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Xperia P-Camera Samples!! Superb quality!! can we import the camera drives?

Hi all,
after so many post regarding our xperia 8mp camera low quality- look it the new xperia p camera samples here:
http://www.ixbt.com/mobile/sony-xperia-p.shtml
another sample:
http://cdn.asia.cnet.com/story_media/62213636/DSC_0031.jpg
http://mobilenet.cz/galerie/sony-xperia-p-82599/clanek-9207
Sony finally fixed the compression, lake of small details, strong sharpening problem
the photos are more like iPhone 4s now -clean and full of detail with no more aggressive post processing
is there any way to import the new camera drivers to our 8mp xperia devices?

Well I guess we would run into some big obstacles.... as much as I know the qualcom drivers are responsible for the bad quality output of the pictures.
Since Xperia P is running on the Nova Thor SoC the device gets better picture quality.
Look into this thread for more information concerning the related libs that need to be changed for better camera quality:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309080

wow, amazing picture quality.

like pro camera

Excellent picture, wish we could get something like this with an update from Sony, or by modding from out great developers.

Damn, is this really a phone camera, looks so neat.

I think we should first know wheather the senser on ARC is the same to the senser on P
if it is we can import it on it by modify some place in the camera.apk
also we can choose the ISO
It sounds really great!

Damn, zoom in 100% on this picture, and it still looks sharp!
http://www.ixbt.com/mobile/images/sony-xperia-p/micro2.jpg

sdk16420 said:
Damn, zoom in 100% on this picture, and it still looks sharp!
http://www.ixbt.com/mobile/images/sony-xperia-p/micro2.jpg
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yes- and real natural sharpness (lens) and not crappy software sharpening like on our phones! and full of details!!
so qualcom is to blame! (crap post-processing!)

wow so much better than arc's camera, I'm 100% sure it's a different sensor
*JELLY*

It's the compression. With good lighting 2011 8MP camera's make good shots too.
Here are some pics I made with my Neo:
http://minus.com/mxCtiKuyk/1g

infairness to Xperia P, picture quality is mere like with the iphone 4s... hmmp...

The Iphone 4S picture quality is still one of the best for smartphones, and the sensor in it is similar (or the same) to the one we have in Xperia Arc.

Wow first of all this forum looks great if a little daunting.
If you'll permit a noob's questions who doesn't know anything about modding Android or any other OS for that matter, (I've searched the forum for similar questions but couldnt find anything):
I'm currently looking at buying a new phone and my top two conflicting priorities are camera and price. So I gather there's something wrong with the Arc's processing that the Xperia P doesn't suffer from?
I've currently got an Xperia Ray coming through the post but have discovered I could get a Xperia P for around about the same price. Are the differences in spec (and camera) worth me returning the Ray?
Or should I not be so Sony loyal and look for other brand mid/upper range phones? I can get the Galaxy SII for a little bit more, but if the camera difference is negligible I'd rather save the money.
Thanks in advance for any advice.

wait
downloading xperia p system dump
182.67mb apox time 40 min will upload camara apk and other apks if require
then if we can go to port ???

This post makes me want to change my arc S to an Xperia P =[

Camara apk xpereia p
HERE U GO
HAVE NOT TRIED BUT STILL UPLOADING CAMARAUI.APK

chauhanjayc said:
HERE U GO
HAVE NOT TRIED BUT STILL UPLOADING CAMARAUI.APK
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Doesn't work for arc S
Force close upon launch

ANY DEVELOPER WANTS ANY FILES FOR PORT LET ME KNOW WILL DO UPLOAD
LETS MAKE BEST OUT
HAVE ALL FILES
IF ANY ONE WANTS TO DOWNLOAD FULL DUMP BELOW IS THE LINK:good:
http://199.91.154.158/um4w7298w9eg/l48nmaujj8u4a6r/Xperia+P+System+folder.7z

http://developer.sonymobile.com/wpo...ds/download/cameralibrariesxperiaphonesicstar
Maybe some of the devs can say if these libraries are helpful, or there is nothing to do with them and image quality ; d.

Looking for Thoughts from Experts

OK so having had the Experia Z for about 3 months I got very used to it's abilities especially the camera for night shots (even none flash) LED flash is ok for up close but anything more than 5-6 feet away and it's useless but having said that the Experia Z 13mp seems to handle none flash night shots much much better than the EZ Ultra 8mp - there seems to be much more noise on the ultra in low light, I was able to take some pretty decent night shots with the EZ
So anyway, here is what I'm looking at -
Buying the camera module from the experia Z and fitting it into the Experia Ultra, they cost about $50 for the module.
Obviously there are some things to consider before this venture
Will it physically fit (perhaps why the EZU has only 8mp camera is it was too thin to fit the 13mp unit)
Will the Software drive the new camera hardware without issue
Will the connector be the same physical orientation (the connectors all have 34 pins)
Is it as simple to remove the Experia Ultra back panel as the Z
Be interested in some opinions about this little venture, I guess the critical factor is - will the Experia Z 13mp module actually physically fit the Experia Z Ultra

Try it out, video log it and post it onto youtube, try adding flash as well lol could turn out well or it could not. But be ready to do things software wise such as write new/customize codes for it.

