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Nokia is going to Hell surely
Complete article here :
http://tech2.in.com/news/smartphone.../298352?utm_source=nlmorning&utm_medium=email
Everyone knows android is boss. No one can beat google . .. it's a fact. .
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Hmm the ad isn't very good. Which is the other phone? How exactly does the Lumia beat it? And honestly I don't think humiliating owners of other phones is a good way of perusading them to switch. I know Samsung pokes at Apple in its ads but in a much lighter way.
Nokia can say all they want but the company its a sinking ship as we all know it. Their stock fall 19% after the release of highly anticipated Lumia 900. lol
Personally, I dont think Lumia 900 is competing with SGN as it has much lower spec. It is aiming less technical crowd who cant afford iphone. WP maybe fast at doing specific function, but I doubt it is going to matter until they have a fully developed App store. Unfortunately, it may not happen at all since we already have Andiod and ios. All Apple has to do is pricing previous generation iphone at a discount or introduce a lower model. In reality, it so much easy to tweak os and make certain task fast than building a fully developed App market. That is why MS is offering up to $60k for dev who is interested in WP app.
I went to two "smoked by windows" event in US. Most of ppl who attend dont give a @ss about either Nokia or WP, they all their for the free phone so they can put it ebay. WP maybe fast at doing specific function, but I doubt it is going to matter until they have a fully developed App store. Unfortunately, it may not happen at all since we already have Andiod and ios.
Samsung has no right to whine about this when they did the same to apple with "you're a barista" commercial
plus if they have balls then let them officially acknowledge the fact that many gnotes have problems such as banding, clipping,color shifting, etc
even Sony confirmed that their experia s had display problems and that customers can get their devices replaced..
btw Nokia even gave customers a $100 rebate for a software bug with lumia 900!!
now sony and Nokia were decent enough to accept the fact while Samsung remains silent even though they are aware of the issues
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who will buy that **** just for faster geotagging and uploading photos to fb
Just cuz fb is the only app for wp phones pfft nokia suxx
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Nokia has many followers in Africa/India and some other middle countries. I think they might do well there but they are loosing grounds in Europe and they still have to make a name in the US.
Android still rocks and I definitely don't think anything will change. Once you use a windows phone and then compare it to the ease of your's friend/relative's Android phone, I don't think you'll make the same mistake twice for your next phone!
Nokia will definitely rock the phone world with their 41mp camera Nokia 808 PureView. This is the device many people are eagerly waiting down the corner and there could be a shift in the trend soon with that beast......
Time to change.........the girlfriend !!!! not the phone. Android is by far a better ecosystem than IOS or Windows.
Such a dumb video clip. lol!!!
I wouldn't say that posting to facebook is grounds for blowing anything away.
Ha Ha, Wallies.
I have owned a Nokia since the 2110i and I strongly supported Nokia untill recently. When Nokia decided to use Windows Mobile as their OS, I decided to vote with my money. I switched to Samsung and I am very pleased with this. It doesn't matter what Nokia or Apple or any one else for that matter does. You as the consumer have the control. Hurt them where it hurts most. Don't support them and don't buy their products,and tell everyone that you come in to contact with. I also don't buy Sony products for their beligerant attitude and monopoly.
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Personally i dont think the nokia lumia is worth a thread here... i mean.. seriously?.. lol
I think its funny how all the manufacturers slate each other, its just good advertising. I wonder if you can go into the shop and ask the windows phone to beat your test against your phone. Like play a hd video on the screen in its actual resolution 1280 x 720 p, oh wait. Or play street fighter ex plus alpha on you 50 inch tv using a ps3 controller using the phone oh wait! All phones have there strengths and weaknesses but I sooner have a phone that can do all the functions than do a select few really fast.
According to latest financial news reports, within next 7 quarters ,nokias cash reserves will be over and Nokia would be blown away from the face of earth!
they've already got the first blow as bloomberg announces Samsung, may have shipped 92 million mobile phones, surpassing Nokia’s 83 million units for the first three months of 2012;the 9-million gap ending Nokia’s 14-year reign as the largest global mobile phone maker.
That video is fake as hell... no more words to tell..
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In fact, Nokia is a sunseting brand.
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By watching this video. I am going to buy Nokia Lumia and get get rid of my GNote.
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So sad that they release this kind of video.
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Come on, give Nokia a break. They are already losing money and they still bother pestering us with the advertisement. Be nice.
Nokia is just trying to save face.
Mercy to the defeated is a sign of nobility.
