I had a possibility to compare HTC One and HTC One X side by side. I couldnt believe my eyes - 8MP camera of HTC One X couldnt even match up, HTC One photo is soo crisp and cristal clear and ..ohh, ahh. ISO rating goes up to 1600 but when comparing at ISO 100, photo is absolutely few times brighter than HOX.
Now the screens. I really like my HOXs screen. But than I compared it at full brightness with HTC One.
this happened:
https://twitter.com/miHah1/status/306137264126316544
/jelous, can you run only "GLBenchmark 2.5 Egypt HD offscreen or onscreen(1080)" on it ?
That One X screen looks really dark...Not a fair test
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That One X screen looks really dark...Not a fair test
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He states both at full brightness
Dude please can you do the same under sunlight?
The OneX was just good so I hope the One is better
Unless you've disabled the 'Reduce screen brightness' in your Powersaver options then regardless of how high you set your screen brightness - It'll never be at maximum.
There is no way that's maximum brightness, it would hurt your eyes in such dark conditions.
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Unless you've disabled the 'Reduce screen brightness' in your Powersaver options then regardless of how high you set your screen brightness - It'll never be at maximum.
There is no way that's maximum brightness, it would hurt your eyes in such dark conditions.
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I don't use power saving for anything but cpu downclock, I forgot to mention that.
both phones are at the highest brightness, the thing is that HTC One is so much brighter that camera automaticaly lowers exposure of picture and makes HTC One X so dark.
HTC One has absolutely one of the best screens out there! No doubt!
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I had a possibility to compare HTC One and HTC One X side by side. I couldnt believe my eyes - 8MP camera of HTC One X couldnt even match up, HTC One photo is soo crisp and cristal clear and ..ohh, ahh. ISO rating goes up to 1600 but when comparing at ISO 100, photo is absolutely few times brighter than HOX.
Now the screens. I really like my HOXs screen. But than I compared it at full brightness with HTC One.
this happened:
https://twitter.com/miHah1/status/306137264126316544
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So the pictures you took with the HTC One looked better then the pictures taken with the One X? I'm more interested in that. I want to see the screen in person really badly, but I already know its going to look better then every other screen out there. :laugh:
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So the pictures you took with the HTC One looked better then the pictures taken with the One X? I'm more interested in that. I want to see the screen in person really badly, but I already know its going to look better then every other screen out there. :laugh:
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The reason why pictures taken with HTC One looks better than with HTC One X:
1. HTC One has optical stabilization, which means even if you move just a little bit, image will be still so it will not be blurry and have more details. The difference between HTC One and HTC One X is similar as in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q8k7KnMUe8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
2. HTC One lets more light in so it can produce more detailed picture. "the more the light = higher shutter speed = less blur = more detail". At same conditions HTC One X lets less light in so it needs slower shutter speed and creates blurry pictures.
3. HTC One has 4MP widescreen, and HTC One X only has 6MP if you are shooting widescreen so HTC One X actually has only 20% more MP than HTC One which has nothing to do with image quality. It only matters when you crop the image but again, if you crop image from One X that is just a bit bigger but has less light, slower shutter speed and almost always some blur the results are ..lets say "not useful for cropping".
4. HTC One has ISO from 100-1600 and HTC One X only has 100-800. Again that means HTC One lets more light in and image is more detailed and is not blurred that much. But high ISO means more noise on the other hand. Comparing ISO 800 between the phones = more noise on HTC One X and also less light - double win for HTC One.
So what are actually MP good for? Cropping. Period.
when you hit certain number of MP, it has no effect if you still raise them up. It is like a gas in a car..car needs some gas to run, if you give it more gas it will be heavier and consequently less efficient and slower but it will still run as if it would have "just enough" gas. But when you have a faster/sports car it will require more gas - like the "big" cameras with bigger sensor size can have more MP.
Have a nice day
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The reason why pictures taken with HTC One looks better than with HTC One X:
1. HTC One has optical stabilization, which means even if you move just a little bit, image will be still so it will not be blurry and have more details. The difference between HTC One and HTC One X is similar as in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q8k7KnMUe8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
2. HTC One lets more light in so it can produce more detailed picture. "the more the light = higher shutter speed = less blur = more detail". At same conditions HTC One X lets less light in so it needs slower shutter speed and creates blurry pictures.
