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Tegra 2 forgotten?

has game developers forgotten about tegra 2 and just moved onto tegra 3 i mean i see alot of awesome games coming out such as Horn or the new game coming out Wild blood which is supposed to boast the unreal engine or even bladeslinger but all run on tegra 3 , i mean if i can run Dead trigger highest graphics under clocked with no lag then why move on? even Max Payne mobile highest graphics and under clocked runs fine. is it just devs wanting to work on tegra 3 for the consumer market in it or is tegra 2 just that old?

Yeah it doesn't make sense I'm sure these high end apps could have somethings set up just to scale down settings depending on hardware of the device. Kinda like PC games do which will try to match the best settings for the hardware (which usually is OK)
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BrianDigital said:
Yeah it doesn't make sense I'm sure these high end apps could have somethings set up just to scale down settings depending on hardware of the device. Kinda like PC games do which will try to match the best settings for the hardware (which usually is OK)
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yeah kinda sucks hopefully theyll comeback to it or remake a tegra 2 enhanced version

BrianDigital said:
Yeah it doesn't make sense I'm sure these high end apps could have somethings set up just to scale down settings depending on hardware of the device. Kinda like PC games do which will try to match the best settings for the hardware (which usually is OK)
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yeah i think that also like we THD games for tegra hd, im assuming soon there will be THD versions of the tegra 3 games

chismay said:
yeah i think that also like we THD games for tegra hd, im assuming soon there will be THD versions of the tegra 3 games
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yeah i guess its just time to upgrade :/ im going with an actual cmputer tab 320 gig harddrive 2.2ghz win7 winpad i think unless i can find a better one i can use for work :/

Maybe all those Tegra 3 only titles are sponsored by Nvidia and Nvidia wants them to be T3 exclusive to attract more tablet/phone buyers. But they showed with Tegra 2 how much they care about the hardware they already sold (we are not even clients to them as we ONLY buy end products with Nvidia hardware).
I think the same will happen when Nvidia presents T3 successor in the future. All THD titles will be made for this next chip and T3 will be forgotten as T2 is now.
I think that developers' decision to support T3 exclusivelly in their titles is Nvidia's doing because developers are actually shrinking their potential customer base (how many T2 tab users is out there comparing to T3 user base). WIthout money from Nv I don't think any developer would do that unless they need so much processing power that T2 is not capable of delivering any more. And @gears177 gave 2 examples that T2 is still capable of running good 3d games even underclocked. T3 is just overkill for most titles.

Gaming @ S III

So, here is the thing.
The only thread i saw about Games on S III is one from whic games work on LIB FW. Maybe i didn't search enough but it seems there isn't an "actual one" so i'd like to know which games are natively compatible and which others you can make compatible like for example editing build.prop and change device, model, name and brand.
Did this in my Motorola RAZR and chage it to Galaxy Nexus, i couldn't get NFS Hot Pursuit, Modern Combat 2 and 9mm to work, so did that and then installed SD DATA through the game, and all went well, fully working games. But now with S III i can't get 9mm to work and with CyanogenMOD9 i can't get Modern Combat 3 to be compatible trough Play Store when in Sammy's ROM it was compatible.
Then i edited build.prop to be a Galaxy Nexus, installed them, downloaded DATA for 9mm being a GNexus (can't being S III) and tried to play it, but the game it's about to start, no FC, no error, but game just closes itself and system goes to homescreen, game is open in background but it kept doing the same thing. Diferent from Modern Combat 3 that works fine.
I think it's obviously 'cause i downloaded DATA being a GNexus but how can i download compatible SD DATA for S III and play it???
So, i wanna know if there is a way for make this work and i'm leaving games that i have that works well with CyanogenMOD 9 so we can make a list perhaps.
Games:
· Modern Combat 3
· Modern Combat 2
· Asphalt 6
· ShadowGun
· Need For Speed : Hot Pursuit
And then i got all of the Humble Bundle games for Android :
· Anomaly
· BIT.TRIP BEAT
· Canabalt
· Cogs
· EDGE
· Fieldrunners
· Osmos
· Smuggle Truck
· Snuggle Truck
· Spirits
· Swords & Soldiers
· Toki Tori
· World Of Goo
· Zen Bound 2
PD: Sorry for my english, it's not my language, so if someone can help, i'd really appreciate it!

