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External USB DAC (Moto X Force)

So, has anyone tried to connect a DAC (Digital to Analog Converter)
I just ordered a FIIO Q1 From Amazon, and just wondering if it will work at all.
Thanks in advance.

MuyKurioso said:
So, has anyone tried to connect a DAC (Digital to Analog Converter)
I just ordered a FIIO Q1 From Amazon, and just wondering if it will work at all.
Thanks in advance.
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I tried a co-worker's DACmagic the other day and it certainly worked flawlessly and transparently (no fuss, just plugged it in and it diverted audio instantly).
However, I couldn't notice any difference at all between straight output from X Force and from the DAC back-to-back (as far as possible) with my Sony MDR-100AAP headphones.
I'm assuming that this reflects well on the X Force in-built DAC rather than poorly on the DACmagic (given universal praise of that USB DAC as far as I can find)

chaosdefinesorder said:
I tried a co-worker's DACmagic the other day and it certainly worked flawlessly and transparently (no fuss, just plugged it in and it diverted audio instantly).
However, I couldn't notice any difference at all between straight output from X Force and from the DAC back-to-back (as far as possible) with my Sony MDR-100AAP headphones.
I'm assuming that this reflects well on the X Force in-built DAC rather than poorly on the DACmagic (given universal praise of that USB DAC as far as I can find)
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What kind of files did you use? The main reason i wanted the DAC is for lossless files through Tidal. So, if the built in DAC on our Force is that good, guess I'll be returning Fiio's DAC.

MuyKurioso said:
What kind of files did you use? The main reason i wanted the DAC is for lossless files through Tidal. So, if the built in DAC on our Force is that good, guess I'll be returning Fiio's DAC.
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that is a small caveat; I tried it with the "high quality" download from Play Music, so not lossless, however I still stand by there being barely any perceptible difference - particularly considering the DACmagic (and others) bills itself as improving even "SD" audio...
I would consider myself "picky about sound quality" rather than full-on audiophile, but I know what to listen out for - and what I (personally) consider good sound quality - and I would say the X Force headphone output with the MDR-100AAP sounds great to me. Better than the headphone output on the SoundBlaster X-Fi Ti in my PC, actually. In other words, I don't consider the difference with the X Force to be worth ~$100 of USB DAC
Then again, I'm also sceptical of the difference between high bit-rate MP3/AAC/OGG vs. FLAC in the first place, so maybe I'm just not the right kind of person :silly:
Of course I'd recommend you try back-to-back with and without the FIIO when you get it and decide for yourself (presumably you'd do that anyway!)! After seeing the size and weight of the DACmagic (USB powered, no battery!), I was considering getting one for myself until I tried it and determined that it just wasn't worth the £50 to £100 they typically retail for! I may change my mind in the future, though...

chaosdefinesorder said:
I tried a co-worker's DACmagic the other day and it certainly worked flawlessly and transparently (no fuss, just plugged it in and it diverted audio instantly).
However, I couldn't notice any difference at all between straight output from X Force and from the DAC back-to-back (as far as possible) with my Sony MDR-100AAP headphones.
I'm assuming that this reflects well on the X Force in-built DAC rather than poorly on the DACmagic (given universal praise of that USB DAC as far as I can find)
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chaosdefinesorder said:
that is a small caveat; I tried it with the "high quality" download from Play Music, so not lossless, however I still stand by there being barely any perceptible difference - particularly considering the DACmagic (and others) bills itself as improving even "SD" audio...
I would consider myself "picky about sound quality" rather than full-on audiophile, but I know what to listen out for - and what I (personally) consider good sound quality - and I would say the X Force headphone output with the MDR-100AAP sounds great to me. Better than the headphone output on the SoundBlaster X-Fi Ti in my PC, actually. In other words, I don't consider the difference with the X Force to be worth ~$100 of USB DAC
Then again, I'm also sceptical of the difference between high bit-rate MP3/AAC/OGG vs. FLAC in the first place, so maybe I'm just not the right kind of person :silly:
Of course I'd recommend you try back-to-back with and without the FIIO when you get it and decide for yourself (presumably you'd do that anyway!)! After seeing the size and weight of the DACmagic (USB powered, no battery!), I was considering getting one for myself until I tried it and determined that it just wasn't worth the £50 to £100 they typically retail for! I may change my mind in the future, though...
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Well, call me crazy but I do hear the difference between Spotify and Tidal, in terms of streaming services, so i guess I'll update this post when my Fiio arrives.
Also, did you use the DACmagic as an amp, or as DAC with USB OTG, or both amp and DAC?

