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My HD2 got wet, dried out, turns on, has some issues now.

I had it less than a week. I have NEVER gotten a phone wet in my life (45 years old.) and I had this one for less than a week and my dog rammed into me (Big dog.) while I was standing near the sink, texting, and bloop, it goes into the soapy water. I got it out with moments and popped the battery out.
I must mention that when I pulled it out of the water it was vibrating constantly and the LED's on the back were blinking quickly.
It was soapy water with dirty dish crap in it. I got on line and read immediately. I followed the directions to a T. Soaked it in distilled water for about an hour and then let it dry by the exhaust port on the back of my computer.
48+ hours passed and I attempted to turn it on. Insert the battery, nothing bad happened. Press the power button, after a second or two it vibrated and the screen lit up with the logo and my heart was happy. It booted into Windows and I was very relieved.
It was short lived. There are some issues.
There is obviously moisture trapped under the screen. There are dark spots, light spots, swirls, etc. You can't see it too much in Manila but when the screen turns a solid, lighter color (Like in Task Manager or Opera Favorites for example.) you can see the swirls.
People can hear me clearly when I speak but I can barely, oh so barely, hear them talking to me. The volume in the ear speaker is very muted.
The rear speaker, for music, nav directions, speaker phone, etc. is nothing but crackles. I mean you can hear and deduce what's coming out but it's buzzy and crackly the whole time. Just awful sounding.
The touch screen has some diminished sensitivity, maybe 10% less reactive all over and up to 75% less reactive near the edges.
It's so bad that I'm using some piece of crap back-up flip phone from eons gone by. I pray nobody calls me in public so I don't have to pull this piece of crap out. It's that bad. It's magenta too. (That's the manliest word I can think of for pink.)
In your opinion, do you think my HD2 will improve over time? Another full day has passed, back in front of the heating vent. The screen has changed some. I can't say that it really got better but it has changed. Some of the solid water lines that were there are now muddled. Perhaps a 5% improvement. The speakers show no sign of improving nor has the screen sensitivity, they are the same crap as yesterday.
The speakers are really the deal killer, if I can't hear people then it really isn't a phone.
Everything else on it seems to work fine. GPS, Wifi, data, etc.
Should I give up on it, dump it for cheap, and move on to something else like the Nexus One maybe, or wait until T-Mobile US gets their HD2s? (Is there a release date for the HD2 in USA yet?)
What is your opinion, hopefully based on experience on this?
I lost my job last week (Business closed.) and honestly, I'm more sad about this phone than I am losing my job. I know that's twisted but I loved using this phone. Loved everything about it. I miss it dearly, even though I know it's just a phone.
Please advise. Thank you for reading.

Of course the half a second it was in the soapy water wasn't enough to get all the parts really soaked and the water didn't get a chance to get in all the parts and between the lcd and the touch screen so you decided to put it in water again for about an hour just to make sure.
I'd hate to see you rescue a drowning person.
Anyway I'm sorry for your loss.. maybe you can get a friend's insurance cover it.. (figuring your dog has none). Also dry it some more..

bel_z_bub said:
Of course the half a second it was in the soapy water wasn't enough to get all the parts really soaked and the water didn't get a chance to get in all the parts and between the lcd and the touch screen so you decided to put it in water again for about an hour just to make sure.
I'd hate to see you rescue a drowning person.
Anyway, I'm sorry for your loss.. maybe you can get a friend to cover it on his insurance (figuring your dog has none)
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Well it was longer than a half second. It slipped under some dishes and I fumbled awkwardly a little bit trying to get it. I would say total submerge time was probably 6-7 seconds. It looked very wet to me. When I popped the battery there was definitely soapy, dirty dishwater coming coming out of the insides. Maybe I did more damage by soaking it in distilled water but it was overwhelmingly recommended on the internet when I searched for wet phone.
Edit: I'm in the US and this phone was not released here. Is there a way to have insurance on a phone not purchased through typical channels?
Thanks for your thoughts.

