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I bought my s4 3 days ago here in Saudi Arabia. And i noticed that i am getting poor signal strength. I am using my mobile sim to connect to the internet. And before with my s3, whenever im at the office, i can get 4mb-5mb speed. But now i can barely reach 1mb speed. I tried flashing another firmware thinking it can be better but its still the same.
i just want to ask if the signal strength is a software problem which can be solved with a few updates or a custom rom, or is it a hardware problem.
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You talking about wifi signal ?
armedking said:
You talking about wifi signal ?
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No, i dont have problem with the wifi signal. Already tried the wifi and its ok. I am talking about the signal strength of my mobile sim card. Already did a test.
I transfered my mobile sim card to a co-workers s3 and did the speed test and got 4mb speed. Then transfered the sim card again to the s4 and did a speed test again. Cant get above 1mb speed. Did this a couple of times to make sure.
replace the sim or replace the phone? its fairly new still and most people dont have that problem.
Hi Everyone,
I'm usually just a reader on XDA, but I have found a problem that appears not to have been solved and wondered if anyone had any insight.
Problem Summary
When in an area (or network) with only HSPA and UMTS (strong HSPA/UMTS signal, but with no LTE or 2G available), the phone will drop from H+ to 3G erratically, always dropping the data connection. Traditional phone calls are not affected.
Detailed Description
I have a OnePlus Two and have 2 SIM cards. My first SIM Card is with Bell Canada (Virgin), and the second SIM Card is with WIND Mobile Canada.
Neither Bell nor WIND operate a 2G network, so the lowest the service can fall to is UMTS/3G.
Initially, I didn't notice the problem because Bell also operates an LTE network, and there is no problem with dropping the data connections when on LTE.
When I switched to the WIND SIM card (which only operates HSPA and UMTS), I noticed a problem where the phone would initially connect to H+, begin downloading whatever is needed (say, streaming music), but then part way through the download, the connection would switch to 3G, and the data would effectively stop. Within a minute, the service would jump back to H+ and download some more, but this cycle would continue (H+ --> 3G --> H+ --> 3G... ), with no way of knowing 1) how long the H+ connection would last before dropping to 3G (usually less than 30 seconds), and 2) after dropping to 3G, how long before going back to H+. This problem makes the phone almost useless when there is no LTE.
The most obvious troubleshooting I did was move to locations of better signal but I quickly ruled that out, as nothing seems to remove this problem. Other things I tried was to: move locations in the city, reboot phone, hard reset phone, flash most updated version of Oxygen, unlock bootloader, root, try the HSPA Keepalive app, swap SIM1 to SIM2, and many other things.
I originally thought this was a network issue, but I put this WIND SIM in another phone and there was no problem in any way that resembled this problem.
I also ruled out this being a network-specific problem, as I have taken a trip with the Bell SIM to an area where Bell does not have any LTE coverage (only HSPA and UMTS) and the same problem occurs on Bell as with the WIND SIM.
I have found people who had this problem on the OnePlus One tend to recommend using 2G to stabilize the connection, but this is not possible on Bell or WIND. That solution also would not provide adequate data speeds.
Remember this problem only affects data connectivity, as 3G traditional phone calls have no problems.
Question
Does anyone know if there is a way to adjust the conditions when the OnePlus Two will choose to switch from H+ to 3G?
Does anyone have any easier suggestions?
Thank you all in advance, because this rendering this phone almost useless when there is no LTE coverage.
I believe your problem is that phone it's dualsim standby, that means only one modem that alternates signal for both sims, I think normal would be alternating from faster network to slower network on sim without data.
Having to change to g3 between sims theres something stoped in the modem and data connection is also stopped.
You have no problem with voice calls because other sim is automatically turned off and unreachable.
There's nothing you can do if you're forced to only 3g on both sims
By 3g I mean 3g or h+ which to my knowledge are the same
Hope I was helpful and not wrong or more confusing
Sent from my ONE A2005 using Tapatalk
fburgos said:
I believe your problem is that phone it's dualsim standby, that means only one modem that alternates signal for both sims, I think normal would be alternating from faster network to slower network on sim without data.
Having to change to g3 between sims theres something stoped in the modem and data connection is also stopped.
