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Hi All,
I'd like to start a thread listing USB DACs that are compatible with the Galaxy S3.
Here's what I've got or have read about:
Compatible:
Headphonia USB DAC cable (was very excited about this one!)
HRT MusicStreamer II
Fiio E7
Incompatible:
Fiio E17
M-Audio Transit
Can anyone add to this list?
Good thread. I can't add to the list right now, but I'll be watching with interest.
Froot loop,
What file types did you play with the HRT MusicStreamer II? I'm interested in playing 16/44.1 and 24/96 FLAC files. Have you verified these or would you mind testing it for me?
Thanks in advance.
I just got my USB OTG adapter and am happy to report that my HeadRoom Total BitHead headphone amplifier is compatible.
Are these DACs much better than the Wolfson DAC already in the SGS3?
froot loop said:
Hi All,
I'd like to start a thread listing USB DACs that are compatible with the Galaxy S3.
Here's what I've got or have read about:
Compatible:
Headphonia USB DAC cable (was very excited about this one!)
HRT MusicStreamer II
Fiio E7
Incompatible:
Fiio E17
M-Audio Transit
Can anyone add to this list?
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Froot Loop Awesome Thread....I have a quick question does the E7 have EQ?
I am very interested on the Fiio products. At the moment I have been leaning towards the E11 for my laptop and occasional use with the SG3, but after reading this the E7 makes more sense as It should reproduce a better sound from my laptop as well. My IEM's are a bit bass heavy when listening on my laptop...on the S3 I have installed an EQ that has allowed me to shape the sound curve closer to my liking. My IEM are the Thinksound TS02+mic..they are really good, but depending on source, Low tones can dominate.
Thanks for the feedback!
cnstarz said:
Are these DACs much better than the Wolfson DAC already in the SGS3?
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Much less "noise" at the very least.. A whole enclosure just for a DAC would (generally) > one packed in a phone/ipod/etc
And I thought that the S3 didn't have the Wolfson?
That being said, I'll try to test my ObjectiveDAC if I can find some sort of micro to mini usb solution...
Hi all,
I currently own the m8 and love it for its awesome sound quality, however the camera is absolute pants!
The only other phone I'd consider is the z2 but I am worried that the volume and sound quality via headphones will be disappointing. Can anyone tell me if the z2 with the sound mod will be as good as the m8?
Thanks
jimxms said:
Hi all,
I currently own the m8 and love it for its awesome sound quality, however the camera is absolute pants!
The only other phone I'd consider is the z2 but I am worried that the volume and sound quality via headphones will be disappointing. Can anyone tell me if the z2 with the sound mod will be as good as the m8?
Thanks
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I would admit loudspeakers are not as good as M8. But with the headphones, its so much better, background noise is cancelled out thus youre getting more out of your music. Bass and stuff. And its comfortable too. Just a small tip, try listening to music on landscape while on loudspeaker, magically improves music experience. No tricks, no software magic. Just how your ear works. Try it!
jimxms said:
Hi all,
I currently own the m8 and love it for its awesome sound quality, however the camera is absolute pants!
The only other phone I'd consider is the z2 but I am worried that the volume and sound quality via headphones will be disappointing. Can anyone tell me if the z2 with the sound mod will be as good as the m8?
Thanks
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When I first purchased the phone I was very disappointed with the sound quality coming from a Wolfson Galaxy S3. Now with RomAur (Beats + Sound Mod + Viper) and Doomkernel (Faux Sound) I am very happy.
I use a combination of Faux/Viper/Walkman settings in combination with the preinstalled Beats and Z2 Sound Mod and the audio quality now rivals my S3 and surpassed my HTC One M7 (via my Sony ZX-600 headphones). Can't speak for the M8 sadly.
TLR - Z2 sound quality stock is disappointing. With mods it's great.
Regards.
Both phones use the same DAC. The difference in sound comes from software and the headphone port. The Z2 has a nice black background, so its headphone port must be decent. It also has a very nice bass boost in its built in equalizer, which works in any music app and not just the Walkman app. The reason I like the bass boost is because it boosts the lower end more than the higher end bass, so it doesn't bleed into the mids. I don't use the Clear Audio+ option as it just increases the treble but also narrows the soundstage.
