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[Q] Question about RAM

hey i have a question about the ram, how many ram memory do you have? because my htc hd2 tmobile only use 250mb :S i use multitasking pro and in the avalaible memory said:
available:250mb
total:411mb
it isnt supossed to be 576MB?? and why i only have 250mb available?
aaah and i have this rom HyperDroidGBXv7

You only have 411mb of RAM shown in Android. The rest is used by system.

zarathustrax said:
You only have 411mb of RAM shown in Android. The rest is used by system.
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oooh thanks but another question why i only have 250 available of the 411mb..? where is the rest of the ram?

I have the same issue, with less memory. In ANdroid : 283MB available. Where did the rest go. I use NAND MDJ's CyanogenMod 7. Maybe I did something wrong on installation?

The missing ram out of the 411 available is again being used by the system.

It's misleading. It should say "576 megs of *shared* ram". Most of the ram you don't have access to is used by the radio, and other system parts.

Can anyone recommend a rom with lots of internal space

I'm currently using CMYLXGO stock desire rom and i love it but the last few days ive been getting a low memory icon. I look and my phone says 90%. Wierd cause ive deleted many apps and have app2sd as well. I dont know if its me or the rom but I was wondering if anyone can recommend a rom that offers lots of space for apps. For some reason while the icon is up I dont even get emails. If anyone is using app2sd i have a question. When i click on the "phone only" tab it says 21 apps but on the moveable tab it says "no moveable applications found". And on my sd tab it says only 9 apps. How do I move those phone apps to my sd? Maybe that'll clear space.

If your using SD android, (i dont know about nand or ram) Search for toporesize in xda, find [app]windows resize data img maker thread and download the app, then just follow the instructions but backup your img first and don't resize to bigger than 2048mb(2gb).
Then you have larger internal memory with the same rom!
Sent from my HD2
Running AmeriCanAndroid
AOSPHD2GB233CM7

evo1rs said:
Search for toporesize in xda, find [app]windows resize data img maker thread and download the app, then just follow the instructions but backup your img first and don't resize to bigger than 2048mb(2gb).
Then you have larger internal memory with the same rom!
Sent from my HD2
Running AmeriCanAndroid
AOSPHD2GB233CM7
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What do you mean. Backup your image? Like picture?

Is it an SD build your using?
Sent from my HD2
Running AmeriCanAndroid
AOSPHD2GB233CM7

evo1rs said:
Is it an SD build your using?
Sent from my HD2
Running AmeriCanAndroid
AOSPHD2GB233CM7
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I beleive so. Its a zip on my sd card, if thats what you mean

Ok sorry. I just searched for it and it is nand. Different filesystem setups.
I only use SD card builds so I can still use winmo if I like.
Looking at the thread for your build you need partitions or something.
In which case I'd recommend the rom in my signature.
Sorry for the mix up.
Sent from my HD2
Running AmeriCanAndroid
AOSPHD2GB233CM7

Take a look at my sign

Bingoig11 said:
Take a look at my sign
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Oh my, I'm loving the look of coredroid but need to research to mke sure it works for tmous and most importantly how to install. Not very savy when it comes to this. Off to read I go...

bx10r said:
Oh my, I'm loving the look of coredroid but need to research to mke sure it works for tmous and most importantly how to install. Not very savy when it comes to this. Off to read I go...
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There's a special version for TMOUS and everything is explained so you cannot make a mistake
Enjoy the power dude!!!!!!!!!!!!

so it seems the instructions are cut and dry. One question it doesnt answer. Should I take all my current rom zips out of my sd?

Unless you absolutely positively need sense, I would recommend and AOSP build like this lightning fast gingerbread build: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918899
sense builds will always tend towards the bloated side. The system partition on the gingerbread build i linked only takes up about 125 mb. vs the 400mb partition that cmylxgo's dhd build takes up

so i went with coredroid and so far so good. I wanna thank you guys for all the suggestions you've provided

[Q] Why Sense NAND build need Ext for EU?

as written on the topic, I was thinking why don't just put all the /system all on NAND, why do we need SD-EXT??
if it is making insufficent memory for data,can't we just use data2sd then??
correct me if i'm wrong

Eu models have 512 rom. Tmous have 1024. The higher sense rom it is. It needs more memory. In most situations u cant pack sense rom in 512mb. So u use SD-EXT. One catchy thing is that u need to format sd-ext (properly) or u wont be able to boot rom. There are roms that dont need sd-ext but they are not sense. Sense is memory eater but makes phone more user friendly. U get it now?
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oroo708 said:
as written on the topic, I was thinking why don't just put all the /system all on NAND, why do we need SD-EXT??
if it is making insufficent memory for data,can't we just use data2sd then??
correct me if i'm wrong
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well .... you can use my build , it doesn't need ext! joking..

sense roms contain a lot of eye candy !! !!
and most of the space on the ext partition is required for the weather videos !!
rest of the space for all htc stuff like htc hub, peep and all !! !!