You have no problem with voice calls because other sim is automatically turned off and unreachable.
There's nothing you can do if you're forced to only 3g on both sims
By 3g I mean 3g or h+ which to my knowledge are the same
Hope I was helpful and not wrong or more confusing
Sent from my ONE A2005 using Tapatalk
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Thanks, I will try disabling the second SIM to see if there is a bug with the dual-sim...
What it currently does with the second SIM is it either shows "R" for roaming or just emergency only, but perhaps there is a software issue so I'll see if disabling the second SIM makes a difference.
biomedeng said:
Thanks, I will try disabling the second SIM to see if there is a bug with the dual-sim...
What it currently does with the second SIM is it either shows "R" for roaming or just emergency only, but perhaps there is a software issue so I'll see if disabling the second SIM makes a difference.
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Though strange, this workaround fixes the issue. Thank you to fburgos for the suggestion!
So just in case anyone ever finds this issue creeps up on them, the solution is to DISABLE the SIM you are not using. It's not the most convenient workaround to swap SIMs, but the other SIM will be in Emergency Mode, so it really makes no functional difference.
On the technical side, it does appear that there is actually a bug in Android for a very uncommon network configuration. It will only appear in this exact configuration:
SIM1: Network has HSPA/3G only, no LTE or 2G to move to
SIM2: Network also only has HSPA/3G with no LTE or 2G
The non-data SIM does NOT connect to a roaming network (connects with "Emergency Only") - if it connects to a roaming 2G network, this problem does not happen.
The data SIM connects to HSPA/3G
Both SIMs are active
I'm not sure if this will happen anywhere else in the world other than having a WIND Mobile Canada SIM and Bell or TELUS Canada SIM
If anyone has insight on how to report this to Google, or someone else who can confirm my theory, that would be great!
Try this:
1. You need to make sure you have the correct LTE APN selected in mobile networks and LTE as preferred type.
2. Go to dialer and type in this: *#*#4636#*#*
3. Phone Information
4. Set Preferred Network Type to: LTE/GSM (PRL) - you an play with which one you wanna use but the one I said works for sure. on other roms I have" TD-SCDMA, GSM/WCDMA and LTE"
5. Now click TURN OFF RADIO and wait WAIT few secs. will that button turns to Turn Radio ON
6. Now TURN ON RADIO and wait
7. when u see the triangle for the signal is back, at least black , go down and lick SMSC REFRESH then UPDATE.
8. now just go back to APN settings and go into your LTE APN
9. Change Bearer to LTE
biomedeng said:
Hi Everyone,
I'm usually just a reader on XDA, but I have found a problem that appears not to have been solved and wondered if anyone had any insight.
Problem Summary
When in an area (or network) with only HSPA and UMTS (strong HSPA/UMTS signal, but with no LTE or 2G available), the phone will drop from H+ to 3G erratically, always dropping the data connection. Traditional phone calls are not affected.
Detailed Description
I have a OnePlus Two and have 2 SIM cards. My first SIM Card is with Bell Canada (Virgin), and the second SIM Card is with WIND Mobile Canada.
Neither Bell nor WIND operate a 2G network, so the lowest the service can fall to is UMTS/3G.
Initially, I didn't notice the problem because Bell also operates an LTE network, and there is no problem with dropping the data connections when on LTE.
When I switched to the WIND SIM card (which only operates HSPA and UMTS), I noticed a problem where the phone would initially connect to H+, begin downloading whatever is needed (say, streaming music), but then part way through the download, the connection would switch to 3G, and the data would effectively stop. Within a minute, the service would jump back to H+ and download some more, but this cycle would continue (H+ --> 3G --> H+ --> 3G... ), with no way of knowing 1) how long the H+ connection would last before dropping to 3G (usually less than 30 seconds), and 2) after dropping to 3G, how long before going back to H+. This problem makes the phone almost useless when there is no LTE.
The most obvious troubleshooting I did was move to locations of better signal but I quickly ruled that out, as nothing seems to remove this problem. Other things I tried was to: move locations in the city, reboot phone, hard reset phone, flash most updated version of Oxygen, unlock bootloader, root, try the HSPA Keepalive app, swap SIM1 to SIM2, and many other things.
