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Sorry to be so dense, but I have no idea what this is.could some one explain please. Isit similar to jail breaking of an iphone?
Because I already have downloaded games on my phone that I should of paid for and the it works perfectly fine.
Sorry for the dumb question again
alpystar said:
Sorry to be so dense, but I have no idea what this is.could some one explain please. Isit similar to jail breaking of an iphone?
Because I already have downloaded games on my phone that I should of paid for and the it works perfectly fine.
Sorry for the dumb question again
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Google banned you or what? O_O
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Why_Root#You_never_know
Well "rooting" can be considered like jailbreaking but their are a few key differences (I have rooted and jailbroke before). Since Android offers many of the features iPhone doesent offer without jaybreak, rooting and Android allows the user to access many of the hidden features like setting the speed of the CPU. Rooting also allows custom roms to be installed on your phone. Roms are basically a moded version of the software your phone runs. A popular type of Rom called "Cyanogen" is available for a wide variety of Android devices. Rooting also allows free wireless tethering to your phone. What that means is that your phone emits WiFi and and of your WiFi powered devices such as an ipod or laptop can connect to it. Since rooting allows full user access to the processes of the Android phone, you warentee is also voided. But if you know what you want and how to keep your phone running then give it a shot. If you are new to the field rooting I would read more about it and how to fix it in recovery mode if you want to unroot your phone. I hope this helps.
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Its a reference to the underlying linux system, and goes back to Unix. Root was the primary user or superuser, and so root level access was the key to full admin control.
Your phone by default presents you with a limited user access, generally for your own good, by protecting access to files and folders you shouldnt normally access. Rooting refers to achieving full unrestricted access to the phone, thus enabling you to go beyond the normal user and start mucking about under the hood.
Quick question, since i stumbled upon this thread:
- Have there been cases of attempts at rooting carrier locked phones that resulted in bricks? Or is it generally safe to root carrier locked devices (if any Frenchies see this, i'm talking about SFR, Orange... more specifically.)
Cheers
Hi everybody,
I just moved from an iphone 3g (which i had jailbroken) to an incredible thanks to at&t contract finally finishing. Hv rooted the inc on my mac using the unrevoked method. Everything works fine (still have stock eclair 2.1 and sense running). Hv installed a bunch of apps from the market but hv not sideloaded anything yet or uninstalled anything (htc sense etc etc) yet. I would really appreciate some guidance from the community on the following since i am very new to the platform as a whole.
1. I dont want to lose the ability to update to the official froyo release (whenever it happens) so will I have to unroot (if thats even possible) to get the froyo update? If yes, whats the correct way so that I can bookmark that.
2. I want to be able to use the tethering without paying 20$ extra per month to VZ (in fact would probably use USB tethering to my macbook more often than wifi tethering/hotspot, but obviously I would like both! ). How should i do that? Obviously the stock app will just alert verizon, right? Is there another app that will work now that i hv rooted? Any special instructions to follow?
3. Would like to optimize the capability of the device by removing crapware and useless stuff which comes with the phone. Hv not yet even figured out what each app does yet. I will use my inc primarily for entertainment - games, social networking, browsing, streaming music, videos, google voice, true VoIP (not official VZ skype), GPS navigation, tethering (when no wifi) but will be OTA syncing my office exchange email account, contacts, calendar as well to make this a backup phone to my official bberry. Any suggestions on which apps to remove? Also how should I remove them without bricking the phone. Is there a cleaner method?
4. I actually like Sense even though it seems it uses up some memory - any way i can remove the useless parts of Sense (since I wont be using USB sync and I am sure some other stuff in sense is just bloatware) without losing the other features that look great - to be honest the phone looks too plain without sense (nexus 1 looked really naked). I would like to retain the look and feel of the sense ui.
5. How do I get swype on this? I played with it when i was shopping for android phones on the captivate (which unfortunately was on at&t) and I am amazed at how great that was! I badly badly badly badly need that!!
6. Any standard add-ons, apps which you would recommend for my intended usage?
7. Now that I am rooted which post-root apps should i install to make the inc more useful? Any obvious ones which you would recommend?
8. The people sense widget is just too much, anything a bit saner which is like a launchpad but without the screen wastage?
9. In jailbroken iphones, you could install lockinfo which was a spectacular agglomeration of all things (missed calls, voice mails waiting, email msg list, twitter feed, facebook feed, weather, calendar, tasks, sms msgs) in 1 simple scrollable screen. Anything similar in Sense/HTC widgets/App store? Just one glance would tell me everything.