NAND vs. SD method

Hi
A friend of mine asked me if I could put Android on his HD2 as he bought one with German language and he doesn't understand anything at all. Now we wan't to completely remove Windows Mobile 6.5.x from the phone and install Android. ICS with HTC sense is prefered but and older version will also do.
I have found multiple tutorials, but I wonder which method is the best. NAND or SD?
At this point in time we don't have any SD-card in the phone, so I asume the Sd method isn't usable. But which method and ROM is the best to use if we want to be able to switch language and want Android experience as close to the HTC android phones as possible.
Are there any bugs with the HD2 in Android? I've heard that there should be problems with the sound when calling people, and the data-connection should be unstable as well. Are these rumors still current or have they been solved?

CTSRP said:
Hi
A friend of mine asked me if I could put Android on his HD2 as he bought one with German language and he doesn't understand anything at all. Now we wan't to completely remove Windows Mobile 6.5.x from the phone and install Android. ICS with HTC sense is prefered but and older version will also do.
I have found multiple tutorials, but I wonder which method is the best. NAND or SD?
At this point in time we don't have any SD-card in the phone, so I asume the Sd method isn't usable. But which method and ROM is the best to use if we want to be able to switch language and want Android experience as close to the HTC android phones as possible.
Are there any bugs with the HD2 in Android? I've heard that there should be problems with the sound when calling people, and the data-connection should be unstable as well. Are these rumors still current or have they been solved?
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Ok. First of all, Nand is the better of the two. As your friend want to COMPLETELY remove winmo6.5 its better to use NAND. Currently there is no ICS sense rom but the sense gingerbread roms work very smoothly with all features working. So you may want to try that. And dont worry you can change language from german to english. You basically select english at the startup setup.
One more thing. Even when installing the NAND version of android you will need a sd-card. The rom is a .zip file which must be copied to the sd card and this rom will be installed on the phones internal memory hence: NAND.
Hope it helps
Feel free to ask but i suggest you search it first and read more, because clearly you are lacking information

adil1508 said:
Ok. First of all, Nand is the better of the two. As your friend want to COMPLETELY remove winmo6.5 its better to use NAND. Currently there is no ICS sense rom but the sense gingerbread roms work very smoothly with all features working. So you may want to try that. And dont worry you can change language from german to english. You basically select english at the startup setup.
One more thing. Even when installing the NAND version of android you will need a sd-card. The rom is a .zip file which must be copied to the sd card and this rom will be installed on the phones internal memory hence: NAND.
Hope it helps
Feel free to ask but i suggest you search it first and read more, because clearly you are lacking information
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Thanks for the quick reply. I will read further on how to install using NAND method. But how big should the SD-card be. As said he doesn't have a SD-card in his phone. I have one but it's only 128MB, so not a whole lot. If the phone was using the MiniSD cards instead of microSD I had a 1GB card. But isn't it possible to get a Gingerbread HTC Sense ROM and then extract and repack it on the PC so it can fit the 128MB card. Or are the packed ROM's small enough to fit on a 128MB card?

Tell your friend to invest in about 4GB or more, once you've got a few apps, video video clips, music files and recovery backups then the 4GB will be eaten fairly fast imo. If you grab a class 6 card you can get one for less then $1/GB (aud).

parker09 said:
Tell your friend to invest in about 4GB or more, once you've got a few apps, video video clips, music files and recovery backups then the 4GB will be eaten fairly fast imo. If you grab a class 6 card you can get one for less then $1/GB (aud).
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Sure I'll tell him that. But will the installationsfiles for Android fit on my 128MB card?

CTSRP said:
Sure I'll tell him that. But will the installationsfiles for Android fit on my 128MB card?
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No.