MuyKurioso said:
Well, call me crazy but I do hear the difference between Spotify and Tidal, in terms of streaming services, so i guess I'll update this post when my Fiio arrives.
Also, did you use the DACmagic as an amp, or as DAC with USB OTG, or both amp and DAC?
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I guess for me it's mostly a case of the difference not being worth the cost increase!
The DACmagix XS (the specific model) is a DAC - as in it only has micro-USB on one end and 3.5mm jack on the other, nothing else other than volume up/down buttons!
I've been tempted to try Tidal premium for a while, but again the cost/worth tug-o-war comes in vs. my current only £7.99 per month for Play Music...

Just got an X Force in the UK and can confirm it works with my Chord Mojo DAC under Marshmallow.

HTC U11 3.5mm headphone adaptor with built in DAC compatible with Samsung S8?

Hi
I'm looking at options to get better sound on my S8. Does anyone know if the HTC U11 3.5mm adaptor with the built in DAC will be compatible with the S8 and if it will improve audio listening through spotify?
Has anyone tried this?
The adaptor is only £10 to buy so could be a cheap way to get better audio.
I'm not interested in rooting as I find samsung pay and secure folder useful so Viper isn't an option for me.

DJGREEN1980 said:
Hi
I'm looking at options to get better sound on my S8. Does anyone know if the HTC U11 3.5mm adaptor with the built in DAC will be compatible with the S8 and if it will improve audio listening through spotify?
Has anyone tried this?
The adaptor is only £10 to buy so could be a cheap way to get better audio.
I'm not interested in rooting as I find samsung pay and secure folder useful so Viper isn't an option for me.
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Read post #7
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/help/usb-audio-samsung-s8-usb-c-to-3-5mm-t3631827

I currently use a Fiio E11 headphone amp. Its a little bit of bulk but the sound quality is night and day different. I am in the market for a new one soon as this thing is a good few years old and taken a beating, so I don't know if there is something better / smaller out now, but as and when I start looking I will update with any cool options I find

Funny, only reason I didn't switch from HTC 10 to U11 (and am considering S8) is the lack of normal headphone jack and that freaking dongle, lol
Sent from my HTC 10 using XDA-Developers Legacy app

Just did a side by side comparison of S8 and HTC 10, on the same source, using the same Neutron player with the same settings (after calibrating S8 to my ears). Sad story - S8 is noticeably worse...
Sent from my HTC 10 using XDA-Developers Legacy app

pupochek said:
Just did a side by side comparison of S8 and HTC 10, on the same source, using the same Neutron player with the same settings (after calibrating S8 to my ears). Sad story - S8 is noticeably worse...
Sent from my HTC 10 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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What are you using earphones or headphones? S8 like the U11 + adapter can't drive big headphones big the S8 will drive a pair of KZ earphones like a charm

vegetaleb said:
What are you using earphones or headphones? S8 like the U11 + adapter can't drive big headphones big the S8 will drive a pair of KZ earphones like a charm
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Sony in ear headphones (similar to Sony MDR-XB90EX )

I just wish I could get my FiiO Q1 to work with my S8. I've tried the included USB C to USB adaptor that came with the phone, an aftermarket one, and a USB C to micro USB and none of them have worked. I might have to try this dongle.