Can u try nova 3 by changing the build.prop because nova 3 isn't compatible.............and thanks
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:facepalm: Maaate, are you really serious with your post?
I can explain it to ya....
Guess why the Gnexus games work on your Moto phone?
Gnexus SoC is a TI4460 and the moto SoC is a TI4430.
The only difference is the frequency clock of the cpu and gpu (PowerVR540)
Look here.
And now take a closer look at the hardware of your Galaxy s3.
I has a Exynos 4412 chipset, that includes the same 4 arm-a9 cores, but uses the MaliMP4 gpu instead of the powerVR solution.
And thats all.
I know, there are games, that can use the same data on different chipsets, like dead trigger.
But older games from gameloft have data for each chipset. So if you change your phone from GS3 to Gnexus it will work with some games, but with others those have special data for every SoC it just wont work.
Sry for ya
and I hope I could help you a bit with your problem.

alexx910 said:
:facepalm: Maaate, are you really serious with your post?
I can explain it to ya....
Guess why the Gnexus games work on your Moto phone?
Gnexus SoC is a TI4460 and the moto SoC is a TI4430.
The only difference is the frequency clock of the cpu and gpu (PowerVR540)
Look here.
And now take a closer look at the hardware of your Galaxy s3.
I has a Exynos 4412 chipset, that includes the same 4 arm-a9 cores, but uses the MaliMP4 gpu instead of the powerVR solution.
And thats all.
I know, there are games, that can use the same data on different chipsets, like dead trigger.
But older games from gameloft have data for each chipset. So if you change your phone from GS3 to Gnexus it will work with some games, but with others those have special data for every SoC it just wont work.
Sry for ya
and I hope I could help you a bit with your problem.
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Except we get chainfire3D to work on JB
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sohail77 said:
Can u try nova 3 by changing the build.prop because nova 3 isn't compatible.............and thanks
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It works fine. Who told you it doesn't work
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alexx910 said:
:facepalm: Maaate, are you really serious with your post?
I can explain it to ya....
Guess why the Gnexus games work on your Moto phone?
Gnexus SoC is a TI4460 and the moto SoC is a TI4430.
The only difference is the frequency clock of the cpu and gpu (PowerVR540)
Look here.
And now take a closer look at the hardware of your Galaxy s3.
I has a Exynos 4412 chipset, that includes the same 4 arm-a9 cores, but uses the MaliMP4 gpu instead of the powerVR solution.
And thats all.
I know, there are games, that can use the same data on different chipsets, like dead trigger.
But older games from gameloft have data for each chipset. So if you change your phone from GS3 to Gnexus it will work with some games, but with others those have special data for every SoC it just wont work.
Sry for ya
and I hope I could help you a bit with your problem.
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Facepalm why? Not all of us have to know that about chipsets and whatever.
So there isn't anyway to play 9mm on GS III? Or any other game that isn't compatible??

How does the nexus 10 cpu compare to Tegra 3?

Heard some reports from a tech site that while playing a game at high quality the performance on this tablet tanked so they had to lower the settings to alleviate the issue. Really worried about this since if the cpu is not up to snugg i might as well get the nexus 4?

Fasty12 said:
Heard some reports from a tech site that while playing a game at high quality the performance on this tablet tanked so they had to lower the settings to alleviate the issue. Really worried about this since if the cpu is not up to snugg i might as well get the nexus 4?
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The CPU is very good. The GPU is the best GPU on Android currently but that huge resolution is pulling FPS down.
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Well, it destroys the Tegra 3, that is for sure. But yeah, it's that resolution. It's supposed to be able to handle it, but obviously it won't do it as well as if it were lower.

Also take into account that all the reviews are not running the same thing the one we will purchase. Google has made this clear. Things like miracast and multiple users are not there as of right now and some performance will be ironed out b4 release.

kaspar737 said:
The CPU is very good. The GPU is the best GPU on Android currently but that huge resolution is pulling FPS down.
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do you think game devs will give the option to run the game at a lower resolution to get better FPS? Seems like it'd be worth it to run a game @ 1080p and gain some performance.

keenraven said:
do you think game devs will give the option to run the game at a lower resolution to get better FPS? Seems like it'd be worth it to run a game @ 1080p and gain some performance.
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Well Gameloft said they will optimise their games for Nexus 10 display. I have no idea what they meant under that. I hope they can somehow make their games run 1600p native. If not, well 1080p upscaled is still very good.
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kaspar737 said:
Well Gameloft said they will optimise their games for Nexus 10 display. I have no idea what they meant under that. I hope they can somehow make their games run 1600p native. If not, well 1080p upscaled is still very good.
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Gameloft did this with NOVA 3 already, presumably to update the textures. As this is not a big job, Gameloft should be able to do the same with their other top games.
(By the way, Nexus 10 supports all of NOVA 3's special effects.)

Fasty12 said:
Heard some reports from a tech site that while playing a game at high quality the performance on this tablet tanked so they had to lower the settings to alleviate the issue. Really worried about this since if the cpu is not up to snugg i might as well get the nexus 4?
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Saw in a review (cant remember which one) that although it is faster than the Tegra 3 the multi core of the T3 was better for intensive gaming since it was better at multitasking, I think they had to lower graphics in nova 3 or deadtrigger!

username24 said:
Saw in a review (cant remember which one) that although it is faster than the Tegra 3 the multi core of the T3 was better for intensive gaming since it was better at multitasking, I think they had to lower graphics in nova 3 or deadtrigger!
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Games are very GPU based and the multitasking on tegra 3 is crippled by the cheap slow read and write memory
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Nexus 10 gaming lag discussion