Bit of a long shot, but have you tried recalibrating the touch screen? Don't think it'll make a huge difference but... never know.
Regarding the speakers, you are probably SOL. I think you'd be surprised what you can sell a busted phone for on ebay.
Re: Insurance, did you purchase it with an AMEX or a 'premium' Visa/Mastercard? You automatically get some coverage.
This actually makes me very nervous because it reminds me that personal digital (the aussie dealer for the T9193) didn't accept AMEX, so I used my normal Visa... sigh. Off to buy a warranty.

mazzarin said:
Bit of a long shot, but have you tried recalibrating the touch screen? Don't think it'll make a huge difference but... never know.
Regarding the speakers, you are probably SOL. I think you'd be surprised what you can sell a busted phone for on ebay.
Re: Insurance, did you purchase it with an AMEX or a 'premium' Visa/Mastercard? You automatically get some coverage.
This actually makes me very nervous because it reminds me that personal digital (the aussie dealer for the T9193) didn't accept AMEX, so I used my normal Visa... sigh. Off to buy a warranty.
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That's a good idea, I'll give that recalibration a shot.
Are the speakers made of paper? Did they get wet and become permanently damaged? I've since read dozens and dozens of stories on the net about wet cell phones and I've heard nobody mention anything about permanent damage to the speakers. Does the HD2 have some kind of unique sound system which might make it more susceptible to water damage?
No on credit card, purchased with cash on Craig's List.
Thank you for your help.

Hmm, maybe it's in my head but recalibrating it does seem to make the touch reaction a little better. Seems to run a little smoother.
Honestly, if I can get the dang sound to work half way decently I will be able to live with it for a while. I blew some compressed air (Not high pressure but a decent blast.) into the grills but no difference on either. I can't imagine what's in there, other than a torn speaker, which could make the cones not move efficiently. Maybe some kind of corrosion in the magnetic motor behind the cone possibly.

balane said:
Hmm, maybe it's in my head but recalibrating it does seem to make the touch reaction a little better. Seems to run a little smoother.
Honestly, if I can get the dang sound to work half way decently I will be able to live with it for a while. I blew some compressed air (Not high pressure but a decent blast.) into the grills but no difference on either. I can't imagine what's in there, other than a torn speaker, which could make the cones not move efficiently. Maybe some kind of corrosion in the magnetic motor behind the cone possibly.
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remember when you search for solutions online to check the date when it was posted.. that distilled water trick maybe worked for nokia 3310's.
Also be carefull with air when it's wet.. if it is paper, I don't know.. but imagin what happens to it if it is and it's still wet.... I'd carefully use a hair dryer... and leave it dry for a week, not 48 hours..
I've seen a Dutch insurance company that insures your phone online without questions.. you just pay a fee for stepping in (€25). There must be something like that in the states. I don't know if you have home insurance, but some companies nowadays also cover mobile phones and laptops, even when your on the move.

bel_z_bub said:
remember when you search for solutions online to check the date when it was posted.. that distilled water trick maybe worked for nokia 3310's.
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That's a very good point and one I didn't consider. A couple of the stories I read were about touch screen phones so I assumed it might be applicable.
I don't know if you have home insurance, but some companies nowadays also cover mobile phones and laptops, even when your on the move.
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I do have home owner's and that's an excellent idea. I will call and pick their brains first thing in the morning.

You may want to query one of the parts replacement sites to see if they can get you a speaker. Something like truesupplier.com or cnn.cn (Just as a reference, I'm not vouching for the legitimacy of these sites.)

balane said:
That's a very good point and one I didn't consider. A couple of the stories I read were about touch screen phones so I assumed it might be applicable.
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the non capacitive touch screens are indestructable compared to the HD2's.. anyway.. I would have tried without first..
I know my comment didn't help much after the damage was done but it just seemed like the last thing I would do.. that's all. what's done is done. Let's just see if you're insured..!

I've had my fair share of wets phones and I don't think 48 hours is long enough for it to dry out completely.
Cover the phone in a cloth and sit it on top of your television for a week.
Don't forget, you let the phone sit in distilled water for an hour, that's plenty of time for water to soak deep down into the nooks and crannys.

elkyelky said:
I've had my fair share of wets phones and I don't think 48 hours is long enough for it to dry out completely.
Cover the phone in a cloth and sit it on top of your television for a week.
Don't forget, you let the phone sit in distilled water for an hour, that's plenty of time for water to soak deep down into the nooks and crannys.
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That's pretty much what I'm doing now. Only difference is that it's sitting behind the exhaust vent on my computer which seems to be a nice temperature for drying without being too hot. My TV is a plasma and has no flat surface on top.

balane said:
That's a very good point and one I didn't consider. A couple of the stories I read were about touch screen phones so I assumed it might be applicable.
I do have home owner's and that's an excellent idea. I will call and pick their brains first thing in the morning.
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HARD RESET <<<< & don't use your phone with battery cover for few days so water evaporate

at this point i would be wondering if soaking it in ethanol / alchohol would do it some good. my reasoning:
-Alchohol / ethanol / similar is a water dispersant and evaporates very quickly
- the liquid is much thinner than water so will get into every nook and cranny
- its wort a go since it seems like its a bit buggered anyway

