With Gingerbread and Honeycomb being talked about ... I was curious if anyone knows if there are any solutions to two issues that I personally think should be solved.
Web proxy - I use wifi at work but I need to use a proxy to get to the web. I am aware of some techniques to get the proxy working but haven't seen a good, simple way of turning a proxy on and off. The best would be to have the proxy settings associated to the wifi profile.
Incoming Voice Recording - Last time I looked into this there still was no way to directly access the incoming voice ... most programs suggest using speakerphone and it picks up the incoming voice through the mic. This is not a good solution.
For the proxy, you could use an application like Tasker (or Locale) to create a widget to run necessary shell commands to change the network properties. I think. I'd have to play with it a bit to get it to work, I imagine.
For the voice recording, my understanding is that it is a hardware limitation based on where (and at what level) the voice call is processed.
No and no.
Voice is Android system intended limitation, AFAIK.
Proxy switch isn't there yet, and no app has been written for it. Generally, WiFi management isn't quite there yet.
I've seen the proxy configuration screen on cyanogens ROM, have not tried it.
+1
Very surprising & disappointing that there is no wifi proxy... It is a very basic requirements that should not be missed out.
ardatdat said:
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Very surprising & disappointing that there is no wifi proxy... It is a very basic requirements that should not be missed out.
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Cyanogen has it. Flash and enjoy.
There is WiFi proxy in custom ROMs, but the problem is that it's global and it can't be turned on-off easily, only through settings.
gravufo said:
Cyanogen has it. Flash and enjoy.
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Come on, it is so basic and should be built-into the stock rom. I am not expecting any mods to do this basic trick. This is the most disappointing thing.
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Come on, it is so basic and should be built-into the stock rom. I am not expecting any mods to do this basic trick. This is the most disappointing thing.
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There are lots of basic things that should be in the stock rom but aren't.
That's what custom ROMs are made for.
If you own a Nexus One and are not even willing to use (or even try) a custom ROM, then you will never fully enjoy the device. Google is RELYING on the openness of Android for people to enjoy their devices...
gravufo said:
There are lots of basic things that should be in the stock rom but aren't.
That's what custom ROMs are made for.
If you own a Nexus One and are not even willing to use (or even try) a custom ROM, then you will never fully enjoy the device. Google is RELYING on the openness of Android for people to enjoy their devices...
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1st, I am a rom and kernel developer
2nd, This proxy thing is so basic that it has been already implemented in ipod touch N years ago.
3rd, while I can (I have) applied the wifi proxy things into MY CUSTOM ROM, I still think that this is a basic thing that should not waste my time to do such a customization
4th, I am sure you are not using wifi proxy and do not realize how important it is
5th, NEXUS one is a great phone. When you first boot it, it asks you for your google account (great!), however, sorry, because you are using wifi proxy, you cannot connect to the internet. So, if you cannot connect to the internet, there is no point for using a "GOOGLE" phone. That is why I say it is a basic thing.
ardatdat said:
1st, I am a rom and kernel developer
2nd, This proxy thing is so basic that it has been already implemented in ipod touch N years ago.
3rd, while I can (I have) applied the wifi proxy things into MY CUSTOM ROM, I still think that this is a basic thing that should not waste my time to do such a customization
4th, I am sure you are not using wifi proxy and do not realize how important it is
5th, NEXUS one is a great phone. When you first boot it, it asks you for your google account (great!), however, sorry, because you are using wifi proxy, you cannot connect to the internet. So, if you cannot connect to the internet, there is no point for using a "GOOGLE" phone. That is why I say it is a basic thing.
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No, I do not use a Wifi proxy but I know what it is and I am very aware of how important it is, which is why developers have added it in custom ROMs (like you did).
I am not trying to excuse Google for what they did, I am just saying there are alternatives and solutions to this problem so there is no point in complaining. Google will not be reading this, whining will not make them change their mind.
To add, Google couldn't even get Wifi sleep policy to actually work...ANY device can do that, but not our N1s...That's even more basic. I'm not whining on the forum for that since CM and others have worked-around this issue.
You (or anyone) cannot control Google, live with it.