The included IEMs are also very decent for bundled earphones. They have a nice flat frequency response but can also give punchy bass when you make them. They have decent instrument separation as well. They could maybe do with a little more clarity, but that's all really. The noise cancelling also works really well.
I've never had the privilege of listening to any Wolfson DACs, but the DAC inside my Z2 sounds quite comparable to the Texas Instruments DAC inside my JDS Labs C5D. It's to do with taste more than anything at this point. Again, the DACs in the M8 and Z2 are the same, so they shouldn't sound too different with software tweaks off. Can you not just try one out in a store anyway?
jimxms said:
Hi all,
I currently own the m8 and love it for its awesome sound quality, however the camera is absolute pants!
The only other phone I'd consider is the z2 but I am worried that the volume and sound quality via headphones will be disappointing. Can anyone tell me if the z2 with the sound mod will be as good as the m8?
Thanks
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Im using z2. Sound mod with headphones enchanting is not working for me. Its comes bugging noises. So i do prefer using sound mod without headphone enchanted. For m8 i cannot tell. But for my z2, i fully satisfy. Amazing sound with my sennheiser ie-80. Deep and detail bass. Good for easy listening. The trebles is smooth. And great Vocal too. Over all surpassing my htc one sc. Im using original rom v 314. Doomkernel v10. And yes i prefer sound enchantment than clear audio +. Ram, camera, sound, waterproof. Its comparable device for me.
Can confirm that the sound quality you get out of the box is very good, playing with the eq settings makes it even better. It's noticeable better than the Z1.
I'm using the A-Jays Three earphones and I'm really pleased although I'm wondering if getting the noice cancelling earphones would give me a even better experience.
Are they worth getting it?
Sent from my Xperia Z2
Jiyeon90 said:
Can confirm that the sound quality you get out of the box is very good, playing with the eq settings makes it even better. It's noticeable better than the Z1.
I'm using the A-Jays Three earphones and I'm really pleased although I'm wondering if getting the noice cancelling earphones would give me a even better experience.
Are they worth getting it?
Sent from my Xperia Z2
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For noise canceling they are great,sound quality is OK but not the best you can buy.
Sound on my Z2 is quite decent with the official ROM, however if you flash CM and that would be gone instantly and the volume will be very low.
I prefer using headphones over loudspeaker anyways but it would be better with a Mod, can someone post a link to a thread or something?
Thanks.
Well I don't really like the sound and noise cancelling on the official Sony Rom!
You really have to tweak it to be good.
The really best wound comes when you have a CM Rom installed and the equalizer set to Rock! It's is fantastic for any type of music. And If you want it louder there is mod for that...
No noise cancelling, clear sound, Beats... whatever, can "beat" the sound that come out a CM rom... in my opinion of course...
Z2 Soundmod http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2293589 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2293589 this i can confirm so far can be installed and works.
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Z2 Soundmod http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2293589 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2293589 this i can confirm so far can be installed and works.
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Do you need unlocked bootloader for that?
Sent from my Xperia Z2
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Do you need unlocked bootloader for that?
Sent from my Xperia Z2
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If you can have custom recovery without unlocking bootloader. The answer is no needed. Because u need to flash zip with cwmr/twrp. Try to search xda forum about that. I lost my drm key and unlocking my bootloader on the first day this phone come out the box. So i never try to find out about that. And im using doom kernel v10 now.
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If you can have custom recovery without unlocking bootloader. The answer is no needed. Because u need to flash zip with cwmr/twrp. Try to search xda forum about that. I lost my drm key and unlocking my bootloader on the first day this phone come out the box. So i never try to find out about that. And im using doom kernel v10 now.
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Yes I have custom recovery, thanks
Sent from my Xperia Z2
I started stock... the speakers were decent but just not loud enough for me
Then I bought the noise-canceling earphones and they made a world of difference
Still not satisfied I rooted, unlocked bootloader, and installed CM11
I just found it a little buggy and went back stock...
Then rooted again and installed SOUNDMOD by olokos
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2758189
Bought MDR-XB90EX earbuds
http://www.amazon.com/MDR-XB90EX-In...ie=UTF8&qid=1412894172&sr=8-1&keywords=xb90ex
Almost everything is perfect except for two things:
1) I get a crackling with Hangouts notifications (not all the time, comes randomly)
2) Call quality on the earpiece is SO quiet. Speakers sound great.