Fitting a different camera sensor onto a device will require you to port the device driver for the camera to your phone/board's kernel. And that's before getting into the hardware weirdness that will go into connecting it.
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conceptxo said:
Fitting a different camera sensor onto a device will require you to port the device driver for the camera to your phone/board's kernel. And that's before getting into the hardware weirdness that will go into connecting it.
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I wouldn't think there would be much weirdness in connecting it, seeing as how they are both newer (with the Ultra brand new) Sony phones, unless they've changed the connector.
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No raw support lollipop> Sony's nailed there coffin:(

The main feature off lollipop and sony chooses to ignore it.
Let's all start the digging

That is terrible news :<
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Fu**! Stupid sony!
I do not see more reasons to upgrade to lollipop . The RAW function was my main reason to upgrade .

OK the xperiablog.net report says no raw support for 3rd party cameras as yet. Can anyone confirm the same for the inbuilt camera
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mariojuniorjp said:
Fu**! Stupid sony!
I do not see more reasons to upgrade to lollipop . The RAW function was my main reason to upgrade .
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Really, Samsung don't have it, LG don't have it either. Or has that changed?

sony wouldnt implement it in its camera firmware anyway, but i was hoping that at least they would include the support for it for 3rd party camera apps, but acordingly to xperia blog, all features are disabled.
This is a shame really, sony ****ed up big time. Galaxy s6 has RAW option, manual focus, manual everything, and all this in the default camera app. You can go even further and use 3rd party apps that have more features.
we cant even get away from the mediocre camera results from sony now, this is sad.
i expect that they implement some of the advanced camera api features from lollipop on Z4, so soon or later it would be ported to z3 series, but this is just a speculation by me.

Can anyone tell, if soft skin issue has been fixed for front facing camera?

ogyct said:
Can anyone tell, if soft skin issue has been fixed for front facing camera?
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Isn't fixed. Source from the other lollipop thread here

ogyct said:
Can anyone tell, if soft skin issue has been fixed for front facing camera?
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Nope not fixed.
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But can developers implant these camera api's in there roms even if sony haven't?

zetrri said:
But can developers implant these camera api's in there roms even if sony haven't?
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No, we can't because the camera binaries for the Sony Exmor IMX220 camera sensor have to support it and the only phones to use this sensor are the entire Sony Z Series and the Meizu MX4.
Can someone say if it's possible to use another devices camera binaries for the same sensor?
Since our only hope is riding on the Meizu MX4: gsmarena.com/meizu_mx4_and_mx_4_pro_to_get_android_lollipopbased_flyme_os-news-11023.php

criscodecookies said:
No, we can't because the camera binaries for the Sony Exmor IMX220 camera sensor have to support it and the only phones to use this sensor are the entire Sony Z Series and the Meizu MX4.
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I remember reading something about a new HTC phone coming out with the same sensor which could theoretically make that possible. Can anyone confirm?

meh,
because YOU want RAW doesnt't mean other want it, 99% of customers don't care about RAW so don't say stupid things.

Would have been nice to have to play around with and to show off to my iPhone friend . In the end it all depends on your point of view. Compared to smartphone camera a few years ago the Z3c is amazing. I've made some beautiful shots with it. And compared to a "real" camera all smartphones are garbage (except maybe Nokia?).
So for me the camera is perfect. I don't want to make a photography album with my pictures I want to have a quick shooter to capture some memories. And with the auto mode and the dedicated button the Z3c is exactly what I need.