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Hey guys.
I'm now looking for a bachelor thesis and I was thinking about writing an android application.
Preferably one of which aren't millions out there and a more complex one (using GPS and stuff).
So I'm hoping you could help me. Do you have any tips ?
Cool idea! good luck with this.
Unfortunately i can't think of anything my phone can't already do
May be some thing like an android firewall, which pops up when an applications initially try to connect to internet asking if we want to allow or reject the connection and remember the choice.. You know.. Much like an OS firewall. Something like littlesnitch (MacOS)
I dunno if this is possible, but would be great.
How about a GUI for bluetooth..
See what's connected and easily transfer files to another device..
I would double request for interactive firewall
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Interactive firewall, that remembers your settings for each Application based on your GPS co-ordinates & the network you are connected to (Wifi, mobile and the IP range on the Wifi network - or options to that effect ) That's some advanced stuff to do!
Maybe build a complete network tool on top of the firewall? one that does subnet/CIDR calculating, pinging, MTR, tracerouting/pathping, SMTP/POP3 checker etc
I'd use it for sure!
Thanks for the ideas.
The BT GUI looks more interesting to me, but I see there's a bigger demand on the firewall.
Aren't there any similar firewall apps out there ?
I found Droid wall... Anyone tried it yet ?
On the other hand, I didn't find any BT app...
btw keep 'em comin'
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I found Droid wall... Anyone tried it yet ?
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Yup, i'm using it, but... Always after installing new app i keep forgeting to set up rules for it on Droid Wall So interactive firewall would be awesome.
There are two apps I want that don't exist. One is dead simple - a timed SMS sender. How often have I thought "must text Mum about X" at past her bedtime, then forgot to send it come the morning. It would be well handy to be able to specify a send time for a message.
Other is location-aware to-do/reminder. Most "Remind Me" apps work on times - either set times or countdowns. That's not how I roll. I want reminding when I get somewhere, not at a time.
"Remind me of $message when I get [home|work]"
Where $home = joining wireless network "HomeNet" and $work = joining wireless network "Worknet"
You could also do notifications on leaving those networks - "When I leave work, remind me to pick up milk/eggs"
There are GPS versions of these, but I'm not leaving my GPS on all day just for one thing. Wifi is accurate enough for me (although you could build in GPS as well, for added accuracy if want/needed by the user)
Hand-written notes (a la Staesj) is good too. As is speech-to-text notes.
Those are all good ideas. I'd use all of 'em. Lol
Good luck mate!
johnnytruant - that is a BRILLIANT idea !!
Already contacted my professor.
If he won't agree with it, I think I'll stick with the firewall (if no one has a better idea).
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There are two apps I want that don't exist. One is dead simple - a timed SMS sender. How often have I thought "must text Mum about X" at past her bedtime, then forgot to send it come the morning. It would be well handy to be able to specify a send time for a message.
Other is location-aware to-do/reminder. Most "Remind Me" apps work on times - either set times or countdowns. That's not how I roll. I want reminding when I get somewhere, not at a time.
"Remind me of $message when I get [home|work]"
Where $home = joining wireless network "HomeNet" and $work = joining wireless network "Worknet"
You could also do notifications on leaving those networks - "When I leave work, remind me to pick up milk/eggs"
There are GPS versions of these, but I'm not leaving my GPS on all day just for one thing. Wifi is accurate enough for me (although you could build in GPS as well, for added accuracy if want/needed by the user)
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These are pretty much all already covered by Tasker...
Ah. I didn't know about Tasker.
Still, an easy-to-use, single-purpose location-aware reminder/notes app is probably more useful to more people - plenty of non-techie types, who would likely be scared of Tasker - would definitely find such a thing useful.
So I finally got this app as my bc thesis.
Get ready for the best organizer ever
There's gonna be a usual calendar, plus location based reminders, plus friend location based reminders, notes (usual/voice, with/without notification) and alarms (with shake/flip/cover/voice-to-snooze), web-sync, and much more
Personally the main thing I've been dying for is SAMBA shares from my phone, but without having to root. If this was possible (or at least easy to do) I'm sure it would have been done by now, though.