OnePlus 6T Dongle Audio Quality

Has anyone tried to compare the audio quality of OP6 via headphones jack with that of OP6T via the dongle? Just trying to find out if OnePlus uses another DAC chip in Type C port or the one in SD845.

zhenliang1102 said:
Has anyone tried to compare the audio quality of OP6 via headphones jack with that of OP6T via the dongle? Just trying to find out if OnePlus uses another DAC chip in Type C port or the one in SD845.
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The Type C dongle is passive the DAC is in the phone and not the dongle whihch is dissapointing and the quality is around the same as OP6 better off trying to source a 1st gen Google dongle or find a brand that makes a good one.

liam_davenport said:
The Type C dongle is passive the DAC is in the phone and not the dongle whihch is dissapointing and the quality is around the same as OP6 better off trying to source a 1st gen Google dongle or find a brand that makes a good one.
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Exactly. The audio quality out of the dongle is so disappointing. It makes my FiiO F9 Pro soundstage sound narrower that it's supposed to. That's why I'm currently deciding whether if I should buy a FiiO Q1 MK II. But I never tried any of these amps before, I don't know if there would be a substantial improvement over the dongle

zhenliang1102 said:
Exactly. The audio quality out of the dongle is so disappointing. It makes my FiiO F9 Pro soundstage sound narrower that it's supposed to. That's why I'm currently deciding whether if I should buy a FiiO Q1 MK II. But I never tried any of these amps before, I don't know if there would be a substantial improvement over the dongle
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Apparently this is a good Dongle was recoended to me by another user on here, Odyssey Type-C to 3.5mm DAC dongle $10 Should improve the quality a bit and be better for the amp you mentioned

liam_davenport said:
Apparently this is a good Dongle was recoended to me by another user on here, Odyssey Type-C to 3.5mm DAC dongle $10 Should improve the quality a bit and be better for the amp you mentioned
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If there is a DAC in the phone, does plugging in a cable like this (which as a DAC built-in) tell the phone to send a non-processed signal straight out to the cable (so that the cable can do the d/a conversion)???

Nosferatu. said:
If there is a DAC in the phone, does plugging in a cable like this (which as a DAC built-in) tell the phone to send a non-processed signal straight out to the cable (so that the cable can do the d/a conversion)???
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I'm not entirely sure how it works but the Type C bullets by OnePlus have a custom DAC in them and they're made for the OP6T

Nosferatu. said:
If there is a DAC in the phone, does plugging in a cable like this (which as a DAC built-in) tell the phone to send a non-processed signal straight out to the cable (so that the cable can do the d/a conversion)???
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Either that, or turn on OTG

Nosferatu. said:
If there is a DAC in the phone, does plugging in a cable like this (which as a DAC built-in) tell the phone to send a non-processed signal straight out to the cable (so that the cable can do the d/a conversion)???
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Finally got my FiiO Q1 MK II and I'm back with an answer. I don't even have to turn on OTG for usb audio to work. It detects the DAC and it automatically recognise the DAC as headphones

I'm using Firefly Dac. Is there reason why it sound lower?
zhenliang1102 said:
Finally got my FiiO Q1 MK II and I'm back with an answer. I don't even have to turn on OTG for usb audio to work. It detects the DAC and it automatically recognise the DAC as headphones
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Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk

x1tymez said:
I'm using Firefly Dac. Is there reason why it sound lower?
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I have no idea. This is my first time trying out external DAC

zhenliang1102 said:
Finally got my FiiO Q1 MK II and I'm back with an answer. I don't even have to turn on OTG for usb audio to work. It detects the DAC and it automatically recognise the DAC as headphones
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Is there a way to confirm which DAC it's using? I'm not doubting it's passing audio from phone to your headphones but is the D/A conversion still being done on the phone and sending an analog signal thru your active cord OR it the cord actively doing the D/A conversion? Is there a way to tell?