Sorry, since I am new I decided to ask all questions in 1 shot. Obviously dont expect to have all questions answered by 1 person but if the devs/users can point me in the right direction, with links and some comments, I will greatly appreciate it.
Thanks and hoping to be a contributor to the android community sometime soon as I was in the iphone community until i just could not take at&t anymore.
1.yes you need to unroot to recieve otas
2.there is an app incthe market called wifi tether that is free.
3.look in the theme/app sectiom. there is a skinned version there.
4. adb in recovery os the only way to remove crapware
7-8 . there are not many apps for root users lile there was with cydia.
also, there are many widets avaliable in the android market. there is lots of good apps in the market. explore.
if you have any other questions feel free to pm me amy time.
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1.yes you need to unroot to recieve otas
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No, if you are running the stock rom ou will recieve OTAs. The OTA doesn't magically detect "this phone is rooted."
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No, if you are running the stock rom ou will recieve OTAs. The OTA doesn't magically detect "this phone is rooted."
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doesnt somethong change the ctacerts and otacerts?
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No. it's also not suggested and is reported to have negative side effects.
One important thing, Install Rom Manager from the market.
With this app you can do a backup of the Rom (stock sense and rooted) you're running now and install others to try, if you don't like them just restore the one you had before and done, you can as many back up as you want.
Also check in the theme section and you'll find lots of themes to make your phone look and work beautiful, this also allows you to get to recovery without having to turnoff your phone and install anything you want from the sd card.
Also, if you don't like some of the crap ware that Sense has, there's a post for removing the apps you don't want on Sense and it tell you which ones are safe to remove.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710009
Hope this helps a little.
Some apps for us the rooted...shootme or drocap to take pictures of your screens, titanium backup, wifi tether, etc.
Appreciate the help everybody! Only thing I am still seeking an answer for is swype on my inc if anybody can guide me.
Thanks
khanam said:
Appreciate the help everybody! Only thing I am still seeking an answer for is swype on my inc if anybody can guide me.
Thanks
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Here you go. I use the red skinned Swype, looks great and works great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701198
Thanks! Just realized one more thing. I cant seem to be able to use skype over wifi only. Is this verizon's way of using up my minutes one way or another?
With Gingerbread and Honeycomb being talked about ... I was curious if anyone knows if there are any solutions to two issues that I personally think should be solved.
Web proxy - I use wifi at work but I need to use a proxy to get to the web. I am aware of some techniques to get the proxy working but haven't seen a good, simple way of turning a proxy on and off. The best would be to have the proxy settings associated to the wifi profile.
Incoming Voice Recording - Last time I looked into this there still was no way to directly access the incoming voice ... most programs suggest using speakerphone and it picks up the incoming voice through the mic. This is not a good solution.
For the proxy, you could use an application like Tasker (or Locale) to create a widget to run necessary shell commands to change the network properties. I think. I'd have to play with it a bit to get it to work, I imagine.
For the voice recording, my understanding is that it is a hardware limitation based on where (and at what level) the voice call is processed.
No and no.
Voice is Android system intended limitation, AFAIK.
Proxy switch isn't there yet, and no app has been written for it. Generally, WiFi management isn't quite there yet.
I've seen the proxy configuration screen on cyanogens ROM, have not tried it.
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Very surprising & disappointing that there is no wifi proxy... It is a very basic requirements that should not be missed out.
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Very surprising & disappointing that there is no wifi proxy... It is a very basic requirements that should not be missed out.
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Cyanogen has it. Flash and enjoy.
There is WiFi proxy in custom ROMs, but the problem is that it's global and it can't be turned on-off easily, only through settings.
gravufo said:
Cyanogen has it. Flash and enjoy.
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Come on, it is so basic and should be built-into the stock rom. I am not expecting any mods to do this basic trick. This is the most disappointing thing.
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Come on, it is so basic and should be built-into the stock rom. I am not expecting any mods to do this basic trick. This is the most disappointing thing.
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There are lots of basic things that should be in the stock rom but aren't.
That's what custom ROMs are made for.
If you own a Nexus One and are not even willing to use (or even try) a custom ROM, then you will never fully enjoy the device. Google is RELYING on the openness of Android for people to enjoy their devices...
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There are lots of basic things that should be in the stock rom but aren't.
That's what custom ROMs are made for.