I dont know why. But other mod make my sq getting worse. Still using pure audio and stock now. Tried z2 mod by olokos. Got bugging noises. Tried m8 mod. Got breaking sound for sub.
Also tried sirius soundmod last night. And got same issue. Annoyingly noises came after installed.
I'm using noice cancelling headset with viper4android and fauxsound. It's enough for me.
Deciding between these two for my next phone. Can anyone comment on the sound quality for playing music through headphones? Thanks.
I'm using Ultrasone dj1 pro (229$ at amazon) and I'm really satisfied with the quality. I'm listening through them about 8h/day. Also playing through a pair of active speakers (those tho not so expensive ones, M-audio AV40) and same there.
Can't say i heard a difference between this phone and my old S3 with wolfson chip.
With that said I've not listened to Z2.
From a quick liisten to my wife's Z2 and my Note 3 and G3 I would say they detail is similar between the Z2 and G3, which are both better than the Note 3. But I found the G3 to be more neutral and present a more realistic sound stage. The issue with the G3 is that it does not work with all headphones, please search the forum on this issue.
Sound quality was one of those prios for me too in determining whether or not buying G3 as my next device after Htc One-X as it has decent audio quality thanks to beats audio. And G3 is not worse than it. I use Pioneer HDJ-500K at home, and connecting to the car audio via aux ti listen to music from my local storage as well as online sources like spotify, tune-in radio etc, shortly happy with my selection. Had no such issues mentioned in other threads. (D855, 32/3Gb EU model, ontouched)
My g3 got a weird hissing sound not always tho but you will notice it when its there. Tested both devices and i say they are almost the same on default.
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From a quick liisten to my wife's Z2 and my Note 3 and G3 I would say they detail is similar between the Z2 and G3, which are both better than the Note 3. But I found the G3 to be more neutral and present a more realistic sound stage. The issue with the G3 is that it does not work with all headphones, please search the forum on this issue.
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Interesting... I find the Z2 has a better Bass but the G3 is louder which could possibly make the a Treble seem higher.
I have just acquired aptx compatible Sony MDR 1RBT headphones and the Wolfson DAC in the LG G3 is amazing much better than the Sanpdragon Note 4
for loudspeaker, g3 is louder. will have to ask audiophiles which sounds better in loudspeaker mode.
when using default headsets and default normal equalizer, g3 wins on treble and z2 a bit better on bass.
best battery = check
best camera = check
great looking = check
rugged = check
turns heads = check
best outdoor brightness = check
thin =check
sound through headphones = sony why did you do this... really really bad for a flagship
i have high quality noise canceling sony headphones but it doesn;t do justice ............sony if you are reading this..... do something about it
Look into your sound settings, you can select different sound profiles for headphones there.
Sound quality is bad on sony xba h1!
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melogray said:
Look into your sound settings, you can select different sound profiles for headphones there.
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you seem like you are satisfied with this sort of sound quality ....... in that case you are yet to hear good music quality from headphones on mobile device ...... btw i have tried every possible thing
Do you have 32Ohm earphones/headphones? That could be the reason. The Z3's volume levels will not be good for those types. I think you may need root to boost volume levels. Reviews generally said the Z3 has great audio but let down by low volume when paired with high resistance ear/headphones.
I recently ordered a V-Moda Crossfade M80 28.5 Ohm Headphones, might not get good volume levels but let's wait and see.
What impediance is suggested for this device? I'm wanting to buy a set of buds (with mic) very soon...
i have a pair of audio-technica m50's and i personally think it sounds pretty good just lacks volume but have noticed this problem with all phones not just the z3
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What impediance is suggested for this device? I'm wanting to buy a set of buds (with mic) very soon...
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Get low impedance ie 16 Ohm as in most standard ear-buds.
I just tested my V-Moda Crossfade M80, it's very loud! 28.5 Ohms impedance. It's on discount for $90 till Feb 1st on Amazon.
Unfortunately, I do not have the same problem. My IEM is playing pretty high quality music for my phone. I had $10 earphones which would always break so I disregarded the one's sony came with and got some awesome Westone UM Pro 10s and I gotta say there is a world's difference. Are you using FLAC, 320kbps, or other high quality music files? Does it happen with just a couple songs or is all of your music just low quality?
