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Dropped DHD onto the road.

Hey, a couple of days ago it fell out of my pocket when getting into a landrover (which was quite high up). I had no cases on but i did have a screen protector. It dropped straight onto its side and did a backflip then finishing on its screen, to be honest i am very surprised that the damage is very mild, with only a few chips in the aluminium and no scratches on the screen at all because of the screen protector. After dropping the Dhd i feel i love my phone even more, i dont know why :L. Peace out!

Get a TPU case , it will save your day .
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cashisback said:
Hey, a couple of days ago it fell out of my pocket when getting into a landrover (which was quite high up). I had no cases on but i did have a screen protector. It dropped straight onto its side and did a backflip then finishing on its screen, to be honest i am very surprised that the damage is very mild, with only a few chips in the aluminium and no scratches on the screen at all because of the screen protector. After dropping the Dhd i feel i love my phone even more, i dont know why :L. Peace out!
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You're DHD is unibody. Its a single piece of aluminium. You'd more likely break your floor than break that thing.

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vious21 said:
You're DHD is unibody. Its a single piece of aluminium. You'd more likely break your floor than break that thing.
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Well , its true the back panel is unibody .. "but there is a limit of tension that it can take after that ..... its history "
So keep your hopes low .... and try not to drop it

I did something similar. I pretty much threw my DHD across the road with it spinning on its screen. Only a tiny mark on the corner of the aluminium. Not a scratch on the glass.

get a case, the HTC one is really good

my mate fainted and fell down the stairs with his DHD in his pocket, it was virtually pristine afterwards
mines over 6 months old now and it's had some major use and it still looks brand new
don't think i'll ever change manufacturer , HTC build quality is fantastic

same here lots of heavy drops and still brand new, not one scratch on the screen, no screen protection, just the HD2 leather cover
the DHD seems immortal
also i don't know if the HTC Sensation is as rigid, the whole thing is completely detachable from the unibody, so similar falls might detach the whole thing
on the other with the DHD not even the plastic covers ever detached, its why its so hard to open i guess which stupid reviewers keep complaining about

hamdir said:
on the other with the DHD not even the plastic covers ever detached, its why its so hard to open i guess which stupid reviewers keep complaining about
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I had a real issue with this when I first received my DHD. I couldn't open it. Obviously I was unhappy and thought it was terrible but now I realise that you have to compromise somewhere to have such excellent build quality and general solid-ness.

Nokiacrazi said:
I had a real issue with this when I first received my DHD. I couldn't open it. Obviously I was unhappy and thought it was terrible but now I realise that you have to compromise somewhere to have such excellent build quality and general solid-ness.
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I actually think the covers are easy to remove once I learned how to. It was very difficult for me at the start, but now its no harder to open up than any other phone. Lesson: RTFM.
The build quality of the DHD is superb. No drops here, but it did survive being keyed accidentally without any marks or scratches.

Actually, even I've had some problems with open the battery cover. The guy from the store I bought it from said that mine was unnaturally stiff. That thing takes me around 15 min to get open.
The sensation is actually more rigid. The Unibody design continues into the battery compartment and is really solid. The cover is merely a design.

Phone getting scratched on Edge of the back chin?

Hey guys! I have a question to ask you fellow SGS II owners, ive noticed that there is a faint "scratch" line forming on the edge of the back of the phone ( the chin part where the antenna is) on mine and my friends, where the battery cover meets the chin, there is a faint scratch/used out line forming on the chin.
Have any of you guys noticed this on your S2, is it something to be concerned about?, the line is really faint but i fear it might get worse over time; its honestly the only thing that makes me want to put a case on this thing because the body is perfect otherwise.
Thanks for your input! cheers

Nip it in the bud and get a case-mate tough case. (or case of your choice)
Not only will it protect it from further damage, but will also hide it
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chrisjcks said:
Nip it in the bud and get a case-mate tough case. (or case of your choice)
Not only will it protect it from further damage, but will also hide it
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yeahh, i just hate using cases because then the phone gets all bulky and loses its amazing thinness! but yeah if this scratch thing is bad then i guess ill likely use a case

unleashed12 said:
yeahh, i just hate using cases because then the phone gets all bulky and loses its amazing thinness! but yeah if this scratch thing is bad then i guess ill likely use a case
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Personally I had to get a case for mine, as it is just too ludicrously thin and light it didn't feel right in my hand... Just saying.
Got this one, free post came the next day, nice and perfect fit
http://www.amazon.co.uk/GADGETSNTEC...IRMI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1314876435&sr=8-1

yep tha bit of the sgs2 will pick up scratches and show them more then others , it comes into touch with things before most parts of the phone ie laying it camera side down the bit you mention will always be leant on by the rest of the phone
if you are a bit like me and dont like scratches then the casemate tough is defo a good option
however i do agree with you the sgs2 feels so nice without a case its a tricky one i love the way it feels without a case yet i know ill be gutted when it gets scratched :-(
on the other hand can an item i use so much as my sgs2 be expected not to pick up useage marks?? it gets used loads and its bound to pick up wear marks no matter how hard you try to keep it nice
2 options i reckon , get used to the case on the device or learn to live with useage marks tiny little useage scratches aint so bad its when chunks are missing from drops etc