From what I've read the 99% denatured alcohol rescue is split between two camps, both far on one side of the option or the other.
I guess getting it under the screen might help but I can't see what it could do for the speakers.
If I do this, and I'm very hesitant to do it, it will be a total last ditch effort when I've given up all other hope.
I think some long term drying is in order, and maybe a couple of fingers crossed.

g.lewarne said:
at this point i would be wondering if soaking it in ethanol / alchohol would do it some good. my reasoning:
-Alchohol / ethanol / similar is a water dispersant and evaporates very quickly
- the liquid is much thinner than water so will get into every nook and cranny
- its wort a go since it seems like its a bit buggered anyway
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he is better using >>>> the spray for cleaning microcircuits, I have try it in the past and it works very well.
Take out the btery and spry it n all parts. It will dry by it self in few minutes time

give it a try

SOLRAC13 said:
give it a try
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Do you happen to have a product name you can recommend?

cover it with newspaper, then go get uncook rice, cover the phone & newspaper with rice, leave it for a week for completely dry.
Or have a lot of dry silicagel, you can use it as well. If what you have is those type usually found in dry food, make sure it dry otherwise it won't observe water. If it brand new like those found in glossary store, then just put phone in big zip lock bag with the silicagel (or something where air cannot go in or out).
Just remember, don't heat it (like hair dryer, hot air, etc) as that will speed up the oxidize and have rust on small parts in your phone.

balane said:
Do you happen to have a product name you can recommend?
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sorry no , just go to a repair of circuit shop and i am sure they will tel you the name.
or try this >>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...ed=0CAYQBSgA&q=circuit+cleaning+spray&spell=1

Goodbye Z3

Well my first Z3 is due to by exchanged on Thursday. After having a little trip to a puddle i was quite happy to see the phone spotless and working fine. Two hours later on my desk at work i noticed the screen starting to flicker, this gradually got worse to the point where i just have a blue screen.
Waterproof my arse!

did you
Did you have the ports open? My Z3 has been going into the steam shower and used in the rain for the last 2 days with no problems as of yet.

Trip to the puddle... As in you dropping it into a puddle?

Make sure it hasn't disabled water proof mode Jokes aside - Sony offers replacement for any customer who had kept his or her ports (mobile -- don't get cheeky!) closed.

dc416 said:
Did you have the ports open? My Z3 has been going into the steam shower and used in the rain for the last 2 days with no problems as of yet.
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100% the ports were closed bar some imperfections in the build quality it was sealed in a tpu case.
I was actually showing the "waterproof" feature to my boss so gently placed the phone in a puddle.
My network is replacing with surprisingly no arguments.

I hope this is a rare event, and not some design flaw. The orginal Xperia Z feels more waterproof to me, especially those "flaps" or whatever you call them.
Or maybe its not waterproof anymore when you unlock the bootloader

This is a rare occurrence. But in your first post you said you were pleased to see your phone "spotless and working fine" which would suggest you dropped it? Spotless as in damage? Then you said you "gently placed it in a puddle"?
Have to say, and I hate to say it, that this was a drop. Or very very bad luck.
Take it back to carrier, or get it replaced.

The waterproofing is as much a part of this phone as being able to make calls. If that is faulty then it's manufacturing fault so is fully covered by warranty anyway.

3Shirts said:
The waterproofing is as much a part of this phone as being able to make calls. If that is faulty then it's manufacturing fault so is fully covered by warranty anyway.
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Actually, water damage is not covered by Sony. My guess is OP didn't mention he put his phone in the water and his network assumed it's a manufacturer flaw.

Ascertion said:
Actually, water damage is not covered by Sony. My guess is OP didn't mention he put his phone in the water and his network assumed it's a manufacturer flaw.
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What do you mean by that? The phone is rated to go underwater, they even post pictures of the phone underwater in their website, but yet it is not covered by Sony? Where did you get this from?
Cheers.

GoyoNeuff said:
What do you mean by that? The phone is rated to go underwater, they even post pictures of the phone underwater in their website, but yet it is not covered by Sony? Where did you get this from?
Cheers.
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He's wrong. I just spoke to Sony and this is an unedited excerpt of the chat:
Tim Lake: I would like to enquire as to the warranty position on an Xperia Z3 which suffers water damage despite being 'waterproof'.
Tim Lake: Assuming all the port flaps were correctly sealed
Rachel: The Z3 handset should be waterproof yes, ensuring all ports are firmly closed. If water has gotten into the handset, I do apologise about that, it will need to come into our repair centre, so we can examine it to see if it has a manufacturing fault Tim
Tim Lake: So it will be covered as long as the problem is a manufactuing fault?
Rachel: If the handset has a manufacturing fault which has caused the issue, yes it will be covered under warranty
So there you go.