I was reading an article on Android Police the other day entitled Why Android's Greatest Threat Isn't Apple - It's Microsoft.
I think the article has a lot of merit - the author could quite well be spot on.
I don't know about anyone else but I've been so focused on the Google and Apple recently that I didn't even stop to think about where Microsoft has been lately and what they've been up to.
Everyday there is something in the news about Google and/or Apple - their new products, services, another lawsuit or otherwise - there is always something. As for Microsoft, in comparison there is virtually nothing - or at least nothing of great interest.
All of sudden, out of no where, Microsoft announces the release of Surface. A day or two later, Windows Phone 8.
Surface, from what I've seen and read about it so far looks quite promising. Whether it's an iPad killer, or even whether it will make any dint at all in the tablet market is yet to be seen but in any case, I think it stands a good chance.
Windows Phone 8 is what's really grabbing my attention. The more I read about it the more intrigued I am to actually get my hands on one and test it out.
I've been a die hand Android/Google fan for a few years now and absolutely love Google's products and services - I never thought I would be dragged from them. There is something about Windows Phone 8, and even Microsoft in general recently that is causing me to pay great attention to what they are up to.
Do you think that Microsoft is a force to be reckoned with? If they play the game correctly, do you think we could see Microsoft taking on Apple and Google with brute force?
Obviously Microsoft is going to have to work damn hard to put even a dint in the tablet and smart phone market at the moment but if executed correctly, I think they have real potential to seriously cause some damage and shake up the market to a great extent.
I'm just throwing a few random thoughts and ideas out there. I could be way off and the release of Surface and Windows Phone 8 wont make one bit of difference at all. Time will tell I guess.
Your thoughts?
They're screwing over everyone who recently bought into them, namely the Lumia 900 crowd. I can't believe they're "starting over" just like after they killed Windows Mobile. The public outrage would be enormous if Android did such a thing. Announcing a new software version and then saying that ZERO previous devices, even very recent ones, would get the update is insane. MS shoots themselves in the foot once again, right after things started to look promising. They just can't do anything right in the mobile market.
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They're screwing over everyone who recently bought into them, namely the Lumia 900 crowd. I can't believe they're "starting over" just like after they killed Windows Mobile. The public outrage would be enormous if Android did such a thing. Announcing a new software version and then saying that ZERO previous devices, even very recent ones, would get the update is insane. MS shoots themselves in the foot once again, right after things started to look promising. They just can't do anything right in the mobile market.
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I totally agree with this. As a show of good faith, MS should allow early adopters to trade phones when the new ones come out. Something like $100 credit for the Lumia 710, $200 for the 800, $300 for the 900 etc.
But they would never do that.
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They're screwing over everyone who recently bought into them, namely the Lumia 900 crowd. I can't believe they're "starting over" just like after they killed Windows Mobile. The public outrage would be enormous if Android did such a thing. Announcing a new software version and then saying that ZERO previous devices, even very recent ones, would get the update is insane. MS shoots themselves in the foot once again, right after things started to look promising. They just can't do anything right in the mobile market.
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The only thing I don't agree is with the android part. Ics is on so few phones. Mostly only new ones are getting (especially moto phones). Unofficially yeah a lot of android phones have gotten Ics but officially not much.
I'm waiting for an mobile os as good as a desktop/laptop os. The hardware is better then my first real computer (I mean my windows me my first computer was runing windows 3.1 on a 486).
I would love to see that but for now I can only dream.
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I think Microsft is in full panic mode. The Iphone/Ipad and Android devices have shown the average consumer that they dont need Windows any more. Microsoft is scrambling to unify their interface so that they can hang on to curent customers. WP7/7.5 was a stopgap mesure to introduce the UI but fill the void while they readied Windows 8. unfourtunatly it might already be too late as the consumer market moves to Android and IOS and Windows 7 is looking like its going to be XP's second comming. (corporate use which is just starting to adopt win 7 will hang on to it for the next 15 years like XP) Windows 8 will just kinda pop in and out like Vista did. wich is good for the consumer becaus finally after 20 years of windows being the only game in town we will have choice. the big thing i think Microsoft missed and Google is just getting is the the secret to IOS's sccess was the content not the device itself. Apple got it all going in the 2003 with Itunes music store.
I used to be a WM man.....
....Until they stopped supporting it, then I went over to Android and never looked back, I would never trust Microsoft again, I can see the same thing happening again if they deem there is not enough profit in it for them.