You could buy the zagg invisible shield full body, and you will not notice any difference in weight or size then and you phone will be protected against scratches.
I have my cases on hold, while i think about the new Samsung 2000mah battery as normal might not fit and it would be a waste of money buying one now.

MJ-12 said:
Personally I had to get a case for mine, as it is just too ludicrously thin and light it didn't feel right in my hand... Just saying.
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Same here
CaseMate added weight and reduced the risk of dropping my baby because of the rubber surface

The back cover on this phone doesn't make a sound, but in terms of durability is CHEAP AS HELL: it gets scratched very very easy...the first layer is really thin and weak, and when it starts wearing off the back cover begins to look white/gray, and that's really annoying. I keep my phone in a case pulling it out just to clean it from time and it's already full whitish micro scratches. God knows what would happen to it without a proper case... Also the screen is very prone to scratches: personally i haven't scratched mine because i use a protector since day 1, but a friend of mine went without it for a day and his screen had at least 5 micro scratches already. Note that he's a bank clerk, not a bricklayer, and no, he doesn't carry uncut diamonds in his pockets.
I know that gorilla glass is scratch resistant and not scratch proof, but on the GS2 there's a layer of oleophobic coating on it, which scratches really easy. Be careful with your phone guys, screen protector and case is a must have on this guy

Yes, the scratches on that lip will certainly get worse if you don't cover that area by some method. I think mine got there just from going in and out of my Jeans pocket..
I held the same opinion as OP.. why cover up this of all devices, with it's USP of ultra fine lightweight design? I finally resolved to putting a case on mine when, heavily burdened by shopping bags, I attempted to quickly pull the phone out of my pocket to answer a call but instead lost my grip and sent it cartwheeling across a concrete pavement. All four corners now bear nasty dents/abrasions. A case means a more firm grip and covers up said ugly fall damage...

mine too...

Aluminum case to amplify speaker

I am currently working on a case for the atrix that is milled out of a solid block of aluminum using a cnc machine that a will be air tight around the phone except where the speaker is on the phone there will be and a so called PORT for the sound to be forced throught that will be directed to the front of the phone using a port that will be front facing so you dont have to cup your hand around your phone to hear things, it also will have a kickstand if you all have any other ideas to incorporate into this aluminum case please feel free to post

Have you tried this with aluminum foil? You might save yourself some wasted effort.
I'm thinking such a case could have deleterious effects on some or all of the various bands of the RF spectrum. There are 3 RF based features on these phones. GPS is likely to be the most affected based on signal strength. Reduced range for both WiFi and cell is likely.
I may be wrong and hope I am. I am speculating as I have no idea where the various antennae on these phones are located.
OOPS, I forgot about Bluetooth.

Well... i think it all depends on the case, really. I mean... look at the iPhone 4. Has that whole Antennagate issue... yet companies like ElementCase release the Vapor 4... an aluminum band that get's affixed around the phone, covering the coveted antenna band.

Kickstand yeee..
Looks like an amazing case the kickstand is huge +. If the sound changes even a little bit will be a disadvantage. Engraved styles is what you can add, some parts you can make glossy other brushed. As for assembly I'd like it to be two parts with screws like the vapor bumper, but for most people will be a drawback.Shouldn't be thick since the atrix is pretty thick already. And also have you tought of doing a battery door replacement to incorporate those things. If you are making them for sale I'd like to know because it sounds like an awesome case.

nikidorian said:
Looks like an amazing case the kickstand is huge +. If the sound changes even a little bit will be a disadvantage. Engraved styles is what you can add, some parts you can make glossy other brushed. As for assembly I'd like it to be two parts with screws like the vapor bumper, but for most people will be a drawback.Shouldn't be thick since the atrix is pretty thick already. And also have you tought of doing a battery door replacement to incorporate those things. If you are making them for sale I'd like to know because it sounds like an awesome case.
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Atrix could stand to be thicker. Not too fond of the thinnest phone eva craze.
Iphone > galaxy s 2.