3Shirts said:
He's wrong. I just spoke to Sony and this is an unedited excerpt of the chat:
Tim Lake: I would like to enquire as to the warranty position on an Xperia Z3 which suffers water damage despite being 'waterproof'.
Tim Lake: Assuming all the port flaps were correctly sealed
Rachel: The Z3 handset should be waterproof yes, ensuring all ports are firmly closed. If water has gotten into the handset, I do apologise about that, it will need to come into our repair centre, so we can examine it to see if it has a manufacturing fault Tim
Tim Lake: So it will be covered as long as the problem is a manufactuing fault?
Rachel: If the handset has a manufacturing fault which has caused the issue, yes it will be covered under warranty
So there you go.
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That's what I thought, but was giving the benefit of the doubt to see where his information was coming from.
Cheers.

There's been conflicting reports about this tbh. Some people have said Sony tried to back out of exchanges labeling the devices as water RESISTANT and not water PROOF. Anyway, I suggest you don't outright soak the device in water. what's the use anyway? if it gets splashed by accident you'll be fine. Sure it's a fun little feature but I think all of us can agree it could suck to see our investment go to waste over something so stupid.

with the Z3 they actually put emphasis on advertising the waterproofing and the new IP rating clearly states waterproof, not just resistant.

i think the problem is some people are buying this phone and expecting to use it underwater.. when in fact, the phone is not waterproof, but rather water resistance.. huge difference.. perhaps sony made a mistake by "advertising" the phone being exposed to water.. IMO if people want to use this phone underwater they should probably not buy this phone and probably spend their money on a camera designed for underwater use.

KarimSalloum said:
There's been conflicting reports about this tbh. Some people have said Sony tried to back out of exchanges labeling the devices as water RESISTANT and not water PROOF. Anyway, I suggest you don't outright soak the device in water. what's the use anyway? if it gets splashed by accident you'll be fine. Sure it's a fun little feature but I think all of us can agree it could suck to see our investment go to waste over something so stupid.
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Sorry, wrong... please see below attached.
Bäcker said:
with the Z3 they actually put emphasis on advertising the waterproofing and the new IP rating clearly states waterproof, not just resistant.
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Indeed...
tft said:
i think the problem is some people are buying this phone and expecting to use it underwater.. when in fact, the phone is not waterproof, but rather water resistance.. huge difference.. perhaps sony made a mistake by "advertising" the phone being exposed to water.. IMO if people want to use this phone underwater they should probably not buy this phone and probably spend their money on a camera designed for underwater use.
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Again, sorry but wrong..., please see the attachment.
Not that we should use this phone to do a master piece of film while diving, but it is for taking pictures and short videos underwater.
Cheers,

tft said:
i think the problem is some people are buying this phone and expecting to use it underwater.. when in fact, the phone is not waterproof, but rather water resistance.. huge difference.. perhaps sony made a mistake by "advertising" the phone being exposed to water.. IMO if people want to use this phone underwater they should probably not buy this phone and probably spend their money on a camera designed for underwater use.
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Dumbest post ever

Well I've used it to film my fish from inside the tank and it's still fine. Most of the new phones are indeed water resistant but this has a different IP rating which states that it is waterproof
Also this (which is funny and worth a watch anyway:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIf9GdCzY_Y

Guys, of course they label the phone as water resistant. However, they say it can be submerged for x distance for x time. So, yes your can submerge the device. If this is what they mean by resistant, then it was build for more than just a rainy day or a tipped over cup.
My original Z1s took the pool like a pro when I was on vacation.

The port covering the charging connector on mine seems a little off on one side! No matter how i try to close it a gap appears bigger on one side then the other! Not sure if it compromises its water proof'ness' but iam scared to find out ha In saying that,I never had a water proof phone in my life and they all did fine (obviously i didnt submerge them in water) but i doubt i will ever have a need to with this handset either! If i ever do however and it ruins the phone ....i willNOT be happy ha

Discovered a manufacturing defect in the waterproofing of at least two D6653 phones

Hey,
Just making this post to bring to light a common manufacturing defect I've discovered in at least two Xperia Z3 D6653 phones around the wrist strap hole. Apparently it's not completely sealed, and will leak air and water. As a hacky solution I've taped over the hole with electric tape, and that seals the device. I assume it's present in many more phones if the same problem showed up in mine. Just wanted to get the info out there before people start submerging their new phones.
I've made a video to demonstrate the issue:
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Wow. I can get the same thing to happen when I press against the lanyard hole vs not. However, before finding out about this, I previously dunked this phone in water with a video playing for about a minute and it continued to work fine. Was it only a matter of time before water would get it and make my phone fail? I'm not sure. But there I can't think of a good reason why the pressure will increase and stay high with the lanyard hole closed vs open and the pressure equalizes. I have the D6616.