Nosferatu. said:
Is there a way to confirm which DAC it's using? I'm not doubting it's passing audio from phone to your headphones but is the D/A conversion still being done on the phone and sending an analog signal thru your active cord OR it the cord actively doing the D/A conversion? Is there a way to tell?
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I read it in a Reddit thread where it was mentioned that if you're using a dongle with a built-in DAC, it will use the DAC in the dongle instead of the one in the phone. I'd assume it's the same for other DAC as well. https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/9uu3jy/oneplus_6t_has_an_analog_dac_inside_the_usbc_port/
Edit: After testing for many times (I hope the port life won't reduce after those tests), I can conclude that the phone is using the external DAC. Noticeable difference in the soundstage

Then theoretically op6t with fiio k1 should work, right? I have a pair of Sennheiser HD 598

I don't use any external DAC. I stream in the car, and I use V4A for audio processing, and it sounds incredible.

Get yourself one of these https://www.nexum-design.com/aqua - couldn't recommend them enough. I have one and it is absolutely the best 'dongle' you can get. Battery does take a hit because of the integrated amp, but well worth it...

External DAC

Hi Guys;
Want to talk of the external DACs.
As we do not have jack on our phone, here a little list of compatible DAC.
Ibasso DC01 ~50$
Review
Unfortunatelly Ibasso says that there's some compatibility issues with Galaxy Series including Note.
It works very well on mine. N975F
Ibasso DC02 ("unbalanced version" of the DC01) ~50$
SMSL Idea ~85$
Review
EarStudio ES100 ~99$
Review
Audioquest DragonFly Cobalt ~299$
Review
Hidizs Sonata HD-D ~30$
Review
I've an Ibasso DC01 and it's wonderfull. I never had a sound like this with a smartphone.
Do you use one too ?

I've been using a smsl idea dac with this phone. It's pretty solid and doesn't drain to much battery.

This was a SOLID buy, IMO. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078H4YD2L/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

roaduardo said:
This was a SOLID buy, IMO. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078H4YD2L/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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+1 for this DAC. I'm using it with Shure 845 earphones, connected with a balanced 2.5mm adapter listening to TIDAL Hi-Fi/Master music saved to my device. Simply superb! i travel 43+ weeks a year and this music combination makes the long commutes (3+hour flights) easier to tolerate.

billy_boolean said:
Hi Guys;
Want to talk of the external DACs.
I've an Ibasso DC01 and it's wonderfull. I never had a sound like this with a smartphone.
Unfortunatelly Ibasso says that there's some compatibility issues with Galaxy Series including Note.
It works very well on mine. N975F
Do you use one too ?
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What compatibility issues? I too am using Note 10+ and iBasso DC01, streaming Tidal via USB Audio Player Pro, and all is working very well. Very happy with the DC01 sound

This has been a great option since I got my note10+ https://www.amazon.com/FiiO-BTR3-Bluetooth-Receiver-Portable/dp/B07SM53586/ref=pd_cp_23_1?pd_rd_w=nIKPc&pf_rd_p=ef4dc990-a9ca-4945-ae0b-f8d549198ed6&pf_rd_r=WXJ9NFZBTP7ND1NBBHKF&pd_rd_r=11e0eb83-d4f3-4773-a5a1-9d5b441cabda&pd_rd_wg=bAgbx&pd_rd_i=B07FVN14FH&refRID=WXJ9NFZBTP7ND1NBBHKF&th=1

wwyjoe said:
What compatibility issues? I too am using Note 10+ and iBasso DC01, streaming Tidal via USB Audio Player Pro, and all is working very well. Very happy with the DC01 sound
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It seems that it simply doesn't work on a large number of Galaxy devices.

wwyjoe said:
What compatibility issues? I too am using Note 10+ and iBasso DC01, streaming Tidal via USB Audio Player Pro, and all is working very well. Very happy with the DC01 sound
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What note are you using, exynos or sd?

warren2781 said:
What note are you using, exynos or sd?
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Exynos

warren2781 said:
What note are you using, exynos or sd?
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Exynos
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Exynos too.