Sounds to me like you have a very faulty device. I have downloaded FLAC-files to play through the native walkman app. This phone actually has very good sound straight out the headphone jack! If you feel the phone is lacking volume this can easily be fixed by buying a headphone amp like the Fiio E6 or E11.
Take a look at this insanely in-depth review of the audio of the Sony Z3!
http://www.head-fi.org/t/737108/sony-xperia-z3-audio-quality
skit777 said:
Sound quality is bad on sony xba h1!
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Try with another iem, i use UE900 n its very good for smartphone, its nearly same with fiio x1
Just little more low power
Best sound through headphones from any phone I've owned, coming from a GS3, Nexus 4, Nexus 5 and Moto X 2014 Pure.
I'm using Audio Technica ATH-IM03's currently. I've used UE Super fi 5 pro and HiFiman RE400's as well. I have a feeling the DAC used has a greater dynamic range than the phones I previously had. Highs have a nicer sizzle and the low end bass has a low end roll that flows under the music.
This phone has a few short comings and I miss my Moto X for it's features and stock experience, but for the amount of time I spend listening to music, man this thing is solid.
Sound quality is great for me.
Hello all audiophile Z5 owners!
How is the headphone output on this phone?
Is the quality good and loud?
Where can I find more specifications of the headphone jack and internal amp?
TordFuglstad said:
Hello all audiophile Z5 owners!
How is the headphone output on this phone?
Is the quality good and loud?
Where can I find more specifications of the headphone jack and internal amp?
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I wouldn't say I was a proper audio file but the audio on the z5 is good its really clear and louder than previous Z phones but once again sony have missed the loudness trick.
After reading GSM arenas review of the C5 ultra and the M5 saying without headphones the volume levels were 'excellently high' and with headphones they fell to below average on the C5 and fell on the M5 too but it was so high on the M5 to start off with that that it still remained a good volume. So this means that the M5 is louder than the Z5 range, I had high hopes for the Z line then they tested the Z5C and it just got a average.
According to GSM Arena.
Audio quality has its ups and downs
The Sony Xperia Z5 Compact did a very good job in the first part of our audio quality test, where it's connected to an active external amplifier. The scores it got were great top to bottom but it only matched them with an average volume level so we can't quite call it perfect.
Plugging in a pair of headphones harm the stereo crosstalk but it remained decent, but it also introduced a bit of frequency response deviation and brought the volume down a notch. Not too bad of a showing, but certainly not one worth bragging about.
I can't consider myself an audiophile but I will say the Z5 audio is an.improvement over the Z5 in both clarity and volume. It doesn't approach ZTE Axon level of quality and HTC M9 volume but it is adequate for the casual listener. I have dsee hx switched on which disables all other audio settings.
how is the volume in z5 compare to z3
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how is the volume in z5 compare to z3
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louder than Z3 but imo could be louder yet still
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louder than Z3 but imo could be louder yet still
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Exactly, well stated.
Coming from the Z1 it's a massive improvement on just about every level: Cleaner, wider and louder. It's very good, I'd say - I've certainly enjoyed listening to music on it very much!
"Loud enough"? How loud do you need it to be? Any louder than it is and I'm sure you'd hurt your hearing: it's plenty loud.
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Coming from the Z1 it's a massive improvement on just about every level: Cleaner, wider and louder. It's very good, I'd say - I've certainly enjoyed listening to music on it very much!
"Loud enough"? How loud do you need it to be? Any louder than it is and I'm sure you'd hurt your hearing: it's plenty loud.
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Tbh there are many phones alot louder than the Z5 and the whole sony range and people are not complaining. There are phones from HTC, Iphone, Note 4/5/Edge Plus and especially Xiaomi and Meizu that are alot louder.
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Tbh there are many phones alot louder than the Z5 and the whole sony range and people are not complaining. There are phones from HTC, Iphone, Note 4/5/Edge Plus and especially Xiaomi and Meizu that are alot louder.
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Of that I have no doubt but do people put those phones to max volume? Do they need to? The ability and necessity are two separate things.