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The only thing I don't agree is with the android part. Ics is on so few phones. Mostly only new ones are getting (especially moto phones). Unofficially yeah a lot of android phones have gotten Ics but officially not much.
I'm waiting for an mobile os as good as a desktop/laptop os. The hardware is better then my first real computer (I mean my windows me my first computer was runing windows 3.1 on a 486).
I would love to see that but for now I can only dream.
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The point I was emphasizing was that MS abandoned literally every previous phone. The Lumia was a flagship that just came out a few months ago. Thats like the HTC One X not getting a new software update if it were to come the next few months. Anyone who recently signed a contract for a WP7 I feel sincerely sorry for them.
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I agree that Microsoft has made some mistakes, especially with the upgrade fiasco because that was one of the claimed benefits to Microsoft, that like apple Microsoft controlled the update process and surely if you bought a phone you would see the newest update.
Although that doesn't bother me so much as I haven't gotten a wp7 device to get shafted. Wp8 does look intriguing. Especially the the amount that the mobile and pc operating share code. Hell directX support would make games awesome. However, one thing that after going from windows mobile and android that I don't see myself doing without, is the possibility to side load and use a file explorer. Without that I don't see myself using a smart phone is without that. It's just less pc like to me. If that was possible, Wp8 would look very promising. But heres to Microsoft riding Apple's coattails.
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I have been intrigued by windows phone 7 for a while now but I held back from getting one for one reason...windows 8 or whatever they were gonna call it. Basically I wanted to sit back and see how they were gonna further develop the platform to real big maturity.
The os itself looks really promising and smooth and has a lot of potential. I love the idea of live tiles and the metro UI. I'm quite sure I will be getting a windows 8 device and it won't be a PC first off either! Perhaps a tablet of smartphone.
I think windows is indeed perhaps the biggest threat to android in the long term. Unless apple really bring some innovation and make some changes to that plain boring iOS user interface. But yes windows phone 8 looks awesome and has loads and loads of potential.
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I feel that android and iOS in the phone industry will always be stable, people don't need to photoshop something or do something that requires a laptop or desktop on their cellphones. I do however believe android's and iOS's greatest threats is windows 8 on tablets whether its arm based or x86/x64 based just because its a better purchase, you have a laptop when you need it and a tablet when your on the go, that's one of the reasons why I replaced my laptop with the acer w500 tablet
PC for gaming : Windows
PC for general : Linux Mint
Tablet : iPad and Touchpad running CM9
Phone : S2 so Android with plenty of ROM options.
Would I switch to a Windows 8 phone? No because Microsoft are now so far behind Google and Apple it hurts.
Windows? Windied more like.
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They're screwing over everyone who recently bought into them, namely the Lumia 900 crowd. I can't believe they're "starting over" just like after they killed Windows Mobile. The public outrage would be enormous if Android did such a thing. Announcing a new software version and then saying that ZERO previous devices, even very recent ones, would get the update is insane. MS shoots themselves in the foot once again, right after things started to look promising. They just can't do anything right in the mobile market.
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I completely agree. I hate this kind of planned obsolescence. I used to think Apple was the worst, with their soldered-in CPUs, lack of support for standard storage expansion like MicroSD, batteries that can't be user replaced, and cutting features from major iOS updates to older iPhones for no technical reason. However, Microsoft is really taking the cake here. Not only is it bad for consumers, but it's bad for the environment. We're already a society that generates a ridiculous amount of tech waste, and Microsoft isn't helping. In comparison, Apple is looking pretty good, because when iOS6 comes out, it'll run on the year old iPhone 4S, 2-year old iPhone 4, and 3-year old iPhone 3GS which will be 4-generations behind by that point.
When it comes to planned obsolescence, it looks like Microsoft now takes top honors for being the worst. I used to be pro-Microsoft, but now I hope they miss every sales benchmark.
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PC for gaming : Windows
PC for general : Linux Mint
Tablet : iPad and Touchpad running CM9
Phone : S2 so Android with plenty of ROM options.
Would I switch to a Windows 8 phone? No because Microsoft are now so far behind Google and Apple it hurts.
Windows? Windied more like.
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Behind by what metric? Sales? Sure. Technologically? After yesterday I really don't think that's the case. I am not sold on the entire interface and metro design ideas, but you can see the phones are pretty capable. If anyone is behind to me, it seems like Apple is woefully behind...