It's frustrating because the camera hardware in the phone isn't being utilized to its full potential. Yes, it's fine for the average user, but for some, and I think many on this forum share this mindset - we try to get the most out of our devices. Not tapping into our camera's full potential is like leaving our device unrooted - it's neutered.

pepeo123 said:
Galaxy s6 has RAW option, manual focus, manual everything, and all this in the default camera app. You can go even further and use 3rd party apps that have more features.
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The main difference between the S6 and the Z3 being that the S6 is running Lollipop out of the box, where the Z3 is running Kit Kat. Implementing the Camera2 API is a lot more work than just porting the legacy firmware on Lollipop. That's why all OEMs chose to port their old firmware and stop here.

ilgreco112 said:
meh,
because YOU want RAW doesnt't mean other want it, 99% of customers don't care about RAW so don't say stupid things.
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Ok mystic meg
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pepeo123 said:
sony wouldnt implement it in its camera firmware anyway, but i was hoping that at least they would include the support for it for 3rd party camera apps, but acordingly to xperia blog, all features are disabled.
This is a shame really, sony ****ed up big time. Galaxy s6 has RAW option, manual focus, manual everything, and all this in the default camera app. You can go even further and use 3rd party apps that have more features.
we cant even get away from the mediocre camera results from sony now, this is sad.
i expect that they implement some of the advanced camera api features from lollipop on Z4, so soon or later it would be ported to z3 series, but this is just a speculation by me.
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S6 does bit have RAW in their official camera app. Nor do they have manual shutter speed etc in their camera app.
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adamk7 said:
I remember reading something about a new HTC phone coming out with the same sensor which could theoretically make that possible. Can anyone confirm?
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HTC use a Toshiba Sensor.
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criscodecookies said:
No, we can't because the camera binaries for the Sony Exmor IMX220 camera sensor have to support it and the only phones to use this sensor are the entire Sony Z Series and the Meizu MX4.
Can someone say if it's possible to use another devices camera binaries for the same sensor?
Since our only hope is riding on the Meizu MX4: gsmarena.com/meizu_mx4_and_mx_4_pro_to_get_android_lollipopbased_flyme_os-news-11023.php
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the funny thing is, I tried snapchat today, and the front camera does not soften the skin.
I guess there is a way but I'm no developer so I cant check or try.

Would it be possible to backport image processing software from Z5 in the future?

Sony says the Z5 camera has been designed in conjunction with Sony’s Alpha α camera engineers [1]. Assuming (hoping) they've improved image processing (that which the Z3 lacks most it seems), would it even be feasible to backport the software to the Z3 line?

I'm assuming it won't be open source so no, I don't think so.
If it was possible, we would already have stock quality camera on AOSP

Is possible?? Yes. Will they do?? Don't think so.

danibus said:
Is possible?? Yes. Will they do?? Don't think so.
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But the question is not if they will do but rather if one of our gifted devs on XDA can do it.
E.g. @xperiaz2 ported here the Xperia Z4 framework & Sony Stock Camera for many other Xperia phones running on CM12.x/AOSP.
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So things are possible, even if it's closed source. And hey, this here is XDA.

Actually the Z3c will probably run the same camera software through an official update. Now for the image processing by itself will not be the same nor will it be backported. The reason is that the sensor is not the same and the image processing is tuned according to the sensor, if it's characteristic (noise, sharpness, colors) are different you will not be able to get a good result.

Camera swap

This may seem kinda stupid but would it be possible for me to replace the imx298 main camera and replace it with a pixel imx 398 or an s7 camera?

A) You could have to make sure it fits in the same space.
B) Makes sure it has the same connections.
C) You'll have to rewrite your phone's software to get info on and off the camera AND how to interpret that data once it is off and apply the appropriate tweaks.
Overall, you'd be better off just buying something with that module in there if it's that important to you.

Why are people being such asses? Lol if you're not going to give a productive answer then shut up.
I found a thread from 2013 which basically says no it's impossible without re-writing the kernel, BUT it was possible with the xperia neo where sony released the same phone with two different camera modules. Although it's unlikely with the v20.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2180366
If there were a way to make this crappy, over-sharpening, oil-painting looking camera, any better I certainly would like to know about it too.

ronattack said:
If there were a way to make this crappy, over-sharpening, oil-painting looking camera, any better I certainly would like to know about it too.
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I had a huge noise reduction issue when I first bought my T-Mobile V20. Full bright shots with trees would have so much noise reduction applied, the trees looked exactly like oil paintings.
I called T-Mobile and got it replaced, and the new phone still does the noise reduction, but it's way better (less than half the amount). You might want to try that if you can. The V20 seems to be a bit inconsistent...

ronattack said:
Why are people being such asses? Lol if you're not going to give a productive answer then shut up.
I found a thread from 2013 which basically says no it's impossible without re-writing the kernel, BUT it was possible with the xperia neo where sony released the same phone with two different camera modules. Although it's unlikely with the v20.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2180366
If there were a way to make this crappy, over-sharpening, oil-painting looking camera, any better I certainly would like to know about it too.
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You may want just to use Snap Camera HDR, or Google cam Mod or Hedge Camera or ProShot with NR set to minimal and 95%jpeg compression. Or you may even try stock camera libraries mod from XDA but root needed