If you own a Nexus One and are not even willing to use (or even try) a custom ROM, then you will never fully enjoy the device. Google is RELYING on the openness of Android for people to enjoy their devices...
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1st, I am a rom and kernel developer
2nd, This proxy thing is so basic that it has been already implemented in ipod touch N years ago.
3rd, while I can (I have) applied the wifi proxy things into MY CUSTOM ROM, I still think that this is a basic thing that should not waste my time to do such a customization
4th, I am sure you are not using wifi proxy and do not realize how important it is
5th, NEXUS one is a great phone. When you first boot it, it asks you for your google account (great!), however, sorry, because you are using wifi proxy, you cannot connect to the internet. So, if you cannot connect to the internet, there is no point for using a "GOOGLE" phone. That is why I say it is a basic thing.
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1st, I am a rom and kernel developer
2nd, This proxy thing is so basic that it has been already implemented in ipod touch N years ago.
3rd, while I can (I have) applied the wifi proxy things into MY CUSTOM ROM, I still think that this is a basic thing that should not waste my time to do such a customization
4th, I am sure you are not using wifi proxy and do not realize how important it is
5th, NEXUS one is a great phone. When you first boot it, it asks you for your google account (great!), however, sorry, because you are using wifi proxy, you cannot connect to the internet. So, if you cannot connect to the internet, there is no point for using a "GOOGLE" phone. That is why I say it is a basic thing.
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No, I do not use a Wifi proxy but I know what it is and I am very aware of how important it is, which is why developers have added it in custom ROMs (like you did).
I am not trying to excuse Google for what they did, I am just saying there are alternatives and solutions to this problem so there is no point in complaining. Google will not be reading this, whining will not make them change their mind.
To add, Google couldn't even get Wifi sleep policy to actually work...ANY device can do that, but not our N1s...That's even more basic. I'm not whining on the forum for that since CM and others have worked-around this issue.
You (or anyone) cannot control Google, live with it.
Hello Guys,
before I start: My apologies for this, I am not quite sure if I am even in the right Topic.
I think of myself as pretty new to Android, but got some experiences in Rooting, Custom Roms and such. But that is already as far as it gets.
Now my Problem: We lost our BES and now my Company decided to go with Android (SG4 I9505) and I have to make it happen :angel:.
1. I Need some Kind of Freeware tool to administer Android Devices (Basic: find device, delete data, restrict Apps)
2. If something like this dont exist (which I dont think-I just havent found it)), I would Need to know if I can use CM 10.2 as our Standard Rom and before you start rolling your eyes with experimental and such....
I have to restrict the phone solely to Telefone, Exchange and some preselected (mostly travel)Tools. NO GAPPS!!! and I think that nightly CM provides this with no problems
To realize this I downloaded the nightly from 18th, I think. I then added some APK´s into \System\app Folder and installed the ROM. This actually worked fine until I updated to phone afterwards via build in updating tool - all Tools were gone.(what did I miss?)
Now, our Standard is SG4 I-9505.
Any ideas on how I could do this? (I couldnt find what I was looking for)
1. Adminster a fleet of androids (free)
2. Customize a Custom ROM for corporate Identity (How to pre-setup Exchange Boot Logo, Lockscreen, etc.)
3. or customize a ROM to the Point it cannot do much except what is in the \System\app Folder and turn off updates
Any link is much appreciated. Sadly there is sooooo much andoid articles out there that I seem to get lost while searching for the right one. Thanks in advance!!!!
AccEss-dEniEd said:
1. Adminster a fleet of androids (free)
2. Customize a Custom ROM for corporate Identity (How to pre-setup Exchange Boot Logo, Lockscreen, etc.)
3. or customize a ROM to the Point it cannot do much except what is in the \System\app Folder and turn off updates
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My guess is I'll get flamed for saying this - but here goes.
Android corporate (MDM) leaves a lot to be desired next to iOS, at least as far as I've been able to find. We manage a lot of iPads and obviously minus the custom ROM we've been able to do it all for little to no cost. We've shied away from Android a lot because of the limited MDM control.
But, since you asked:
1. Meraki Systems Manager (and the accompanying app from Google Play)
2. Good luck with that
3. See number 2
I think the reality is you're going to need to do something to the effect of either cook your own ROM and deploy it or use a tool like CWM to create an "image" that you would then restore to the devices. I did that with a batch of 60+ Nexus 7s and it worked out pretty well.