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I completely agree. I hate this kind of planned obsolescence. I used to think Apple was the worst, with their soldered-in CPUs, lack of support for standard storage expansion like MicroSD, batteries that can't be user replaced, and cutting features from major iOS updates to older iPhones for no technical reason. However, Microsoft is really taking the cake here. Not only is it bad for consumers, but it's bad for the environment. We're already a society that generates a ridiculous amount of tech waste, and Microsoft isn't helping. In comparison, Apple is looking pretty good, because when iOS6 comes out, it'll run on the year old iPhone 4S, 2-year old iPhone 4, and 3-year old iPhone 3GS which will be 4-generations behind by that point.
When it comes to planned obsolescence, it looks like Microsoft now takes top honors for being the worst. I used to be pro-Microsoft, but now I hope they miss every sales benchmark.
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Go look at the feature list for all those older phones with iOS 6 installed. For the most part, it's an upgrade in name only. Planned obsolescence? I am running the iOS 6 beta right now on a 4S and it is quite obvious the next iPhone will have a taller screen. So many interface elements now feel cramped and the "window" into the OS now seems much too small. This includes the design for the App Store, the new Maps, etc. It actually seems to me, quite clearly, that the ONLY "very good" iOS 6 experience will be occurring on the new iPhone.
The bottom line is that the upgrade experience on all of these mobile devices is incredibly poor. No one really does it right. At this point they should be as open as PCs. You buy a phone, you install whatever OS or software you want. The idea that carriers, and to a lesser extent OEMs, have any say on this over the user is ludicrous.
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Go look at the feature list for all those older phones with iOS 6 installed. For the most part, it's an upgrade in name only. Planned obsolescence? I am running the iOS 6 beta right now on a 4S and it is quite obvious the next iPhone will have a taller screen. So many interface elements now feel cramped and the "window" into the OS now seems much too small. This includes the design for the App Store, the new Maps, etc. It actually seems to me, quite clearly, that the ONLY "very good" iOS 6 experience will be occurring on the new iPhone.
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I haven't actually tried iOS 6 so I can't comment on the user experience, but it'll be more than just an upgrade in name. Since the core framework and kernel are being updated as well, it will run apps that are specifically compiled for iOS 6. It may not be the best user experience, but at least it won't leave people with old devices completely unable to run newer apps.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not praising Apple, but they are certainly looking better than Microsoft in how they treat their existing mobile users. It's completely the opposite of their philosophy with their desktop OS. Windows 7 was supposed to have lower system requirements than Vista so it could run well on older, existing hardware.
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I haven't actually tried iOS 6 so I can't comment on the user experience, but it'll be more than just an upgrade in name. Since the core framework and kernel are being updated as well, it will run apps that are specifically compiled for iOS 6. It may not be the best user experience, but at least it won't leave people with old devices completely unable to run newer apps.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not praising Apple, but they are certainly looking better than Microsoft in how they treat their existing mobile users. It's completely the opposite of their philosophy with their desktop OS. Windows 7 was supposed to have lower system requirements than Vista so it could run well on older, existing hardware.
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after owning an iphone 3gs I can say that it is a name upgrade only, when my device was upgraded to ios 4 not only was it slow, but it was crashing when I was trying to run apps that were designed for ios 4 and tbh id rather have not been upgraded than have been upgraded to software that was crashing my phone and making it almost impossible to use
sure you get an upgrade but tbh if a phone cant handle a newer os wouldn't it be better to have a good user experience on an earlier version and miss out on some of the new things than it is to have one like I described above
now I'm not defending Microsoft for dumping windows phone 7 for what ever the hell is next but apple is just as bad for breaking peoples phones so they HAVE to buy new ones because of how unusable their phones become
Is this the right place for the 7.8 debate? There's loads of threads for that already.
On topic, I think Microsoft are a threat to everyone right now. Apps on WP8 are potentially far more powerful than those on iOS or Android. The stuff they were talking about in that presentation is pretty stunning, with some amazing possibilities.
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Is this the right place for the 7.8 debate? There's loads of threads for that already.
On topic, I think Microsoft are a threat to everyone right now. Apps on WP8 are potentially far more powerful than those on iOS or Android. The stuff they were talking about in that presentation is pretty stunning, with some amazing possibilities.
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They may be more powerful but the development cost and end price will be higher to recoup the investment from a smaller install base.
I found the lacks of apps and high price of apps the downside of my win 7 phone.
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Microsoft is a huge threat to everyone now. At first Microsoft products didn't communicate good with each other, now you're looking at a real ecosystem. App parity on all of your devices. Same application on the PC phone and tablet. No one else can provide that right now.