I wonder if it's a snapdragon thing. But like I said I'm using an smsl idea dac and it works wonderfully. I'm tempted to order the ibasso dc01 but I can't find it for anything lower than $75usd. I have the the snapdragon note.

warren2781 said:
I wonder if it's a snapdragon thing. But like I said I'm using an smsl idea dac and it works wonderfully. I'm tempted to order the ibasso dc01 but I can't find it for anything lower than $75usd. I have the the snapdragon note.
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SMSL Idea seems to be a great value.
Just read a review.

Audioquest Dragonfly Cobalt user here. Works wonderful.

Samzebian said:
This has been a great option since I got my note10+ https://www.amazon.com/FiiO-BTR3-Bluetooth-Receiver-Portable/dp/B07SM53586/ref=pd_cp_23_1?pd_rd_w=nIKPc&pf_rd_p=ef4dc990-a9ca-4945-ae0b-f8d549198ed6&pf_rd_r=WXJ9NFZBTP7ND1NBBHKF&pd_rd_r=11e0eb83-d4f3-4773-a5a1-9d5b441cabda&pd_rd_wg=bAgbx&pd_rd_i=B07FVN14FH&refRID=WXJ9NFZBTP7ND1NBBHKF&th=1
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I use the Fiio BTR3 as well, great little DAC/AMP especially once you enable the LDAC codec in dev options and stream HiFi audio with a source like TIDAL. Paired it with 1MORE Quad Driver earbuds that run 32Ohm impedance which the BTR3 is able to output.

scheelwd said:
I use the Fiio BTR3 as well, great little DAC/AMP especially once you enable the LDAC codec in dev options and stream HiFi audio with a source like TIDAL. Paired it with 1MORE Quad Driver earbuds that run 32Ohm impedance which the BTR3 is able to output.
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Yup, although I am using Etymotic Er4XR with this. I unfortunately am using Apple Music, stuck in their ecosystem. But sounds great so far with LDAC!
Question, do you have the ability to change the LDAC settings to highest quality in dev options? I tried but it keeps reverting to best effort?

I have Hidizs Sonata using exynos model. Best sound Ive ever heard using my Westone W60's. Even better than my previous LG V30. Large soundstage and very loud. I didn't expect this but I'm very happy about it.

I found a cheap $7 adapter/DAC and it plays nicely with my KZ earbuds (supports 24bit/384). Before I was looking into the UP4, BTR5, etc. But for now I'll hold off buying more expensive gear.

d.cortez said:
+1 for this DAC. I'm using it with Shure 845 earphones, connected with a balanced 2.5mm adapter listening to TIDAL Hi-Fi/Master music saved to my device. Simply superb! i travel 43+ weeks a year and this music combination makes the long commutes (3+hour flights) easier to tolerate.
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I have a pair of se845s as well. I just bought the Shure usb-c to mmcx cable which obviously has a DAC built in. It's a beautiful thing. Sound is perfectly balanced with minimal hissing (which was a problem for me using other DACs on these sensitive monitors). I was struggling until I got these, now I don't care if a phone has a headphone jack or not.

roaduardo said:
This was a SOLID buy, IMO. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078H4YD2L/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I just got mine today. However, I can't figure out how to just use it as a USB DAC. The input is just using bluetooth from my Note. What am I missing?

My dragonfly red and note 10+
I will be adding the usb audio player pro. Any other advice? I will be getting my 1MORE triple driver earbuds tomorrow. Have the beats solo3 (did I get that right? They wired earbuds for android...) Cant wait to see how this works...I like high quality sound, you could say I am a beginner audiophile...
Ps my signature is old old old, you can tell how long it's been since I had time to post here at xda...!)

Usb-c to 3.5mm earphone adapter.