The Z5 is plenty loud for just about any headphone need, so far as I can make out. I'd certainly never put it to max.
Allright, so I purchased the graphite black Z5 yesterday. I have done some quick listening to the audio out of the jack through my ATH IM50 in ear monitors and haven't broken in the hardware yet. But I can definitely hear a difference from the Z3. All over the sound is very clear, it seems like a good separation and I can definitely get some really smooth low tones and crisp higher tones as well. I haven't been fooling around with the EQ yet. But feel like I don't need to.
About the loudness, I feel it is louder than the Z3 and very much loud enough to run a pair of good IEM's like the IM50's. I am listening now and have the volume two down from maximum. Probably won't be as loud with some big headphones. But any a person with a little self respect will have a headphone amp for that purpose. :good:
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Of that I have no doubt but do people put those phones to max volume? Do they need to? The ability and necessity are two separate things.
The Z5 is plenty loud for just about any headphone need, so far as I can make out. I'd certainly never put it to max.
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Fair enough for me its the bigger expensive headphones that make the difference with less expensive headphones like in ear or on ear it is never loud enough, in a busy street i still can hear noise around me.
I know some people who do have them on max volume definitely. I always had my note 4 on max volume and my HTC M7 and my 6S but only with lesser expensive headphones on headphones £200 and over no need to but even when are not at max they are still louder than Z5 at Max volume. Each to their own at the end of the day but sometimes its not always practical for me to carry around my larger headphones so I use in ear ones than I can just put in my pocket.
Hi,
I'm also trying to squeeze perfect sound from android. I use this portable DAC
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/audioquest-dragonfly-v12-usb-dac/
via USB OTG cable. For playback I use "USB audio player pro". It can stream very high resolution audio files. At the moment I'm listening music on Audio technica ATH M50x headphones.
Sound with external DAC is a way better than directly from audio jack
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Tbh there are many phones alot louder than the Z5 and the whole sony range and people are not complaining. There are phones from HTC, Iphone, Note 4/5/Edge Plus and especially Xiaomi and Meizu that are alot louder.
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That's unfortunate. One of the reasons I sent back my iPhone 6s, and opted to get a Z5 Compact is because I didn't think the sound of the 6s was much of a step up from my iPhone 4s. I was hoping the Z5 would be louder and fuller, especially for in-ear headphones at the gym. Might just be the headphones I've been using though. Maybe an upgrade in that department would resolve any potential issues I might have with the Z5.
I use sennheiser mm50 ip in ear phones with poweramp set to rock preset and to me the sound is nice crisp quality at loud enough volume levels
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@TordFuglstad & @Timaustin2000 I've been enjoying your camera works (on 'that' thread) very much. Maybe you guys could post on the 'regular' photo thread at times
Don't get me wrong, guys. Before dropping > $100 on a pair of cans, maybe an 'audiophile' should get a cheap $50 DAC first. But it's not very convenient - we all know. That's why I'm looking at LDAC for the first time (wireless SQ is usually terrible compared to wired). LDAC could still be over-hyped, I'm willing to give it shot for the first time. But I can't find too many LDAC headphones to choose from. Any suggestions?
I read that there is no custom DAC in the Z5 (vs. Z3), but they added LDAC support. Unfortunately, I can't find almost any headphones that support it. I was really hoping they would have added it to the SBH bluetooth line by now.
How does the audio quality compare to HTC Butterfly s (which I have now) or I9505 Galaxy S4? What about HTC M9 or iPhone 6?
I take GSMArena's results with a grain of salt. I bought the Butterfly s partly based on their review saying the volume was loud and that there was no distortion. Unfortunately, while the audio quality is great at medium-high volumes the bass distorts above 12/15, and there is hissing with IEMs.
My questions are 1) do these hiss? and 2) do they distort with bass? (test track would be Daft Punk - Touch)
I'm a hardcore SONY audiophile, and while the Z5 is fantastic, the Walkman ZX2 is still by FAR my favorite mobile music player when coupled with the XBA-Z5 in-earphones ( made in Japan ) and/or Z7 headphones ( made in Japan) by Sony,
followed in close 2nd place by the newer less pricey ZX100 Walkman, which is a step up from the A series.
Lol even the A series is stomping on the Z5. No point to compare it to the zx2/1/100
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