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They may be more powerful but the development cost and end price will be higher to recoup the investment from a smaller install base.
I found the lacks of apps and high price of apps the downside of my win 7 phone.
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like yourself I also found windows phone 7 to be tasteless for the same reason, but you have to remember this is windows 8, a computer os, not a phone one, you can run every app you can from your desktop on x86 tablets and hybrids
the arm version I'm a bit skeptical about but there is going to be a way to emulate x86/x64 apps on the arm tablets, whether its official or through a company like VMware.
plus its not just about the apps but its also the games that improve as well, you can play full pc games on windows 8 along side with those mini games like angry birds and fruit ninja. not very many tablets out there that can play just cause 2 or call of duty, plus with xbox live integrated it will be a HUGE calling for children who use xbox live on a daily basis, heck its not even kids that will enjoy the xbox live integration, adults can as well. imagine playing hydro thunder or some other multiplayer game with your child while you are out of state/country
windows 8 does pose a huge threat to the android and iOS tablet market shares, sure its not gonna kill them off completely because you got your fan boys on both ends but its gonna be like the pc market share is now 90% windows, 9% apple, 1% inux/android
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Microsoft is a huge threat to everyone now. At first Microsoft products didn't communicate good with each other, now you're looking at a real ecosystem. App parity on all of your devices. Same application on the PC phone and tablet. No one else can provide that right now.
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^THIS
vetvito said:
Microsoft is a huge threat to everyone now. At first Microsoft products didn't communicate good with each other, now you're looking at a real ecosystem. App parity on all of your devices. Same application on the PC phone and tablet. No one else can provide that right now.
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Actually, Both in Plat Store and Apple Apps Store, There are what we call universal apps fir both phone and tablet. 1 app for 2 devices. nothing new. Except for the PC part
My Galaxy Nexus drowned (fu Sandy!) in my living room. Time to buy a new phone off contract, ready and willing to pay full price for the device.
I was looking forward to buying a WP8 device... either Lumia 920 or 8X, but whatever forces absolutely killed it for me.
Nokia with their moronic exclusivity periods and no AWS on the unlocked version. Where do I get the Rogers version for a sensible price?
8X was pretty appealing too until I found out that there is no Nokia Transport on it.
Back to an Android device... disappointed.
herzzreh said:
My Galaxy Nexus drowned (fu Sandy!) in my living room. Time to buy a new phone off contract, ready and willing to pay full price for the device.
I was looking forward to buying a WP8 device... either Lumia 920 or 8X, but whatever forces absolutely killed it for me.
Nokia with their moronic exclusivity periods and no AWS on the unlocked version. Where do I get the Rogers version for a sensible price?
8X was pretty appealing too until I found out that there is no Nokia Transport on it.
Back to an Android device... disappointed.
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I´ve been a Android user for years but since 2 days i have a Lumia 920.
WP phone is nice, it has a nice design, its fast and everything has a nice animation. but to be honest i miss my android. all the custom roms, flashes, apk. downloads. Mods, Design chagens. Honestly man i dont really now.
All in all Lumia 920 is a great device.
Android suits a certain sort of person. The whole "overclocker" and custom PC crowd. For the rest of us looking for an optimal communication device the Windows Phone devices fit the bill.
iOS isn't "optimal" IMHO. So much relies upon launching an app. I can take a photo on WP8 and upload it in seconds to Facebook.
I used Windows phone on an HD, it was configurable, I loved flashing roms etc... But I got an original Omnia 7 two years ago, I now have a 920.... unlocked... I like the windows phones, once you get over the "I have no control" thing, you realise, the phone doesn't need flashing e.t.c. it just works out of the box.
Not too happy with IE10 though, as hover over boxes dont work very well.. :s
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I used Windows phone on an HD, it was configurable, I loved flashing roms etc... But I got an original Omnia 7 two years ago, I now have a 920.... unlocked... I like the windows phones, once you get over the "I have no control" thing, you realise, the phone doesn't need flashing e.t.c. it just works out of the box.
Not too happy with IE10 though, as hover over boxes dont work very well.. :s
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Did you check your thread? I gave you a suggestion. Also, not being happy with IE10 for not being able to do something most touch browsers can't do (or rather, not being able to do something that is stupid and it shouldn't have to do) is pretty... arbitrary.
