reason. Also, I got quite a few error messages that some apps had stopped unexpectedly. I rebooted again and again the phone behaved as if it were factory reset. But yet another reboot brought everything back...
I now suspect it has something to do with the phone not being able to mount sd-ext every now and then. Either way, my problems aren't solved yet so any tips are much appreciated.
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*SIGH*
I'm just about to give up on Data2Ext. First of all, I thought I had figured out what was wrong. For some odd reason, whenever I tried to write to my 16GB microSD card on my computer using an SD adapter, it would crash every now and then. Also, partitioning through MiniTool Partition Wizard often resulted in a "Bad Disk" error. I tried this with 3 different 16GB microSD cards. All experienced the same problems when using an SD card adapter (it wasn't a broken SD adapter because I've tried several).
I then dug up an old external microSD USB card reader I had laying around. Using that, I was able to write to the microSD cards just fine and I didn't experience any problems partitioning either.
Speaking about partitioning, it took me a while to figure out that:
Partitioning through ClockWorkMod Recovery doesn't work properly. The FAT32 partition becomes incredibly slow, and the Ext partition is not recognized by Data2Ext
Ext3/Ext4 partitions don't work with Data2Ext. At least, not on my phone
Ext2 partitions only work if they are set as the primary partition
You must name the partition sd-ext or it will not work
Just a FYI for anyone finding this thread in the future.
Anyway, once I figured that out, I was finally able to get Data2Ext working. Sort of. Let me try to explain.
Previously after I had installed Data2Ext and setup some apps, a reboot of my phone would bring it back to a factory reset state. So all installed apps were gone, just like any settings I had altered. Oddly enough, if I looked at the sd-ext partition I could see the data was still there. It simply wasn't used by the phone. But after I had partitioned the sd-ext partition as Ext2, all was fine. A reboot didn't reset the phone back to factory settings.
So I happily reinstalled all my apps, restored my SMS as well as my WhatsApp backup and thought all was fine now. But I did notice the phone wasn't very stable. Every now and then it would become unresponsive for 10-20 seconds. Sometimes I got an error message that a certain app had become unresponsive and I was offered a choice to either shutdown the app or to wait. And sometimes, the phone would spontaneously reset itself.
Today the phone again became unresponsive. Oddly enough, long-pressing the power button did bring up the shutdown window. So I tapped "Shutdown". Next, the phone hung on "Shutting Down". It didn't come back to live. So I removed the battery lid and pressed the reset button.
After it had rebooted, I was greeted with a factory reset phone again. I was about to throw the phone through the window! But when I did another reboot, all my apps were back again as well as my settings. Except for the settings of my individual widgets. Those had all disappeared for some reason. Also, I got quite a few error messages that some apps had stopped unexpectedly. I rebooted again and again the phone behaved as if it were factory reset. But yet another reboot brought everything back...
I now suspect it has something to do with the phone not being able to mount sd-ext every now and then. Either way, my problems aren't solved yet so any tips are much appreciated.
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I have similiar problem before, The ext partition always failed. Now I used Extended TWRP to create the ext partition, it is stable now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2120297
I can't get Data2Ext to work. I'm either getting tons of force close errors, or it's not seeing the sd-ext partition at all. I tried with Ext2/Ext3/Ext4 partitions (Ext3 didn't seem to work at all). With or without a swap partition. Nothing worked.
I also tried Data2ExtV2 and even DataOnExt. The result was always a ton of force close errors and a very unstable phone.
So anyone any ideas? It sucks only having 200MB of internal storage.
Hmmmm... That's odd. I just wiped my phone again (Task29), reinstalled MAGLDR, CWM Recovery (150MB) and my ROM without Data2Ext or anything and I'm getting the same force close errors and it's telling me I don't have enough internal storage to install apps.
So apparently there's something else going on with my phone?
What ROM are you using?
Try increasing system partition size!
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What ROM are you using?
Try increasing system partition size!
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Actually, I found out it was because I used the wrong cache size this last time. So it's not the cause of all the other problems, but most certainly the cause of the problems this last time I flashed the ROM.
Ok, I've given up on Data2Ext. I can't get it to work. No matter what I try it's incredibly unstable and slow - if it works at all.
1. Make a backup of your SDCard.
2. Download EXTRecovery here.
3. Unzip it and place the 4EXTRecovery folder in the root of your SDCard.
4. Start MAGLDR, choose option 10, then 1, then 3 and select the folder (4EXT~), then boot from SD in the MAGLDR main menu.
5. In the 4EXTRecovery go to Advanced -> Partition SD Card -> Remove all partitions and start from scratch.
6. 1st sd-ext partition: 1024MB, skip 2nd sd-ext partition, SWAP partition is OPTIONAL, I recommend 256MB.
7. Press Yes and pick: "EXT4".
8. When it's finished, choose: "Print partitiontable" to check if it's actually there.
9. If it's there, go back to the main menu and press: "Install from SDCard".
10. Locate your ROM and install it.
Goodluck.
EDIT: Oh, I just read you've given up on it.. all this work for nothing, lol.
Ohwell, maybe I'm lucky and someone else stumbles upon this and can use it.
EDIT 2: Use DataOnEXT and have a /system size of about 285MB, 300-350MB if you have Bad Blocks!
EDIT 3: Try it with: "Jellybean 4.1.2" by Tytung, definitely works!