3. HTC One has 4MP widescreen, and HTC One X only has 6MP if you are shooting widescreen so HTC One X actually has only 20% more MP than HTC One which has nothing to do with image quality. It only matters when you crop the image but again, if you crop image from One X that is just a bit bigger but has less light, slower shutter speed and almost always some blur the results are ..lets say "not useful for cropping".
4. HTC One has ISO from 100-1600 and HTC One X only has 100-800. Again that means HTC One lets more light in and image is more detailed and is not blurred that much. But high ISO means more noise on the other hand. Comparing ISO 800 between the phones = more noise on HTC One X and also less light - double win for HTC One.
So what are actually MP good for? Cropping. Period.
when you hit certain number of MP, it has no effect if you still raise them up. It is like a gas in a car..car needs some gas to run, if you give it more gas it will be heavier and consequently less efficient and slower but it will still run as if it would have "just enough" gas. But when you have a faster/sports car it will require more gas - like the "big" cameras with bigger sensor size can have more MP.
Have a nice day
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Although I've already read up plenty on the camera in the HTC One, I appreciate your well thought out reply! I'm just glad to hear that the One is producing better photos then the One X (which I thought were fantastic).
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I had a possibility to compare HTC One and HTC One X side by side. I couldnt believe my eyes - 8MP camera of HTC One X couldnt even match up, HTC One photo is soo crisp and cristal clear and ..ohh, ahh. ISO rating goes up to 1600 but when comparing at ISO 100, photo is absolutely few times brighter than HOX.
Now the screens. I really like my HOXs screen. But than I compared it at full brightness with HTC One.
this happened:
https://twitter.com/miHah1/status/306137264126316544
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Sorry but your power saving was "Enabled", please test again without power saving.
Pls htc give htc one more color saturation than the droid dna...
Out of curiosity - are you able to see more detail / sharpness in the 1080 screen rather than the 720 one (ignoring brightness and colour levels)?
Ok but who is interested in 16:9 photo shooting...4:3 is still the most common!!! so when you want 4:3 from HTC One you will get only about 3Mpx photos and thats awful...
Mihah: please could you still give both phones to minimum brighness and show us the black level quality on new SLCD3 screen?
I think this whole ultrapixel thing is to reset the marketing of cameras in smartphones,instead of evolving to 13,16,24 mp they just go back to 4mp,next year 5 or 8mp (which will stay for another 3 years),so they are just buying time.
The results of ultrapixel are nice but not much better than a ''classic'' 8mp smartphone,the low light pics are brighter but still very noisy.
If the SGS4 will get a 13mp with the same low light results,it will be a huge slap for HTC
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Please read up - my power saving is for CPU only and does not effect brightness or anything
Which phone had more colour saturation???
Thanks
vegetaleb said:
If the SGS4 will get a 13mp with the same low light results,it will be a huge slap for HTC
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That's impossible.
It's not physically impossible, clearly; but it's commercially and financially impossible.
The reason the One's low-light performance is good is mostly *because* the megapixel count is lower. Most smartphones have a camera sensor the same size - about a third of an inch across. If you cram three times as many pixels into that, each pixel has only a third of the area, and therefore (other things being equal) receives only a third as much light. To get the same low-light performance as the One, you therefore need a sensor three times as big (and an upgraded lens as well).
That can be done - the Nokia Pureview 808 has a sensor like that - but the problem is that it's expensive. To add a sensor like that would require Samsung either to massively increase the selling price of the phone, or to severely cut back on the phone's other features to keep the price down; and either one would be commercial suicide.
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Pretty obvious the screens are on different brightness levels and the OP is drunk.
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Sure the camera doesn't have much of a lens, and the zoom is really interpolated; but I really have my doubts that the camera is actually a 3.0MP.
Have there been any in depth tests to prove the camera's resolution???
How big a file should it be with the 3.0M super fine photos?