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I never liked android, and I probably never will. Hell I like WebOS better. Android is very flexible but even if you put a significant amount of effort into crafting a speedy and efficient environment, you cannot escape android's terrible flaws. I love *nix, and while android is modeled after the *nix's, it completely fails to bring the spirit of the platform over and in the end it's just an inconsistent shameful mess. The biggest problem I have with android is it has the potential for power, but android itself is completely barren of any functionality and everything is left up to apps, and piling apps upon apps, ranging from decently to ****tily programed, results in complete instability and my undying hatred. It really depends on what you try to do of course, but funnily enough all of the things I could easily do with a 700MHz WM6 device caused android to crash and completely fail on a dual core 1.2GhHz tablet. It's the difference between an app-centric device and a computer framework, I guess. Professional code, corporate "apps" and the solid framework of WM6 definitely shine when compared against the largely unprofessionally created software that make up android's market, and while android itself is more or less just OK in terms of quality of code, as I have said, it literally can do nothing on its own. I think the most infuriating example is me trying to set a background, and you need a goddamn third party app to do this, otherwise your picture is plastered with the wrong proportions over the scrolling homescreen thing.
Granted, WP7 and WP8 wouldn't even let me *try* to do the things I would do with WM6, but I thoroughly enjoy the concept of live tiles (which I argue are better than widgets, and they are certainly more embraced by WP devs than widgets) and I thoroughly enjoy the efficient, unified system. After using WP for a while, you start to realize that the phone is a valid platform in of itself, and you don't necessarily need or want it to have the power of the PC; a proprietary and flexible system (like WP8 is now) is very powerful and performs what it needs to do with greater efficiency and direction than you could with a PC. That being said, I picked up my HD2 today and I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss the tempting and awesome dark powers of WM6...
Obligatory: and iOS is a joke. I mean, it works, but it's not efficient or well designed in any way, and I think the styling is pretty ugly to boot. It has the same problem that android does with relying on apps for everything, except without the flexibility. I had a dumbphone that was pretty smart to be fair, but it quite literally matched everything the iPhone could do with j2me apps, and the system supported flash (!) and had a native file browser. Quite shameful to be bested by a dumbphone. The only reason iOS sells is because the 'cult of apple', and people are accustomed to the rather bad design since it's been out for a while (which was better than most dumbphones at the time, to be fair, but the system has stagnated because apple refuses to improve upon the original design), and also there are a healthy number of apps that provide decent functionality for the average user.
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My Galaxy Nexus drowned (fu Sandy!) in my living room. Time to buy a new phone off contract, ready and willing to pay full price for the device.
I was looking forward to buying a WP8 device... either Lumia 920 or 8X, but whatever forces absolutely killed it for me.
Nokia with their moronic exclusivity periods and no AWS on the unlocked version. Where do I get the Rogers version for a sensible price?
8X was pretty appealing too until I found out that there is no Nokia Transport on it.
Back to an Android device... disappointed.
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You should try emailing Stephen Elop himself and ask how you can buy an unlocked AWS band Lumia. I'm not joking either, lots of people have gotten replies from him and he is a great guy.
"No Nokia Transport on an HTC device"
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herzzreh said:
My Galaxy Nexus drowned (fu Sandy!) in my living room. Time to buy a new phone off contract, ready and willing to pay full price for the device.
I was looking forward to buying a WP8 device... either Lumia 920 or 8X, but whatever forces absolutely killed it for me.
Nokia with their moronic exclusivity periods and no AWS on the unlocked version. Where do I get the Rogers version for a sensible price?
8X was pretty appealing too until I found out that there is no Nokia Transport on it.
Back to an Android device... disappointed.
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So... you're on T-mobile? Don't overlook the 810. The tech-geek-in-you's first reaction will be, "No HD screen?! No way!" But, consider this, I'll come back to the screen in a sec. The 810 has the exact same specs as the 8X and 920 outside of screen resolution. 1.5Ghz processor, 1gig of ram and so on with one difference... MicroSD card.
Now to the screen. It's 4.3" so not the largest and not the smallest. But, let me tell you... the AMOLED makes this thing pop. It looks really good. Not quite as good as the 920, but better than most. And, with the ClearBlack tech, it's really nice in direct light. Excuse me for sounding like an ad, but it's true. I don't think you can go wrong with the 810 at all. It's light and feels really good in the hand. I can say I'm quite happy with my 810 after getting over the same disappointment as you have about the 920. I just wish it had 16GB of internal storage as apps can only be installed internally and not on the SD card.