I originally thought this was a network issue, but I put this WIND SIM in another phone and there was no problem in any way that resembled this problem.
I also ruled out this being a network-specific problem, as I have taken a trip with the Bell SIM to an area where Bell does not have any LTE coverage (only HSPA and UMTS) and the same problem occurs on Bell as with the WIND SIM.
I have found people who had this problem on the OnePlus One tend to recommend using 2G to stabilize the connection, but this is not possible on Bell or WIND. That solution also would not provide adequate data speeds.
Remember this problem only affects data connectivity, as 3G traditional phone calls have no problems.
Question
Does anyone know if there is a way to adjust the conditions when the OnePlus Two will choose to switch from H+ to 3G?
Does anyone have any easier suggestions?
Thank you all in advance, because this rendering this phone almost useless when there is no LTE coverage.
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I have the same problem. Do you already have solved it?
I use only one SIM card so it is not a problem two cards.
really you do not have this problem? if no one knows the solution?
compared with my htc butterfly 2 and another low-end android, one plus 2 running latest Oxygen OS has serious connectivity issues. I compared the signals strength using same sim card in same location (including being connected to the same tower) and One Plus 2 keeps dropping the connection and has really poor signal strength. I have tried the *#*#4636#*#* and tried different network modes, but none of them are helping. Its a real disappointment that the basic feature of this phone is screwed up.
I have tried with CM13 as well. Any ideas if this is a modem version issue?
odeccacccp said:
Try this:
1. You need to make sure you have the correct LTE APN selected in mobile networks and LTE as preferred type.
2. Go to dialer and type in this: *#*#4636#*#*
3. Phone Information
4. Set Preferred Network Type to: LTE/GSM (PRL) - you an play with which one you wanna use but the one I said works for sure. on other roms I have" TD-SCDMA, GSM/WCDMA and LTE"
5. Now click TURN OFF RADIO and wait WAIT few secs. will that button turns to Turn Radio ON
6. Now TURN ON RADIO and wait
7. when u see the triangle for the signal is back, at least black , go down and lick SMSC REFRESH then UPDATE.
8. now just go back to APN settings and go into your LTE APN
9. Change Bearer to LTE
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Did It.. But it seems like it didn't solve my problem..
Hi everyone !
Lately I went to a place were 3G/4G was not reachable and it is there that i noticed that my brand new Moto X play couldn't get any connection in 2G (GSM) mode even if the place was fully covered with 2G/EDGE (GSM)...
In 3G/4G there is no problem only on 2G (GSM).
I tried in the settings to put 2G (GSM) only and I can not get any signal even now that i'm back home ....
I tried a factory reset from the recovery it did not work :crying: Do you have an idea on how to solve that problem ?
I also tried to use the sim card with another phone in 2G (GSM) and there it works fine with maximal signal ....
Thanks ! :laugh:
Hallo,
I did a test and I got the same "problem".
Turned 4G into 3G...no problem.Still connected..
Turned 3G into 2G....no signal.
Turned 4G into 2G..no signal.
You can try to switch networktype in *#*#4636#*#*
No time for me now....I will try it later on the day.
hostel666 said:
You can try to switch networktype in *#*#4636#*#*
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I just tried it and turned the networktype to "GSM only" then i got no signal just like before. If i try to use another type like CDMA/GSM it connects to 3G and works but still the problem with the GSM/2G....
Hi guys. I'm not experiencing this problem on my XT1562. switching between bands is fine and working on my device. What kernels are you guys using?
I'm using the stock kernel, I just flashed the OTA (6.0.1) from the stock recovery
Same Problem, more information
For my Moto Play X I have a very similar problem:
4G works, but 3G and 2G do not. If I'm connected to a 4G network, I see that there is reception and can use all data transfer functions. But when I want to do a call, I get a timeout. When I'm in a place where there is no 4G network available, I see that I don't have signal - but the network is shown in the list of available networks for manual selection.
As I have a dual SIM variant (stock ROM, not a custom modification or "upgrade") my second SIM does work like a charm. I tried now and swapped the SIMs - and it seems that just the SIM1 slot is having those problems. The same SIM also works perfectly in the second SIM slot.
I also tries to reset just the network settings (an option provided by the stock ROM) but this didn't change anything.