lvlonkey said:
Wow. I can get the same thing to happen when I press against the lanyard hole vs not. However, before finding out about this, I previously dunked this phone in water with a video playing for about a minute and it continued to work fine. Was it only a matter of time before water would get it and make my phone fail? I'm not sure. But there I can't think of a good reason why the pressure will increase and stay high with the lanyard hole closed vs open and the pressure equalizes. I have the D6616.
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I previously used the first phone underwater very briefly (about 30-60 seconds), and it seemed just fine. Though I tried it later for about 5 straight minutes and it started getting very hot in the lower left hand corner and it made a buzzing sound from that same area around the hole. It also wasn't very deep at all, only about 3-4 inches of water.

Fixed the video link for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VpuMfpxCrQ
Manufacturing defect. The Z3 is full of it! :/
Attached is mine with an uneven flap.

hanime said:
Fixed the video link for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VpuMfpxCrQ
Manufacturing defect. The Z3 is full of it! :/
Attached is mine with an uneven flap.
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My 3rd one had that lol, 4th one so far seems aesthetically good.

abhinav.tella said:
My 3rd one had that lol, 4th one so far seems aesthetically good.
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I'm trying to get another exchange from the ebay seller. Here goes nothing. Sorry for the off-topic.

Mines goes from 1007 to 1116 and straight back down to 1007. Should I be worried?
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I was the one on your YT vid that suggested using black RTV silicone, in place of electrical tape, to seal up this apparent hole. RTV silicone is rubbery when dry and yet can easily be removed when needed and will not damage the phone. As well, it is black so it will match the phones body to some degree. If needed, get a toothpick and pop out what you filled in. If not, leave it forever and seal up the hole.

That's a good idea but I'm annoyed by the fact that we have to resort to these fixes for something that shouldn't be a problem in the first place.

How are you 100% positive that just because it leaks air, it is not waterproof. I fish a lot and wear breathable wader that do not let water in but it is not air tight since it lets water vapor/air out. Water molecule is relatively large compare to air molecule.

Someone should make a tiny rubber plug, I'd buy one just to ease my paranoid side.
aquaholik (interesting SN to point this out) made a good comment as well, things can be watertight but not necessarily airtight and this could be by design to let the internals breathe

Agree with aquaholik. And the most important part, shouldn't the barometer sensor have access to air? How else can it measure the pressure of air?

lvlonkey said:
That's a good idea but I'm annoyed by the fact that we have to resort to these fixes for something that shouldn't be a problem in the first place.
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Agreed 100%. But I will take my idea over a piece of tape any day
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Someone should make a tiny rubber plug, I'd buy one just to ease my paranoid side.
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use my RTV Silicone idea and you will get just that. It will form the area and make an impression and IF you opt to take it out, you would have a "plug" of sorts.

My phone has this behaviour as well. I already had it in water briefly.
This might be a seal/mebrane to account for heavy pressure changes.

Bäcker said:
My phone has this behaviour as well. I already had it in water briefly.
This might be a seal/mebrane to account for heavy pressure changes.
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I'm copying my response to a reddit post I made about the video...
...the first (now non-functional phone) only lasted about 5 minutes in about 3-4 inches of water. When I pulled it out of the water, it was buzzing and really hot in the lower left corner, which is exactly where the lanyard hole is.
This is very strong evidence that water got in through that hole, especially since the rest of the phone is so well sealed. Plus lasting only 5 minutes at that depth is clearly below the rated performance of 1.5 meters for 30 minutes.
When I got the first phone, I tested the waterproofing of the device by putting it in a dish of water for about a minute, and it seemed just fine after coming out. So I assumed it was sealed, but it simply took much longer for water to enter.
Given my experience with the first phone, I'd rather play it safe and just tape over the hole than risk damaging yet another device in conditions that are well within spec.

Yeah, I totally understand where you are coming from. But if there was indeed a membrane/valve to counter dramatic pressure changes, then closing this pathway could lead to new problems.

Bäcker said:
Yeah, I totally understand where you are coming from. But if there was indeed a membrane/valve to counter dramatic pressure changes, then closing this pathway could lead to new problems.
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That's true if it's by design. Which it may still be.
However, I'm going to just run 100% with it plugged and see if anything happens. I really can't afford to lose yet another phone in just a few weeks, and If I do get any negative side effects, I'll be sure to report back.