Hello everybody.
I would like to buy an adapter from usb-c to 3.5mm earphone plug. I see it is a little bit more complicated than I thought- There are adapters with DAC chip,without a chip,others won't fit Samsung,etc.
I just want an adapter because of the lack of 3.5mm socket and keep listening music like I did so far. I would like to have the option to use this plug with none-Samsung phones ,too.
What kind of adapter and brands do you recommend to buy ?
Thanks in advance,
Arye

Do a search, this has been discussed since the firsts days of the note 10 forum

I did a search.Did not find anything.

I bought the Samsung adaptor, which seems to work well.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07VC4QKNZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have a very good experience with iBasso DC02
https://www.amazon.de/iBasso-DC02-Kabel-Kopfh%C3%B6rer-Anschluss/dp/B07WDLJP1Y/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=ibasso&qid=1589538908&sr=8-6
I use it with my Etymotic HF5 and Beyerdynamic DT880 and the sound is superb - by far better then what DT880 can deliver.
My music source is mostly Tidal MQA via USB Audio Player PRO.
Excellent price to performance ratio!

Just an hour ago, I received an adapter.
https://aliexpress.ru/item/4000602754936.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.471d33edcTsq2f
Good quality and stunning price. Checked on the car radio

bruno.trudo said:
I have a very good experience with iBasso DC02
https://www.amazon.de/iBasso-DC02-K...child=1&keywords=ibasso&qid=1589538908&sr=8-6
I use it with my Etymotic HF5 and Beyerdynamic DT880 and the sound is superb - by far better then what DT880 can deliver.
My music source is mostly Tidal MQA via USB Audio Player PRO.
Excellent price to performance ratio!
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I use this too with USB audio player pro. Much better than samsung adapter.

I bought this one and it works great: https://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Type-C...var=513188154222&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

abramadhi said:
I use this too with USB audio player pro. Much better than samsung adapter.
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I'm not surprised, given that it's 10x the price of the Samsung one!

Samsung's is flimsy... it doesn't inspire longevity confidence.
The great Samsung flagship missing 3.5 mm jack fubar continues... lame.

I advise you to acquire an adapter that allows you to charge the phone at the same time.
So an adapter with double inlet, USB-C for charging and 3.5mm Audio
Like this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FR1GB4J/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A10QS29P19KJR4&psc=1

Tekflow said:
I advise you to acquire an adapter that allows you to charge the phone at the same time.
So an adapter with double inlet, USB-C for charging and 3.5mm Audio
Like this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FR1GB4J/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A10QS29P19KJR4&psc=1
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It says it's not compatible with the Note 10, S10 etc.

Yes, you're right. I didn't notice that, even though I don't understand how it is not compatible.
I use Wordima USB-C to 3.5mm Charger Adapter (https://www.amazon.com/WORDIMA-Headphone-Charger-Adapter-Compatible/dp/B07TBKG7N4), currently unavailable.
But, here are 2 other devices, compatible with the Note 10::
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Y87QXTQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A21TE5CLHZDYA7&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08279WBMM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3KOFPH6N9TJWO&psc=1

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Yes, you're right. I didn't notice that, even though I don't understand how it is not compatible.
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Presumably because it does not incorporate a DAC. The only adaptors that work with the Note 10+ are those with a DAC in them.

Tekflow said:
I advise you to acquire an adapter that allows you to charge the phone at the same time.
So an adapter with double inlet, USB-C for charging and 3.5mm Audio
Like this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FR1GB4J/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A10QS29P19KJR4&psc=1
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Philip said:
Presumably because it does not incorporate a DAC. The only adaptors that work with the Note 10+ are those with a DAC in them.
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Yeah it's tricky. Worse no clue how good that one is.
It was much better with a known internal phone DAC and the 3.5 mm jack. The Note 4 was a better audio platform. WTF?
Samsung really dropped the ball Special Olympics style...
Whatever the dongle DAC is I doubt it's a 32 bit Burr-Brown. Ha!
The warning:
https://www.techarp.com/mobile/samsung-galaxy-note-10-dac/
Buyer's guide:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/best-usb-c-headphone-adapters/?amp