CTSRP said:
Thanks for the quick reply. I will read further on how to install using NAND method. But how big should the SD-card be. As said he doesn't have a SD-card in his phone. I have one but it's only 128MB, so not a whole lot. If the phone was using the MiniSD cards instead of microSD I had a 1GB card. But isn't it possible to get a Gingerbread HTC Sense ROM and then extract and repack it on the PC so it can fit the 128MB card. Or are the packed ROM's small enough to fit on a 128MB card?
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Dont forget the thanks button
Anyways, basically the sd card is used to put the rom in and all music, pics, apps etc. will be stored on the sd card. plus, the 128 mb card will not hold the rom. Some files of the rom are installed on the sd card as well(some) so yeah, like the above user said, invest in a class 4 sd card with a fairly high amount of memory.

try the link below, it could give you an idea

You will need an SD card anyhow as mentioned before. Not only for flashing it to Nand, also some ROMs needs an ext(2 or 3) partition on the SD card. Specially when it's an EU device as yours might seems.
F.e.: I got an EU model and the great Energy ROM running - this needs a 1Gb ext(2 or 3) partition on the SD card!
-> It depends on the ROM of your choice.
Right now, I guess there is now ICS ROM with sense out there - or an I wrong?
I can definetly recommend the NRG ROM as this one runs really great. There is also a very good lashing instruction in its thread.
Good luck :good:

Ooh, ooh, me too!!
adil1508 said:
Ok. First of all, Nand is the better of the two. As your friend want to COMPLETELY remove winmo6.5 its better to use NAND. Currently there is no ICS sense rom but the sense gingerbread roms work very smoothly with all features working. So you may want to try that. And dont worry you can change language from german to english. You basically select english at the startup setup.
One more thing. Even when installing the NAND version of android you will need a sd-card. The rom is a .zip file which must be copied to the sd card and this rom will be installed on the phones internal memory hence: NAND.
Hope it helps
Feel free to ask but i suggest you search it first and read more, because clearly you are lacking information
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I also want to completely remove winmo6.5 from my wife's stock UK HTC HD2 and put some form of Android OS on it so I can then get her Ovivo Mobile mobile connection to work (I'm not bothered about dual boot functionality). Could you quickly link to a guide you would recommend to do this ("Thanks" will always be given :good: ).
(Note: I had an HD2 once, and bricked it after 9 months of ownership with a dodgy radio, so I'm a bit once-bitten-twice-shy about doing it).

shaggydabbydo said:
I also want to completely remove winmo6.5 from my wife's stock UK HTC HD2 and put some form of Android OS on it so I can then get her Ovivo Mobile mobile connection to work (I'm not bothered about dual boot functionality). Could you quickly link to a guide you would recommend to do this ("Thanks" will always be given :good: ).
(Note: I had an HD2 once, and bricked it after 9 months of ownership with a dodgy radio, so I'm a bit once-bitten-twice-shy about doing it).
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Here is my favourite guide. It's incredibly simple. You should really search before posting though, it isn't difficult to find.

Thanks
Nigeldg said:
Here is my favourite guide. It's incredibly simple. You should really search before posting though, it isn't difficult to find.
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Thanks (and "thanks" added). I did search [and read the "sticky") but there were lots and I got confused as to which one. I'll give the one you recommend a go (which incidentaly did not come up in my [brief] search. :good:

shaggydabbydo said:
(which incidentaly did not come up in my [brief] search. :good:
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Ah, you see, it shouldn't be [brief] but [thorough]

Nigeldg said:
Ah, you see, it shouldn't be [brief] but [thorough]
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Ah, but I would have been thoroughly confused with a thorough search, fortunatly I was only briefly confused .

[Q] Sawpper

Hey.
I have a LG L7 P700 ( Android 4.1.2) and i have two doubts.
The phone only have 512MB of RAM memory.
So:
1- How many memory we trully use?
2- I have an app called swapper and is supposed to increase the RAM Memory... i put 250Mb more (i saw a video on youtube..) and i want to know if is true? x)
Thanks.

You MUST read
this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2426126
and look this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2415481
Then you can experiment....

raul338 said:
You MUST read
this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2426126
and look this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2415481
Then you can experiment....
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Thank you mate
It was useful

There are 2 similar issues as by using swapper ,I guess better avoid it,,and system uses ram according to apps running and android version,,, normally it's about 150mbs