I'm so paranoid. After reading everywhere complains about the questionable waterproof of the Z3, I decided to give it a ride and check out if it really survives, as I still have the return policy and I was really scared but I put it in water, not to deep, took a little bucket and filled it with about 10-15 cm water and waited for about a minute. As I expected it survived well and I didn't see any abnormalities. Then I dried it up using a microfiber towel and everything works fine. I'll see the next days if I find something strange but everything seems fine. Speakers and microphone work well.

Send your other one through sony repair.
They should cover it as long as the indicators arent red.
They repaired my original Z which displayed water damage, but because the indicators didnt turn, fixed it.
Its clearly a manufacture defect if it is the lanyard hole being open which is causing the problem.

killa78 said:
Send your other one through sony repair.
They should cover it as long as the indicators arent red.
They repaired my original Z which displayed water damage, but because the indicators didnt turn, fixed it.
Its clearly a manufacture defect if it is the lanyard hole being open which is causing the problem.
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they should cover it even if the indicators are red, they market it as a water resistant device.

No, The s7 edge is not waterproof [Tested]

...... Rescinded

Well yes. Samsung said "water resistant", not "water proof", which means it's supposed to resist against water under certain conditions (up to 1.5m for 30mins), not function under it. The capacitive screen and capacitive buttons work with anything that holds an electrical charge, including pool water because it contains ions in it, so that's why they were being pressed.
But indeed, you are right with about not intentionally doing anything out of the ordinary, trying to test the water resistance. It is more of a safety feature, and Samsung is mistaking by advertising otherwise (they don't always do this).

I tried it several times - dived under water and take pictures with it or videos and everything is working just fine. But as I am reading more and more things about non water proof s7 edge I am starting to think that next time I better wont take my phone under water.

You don't understand physics,don't you? You can submerge the phone in shallow water - let's say it drops in your cereal bowl.
But if you take it to the pool and swim with it this is what gonna happen - you swim - therefore you move - the water "hits" your phone with a certain pressure,depending on your swimming speed.
So if you put your phone in a bowl with water and MOVE the phone very fast the water pressure on the ports will be like it's submerged under 10 feet of water
You get it? It's for accidents,its not the bext Go Pro Pool Edition.
I am really curious,if you buy a hatchet,do you try to cut your fingers with it to see if it works?
People will come here to inform themselves about the phone,maybe they want to buy it.
What they see? A post about a faulty phone - guess what - samsung never said about WATERPROOF - its WATERRESISTANT. Stop spreading these false informations.

I swum with the edge several times and never had a problem with it. I took some beautiful pictures under water. My experience is no guarantee for everybody
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Mehigh101 said:
You don't understand physics,don't you? You can submerge the phone in shallow water - let's say it drops in your cereal bowl.
But if you take it to the pool and swim with it this is what gonna happen - you swim - therefore you move - the water "hits" your phone with a certain pressure,depending on your swimming speed.
So if you put your phone in a bowl with water and MOVE the phone very fast the water pressure on the ports will be like it's submerged under 10 feet of water
You get it? It's for accidents,its not the bext Go Pro Pool Edition.
I am really curious,if you buy a hatchet,do you try to cut your fingers with it to see if it works?
People will come here to inform themselves about the phone,maybe they want to buy it.
What they see? A post about a faulty phone - guess what - samsung never said about WATERPROOF - its WATERRESISTANT. Stop spreading these false informations.
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I didnt swim, I submerged it underwater for 4 seconds. Not more than that. it wasnt deep. just under the surface,
I didnt stop people from buying it, its the best samsung phone i have ever owned. I just wanted to caution them to not try submerging it without any reason, just to be safe. i dont think i said it will be the same for everybody. I shared my scary experience. thats all?

Mehigh101 said:
You don't understand physics,don't you? You can submerge the phone in shallow water - let's say it drops in your cereal bowl.
But if you take it to the pool and swim with it this is what gonna happen - you swim - therefore you move - the water "hits" your phone with a certain pressure,depending on your swimming speed.
So if you put your phone in a bowl with water and MOVE the phone very fast the water pressure on the ports will be like it's submerged under 10 feet of water
You get it? It's for accidents,its not the bext Go Pro Pool Edition.
I am really curious,if you buy a hatchet,do you try to cut your fingers with it to see if it works?
People will come here to inform themselves about the phone,maybe they want to buy it.
What they see? A post about a faulty phone - guess what - samsung never said about WATERPROOF - its WATERRESISTANT. Stop spreading these false informations.
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Calm down and dont say crap that doesnt interest anyone. thx

marahlad said:
I am starting to think that next time I better wont take my phone under water.
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You should have had this brilliant thought from the beginning. This feature is just meant to save your phone and money in an unfortunate situation.