Otherwise I think a facebook video uploader would be nice. I can't share more than 1 at a time with the onboard apps and have never found anything better, so I end up using Qik and sharing them to facebook from there.
Another idea (which has already been done, poorly) is to use your phone as a mouse/keyboard. I am not sure how many apps there are for this, but the last one I used (I forget the name) was pretty terrible. It's handy for HTPCs. The app itself wasn't the big problem, it was the Windows server program. It would take focus randomly, freeze, and there was no good way to hide it other than minimizing it.
grandioso said:
Hey guys.
I'm now looking for a bachelor thesis and I was thinking about writing an android application.
Preferably one of which aren't millions out there and a more complex one (using GPS and stuff).
So I'm hoping you could help me. Do you have any tips ?
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No gps, but a video player (with flv support) that works on azure would be very useful to many people
grandioso said:
So I finally got this app as my bc thesis.
Get ready for the best organizer ever
There's gonna be a usual calendar, plus location based reminders, plus friend location based reminders, notes (usual/voice, with/without notification) and alarms (with shake/flip/cover/voice-to-snooze), web-sync, and much more
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sounds great
what's the best music player ?
rewen said:
Personally the main thing I've been dying for is SAMBA shares from my phone, but without having to root. If this was possible (or at least easy to do) I'm sure it would have been done by now, though.
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estrong file manager can access pc samba shares no problem...not sure if thats what your wanting to do though...
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I quite like Cubed.
OK guys I'm so sick of this issue. Basically from my research there are thousands upon thousands of people with Android devices who go to university, or work in an office that uses a WiFi connection with wpa-enterprise or whatever and they can't use the net because there's no f**king proxy settings on Android. SO, this thread is meant to CLEARLY explain how to get proxy settings and hence use the net at uni and in the office or whatever. Calm down, I'm about to make life much easier
First of all there is no stock rom that lets you do this on a Legend (at the moment) so the only way to get the settings is for you to root your phone. Now there's like a thousand guides on how to do this but the best one I've found is this. Anyways!
Next thing you have to do if pick a rom to run which has the proxy settings. Now I might add here that everything I'm saying from now on pretty much is for the Legend only ie the roms I mention and.. yeah. So the best rom to use at the moment in my opinion is CyanogenMod which you can find in Legend Development. It's perfect really. Feel free to try other roms but generally they need to be froyo based and you can check if you can do all this proxy stuff straight away by checking the wireless and networks section in the settings area of your phone. If there is a proxy settings section then yeah you can do it.
So yeah, once you're on one of these roms check that you actually have "proxy settings" in the wireless and networks section of your phone, which I might add only lets you use the internet via a browser ONLY. The next thing you need to do is install an app called "transparent proxy" which you can find here. This app lets you use apps via a proxy as well as the browser and thus giving you FULL internet access (use version 2.04 or higher). Another app I've heard that is meant to work as well is called "orbot" which you can find on the market.
If you do a google search you'll see issue 1273 which is all about this proxy issue and its been going on for over 2 years now. I dunno what google's problem is.. but at least thanks to some people it IS in fact possible to get the internet working via proxy on wifi.. you just gotta go to a bit of effort, well I know I did to figure all this ^ out.
Remember if you have anything to add or correct let me know, cheers.
Cool thread, really useful. But:
curto said:
The other ROM which I'm sure works is CyanogenMod but beware, this one is a little outdated and I don't think its being updated anymore..
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How wrong can you be. Both Azure and Indigo Bean are based on CyanogenMod (versions 6 and 5.0.8 respectively). Version 6.1 of CM is under heavy development, and it will replace Azure as it's the first version to officially support the Legend. There are nightly builds of CM for our phones, so every day something changes. It's about as actively developed on as Android itself.
Also, what did you write your post in? Why are there so many line breaks?
TheGrammarFreak said:
Cool thread, really useful. But:
How wrong can you be. Both Azure and Indigo Bean are based on CyanogenMod (versions 6 and 5.0.8 respectively). Version 6.1 of CM is under heavy development, and it will replace Azure as it's the first version to officially support the Legend. There are nightly builds of CM for our phones, so every day something changes. It's about as actively developed on as Android itself.