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With all that said - I would urge your management to reconsider their approach as the world has changed since Blackberry was the only game in town. Yes, still stick with MDM, device location, remote wipe etc. But unless you're dealing with highly sensitive information (exp banking), let people actually USE the device you're giving them. Don't lock it down to where its basically a first generation iPhone. I'm a big fan of giving someone a good tool and letting them use it the way that works best for them, while still keeping the device and more importantly the data under corporate control.
Assuming you have Exchange, does this not provide the management part?
AccEss-dEniEd said:
Hello Guys,
before I start: My apologies for this, I am not quite sure if I am even in the right Topic.
I think of myself as pretty new to Android, but got some experiences in Rooting, Custom Roms and such. But that is already as far as it gets.
Now my Problem: We lost our BES and now my Company decided to go with Android (SG4 I9505) and I have to make it happen :angel:.
1. I Need some Kind of Freeware tool to administer Android Devices (Basic: find device, delete data, restrict Apps)
2. If something like this dont exist (which I dont think-I just havent found it)), I would Need to know if I can use CM 10.2 as our Standard Rom and before you start rolling your eyes with experimental and such....
I have to restrict the phone solely to Telefone, Exchange and some preselected (mostly travel)Tools. NO GAPPS!!! and I think that nightly CM provides this with no problems
To realize this I downloaded the nightly from 18th, I think. I then added some APK´s into \System\app Folder and installed the ROM. This actually worked fine until I updated to phone afterwards via build in updating tool - all Tools were gone.(what did I miss?)
Now, our Standard is SG4 I-9505.
Any ideas on how I could do this? (I couldnt find what I was looking for)
1. Adminster a fleet of androids (free)
2. Customize a Custom ROM for corporate Identity (How to pre-setup Exchange Boot Logo, Lockscreen, etc.)
3. or customize a ROM to the Point it cannot do much except what is in the \System\app Folder and turn off updates
Any link is much appreciated. Sadly there is sooooo much andoid articles out there that I seem to get lost while searching for the right one. Thanks in advance!!!!
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I currently work in the infrastructure of a good sized corporation. We're using IOS with a mixture of android hardware and there's some good news and bad news for what you want to do.
Good news is, like Jpcurrie said, exchange will handle remote wiping and locking the phone down. you can require the phone to use a PIN, remote wipe and and a bit more. As for locating the phone, Google actually has finally built in remote locating of your device and remote wipe as well. There's a couple good apps out there (lookout) will turn on your GPS and allow you to locate the phone and they're free. If you happen to have a virtualized environment with VMware, you could also use VMware View Horizons which builds in a secure sector on the phone and you can remotely manage which apps and files the user can use. the best part of View is you can use a BYOD model and keep corporate data secure. The biggest issue is if you don't happen to already use a VMware architecture it gets pricey quickly.
Here's the rub now. you want to install your own logos on the bootup which you could do by installing a custom ROM. This will void your warranty on the hardware and as it isn't 100% stable you'll be spending a LOT of time trying to keep a consistent environment.
Like netsyd said, talk to management about an MDM, and the branding of the devices, maybe even talk to them about using a BYOD to reduce costs of hardware and administration of that hardware.
Isn´t Knox supposed to allow administrators to only delete the data that belongs to the Corporate account (emails, calendars, tasks, etc.), or an administrator can still force a full device wipe? Sorry if the questions is too basic, I've tried searching around for info on Knox but couldn't find anything besides press releases.
I'm not a network administrator, I'm just a user and my school secure wifi installs a device administrator.
I'm sorry to deviate the topic a little bit from the original.
At Delta we use Air Watch but it's far from free. You can however manage devices and remote wipe. You can also view installed apps and remove what should not be there. Options for device profiles also. I help maintain these devices everyday. Not Free but an MDM is your best bet.
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Hiya,
sorry I didn t answer - kinda was overwhelmed with this Task.
Wanted still to thank you: I did what you suggestet and wanted to let you know where I am now.
1. Meraki = implemented - now runnning 160+ devices. (at no costs)
2. CM12.1 implemented (without GAPPS/no SU)
3. Standard Image/w Apps defined. (Mostly Offline capable Tools like "here" etc.(which actually reduced costs))
4. Since Android has limited capability to be administered in a "real" professional Fashion we mitigated this issue by creating a policy to forbid the user to temper with the device (e.g. Installation of Software/SU etc) yet to allow the Installation of Software manually by us via creating a ticket. We check the Software mainly for "sanity" and malware and install it if ok.