Lie the phone on an aluminum desk and watch your service fade away. I have an aluminum desk at work for drafting and I gi from 3 bars to no service at all if I set it on my desk. Pick it up about 6 inches and bame, 3 bars again. Im right in front of a window too. I have to put my phone up on my filing stand. Once phones went with internal antennas, metal casings had to go. Im pretty sure it will kill the signal at 3 bars and lower. Mill it out of abs and it will be a hot item. For those wanting a thicker phone, do a search for extended batteries. They come with a modified back case that's thicker to accommodate the fat battery. Almost an 1/8th to 1/4 inch thicker.
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Dirtburgler said:
Lie the phone on an aluminum desk and watch your service fade away. I have an aluminum desk at work for drafting and I gi from 3 bars to no service at all if I set it on my desk. Pick it up about 6 inches and bame, 3 bars again. Im right in front of a window too. I have to put my phone up on my filing stand. Once phones went with internal antennas, metal casings had to go. Im pretty sure it will kill the signal at 3 bars and lower. Mill it out of abs and it will be a hot item. For those wanting a thicker phone, do a search for extended batteries. They come with a modified back case that's thicker to accommodate the fat battery. Almost an 1/8th to 1/4 inch thicker.
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Those fat batterys are horribly ugly. No one wants a fat block sticking out the phone. We want a little thicker door to make the phone feel more solid and look the same.

Wireless Reception Issues?

Here's something to think about. The One's casing is indeed 100% aluminum. In every previous attempt by a manufacturer to use an all-aluminum housing the result was disastrous for wireless reception. That includes antenna-gate on the Sensation which only had a partial aluminum body. Looking at the casing HTC's either going to try to get a signal through it or the antennas will have to be forward facing to get through the glass front panel. Neither is a recipe for great and/or consistent wireless reception. It'll be interesting to see how the One does once it's tested by sites like GSMArena and Anandtech.

First of all..I still don't get the "all aluminium construction" as from some pictures the sides are clearly NOT metal but plastic.
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His focus on the all-metal attributes is a direct shot at the iPhone 5, which similarly uses aluminum but has a top and bottom row on the back that's constructed of glass, enabling the antenna inside to broadcast and receive signals. The HTC One, however, worked around that by building the antenna into the metal back of the phone, allowing for a more seamless looking device.
While the back of the phone is part of the antenna, Croyle doesn't foresee any reception issues like the iPhone 4, which used the metal frame around the phone as its antenna, causing some signal issues when held the wrong way. Croyle promised there wouldn't be an "antennagate" with the One.
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...ke-good-first-impression-with-all-metal-body/

Its mentioned a hundred times on this forum how the antenna is integrated into this phone. The back has strips for it... look at the pictures...
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Eggcake said:
First of all..I still don't get the "all aluminium construction" as from some pictures the sides are clearly NOT metal but plastic.
Other than that:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...ke-good-first-impression-with-all-metal-body/
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HTC says that the white strips on the sides are in fact metal.

Eggcake said:
First of all..I still don't get the "all aluminium construction" as from some pictures the sides are clearly NOT metal but plastic.
Other than that:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...ke-good-first-impression-with-all-metal-body/
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It's no plastic @ the side its all metal....its just metal in a different colour...if u take out all components u are left full metal case so I don't see where the plastic is from
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Eggcake said:
the sides are clearly NOT metal but plastic.
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Guess again.
HTC also makes a big deal about the One's all-aluminum chassis, describing it as using a zero-gap unibody design. Indeed, available in hues of black and silver, the handset feels sturdy, has reassuring heft, and its smooth metallic skin exudes high-end craftsmanship. HTC also took pains to point out that while the thin white trim encircling the silver model I manhandled appears to be plastic, it is in fact metal.​

The iPhone 5 needed a lot of glass and the iPad needs the plastic Apple logo for the WiFi and those black plastic strips for the 3g versions. The HTC fans better hope that they need less plastic than Apple or they will have an Asus Transformer prime fiasco here.
The fans better hope that HTC has thoroughly tested this thing from a basement, between two skyscrapers, to a boat, to the top of the mountain, in car, on a helicopter etc. Judging from HTC craftsmanship from the past though, especially button ergonomics, good luck HTC fans.