Also, what did you write your post in? Why are there so many line breaks?
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhh no no mate you misunderstood, sorry I see now I wasn't clear enough. I didn't mean CyanogenMod in general was outdated and not being updated anymore. I meant that one in the roms section "[ROM] CyanogenMod 6.0.0-RC2 for HTC Legend" by kyosa. Sorry, I'll fix that up in the main post. And yeah what I've done is just pressed enter a lot to make the paragraphs look like that.. I kinda didn't know how to make a big essay readable so I just did that. I don't think it worked haha, let me adjust it. I'll try and eventually make it looks like a lot of the other guides when I get some more info and more response.
We really need to rally and get Google to fix some major issues with the Android OS. If Android is going to be truly universal and be able to compete, and beat Apple, it needs to at least be able to do what it can do. Please read: http://claar.org/blog/?p=180 and call, email, post, blog, whatever you can to get Googles attention on these issues.
And thank you for your support.
P.S. Pass this url on to every android user you can.
http://claar.org/blog/?p=180
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You have a legitimate argument but those items you listed are never performed by me. =[ Sorry. Everything I need done, works. =]
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Android still has a way to go before being all things to all people. It has the potential though so i'm sure we'll see improvements in the areas where it's currently weak.
Nice write up though. I hope these issues are resolved for you soon.
Write your congressman. Attend your local PTA meeting.
Don't gey me wrong, I love my Android phone, just saying that Google is missing the boat on the Enterprise side of things. Used to have an iPod touch that worked flawlessly on our corporate intranet, can't say the same for my dinc. As the workforce continues to become more mobile, they'll be carrying iPads instead of Xooms or Galaxy tabs.
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are there really people who use android's and ipad's/iphone's for work???
o-o?
id rater use a PC or laptop. but yha.
think all the company's want to be cool?
i cant go suport this.because my android does what it needs to do.
remember. smartphones and tablets aren't pc's,so they shouldn't do the work of a pc.
ghost010 said:
are there really people who use android's and ipad's/iphone's for work???
o-o?
id rater use a PC or laptop. but yha.
think all the company's want to be cool?
i cant go suport this.because my android does what it needs to do.
remember. smartphones and tablets aren't pc's,so they shouldn't do the work of a pc.
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Why shouldnt they? Why should they have limitations. I say the more capabilities the better!
Universally, I don't understand Googles LACK of contact and attention to it's customers. Like most people are aware that e-mailing google is a complete WASTE OF TIME. I'd love to meet someone who has yet to actually get a meaningful response from google. I understand that they are a HUGE company and can easily get overwhelmed by emails, but the complete lack of response in general is UNACCEPTABLE. Why do they act this way, ESPECIALLY to their customers? Eitherway, they should respond in some way to all emails, understandable for free products, but for PAYING customers like us Android users, should get a response.
Google is worse than Sprint when it comes to response. I don't get it or understand.
I'm an IT Director for a medium sized medical manufacturing company and I've been testing ipads as a laptop alternative for our salesforce, and I have to say, I would be absolutely pissed if I had to use an ipad(or any tablet for that matter) for work.
Don't get me wrong. They work. But do you want to do all your work on them? HELL NO.
I have a remote desktop app on my mytouch 4g and I use it every now and then when I need to fix something or get onto the server for any reason. That doesn't mean I'm going to ditch my computer because my phone is capable of doing something my laptop does. Tablets, smartphones, mobile devices in general...they should be used to supplement computers, not replace them.
And as far as google 'not listening to their customers', you obviously haven't been on any sort of development team before. Especially not one that had any sort of fast progress. I don't know if you've noticed, but chip manufacturers have released dual core mobile cpu's. So google can either work on your vpn problem and appease a small number of enterprise users(people who will actually use a vpn on their phones), or they can concentrate on optimizing their code so it will work well with the next generation of hardware. They're obviously going to concentrate their manpower(or womanpower) on development for next-gen hardware. If the support ticket exists, they'll work on it. But there are thousands of them, and people need to realize that just because it's important to you specifically, doesn't mean it's an important problem. VPN access doesn't effect the overall functionality of the os during normal use, so it's going be put on the back burner, that doesn't mean it won't be fixed.