Cst79 said:
You should have had this brilliant thought from the beginning. This feature is just meant to save your phone and money in an unfortunate situation.
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I dont want to know your opinion about how am I using MY phone. I am just sharing my experiences about this topic.

Cst79 said:
You should have had this brilliant thought from the beginning. This feature is just meant to save your phone and money in an unfortunate situation.
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Really?
Samsung doesn't really portray it is such in their advertisements!
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=Q_8AYvFrLO0
It's all very well being judgemental, but when Samsung put out adverts like this you'd have a put the blame on Samsung for actively encouraging people to dunk their phones!
Regards,
Dave
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marahlad said:
Calm down and dont say crap that doesnt interest anyone. thx
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Well, it's not crap, it's educational, which you seem to be allergic to, hence your weird reaction. Secondly, I find it pretty interesting so your last statement is wrong, thus I'm gonna have to ask you to stop talking on behalf of other people. You certainly don't know sh*t about anyone around here. Summary: The only one talking crap here would be you.

It wasn't meant to be used underwater. It's kinda like a safety feature if you accidentally dropped it in water and quickly react to taking it out. Pretty sure pool water has various salts so that kinda factors in too.
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gessus wessus... doesn't matter what word or definition is used, the s7 phone has good gaskets and can exceed the ipx ratings stated which is total submersion for the defined period of time.
The next time you spend a weeks wage on a water resistant phone, briefly inspect the ports and make sure they are sealed and put the phone underwater for the stated amount of time and if it breaks get a refund because it's defective, if it works, then you're good to go.
mine has survived the pool and the beach many times ( I spray water repellent on it for salt water use, the non electrical conducting lubricants, before and after, e.g inox marine, wd40 isn't as good but cheaper and comes in a tiny pen style dispenser).

foxmeister said:
Really?
Samsung doesn't really portray it is such in their advertisements!
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=Q_8AYvFrLO0
It's all very well being judgemental, but when Samsung put out adverts like this you'd have a put the blame on Samsung for actively encouraging people to dunk their phones!
Regards,
Dave
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
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Its champagne resistant...

There are also many ways to damaged or destroy the seals in the s7 edge.
Like salt water, water with chlor, bending the phone in tight jeans....

I can vouch for the high quality water resistance. Even with the S5 I had 3 good years of using it as a snorkeling camera, shower radio and regularly washing it under the tap to freshen it up. It became a hand me down to my little cousin as soon as the S7 was released. I now do the same with my S7 all the time, it's even more water resistant than the S5 and it was advertised as an underwater camera. It works flawlessly. I even rinse it off to cool it down after long sessions of VR. It drops from 35 degrees Celsius to 25 in 5 seconds. Stop being so paranoid. The phone is really as water resistant as it claims to be. The only reason why it's not "water proof" is because there is no industrial standard by which you can call something water proof.

Well a friend of mine left his S7E in a hottub at 80c and 1.5m underwater for anhour phone still works just fine.

+1 Well said. LOL!!!
nitrous² said:
Well, it's not crap, it's educational, which you seem to be allergic to, hence your weird reaction. Secondly, I find it pretty interesting so your last statement is wrong, thus I'm gonna have to ask you to stop talking on behalf of other people. You certainly don't know sh*t about anyone around here. Summary: The only one talking crap here would be you.
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indigobv said:
Well yes. Samsung said "water resistant", not "water proof", which means it's supposed to resist against water under certain conditions (up to 1.5m for 30mins), not function under it. The capacitive screen and capacitive buttons work with anything that holds an electrical charge, including pool water because it contains ions in it, so that's why they were being pressed.
But indeed, you are right with about not intentionally doing anything out of the ordinary, trying to test the water resistance. It is more of a safety feature, and Samsung is mistaking by advertising otherwise (they don't always do this).
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Sooo, I did test the phone half submerged in a gently flowing river and I can tell you that it isn't waterproof under that condition. Condensation under the camera lens showed up within 1/2 an hour. Screen started going purple within hours. Take this as an example of a real world test.

ok, how about using it under the rain? i wouldn't dip it in pool water but anyone tried using it in the rain?