But, it's not an overly expensive phone and Nokia says they have the new hotness coming this Spring. So, you can wait and see what that's all about and maybe upgrade at that point. I suggest you head down to ye olde Magenta's shop and take a go at the 810. You may find yourself pleasantly pleased.
3 years ago i've bought htc mytouch 3g (android 1.6-2.3.1). it was something new - after my blackberry pearl.
1 year later i've replaced mytouch with new htc hd7 (wp7-7.5), and i found out, that a smartphone may make calls! and it must not freeze every time i want to call! since 2 years of htc hd7 i've bought nokia lumia 920. it looks like my previous htc hd7 - only better.
my wife has been using sumsung galaxy s for one year. it was the worst phone in her life (by her own words). it had poorest battery life and applications, that you can't kill, but that dry your battery up in minutes and eat a lot of data through 3G. after that i've bought nokia lumia 710 for her. and she's happy! she has a smartphone now, that can call!
i will never ever go back to an android-phone.
I feel the same way. I grew tired of this works but not this constantly searching for new roms over clock under lock blah blahblah. I was tired of it.this phone needs none of that
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I used Windows phone on an HD, it was configurable, I loved flashing roms etc... But I got an original Omnia 7 two years ago, I now have a 920.... unlocked... I like the windows phones, once you get over the "I have no control" thing, you realise, the phone doesn't need flashing e.t.c. it just works out of the box.
Not too happy with IE10 though, as hover over boxes dont work very well.. :s
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For those using wm8... Are app limitations (apparently crappy FB client etc.) real or exaggerated?
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For those using wm8... Are app limitations (apparently crappy FB client etc.) real or exaggerated?
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Heavily exaggerated, I live on FB and the benefits outweigh the negatives by a longshot.
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For those using wm8... Are app limitations (apparently crappy FB client etc.) real or exaggerated?
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Exaggerated, I agree. The vast majority of popular apps are available (even if half of 'em are redundant due to built-in functionality, e.g. Evernote, Shazaam, et al.). What's lacking is the ubiquity of every random useless app being available, e.g. Costco or someone coming out with an app (that I can't imagine who would even want) for iOS only or maybe throwing Android in the mix.
For fb in particular, yes, the app has some shortcomings, but the built-in integration is good for 90% of what I need to do without even launching the app; the app handles all that plus most of the rest of anything I'd do. And the phone has IE10 built in, and does a nice job with the full desktop version of the website in a pinch.
Is Hulu available?
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WP has Facebook integration built in. It works pretty well on the whole. Some features aren't directly supported, like reading groups. But if it supported every feature it may as well be branded a Facebook phone.
You can take a photo and upload it to Facebook faster than other devices in my experience.
Exchanged One S for Lumia 820... So far, I'm loving it. I hope that this platform succeeds. I'm amazed that everything just... works! Missing Hulu and Spotify big time though...
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to use or not to use a special FBI (or just FB, if you want ) app is a question of taste. my wife prefers to open facebook.com in safari on her ipad instead of using any FBI application. FBI on WP8, probably doesn't have all the features, the browser version provides, but enough to feel comfortable as much as it's possible to feel comfortable with FBI on a mobile device. and FBI intergration in WP8 is a pretty tasty additional benefit.
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to use or not to use a special FBI (or just FB, if you want ) app is a question of taste. my wife prefers to open facebook.com in safari on her ipad instead of using any FBI application. FBI on WP8, probably doesn't have all the features, the browser version provides, but enough to feel comfortable as much as it's possible to feel comfortable with FBI on a mobile device. and FBI intergration in WP8 is a pretty tasty additional benefit.
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The fun fact is that most FB apps are worse than just using the browser. The only exception I know of is the WP one lol.
Facebook app is so bad that I'm getting pissed of WP8 because of that. And Skype. Yes, I know, Skype is beta, but yet, Microsoft bought it 18 months ago, and I'm pretty sure they know they would release WP8 already to develop a decent and FINAL app for it.
But now, I'm using a buggy version of Skype that doesnt even support chat when i'm not using the app.
And I dont know why Microsoft try to develop the Facebook app. Why Facebook don't do that? Mine is force closing when I'm using the message. Everytime I use it, actually. Push Notifications just doesnt work. No matter what I do.
Ah, guys, I noticed.. Sometimes resuming apps is slower than just re-opening it. Just me?!