And whoever said go to pta meetings, PTA = parent teachers association. Good luck getting heard there.
While on the subject of fixes, I'm more concerned about linked market data and being able to transfer purchases to different accounts. I.E. switching from a google apps account to a gmail account. Also, the 'master account' crap. There should be a way to change which login you use to connect to gtalk and the market without having to reset your device to factory. That just sucks.
LOL, I used to get those "wake-up" calls from the 3rd shift platform operators. I got my butt out of bed, got on my PC and fixed the problem or marked it "next day" and fixed it when I got to work.
I can't see using a phone's screen size to debug a couple hundred lines of JCL or batch COBOL program Not to mention, I was usually talking to the operator at the same time I needed to see something on the PC; very hard to do with a phone.
Can it connect to Microsoft's pptp? Yes - http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/smartphones/connect-to-a-pptp-vpn-from-your-android-phone/2145
problem 1. You can connect to a proxy (unless i'm not understanding your complaint) There's Proxy options under the settings menu.
Problem 2. I've noticed this but apparently some 3rd party browsers can do it.
Problem 3. Not sure about this one, but i connect to many different networks (public, domestic and at uni) and have never had a problem like this.
What you're saying is that you have various problems that the vast majority of people will never experience and you are wondering why Google aren't dropping everything to fix it immediately? These problems (to me at least) seem incredibly minor.
kccasey said:
Universally, I don't understand Googles LACK of contact and attention to it's customers. Like most people are aware that e-mailing google is a complete WASTE OF TIME. I'd love to meet someone who has yet to actually get a meaningful response from google. I understand that they are a HUGE company and can easily get overwhelmed by emails, but the complete lack of response in general is UNACCEPTABLE. Why do they act this way, ESPECIALLY to their customers? Eitherway, they should respond in some way to all emails, understandable for free products, but for PAYING customers like us Android users, should get a response.
Google is worse than Sprint when it comes to response. I don't get it or understand.
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Because they already have your money, therefor they could care less. And they will continue to get your money, his money, her money etc because they make a product and provide a service that we all have come to rely on. They've got the hook set, you can't break free and they can let us dangle as long as they want.
But maybe the combination of google, samsung, and verizon has destroyed my outlook.
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I think many of these issues will take a long long time to see resolved.
You need to consider what motivates google RE Android. Hint: It is not paying customers.
Thing is, normal market forces are not at work in the Android space. This is
my BIGGEST issue with Android.
@andmiller
You don't think your needs are most important ones, do you? There are many, many things to do, not only these mentioned by you.
For me your "This is Important" bugs are minor. Actually I didn't know about them to this time. I care much more about NDK APIs, performance and UI improvements and this is exactly what Google does.
Also there is one good reason to focus on new APIs, standard libraries, developer tools, etc.: Google is only one who can improve them and sooner is better. They could fix bugs at any time, they could also port them to older versions of OS. But if they add new API, it will take some time for developers to use it, because new API won't be supported by most of devices. So it's much better to work on a new features first and fix minor bugs later.
BobPaul said:
I think many of these issues will take a long long time to see resolved.
You need to consider what motivates google RE Android. Hint: It is not paying customers.
Thing is, normal market forces are not at work in the Android space. This is
my BIGGEST issue with Android.
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You have got that completely backwards. Iphone is not normal market space. Each manufacturer running android os have to set themselves apart from each other, hence skinning the os. If customers demand, need it, it will get fixed or innovated.
Apple controls all, What they say goes. Example: no flash, theming....
Amazon drops their android app store on tues. Why, market forces.