Oh alright, that's news for me. Very good news in fact

guess they learned what to fix after the fiasco on the one x

Tomatoes8 said:
The HTC fans better hope that they need less plastic than Apple or they will have an Asus Transformer prime fiasco here.
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That's exactly what I thought of when it was announced the One's housing was all-aluminum. Here's what Anand said about the Prime's signal issues which Asus corrected in the Infinity by adding a plastic strip along the back where the antennas are. Wi-Fi limped along on the Prime but GPS was so FUBAR because of the all metal-back Asus ended up giving owners a detachable external dongle in order to use GPS at all.
There is no RF window on the back of the Prime where the two antennas are located. Aluminum does a fairly good job of attenuating RF signals, which contributes to worse range on WiFi than the original plastic Eee Pad Transformer. WiFi performance at the edge of reception as well as the maximum usable WiFi range are both noticeably lower than its predecessor.​
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guess they learned what to fix after the fiasco on the one x
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The One X Wi-Fi issue was caused by connectors not meeting properly during the production process. HTC can't defy the laws of physics which say metal and wireless signals aren't compatible. In the Prime scenario Tomatoes8 mentioned Asus added a second antenna and used diversity as a means of getting a signal through the metal back cover. They also amped the signal up to the point it interfered with BT which uses the same 2.4GHz frequency. The challenge is even greater using metal on a phone because there's less physical space to work with in terms of antenna size, placement, and interference with other components.
For HTC and fans of their devices sake I hope this isn't an issue. But if they succeed in using an all-metal housing and still maintain competitive wireless performance they'll be the first to do so where there’s a history of others failing.

Just another quote/info from Anandtech:
Plastic is injected into the aluminum block after certain cuts are made for the back case, which then gets machined into the final form. The One uses the top and bottom aluminum strips for antennas, both of which are actively tuned to mitigate unintended attenuation from being held. There’s a plastic insulative strip in-between the two antennas and the main body. In spite of being aluminum, the One also includes NFC, whose active area surrounds the camera region. There’s no wireless charging from Qi or WPC, however.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/6754/hands-on-with-the-htc-one-formerly-m7
But yeah, let's hope they really tested it...it would be a fiasco otherwise.

maybe u can use the garanty?

Eggcake said:
Just another quote/info from Anandtech.
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Great info. But one has to wonder with an R&D budget larger than HTC's capitalization why Apple wouldn't have figured the same thing out and avoided the issues they faced when they took the Apple logo off the back of the iPad and moved the antenna under the perforated speaker grate and had to use a plastic trim strip over the antenna on the 3G/GPS version. The only real pass/fail test will be when there are One's in people's hands for a couple of months. It took almost three months (launched in March, issue identified in June) for users to figure out the commonality in the One X's wireless issue. Kudos to HTC if they've figured out how to design a metal device with decent wireless performance where others haven't been able to.

Rugged case with GRIPPY back?

Hi,
I'm on the hunt for a rugged case for my Nexus 4. I have only two requirements. It needs to be rugged. And the back needs to be really grippy. The Seidio Convert case I ordered may be rugged enough to stop a train, but it also falls out of my hand at a very shallow angle because the back isn't grippy. It sort of baffles me - if the case is supposed to be rugged, you'd think preventing falls by making it so grippy it wouldn't leave your hand would be a priority. Even the rubber underneath the plastic back-clip is not very grippy. The Otterbox defender for my Galaxy Nexus was a perfect example of this done the right way.
Do such cases exist for the Nexus 4? Is there a good grippy substance I could put across the back of my seidio convert? I don't care that much how it looks, I just want it to not leave my hand.
Thanks!

Have you seen this?
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/AddOns...2a8-a34afb37bacc&inCart=True&catCode=21&qty=1
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I have this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AVAT76M/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It is very inexpensive compared to the Body Glove (although I think the Body Glove looks better). I got it for $3+$3 shipping. It appears that is the current price as well (US). I don't use it anymore as it is very grippy and is hard for me pull out of my pockets. I will use it again in camping/hiking/traveling situations.

maybe this will help http://www.amazon.com/KaysCase-Armo...d=1363105718&sr=1-1&keywords=kayscase+nexus+4
Comes in different colors

Thanks for the suggestions! Nexibot hgigh, those cases would be perfect except for the plastic right down the middle which I assume is a kick stand. I usually place my fingers right along the middle, particularly when I do a one-handed reach to the top corner of my phone for a notification pull-down.
mackster248, I like the idea of the gel grips, but I really need the entire back to be one giant grippy surface or i find the phone flying out of my hand far more than I like.
This obsession with grip may seem a bit odd, but if you work around water, making sure the phone never leaves your hand is probably more important than impact protection.
Thanks again, I'd welcome more suggestions if people have them!

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I have this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AVAT76M/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It is very inexpensive compared to the Body Glove (although I think the Body Glove looks better). I got it for $3+$3 shipping. It appears that is the current price as well (US). I don't use it anymore as it is very grippy and is hard for me pull out of my pockets. I will use it again in camping/hiking/traveling situations.
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That's the one I got and love it. Had a little piece of rubber on the volume rocker tear off but still a great case.
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