Any android ROM will boootloop or restart after initialization

I tried almost any ROM known to work from user's feedbacks in the XDA forums, but I couldn't get any android ROM to work on my HD2.
I have installed magldr 1.13, installed radio 2.15.50.14 (BTW, my HD2 is NOT t-mobile), installed CWM recovery*, put some android ROMs on the microSD (2GB card) and then installed android ROMs from the Android recovery.
The installation process goes fine, no warnings, no errors. After installation comes trouble, either of the next will happen:
- the phone will go in bootloop forever
- the phone will freeze on the bootscreen (freeze like the animation is still going but after hours nothing happens)
- the phone will go in soft-reboot loop. With this I mean it goes on on the boot animation, almost finishes doing whatever it was doing, and then a black screen and the boot animation will just start over and keep doing so forever.
- android will boot and do the applications installation thing (where it says "Installing apps... 10/30" or so) and when it has finished it will just reboot. On reboot it will do again the applications installation thing, and then reboot once more, and do so forever.
*I tried many recoveries: 3.0.2.4; 4.0.1.5; 5.0.2.6; 5.0.2.7; they all work fine on their own, it's just the android ROMs will go crazy. Tried different partition sizes, including 500MB system and 100MB cache, nothing changes.
I followed guides that I found on this forum, which seem to work just fine for others.
Can you help me with this? Please, my WP7 ROM is working for most things but gives me some huge troubles and lacks many apps that I need...
EDIT
Answers to obvious questions you might ask me:
Are you trying to dual-boot WP and Android? >> NO
Have you wiped before installing? >> YES, tried wiping dalvik as well
Are you using wrong ROMs? >> NO, just ROMs from NAND development section
Have you tried with GB ROMs? >> YES, same thing as with ICS/JB ROMs.
Are you trying to install ROMs with HCT Sense? >> tried one, didn't work. all others are without HTC Sense
A few things come to mind; you might have a too small data partition (i.e. gave too much to /system) or perhaps repartitioning didn't take- it's a little harder to check with magldr than cLK. If you have adb installed (or TWRP) you could boot to recovery and check with adb shell df (or df).
Have you tried with NativeSD? Repartition the sdcard in recovery (give it 1GB ext4), this will wipe the sdcard and install it as NativeSD, this would rule out any problems with the NAND (size or otherwise).
Can you give me some more info about sizing the data partition? From recovery I can only wipe the partition but it gives me no choice on how much space to give it. Also, if it helps with the issue, I tried with many system partition sizes, including the "standard" 150, 250 and 450 MB.
No, I don't have adb installed on my PC. I haven't tried to install as nativeSD yet, mainly because the card is very slow (class 2 if I remember well). I'll try though, maybe it works...
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Can you give me some more info about sizing the data partition? From recovery I can only wipe the partition but it gives me no choice on how much space to give it. Also, if it helps with the issue, I tried with many system partition sizes, including the "standard" 150, 250 and 450 MB.
No, I don't have adb installed on my PC. I haven't tried to install as nativeSD yet, mainly because the card is very slow (class 2 if I remember well). I'll try though, maybe it works...
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If I recall NAND resizing is done when flashing CWM by reading a flash.cfg file, I'm thinking perhaps that the data partition (which houses dalvik) is full leading to the stall. Try installing a ROM as NativeSD (Even if your sd is slow it should at least boot) - that'll check if the issue is with something else (radio, HSPL etc.), you could try booting an SD TWRP and running df in terminal emulator (after trying to boot), to see the partition sizes and how full they are.
If you install adb - no need to install the whole sdk, you should be able to see what's causing the bootloop.
Found the issue after a dozen of trial-and-fail. Yes, the issue was that the data partition was too small (actually, it didn't exist at all).
So here's the deal. the flash.cfg file did not contain anything specific to the "data" partition. I guess it simply can't be managed from flash.cfg or for other reasons it wasn't included as an option. Unfortunately, it seems like all the guides/tutorials I have read (here on XDA, but even elsewhere) simply lack any mention about this. So for any future user having the same issue as me, the solution follows. For guide writers, if you wish you may copy-paste this to your guide. BTW, this is magldr 1.13 specific, I have no idea how cLK works.
After flashing CWM recovery, boot your phone to magldr > AD recovery. From CWM menu choose Advanced > parition sdcard. You will be asked for:
Ext size >> this is the data partition that will be used for your system
Absolute minimum size: 512MB. You'll be able to install most ROMs and boot them properly, but on first app install you might fill the whole partition
Recommended minimum size: 1024MB. You'll be able to install a handful of apps, but it's still pretty small. I have filled it with just 20 apps or so...
WARNING: don't give this partition the full sdcard or you won't have any more space for the "sdcard" partition where all your storage goes (photos, music, settings, and anything).
swap size >> a swap partition can be used to augment (read: improve efficiency, not quantity) your RAM
Any cached processes (background applications) may sit in swap when inactive. A swap partition will NOT increase your RAM to 32GB if you own such microSD card, active processes are still executed in your physical available RAM. Instead it may leave more free RAM available to active processes instead of keeping it filled with inactive applications. Please note that I strongly recommend NOT to create such partition on slow microSD cards (I'd recommend a class 6 microSD minimum). It's perfectly fine to run with no swap partition (choose 0MB size).
There you are. Now, all the ROMs that can be installed with [email protected] and [email protected] (data on sdcard) will use the newly created Ext partition.
I hope this will come useful to more people than just me
p.s. thanks for help HypoTurtle

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