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hey dude most of those issuses were fix sort of well i wouldnt say fix because google came out with a whole new O.S. most of ur issuses hav been resolved in the honeycomb os and greater but u dont need a fix u need a app that can handle what u need
> Can it connect to Microsoft's pptp? Yes - http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/sma...oid-phone/2145
No, or at least, not for several hundred people at least, some who have even provided logs of both sides of the conversation. Some bug comments are from companies, representing complaints from their customer base, so it is probably more. I could write an article that shows how to do it, too, but that doesn't mean that I've tested all combinations. If the author's VPN was not encrypted, he wouldn't have seen the problem, and--since his connection worked, and there's that encryption checkbox--he might have just assumed it worked. He might have even tried it: You can connect with encryption, you just can't stay connected for any length of time.
> problem 1. You can connect to a proxy (unless i'm not understanding your complaint) There's Proxy options under the settings menu.
I can manually set a proxy, although there are reports that this is not a standard part of android, but a value-add by the phone mfr. A third-party program could perhaps recognize which WAP I connect to and set values accordingly, but only if I want everything to go through the proxy, and not just some things. That would have worked at HP, but my ulterior motive is to proxy a specific blocked port so that I can pop my email to my wifi tab. OK, I'll admit, my actual reason isn't a compelling case for Google! ;-)
> Problem 2. I've noticed this but apparently some 3rd party browsers can do it.
I'm not surprised that some clever programmer patched around the breakage, but it needs to be solved generally. Really, this and VPN are the most important issues for me.
> Problem 3. Not sure about this one, but i connect to many different networks (public, domestic and at uni) and have never had a problem like this.
You have never had a problem like this that you know of! Most folks have been bitten by this when the run into a place with short leases, and only find out--if they do--by accident, since most places don't check for violators.
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For the person who asserted that these are fixed in the latest release, that doesn't appear to be the case, according to the bug reports.
Are there really people who use their portable device for work? Not if it is android-based! (I know, cheap shot, but--for many of us--a true statement).
I have a galaxy tab. With working VPN and ssh, I could login and do a simple database change "echo blah blah blah|mysql", restart a job, whatever. I'm not going to write a couple of thousand lines of code, but I might look at a couple of thousand lines of a log file! Instead, I have to fire up the PC, which means I have to be around the PC, and I'd rather have the freedom of mobility.
So I just got my asus transformer the other day, and coming from an avid iPhone/iOS background, I feel a bit let down. In no way am I a fanboy, but theres issues im having with this android device that have never been as such with iOS.
Mainly, proxy settings! I was fortunate enough to get my device a day before the 3.1 update came out, and the update brought with it native support for manually setting the proxies.
unfortunately, these settings dont work. I set it up to work with my workplaces proxy server and even though the info is there, they dont work. not only that, they only apply to the browser. Two huge issues!! Now most people would just discard the device and go back to what theyre used to, but I want to give this device a chance before I (possibly) return it to the store.
Are there any apps for 3.1 that set a UNIVERSAL proxy setting? Something that not only will work, but also apply the proxy settings to youtube, the market place, and anything else that runs on the device. Before the update came out, I tried using AnyCut to setup a shortcut to the hidden proxy settings, but even then it was shoddy at best. Half the time id click on the link and it wouldnt even open up the proxy settings page. (note, Half. it did work sometimes)
Essentially, if I cant get this thing to run at work, its going back and will be exchanged for an Acer Iconia running win7. I really hope theres a solution here!
Yeah, I'm quite disappointed with the proxy support in they included in the update. If they couldn't apply it to everything, at least update the core apps to use it. I mean, I can't even get my email over the proxy.
i used to use TransProxy on my phone and it worked great.
you may not be happy about a honeycomb tablet, but a Windows 7 tablet wil absolutely drive you mad ..
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so I searched for TransProxy in the market place. and found something called ProxyDroid.
tried it, what the hell, and it works Better. I still cant get the facebook app / mobile facebook site to work. but its a step ahead of the silly native proxy support. hmmm never had to go through any of this crap on my iPhone. grr
Possable hack or glitch, that is why I am posting here.
According to a few sites, a glitch has been discovered by setting a proxy, you can make your non-nokia phone be able install apps from Nokia's apps.
Sites for info...
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/...n&a=http://www.wpdang.com/archives/98835.html
http://www.wpdang.com/archives/98835.html
http://www.wpcentral.com/glitch-spotted-windows-phone-store-lumia-apps
Does anyone have clear directions on this so everyone knows how to do it?