Pickled Moto (liquid damage)

I had my phone in my breast pocket in my chef jacket, bent over a bucket of pickles, and my phone slipped right into it.
Submerged for just a few seconds, and I had no idea how to deal with water damage. So I left the phone on, rebooted it three times. Speakers fine, headphones fine, charging port okay.
Few hours later battery died, wouldn't turn back on. Researched and found out keeping it on was a mistake.
Disassembled and Soaked it in 99% isopropyl alcohol for a few hours and let it naturally dry after some light brushing to remove corrosion.
It boots, screen is responsive save but for a few dead zones, and the screen is completely off.
What I'm asking is what part is likely the issue. I can obviously replace anything except the board.
Edit: And by the screen being off I mean that it doesn't light up at all. Completely dead

Zertech said:
I had my phone in my breast pocket in my chef jacket, bent over a bucket of pickles, and my phone slipped right into it.
Submerged for just a few seconds, and I had no idea how to deal with water damage. So I left the phone on, rebooted it three times. Speakers fine, headphones fine, charging port okay.
Few hours later battery died, wouldn't turn back on. Researched and found out keeping it on was a mistake.
Disassembled and Soaked it in 99% isopropyl alcohol for a few hours and let it naturally dry after some light brushing to remove corrosion.
It boots, screen is responsive save but for a few dead zones, and the screen is completely off.
What I'm asking is what part is likely the issue. I can obviously replace anything except the board.
Edit: And by the screen being off I mean that it doesn't light up at all. Completely dead
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u shud have took ur phone immediately to moto service center nearby u instead of performing anything widout knowing any knowledge about it
now it'll cost u more than directly reporting it to Moto service center
all the best

Sagar_1401 said:
u shud have took ur phone immediately to moto service center nearby u instead of performing anything widout knowing any knowledge about it
now it'll cost u more than directly reporting it to Moto service center
all the best
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I don't know about where you live, but in the US there are no "Moto Service Centers" anywhere... you have to contact support, wait for an RMA, and send the device off to the, wait a week or two, and get it sent back to you.
To be honest, the real problem here isn't water damage... "pickle juice" is a water, salt, and vinegar solution, in other words a conductor and a mild acid, both of which are very, very bad for electronics. It didn't stand much of a chance unless immediately disassembled and cleaned with a 99% isopropyl solution to remove the contaminants and acid. If this would have been just water, it would likely have been fine. I have dropped Moto G3 and X Pure in water on multiple occasions, even a 5 gallon bucket of marinara once and hosed it off with hot water at the dishwash station, but I digress, the point is water isn't the problem, its the stuff in pickle juice that is.
Honestly, at this point I don't think I would trust any components on this device... at a minimum I would replace the battery and screen assembly, and maybe the USB port assembly as well, and I still would only give it a 2/3 chance of survival. Problem is at this point you are almost better off to replace the device because you would be into it for over $100 (assuming you did it yourself) and still not know for sure if it would be viable for any length of time, or at all for that matter.

acejavelin said:
I don't know about where you live, but in the US there are no "Moto Service Centers" anywhere... you have to contact support, wait for an RMA, and send the device off to the, wait a week or two, and get it sent back to you.
To be honest, the real problem here isn't water damage... "pickle juice" is a water, salt, and vinegar solution, in other words a conductor and a mild acid, both of which are very, very bad for electronics. It didn't stand much of a chance unless immediately disassembled and cleaned with a 99% isopropyl solution to remove the contaminants and acid. If this would have been just water, it would likely have been fine. I have dropped Moto G3 and X Pure in water on multiple occasions, even a 5 gallon bucket of marinara once and hosed it off with hot water at the dishwash station, but I digress, the point is water isn't the problem, its the stuff in pickle juice that is.
Honestly, at this point I don't think I would trust any components on this device... at a minimum I would replace the battery and screen assembly, and maybe the USB port assembly as well, and I still would only give it a 2/3 chance of survival. Problem is at this point you are almost better off to replace the device because you would be into it for over $100 (assuming you did it yourself) and still not know for sure if it would be viable for any length of time, or at all for that matter.
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A reasonable answer.
I figured pickle juice was the worst thing I could've possibly dropped it in vs almost anything else in the cooler.
I'd rather be down a hundred or so and attempt repair myself, considering that money is tight and a new phone is a decent amount more. Worst case I return the replacement parts if I can and just save for a new phone.
Thanks for the advice.

I have nothing useful to add.
But props to Zertech for the clever thread title. I got a good chuckle. But I do feel for you and hope you're able to achieve a perfect repair. Are you in Kimberly Wisconsin? I'm up in De Pere.
And thanks to acejavelin for the "5 gallon bucket of marinara" comment.

rm40f2 said:
I have nothing useful to add.
But props to Zertech for the clever thread title. I got a good chuckle. But I do feel for you and hope you're able to achieve a perfect repair. Are you in Kimberly Wisconsin? I'm up in De Pere.
And thanks to acejavelin for the "5 gallon bucket of marinara" comment.
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Kimberly Idaho actually lol.
And thanks for the luck

Just wanted to drop an update. 70 dollars bought me a new display setup, and two batteries. One of which was a mis-shipment and was for moto x, not the pure.
I assembled it today and everything has worked so far.
Only permanent damage is the top speaker was blown