A hacker by the named reker apparently has jailbreaked an 8x an ascend w1
http://forums.wpcentral.com/windows...ia-collection-htc-temple-run-512mb-phone.html
Excellent, hopefully soon reaches the Nokia Lumia 920
And Samsung ativ s but I seriously doubt it Samsung windows phones take the longest to crack it seems
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This is not the first time this claim has been made, hopefully this time something will come of it.
@noelito: Samsung phones were among the first to be cracked in the days of WP7. For a long time, WP7 Root Tools could only run on Samsung phones. That was gen1 though; Samsung stepped things up with gen2.
i PRAY for a samsung ativ s jailbreak
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This is not the first time this claim has been made, hopefully this time something will come of it.
@noelito: Samsung phones were among the first to be cracked in the days of WP7. For a long time, WP7 Root Tools could only run on Samsung phones. That was gen1 though; Samsung stepped things up with gen2.
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yes but 2nd generation Samsung phones have barely been cracked, only like what 6 months ago? I am praying for an ativ S jailbreak, then my phone's potential would be unleashed!
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yes but 2nd generation Samsung phones have barely been cracked, only like what 6 months ago? I am praying for an ativ S jailbreak, then my phone's potential would be unleashed!
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WP is THE only OS ignored by everyone, hackers and devs alike. Always wondered why. I guess while ANdroid and Apple ignore these indie devs(or hackers if you may), MS has one eye on them.
Just my opinion.
Please, do it for Lumia 820
Great to hear that something changes in WP.
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A hacker by the named reker apparently has jailbreaked an 8x an ascend w1
http://forums.wpcentral.com/windows...ia-collection-htc-temple-run-512mb-phone.html
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You should read xda-dev forums more carefully Your "news" is two weeks old:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2321642
Also, this guy has unlocked bootloader...
P.S. He-he, it's very funny to watch news circulation on the thematic web sites
Hey sweetie thanks for letting me know ! Preciate it!
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In the meantime people just dev unlock your phone for $19! I did and sideloaded some wp7 apps
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I was tempted to get the Note 5 maybe only for Gear VR...
My Note 4 is beyond its limits...
I don't see any other important reason not to switch to the Lumia 950XL
Am already using Onenote with my colleagues.
So much better... well it's Office...
Same with my Note 10.1 2014... Surface (pro) 4 it will be.
Android apps are already and maybe iOS ones will be running on Windows which is the other major seller for Windows 10
Android was once very open... now it's becoming more restrictive to satisfy even the dumbest user... for those there is already i'doit'OS.
Impossible / hard to root... SD practically unusable...
Huge Software problems with 5.0 and 5.1 across all Manufacturers.
The Base is too old... not designed for 8 core 4GB Ram devices
Windows 10 is a completely new OS
Android is dying... fragmenting within itself now - in the near future more manufacturers will make their own Android... am telling you... it's the rise of Windows
Back to the smartphone roots
Cool story bro
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i think you got it backwards..windows is dying out..i remember the hd2 days when everyone wanted to run android instead of windows
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I agree with u somehow
the discipline in company and products is important whatever product sucks like winVista or good like win7 or maybe completely new and gr8 like win10 (but not changing whole company with new name ALPHABET!)
Microsoft will change smartphone markets but it s on early stages
Android is awesome but maybe google policy is not good enough for it
so native support for APK packages on Win10 can make some different for Android Developers
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btw u should send it to Android Forum, General Section, not in galaxy note 5
actually you may have something here..with the mass exodous from Samsung that the note 5/S6 has started, the alternative phones/OS are suddenly going to have a opportunity to come back again; I just dumped my samsung for a nexus, my wife and son dumped their samsungs for LG G4's, it seems like 95% of my XDA buddies are completely fed up with Samsung, so, there has never been a better time for windows 10,Blackberry, and or any of the "newcomers" out their to get their products into the market place.
Samsung has lost their "leader" mentality, and obviously thinks they can just rest on their past laurels and maintain the giant customer base they have enjoyed for the last several years..
boy, are they in for a rude awakening..
You talk about iOS being "restrictive" and yet you want to move to Windows Phone. Does no one see the irony is this?
IOS can be jailbroken; is there a way to "crack" windows phone?
Haha hahah Android is dead? You sure have a great imagination. I sure hope windows finally gets better because everyone can only win with more phone competing to make a better product
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I don't see Android dying anytime soon. There are too many devices and manufactures using this platform.
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Oh please, everyone knows Blackberry 10 is where its at!
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go to symbian, windows 10 sucks
I like how you are posting links of this thread on other threads as if your opinion is that important. It's hilarious.
WTF did I just read??
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