Also, I am hoping this would allow us to get to the point of a Marketplace Changer like we used to have for WP7 devices.. I personally would like some HTC apps on my Nokia...and a LG app too.
Figured this would be a great place to start a discussion on this.
The basic "hack" is dead simple, actually. In a way, this is easier than the old Marketplace Switching apps; those worked by changing some configuration files on the phone; this works by editing the communication between the phone and the Marketplace servers *as if* those files had been changed.
It's probably worth the time to write up a small utility to do this yourself, rather than relying on a third party proxy (never a good plan if you don't have to do it). It might even be possible to make the proxy run as an app on the phone itself (it would need to be sideloaded, since there's no way MS would permit such a thing, and you'd probably still need to be on WiFi, but it might be possible).
DavidinCT said:
Possable hack or glitch, that is why I am posting here.
According to a few sites, a glitch has been discovered by setting a proxy, you can make your non-nokia phone be able install apps from Nokia's apps.
Sites for info...
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/...n&a=http://www.wpdang.com/archives/98835.html
http://www.wpdang.com/archives/98835.html
http://www.wpcentral.com/glitch-spotted-windows-phone-store-lumia-apps
Does anyone have clear directions on this so everyone knows how to do it?
Also, I am hoping this would allow us to get to the point of a Marketplace Changer like we used to have for WP7 devices.. I personally would like some HTC apps on my Nokia...and a LG app too.
Figured this would be a great place to start a discussion on this.
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Guyz, I've tried this on my Huawei W1 but its says, cannot connect,,,,,,,,,, ive also tried changing the region but nothing happens, does anyone tried this already, and successfully installed those nokia exclusive apps?
Thank you,
jakelq said:
Guyz, I've tried this on my Huawei W1 but its says, cannot connect,,,,,,,,,, ive also tried changing the region but nothing happens, does anyone tried this already, and successfully installed those nokia exclusive apps?
Thank you,
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it is time based. I mean, sometimes it happens. sometime it doesnt. keep trying is all I can say.
GH0ST DR0NE said:
it is time based. I mean, sometimes it happens. sometime it doesnt. keep trying is all I can say.
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yup, i tried this at home and it worked..
It runs smooth with huawei w1 and i dont experience any missed swipes.
Why does it wasnt released for 512 mb ram?
tnx.
GoodDayToDie said:
The basic "hack" is dead simple, actually. In a way, this is easier than the old Marketplace Switching apps; those worked by changing some configuration files on the phone; this works by editing the communication between the phone and the Marketplace servers *as if* those files had been changed.
It's probably worth the time to write up a small utility to do this yourself, rather than relying on a third party proxy (never a good plan if you don't have to do it). It might even be possible to make the proxy run as an app on the phone itself (it would need to be sideloaded, since there's no way MS would permit such a thing, and you'd probably still need to be on WiFi, but it might be possible).
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I would gladly test (I am dev unlocked) anything you can come up with here.
Anything that could help progress towards a hack on WP8, even if it's a marketplace changer of some type
aclegg2011 said:
Man, we really need to find a way to dev unlock our phones. :/
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The same process (dreamspark EDU account, etc) that worked for WP7 works on WP8 but, the limits of 3 apps are still there... So I can sideload 3 apps..
DavidinCT said:
The same process (dreamspark EDU account, etc) that worked for WP7 works on WP8 but, the limits of 3 apps are still there... So I can sideload 3 apps..
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I have an edu account activated since december 2011. I had on my Omnia W (WP 7.5) only the possibility to sideload 3 apps, but now on my lumia 820 i DONT have this limit of 3 apps..
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I have an edu account activated since december 2011. I had on my Omnia W (WP 7.5) only the possibility to sideload 3 apps, but now on my lumia 820 i dont have this limit of 3 apps..
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I have a Lumia 928, and I dev unlocked it(got one of those free EDU accounts that was going around, I log in 2 times a year), I put on 3 apps and it gives me an error if I try to add more.
I would like to add more but, No biggie because there is not 3rd party tools or hacks for WP8....YET.