Next step I'm currently working on is doing a factory reset - will take a while until backup and restore will enable me to see the real result. I'll keep you up to date....
UPDATE: factory reset didn't change anything - will send phone to repair now. :,-(
Hello, i live in a relatively small town where my service provider has very poor 4G signal. but pretty good 3G signal. With the Axon 7 i have a lot of signal problems that i didnt have with any of my previous phones, where outdoor signal is pretty bad and indoor signal is almost unusable. It also connects almost exclusively to 4G, and in contrast all of my previous phones connected almost exclusively to 3G. Over the last weekend i traveled to a major city where my service provider has very strong 4G signal, and the signal problem was almost non existant. I even had signal in places where other people with the same service provider did not. So my theory is the following, assuming that the hardware (antenna) used for 4G and 3G is the same, it may not be a hardware problem, but a problem with the software having a hard time knowing which band/signal it should connect to. It seems that in my case it prioritizes 4G signal and the cost of a VERY unstable cellphone service. This is also assosiated with the fact that when it connects to 3G (incredibly rare), the phone goes inmediately from 1/2 bars to 4/5 bars. I also changed the SIM configuration to leave LTE out, but either for a visual bug or a software bug, it keeps connecting only to 4G. So could this be the problem that me and a lot of people in low 4G signal zones are having? Is there anyway i can force the phone to connect exclusivly to the 3G signal to test if that is indeed the problem?
Regards!
Nehuen said:
Hello, i live in a relatively small town where my service provider has very poor 4G signal. but pretty good 3G signal. With the Axon 7 i have a lot of signal problems that i didnt have with any of my previous phones, where outdoor signal is pretty bad and indoor signal is almost unusable. It also connects almost exclusively to 4G, and in contrast all of my previous phones connected almost exclusively to 3G. Over the last weekend i traveled to a major city where my service provider has very strong 4G signal, and the signal problem was almost non existant. I even had signal in places where other people with the same service provider did not. So my theory is the following, assuming that the hardware (antenna) used for 4G and 3G is the same, it may not be a hardware problem, but a problem with the software having a hard time knowing which band/signal it should connect to. It seems that in my case it prioritizes 4G signal and the cost of a VERY unstable cellphone service. This is also assosiated with the fact that when it connects to 3G (incredibly rare), the phone goes inmediately from 1/2 bars to 4/5 bars. I also changed the SIM configuration to leave LTE out, but either for a visual bug or a software bug, it keeps connecting only to 4G. So could this be the problem that me and a lot of people in low 4G signal zones are having? Is there anyway i can force the phone to connect exclusivly to the 3G signal to test if that is indeed the problem?
Regards!
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Without knowing which model Axon 7 you are using, where you are using it, and who your provider is, there is little anyone can do to help you. All I can say is that it helped me A LOT to go into settings and turn off
VoLTE.
tabletalker7 said:
Without knowing which model Axon 7 you are using, where you are using it, and who your provider is, there is little anyone can do to help you. All I can say is that it helped me A LOT to go into settings and turn off
VoLTE.
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U model last update, using it from Argentina, and the provider is Claro. I have LTE disabled in SIM confg as i already said and VoLTE turn of as well but the phone keeps connecting to 4G no matter what i do, even if i configure it to only GSM
I don't think its a matter of position or provider (version could be if different software is provided), but a general issue with the phone and band/signal interpretation coupled with the apparent innability to go off 4G
Refards!
Nehuen said:
U model last update, using it from Argentina, and the provider is Claro. I have LTE disabled in SIM confg as i already said and VoLTE turn of as well but the phone keeps connecting to 4G no matter what i do, even if i configure it to only GSM
I don't think its a matter of position or provider (version could be if different software is provided), but a general issue with the phone and band/signal interpretation coupled with the apparent innability to go off 4G
Refards!
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ok when it connects to LTE it says "4G LTE". The 4G that you are getting is probably HSPA or something. And we had someone on here a few months back using Claro in Argentina and they had to seek answers from their Claro
tabletalker7 said:
ok when it connects to LTE it says "4G LTE". The 4G that you are getting is probably HSPA or something. And we had someone on here a few months back using Claro in Argentina and they had to seek answers from their Claro
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If "4G LTE" is 4G and "4G" is HSPA, when only a "G" appears, what band am i connecting too? Its still pretty weird that im having major signal issues in my town, but when i go to a big city my signal is even better than other phones, it seems inconsistent with the whole "bad hardware" theory. I talked to Claro and it seemed like from their end it was a non issue, can you point me to the thread to see if he got it fixed somehow?