This has been working so far like a charm for us. None of the user were happy to loose the Gapps obviously - but once they had their Software and settled in, all was ok. For the Administering part: Meraki can tell me if Software is beeing installed without our Knowledge, also we see if SM doesnt speak with us anymore. So, for now, we got the most out of the System and I am happy to say: I got minimal Control in a Quality sense. No no more "KO Critera" - and we have implemented Android. Tracking etc. is forbidden in Germany anyway - so we use Meraki mainly to wipe if lost and to check if someone goes against policy.
What is still open:
- I am still working on a way to have the user enter his credentials and automatically enter These in all respective config files. (haven't had much luck - with the absense of SU obviously.
- a Little cosmetics still open (I am still trying to figure out how the theming really works ... I usually f**k up the Pictures and sounds.... but so far making Progress
- with less and less good Android devices coming out (now, I am probably beeing flamed now ) that suits our needs (open bootloader, known/supported CPUs, removable battery, SD Card Slot) - I think we might Switch by Q4/2016.
netsyd said:
My guess is I'll get flamed for saying this - but here goes.
Android corporate (MDM) leaves a lot to be desired next to iOS, at least as far as I've been able to find. We manage a lot of iPads and obviously minus the custom ROM we've been able to do it all for little to no cost. We've shied away from Android a lot because of the limited MDM control.
But, since you asked:
1. Meraki Systems Manager (and the accompanying app from Google Play)
2. Good luck with that
3. See number 2
I think the reality is you're going to need to do something to the effect of either cook your own ROM and deploy it or use a tool like CWM to create an "image" that you would then restore to the devices. I did that with a batch of 60+ Nexus 7s and it worked out pretty well.
Edit:
With all that said - I would urge your management to reconsider their approach as the world has changed since Blackberry was the only game in town. Yes, still stick with MDM, device location, remote wipe etc. But unless you're dealing with highly sensitive information (exp banking), let people actually USE the device you're giving them. Don't lock it down to where its basically a first generation iPhone. I'm a big fan of giving someone a good tool and letting them use it the way that works best for them, while still keeping the device and more importantly the data under corporate control.
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I recently got a nexus 10. I put some stuff on it and I am enjoying it. I have run across a few issues. I found that rooting will fix some of the issues.
1) If I root I will loose everything i just put on, not a huge deal, but is there an option to back-up prior to rooting?
2) I found a toolkit that says it has everything for backing-up, rooting, etc. Is this better then the "easy" way on the root options.
3) Other then being able to watch Hulu on a browser, what does rooting get me? Will I end up with a "modded" play store?
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I recently got a nexus 10. I put some stuff on it and I am enjoying it. I have run across a few issues. I found that rooting will fix some of the issues.
1) If I root I will loose everything i just put on, not a huge deal, but is there an option to back-up prior to rooting?
2) I found a toolkit that says it has everything for backing-up, rooting, etc. Is this better then the "easy" way on the root options.
3) Other then being able to watch Hulu on a browser, what does rooting get me? Will I end up with a "modded" play store?
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Hi,
Rooting is quite a personal thing, I like rooting due to more apps, better system management, etc. Now for the questions:
1) Rooting involves unlocking your bootloader, therefore it will completely wipe your device.
2) Usually I recommend learning and doing everything manually, but I think you can try using a toolkit! I can't tell you which is good and which isn't, so remember to read the whole OP. If you want to backup your apps and data make sure they offer "adb backup" support.
3) AFAIK you can root tranquilly, all the apps I used to use still work fine.
~Lord
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bc320 said:
I recently got a nexus 10. I put some stuff on it and I am enjoying it. I have run across a few issues. I found that rooting will fix some of the issues.
1) If I root I will loose everything i just put on, not a huge deal, but is there an option to back-up prior to rooting?
2) I found a toolkit that says it has everything for backing-up, rooting, etc. Is this better then the "easy" way on the root options.
3) Other then being able to watch Hulu on a browser, what does rooting get me? Will I end up with a "modded" play store?
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I hop between USA and UK and I must in UK use proxy to watch Hulu and when in USA use proxy to watch BBC. To get the proxy to actually work I must root and use proxydroid, it puts the proxy beneath a list of apps like Hulu app and BBC app not just the browser proxy non-root Android offers.
Well XxLordxX already said it..
1. You can back up your apps with Carbon from Clockworkmod from the play store. Then transfer everything you want to keep to your PC.
2. Rooting manually is waaay better and not hard.
3. All apps will work the same but some will have more features/work better. I really like rooting but some people dont for some reason
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