DavidinCT said:
I have a Lumia 928, and I dev unlocked it(got one of those free EDU accounts that was going around, I log in 2 times a year), I put on 3 apps and it gives me an error if I try to add more.
I would like to add more but, No biggie because there is not 3rd party tools or hacks for WP8....YET.
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I dont mind but it seems that my account has a bug..?!?
GoodDayToDie said:
The basic "hack" is dead simple, actually. In a way, this is easier than the old Marketplace Switching apps; those worked by changing some configuration files on the phone; this works by editing the communication between the phone and the Marketplace servers *as if* those files had been changed.
It's probably worth the time to write up a small utility to do this yourself, rather than relying on a third party proxy (never a good plan if you don't have to do it). It might even be possible to make the proxy run as an app on the phone itself (it would need to be sideloaded, since there's no way MS would permit such a thing, and you'd probably still need to be on WiFi, but it might be possible).
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Here is a question on this. Is there a list of "proxies" for different carriers/OEMS ? I could not find anything besides this one. Do you know how I can access HTC, Samsung, LG, etc list ?
How does one access the marketplace of another OEM than Nokia ? (I have a Nokia so that is not an issue for me)
It's just a matter of changing the ID string for the phone when it's talking to the Marketplace servers. I'll look into writing a tool to do it.
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It's just a matter of changing the ID string for the phone when it's talking to the Marketplace servers. I'll look into writing a tool to do it.
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Awsome, I look forward to something ! Thanks !
GoodDayToDie said:
It's just a matter of changing the ID string for the phone when it's talking to the Marketplace servers. I'll look into writing a tool to do it.
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Hi ,GoodDayToDie
Try fiddler2 to modify the request send by the phone when talking to the Marketplace servers.
I have made some research and it's intresting.....
@Mattemoller90: Yes, but I can't promise that the app will install correctly afterward. Apps identify, in their manifests, the resolutions they support. If the app requires resolution that the phone doesn't have, the phone will most likely simply refuse to install it.
@GoodDayToDie
How can I cheat the Marketplace with Fiddler2 (for change the resolution) I want try
You are the best
Eh, I'm not going to write a full tutorial right now. Short version is install Fiddler, set it to proxy external connections (will need to be let through your firewall), set your phone to use your PC's IP address and Fiddler's listening port as the proxy, set Fiddler to intercept requests, and then open the Marketplace. You'll see an HTTP GET request from the phone to Microsoft's servers, and the URL will contain a bunch of details about your phone (manufacturer, model, version info, region, etc.) including resolution. Replace the resolution string with the one you want to pretend to have, then have Fiddler "Run to completion".
Note: You'll probably have to do this multiple times. It's OK to not do it for things like partial searches, but you'll of course need to do it for the final search query. It can be scripted, but that's outside the scope of what I'm going to tell you to do here. Look at how @xdevilium does it in his app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2362165
Can fiddler be used for other things? Like seeing where server updates are coming from, and how are phones interacts with developer registration?
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In theory, yes it can (or any other HTTP/HTTPS proxy; there are several of them available). However, the functions you describe use HTTPS. To intercept SSL traffic, the proxy needs to forge certificates for the sites you connect to (unless it somehow got ahold of the site's private key). To have your phone trust the forged certificates, the proxy (including Fiddler, if you choose to enable it) can sign the forged certificates using its own private key; if the corresponding public key is trusted by the phone (which can be done just by sending the public key to the phone using email or bluetooth or something, and installing it) then the forged signatures will be trusted.
However, that's only true for the general case. For specific OS functionality, Microsoft (and all the other big mobile vendors) use a technique called "certificate pinning" where the SSL certificate must either exactly match a known certifiacte, or must be signed by an exact match. In this case, it doesn't work to install your proxy's certificate and have it be trusted; a feature using cert pinning doesn't even check the OS's trust store. Therefore, we can't intercept those specific communications.
It's frustrating.
I've never scripted Fiddler, I just re-wrote the requests by hand. It's easy enough; there aren't very many. I could tell you how to do it in a couple other proxy programs.
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I could tell you how to do it in a couple other proxy programs.
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