Regards!
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If "4G LTE" is 4G and "4G" is HSPA, when only a "G" appears, what band am i connecting too? Its still pretty weird that im having major signal issues in my town, but when i go to a big city my signal is even better than other phones, it seems inconsistent with the whole "bad hardware" theory. I talked to Claro and it seemed like from their end it was a non issue, can you point me to the thread to see if he got it fixed somehow?
Regards!
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/Trolling a bit/
I'm always LMAO when I hear US people talking about that 4G scam (which is H+ for real btw)
G is for 2G
E is for 2G+
3G is 3G
H is 3G+
H+ is 3G++ (an intermediary protocol up to 42MBps)
4G is LTE (up to 150Mbps in the EU most of the time)
4G+ is LTE-A (which is available in most of the EU, SK & JP) - up to 600Mbps, 200MBps in most tests
I've not heard of an app that could modify the way the phone "clings" to 4G LTE, since that might likely be the modem firmware doing it on its own.
RedWave31 said:
/Trolling a bit/
I'm always LMAO when I hear US people talking about that 4G scam (which is H+ for real btw)
G is for 2G
E is for 2G+
3G is 3G
H is 3G+
H+ is 3G++ (an intermediary protocol up to 42MBps)
4G is LTE (up to 150Mbps in the EU most of the time)
4G+ is LTE-A (which is available in most of the EU, SK & JP) - up to 600Mbps, 200MBps in most tests
I've not heard of an app that could modify the way the phone "clings" to 4G LTE, since that might likely be the modem firmware doing it on its own.
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Then this is even weirder, because is G is not 3G, but 2G it means that the phone NEVER connects to the major band that all of my previous phones and Claro users connect to. Is there anyway to force to only connect to 3G?
Regards!
i have the G european model, in my town i have bad lte signal 1/2bar, when with my previously xiaomi mi4c was got 4/5 bars (maximum). In the big town i have got in the most of cases 4/5 bars. I think the "signal problems" are relatives of a lack of somehow software. i told this because i've read with the china model with the last updates an improvement of the signal reception of the phone.
Nehuen said:
Then this is even weirder, because is G is not 3G, but 2G it means that the phone NEVER connects to the major band that all of my previous phones and Claro users connect to. Is there anyway to force to only connect to 3G?
Regards!
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You can however force a specific protocol indeed, but you will lack the ability to autoswitch networks. Just download 4G LTE Switch (here) which is a glorified secret code dialer. Just click on prefered network and change at your convenience (4G LTE only, WCDMA only - H+ - and so on). Remember that if you force 4G LTE in an area in which you have no coverage, you won't have internet, and no 2G/3G fallback (so no texts, no calls)
I don't know if this is the same problem, but my wife has an iPhone 6+ and I have an A2017U on B29 stock root. We both use the same network (Movistar Mexico) and while her iPhone often registers LTE, my A7 often registers 4G or even E in the same place. The A7 is receiving the same bands but appears to be "choosing" or locking into the slower protocols more often.
EDIT: NEVER MIND… an xposed module was messing with my network settings. Fixed it. Now I get LTE right away.
nuserame said:
EDIT: NEVER MIND… an xposed module was messing with my network settings. Fixed it. Now I get LTE right away.
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Which module?
What if flash any Custom OS?Would it give better signal ?
my mi a1 signal strength is very low.drop frequently from 4g network to 3g or even in 3g network have low strength and voice call doesn't have proper quality.i compare a1 with my other phone in the same room and the other phone doesn't have this problem for example if a1 have 10-11 asu signal in 3g network the other phone have 15 16 asu signal strength.so my questions:
1-anybody else have the same problem and if there is a solution for that
2-this kind of problems can be fix by software update or is hardware problem and something related to design and material of the phone and can't be fix by update?