Hello folks
Some high res games in the nexus does have frame drips or even lags
Such as Modern Combat 4
Or GTA maxed out
So do u think its a software or hardware problem...
To start off, I personally think that the high res screen that the nexus 10 has has a large impact on its performance
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Its not the high res screen dude. Its the kernel. If its the high res screen the game wouldn't run smoothly for 15 secs then lag for 5 seconds.

beerope said:
Its not the high res screen dude. Its the kernel. If its the high res screen the game wouldn't run smoothly for 15 secs then lag for 5 seconds.
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In some cases it maybe but check the video in youtube of modern combat 4, overall it just stutters
But for GTA ur right maybe its kernel problem
My 2 cents
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Glad someone brought this up. Mine lags in vice city at 80 PC resolution. N.o.v.a. 3 seems to be fine but stutters at times. I tried every benchmarking software out there and they all returned normal scores for the nexus 10. So I really don't know where the problem lies?

Mine starts to lag when the back of the unit gets too warm. Hoping the devs can fix it via kernel or custom rom. But so far though this is the best android tablet for gaming thus far. Gonna have to see though whats going to be released by others at CES next month. I may just return and hopefully they come out with tablets with quadcore exynos and slightly better gpu.
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goodburner said:
Glad someone brought this up. Mine lags in vice city at 80 PC resolution. N.o.v.a. 3 seems to be fine but stutters at times. I tried every benchmarking software out there and they all returned normal scores for the nexus 10. So I really don't know where the problem lies?
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But not all the effects are there in nova :banghead:
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aznmode said:
Mine starts to lag when the back of the unit gets too warm. Hoping the devs can fix it via kernel or custom rom. But so far though this is the best android tablet for gaming thus far. Gonna have to see though whats going to be released by others at CES next month. I may just return and hopefully they come out with tablets with quadcore exynos and slightly better gpu.
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Maybe exynos 5 quad also uses t604 just like exynos 4 dual and quad but maybe higher freq....
Check pdanet too
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edwinpang said:
In some cases it maybe but check the video in youtube of modern combat 4, overall it just stutters
But for GTA ur right maybe its kernel problem
My 2 cents
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The MC4 N10 YouTube videos that I've seen are running the leaked MC4. The leaked version had Galaxy S3 specific settings (Edit: I'm wrong about this). The version that you can currently purchase on the N10 is way smoother than the leak. Unfortunately, I uninstalled the copy of MC4, but I suspect that if you open up the android manifest, you'd see different settings. The leak ran at native resolution (Edit: not positive about this). Based on the limited time I played on the N10, I think the production version on the N10 is running at 1/2 resolution, possibly with lower quality textures. It still looks and plays great, but the movement felt a bit "slushy" compared to the iPad version. I highly reccomend the game. The only reason I uninstalled is because I had 40 hours of multiplayer gameplay on the iOS version and was ranked around 300 with nearly all of the weapons purchased. Unfortunately when I log in on the N10 with the same Gameloft Live account, none of the multiplayer progress is carried over. It seems the Android players are on different servers, though I can confirm that WIFI/local multiplayer games are cross platform.
Edit: I'm completely wrong about the AndroidManifest.xml. Both specify xperia play optimized content and the same OpenGL ES version. I'm not sure where the changes are but, the production version plays pretty smooth. If you look at AndroidManifest files for other games, like Shadowgun Deadzone, you can see specifications for texture compression and things like that, but I don't see anything like that for MC4. Sorry for the mistake.

edwinpang said:
Maybe exynos 5 quad also uses t604 just like exynos 4 dual and quad but maybe higher freq....
Check pdanet too
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The Exynos 5 quad is supposed to first be paired with the Mali-T658 GPU, which is similar to ours but with twice as many cores and a few other better things. It also isnt supposed to be out for another couple quarters.

Games seem pretty smooth to me

gabster21 said:
Games seem pretty smooth to me
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As I said no effects. ...
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EniGmA1987 said:
The Exynos 5 quad is supposed to first be paired with the Mali-T658 GPU, which is similar to ours but with twice as many cores and a few other better things. It also isnt supposed to be out for another couple quarters.
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Hopefully but samsung hasn't made ut official so ya who knows
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Tegra compatible

Might have been mentioned before but..it seems the Note 3 is being classified as Tegra compatible as all my previously Tegra only games are working AND seem to be displaying Tegra 3 graphics...Both unbeknownst to me until today..I've been enjoying some superb game play on this beast >
Edit: I have found a few of my Tegra games that still show incompatible, but most are working. Also, THD games are a no go. But I was able to enable Tegra 3 graphics in Dead Trigger 2...omg....sweet..
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D150shorty said:
Might have been mentioned before but..it seems the Note 3 is being classified as Tegra compatible as all my previously Tegra only games are working AND seem to be displaying Tegra 3 graphics...Both unbeknownst to me until today..I've been enjoying some superb game play on this beast >
Edit: I have found a few of my Tegra games that still show incompatible, but most are working. Also, THD games are a no go. But I was able to enable Tegra 3 graphics in Dead Trigger 2...omg....sweet..
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Good to know, Thanks!