My problem is Same
Same problem in my phone after december update no improvment
mine never have any network 4G or 3G issue.. it's working fine indoor an outdoor
m.i.89 said:
my mi a1 signal strength is very low.drop frequently from 4g network to 3g or even in 3g network have low strength and voice call doesn't have proper quality.i compare a1 with my other phone in the same room and the other phone doesn't have this problem for example if a1 have 10-11 asu signal in 3g network the other phone have 15 16 asu signal strength.so my questions:
1-anybody else have the same problem and if there is a solution for that
2-this kind of problems can be fix by software update or is hardware problem and something related to design and material of the phone and can't be fix by update?
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Try putting the SIM in the second slot.
Worked for me....
I got a network issue too and 2nd sim doesn't stay to 2g only if 1st is selected as data. Consuming most of battery due to this. This happened after the first update. Please check of anyone else too has this :/
yanleites said:
Try putting the SIM in the second slot.
Worked for me....
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i think maybe a little bit better but the problem didn't go away.i compare every network,in 4g and 2g network a1 behind other phones but in 3g network has good signal
does anyone know if this kind of problem can be fix by software update or it's a problem with hardware or design (maybe unibody design blocking signal)of the phone?
prannoytambe said:
I got a network issue too and 2nd sim doesn't stay to 2g only if 1st is selected as data. Consuming most of battery due to this. This happened after the first update. Please check of anyone else too has this :/
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i didn't understand what was the problem exactly but in my phone you can select one of two sim for data and the sim select for data automatically change to 4g/3g and the other sim will go to 2g only. if you have two sim active it's normal to drain battery a little more but i can't complain about the battery i think it's good overall
m.i.89 said:
i didn't understand what was the problem exactly but in my phone you can select one of two sim for data and the sim select for data automatically change to 4g/3g and the other sim will go to 2g only. if you have two sim active it's normal to drain battery a little more but i can't complain about the battery i think it's good overall
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My secondary sim finds 3g or 4g signal even it should stay on 2g only
prannoytambe said:
My secondary sim finds 3g or 4g signal even it should stay on 2g only
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my secondary sim can find 2g or 3g network but no 4g.4g only available to data sim.maybe VoLTE call can be the reason?(my carrier doesn't support VoLTE call)
try this:data sim in 4g ok.the other sim is for call only.dial *#*#4636#*#* then go to phone information set preferred network type to GSM only
m.i.89 said:
my secondary sim can find 2g or 3g network but no 4g.4g only available to data sim.maybe VoLTE call can be the reason?(my carrier doesn't support VoLTE call)
try this:data sim in 4g ok.the other sim is for call only.dial *#*#4636#*#* then go to phone information set preferred network type to GSM only
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This changed the primary sim to 2g and for 5 min secondary sim found 2g and again it was on 3g. I have weak network for 3g 4g at my place, due to phone switching to 3g 4g I get higher battery drain. My old phone kept my secondary sim to 2g only. I think A1 has issue keeping phone to 2g only
prannoytambe said:
This changed the primary sim to 2g and for 5 min secondary sim found 2g and again it was on 3g. I have weak network for 3g 4g at my place, due to phone switching to 3g 4g I get higher battery drain. My old phone kept my secondary sim to 2g only. I think A1 has issue keeping phone to 2g only
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for me working.this 4636 menu will change the sim selected for call and SMS (you can select sim one or two for call and SMS) to 2g and the other sim(data sim) will not show in menu. I select that GSM option and several hours later still on GSM.but after that don't go in cellular network-->network operators and search for network maybe that can change setting to defualt.you can check if you are still in 2g mode in 4636 menu or in setting-->about phone-->Status-->SIM status
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for me working.this 4636 menu will change the sim selected for call and SMS (you can select sim one or two for call and SMS) to 2g and the other sim(data sim) will not show in menu. I select that GSM option and several hours later still on GSM.but after that don't go in cellular network-->network operators and search for network maybe that can change setting to defualt.you can check if you are still in 2g mode in 4636 menu or in setting-->about phone-->Status-->SIM status
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Ok I got it , I don't use secondary sim for anything else then receiving the call. So i didn't make it default anywhere. After making it default to calls I could see the option in 4636 for secondary sim. So this solution doesn't work in my condition, I don't know why the just keep the secondary sim to 2g only . I have reported this couple of time but no changes. Hope they find this issue in Oreo update