I take photos at the highest resolution and there is still pixel 'blocking'. I know HTC is new to this, but it is a let down. My old Sony 2.0MP takes better photos.
Clearly u have mistaken abt the relationship between MP and picture quality.
Higher MP does not necessarily mean better images taken.
If u compare a logitech quickcam IM's photo to that of the microsoft 2MP one. u will realise that althought the IM only supports VGA but
picture quality is much better......
The 4 most important factors in photography: Skill, Lens quality, lens quality, lens quality.
And you did realize that when you use the 3 MP mode, there is no zoom available?
A typical 3 MP "Super fine" image will be around 900-1400 KB depending on colors and detail of the object/situation you photograph. A "Fine" photo will land around 450-750 KB.
There is no noticeable difference between "Fine" and "Super fine" modes except in close up, high contrast photos.
I have attached 2 photos for your comparison. Yes, the camera is of poor quality as seen by these 2 images.
http://bayimg.com/DAEKGaABO
http://bayimg.com/DaEkHAABO
Oh, and to double check the resolution, just take a picture, save it to your PC and open it up with any image editing program and see for yourself.
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Sure the camera doesn't have much of a lens, and the zoom is really interpolated; but I really have my doubts that the camera is actually a 3.0MP.
Have there been any in depth tests to prove the camera's resolution???
How big a file should it be with the 3.0M super fine photos?
I take photos at the highest resolution and there is still pixel 'blocking'. I know HTC is new to this, but it is a let down. My old Sony 2.0MP takes better photos.
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Did you really expect super great pictures on the data centric device? Sure SE Phones do a better job of this, but what else can they do?
If you want a high quality camera or anything else techy, always buy a dedicated device for the job. Simple.
Personally speaking I find the camera quality more than acceptable for a PPC/Phone, as a matter of fact I would go as far to say that it is the best in class out of all PPC Phones. Just MHO though.
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Personally speaking I find the camera quality more than acceptable for a PPC/Phone, as a matter of fact I would go as far to say that it is the best in class out of all PPC Phones.
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I've got the same impression about the cam,
at least compared to my old HTC Magician
Camera
The quality of the camera is probably the only reason why I have not let the X7501 fully replace my N95 as a phone!
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The quality of the camera is probably the only reason why I have not let the X7501 fully replace my N95 as a phone!
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lmao, scnr
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lmao, scnr
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I've got an N95 and its camera isn't much better in my opinion, though it copes with moving subjects slightly better and video is VASTLY superior. I prefer B&W shots on the Ameo though. The flash on the Ameo is much brighter too - I still don't understand why HTC don't provide an automated flash function though - very annoying!
Sorry if I gave the impression that I was expecting a first rate camera with the 7501.
I purchased this for the following reasons, ranking in importance:
PDA
Phone
GPS
Media Player
Camera
With that said, there is another component to a good photo beside: Skill, Lens quality.
That is the software that puts all the image together.
My old Sony 2.0MP had a Carl Zeiss lens and the end product was still crap compared to the Canon's of the day. The internal software was the let down. So too the HTC.
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Sure the camera doesn't have much of a lens, and the zoom is really interpolated; but I really have my doubts that the camera is actually a 3.0MP.
Have there been any in depth tests to prove the camera's resolution???
How big a file should it be with the 3.0M super fine photos?
I take photos at the highest resolution and there is still pixel 'blocking'. I know HTC is new to this, but it is a let down. My old Sony 2.0MP takes better photos.
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Calavaro said:
The 4 most important factors in photography: Skill, Lens quality, lens quality, lens quality.
And you did realize that when you use the 3 MP mode, there is no zoom available?
A typical 3 MP "Super fine" image will be around 900-1400 KB depending on colors and detail of the object/situation you photograph. A "Fine" photo will land around 450-750 KB.
There is no noticeable difference between "Fine" and "Super fine" modes except in close up, high contrast photos.
I have attached 2 photos for your comparison. Yes, the camera is of poor quality as seen by these 2 images.
http://bayimg.com/DAEKGaABO
http://bayimg.com/DaEkHAABO
Oh, and to double check the resolution, just take a picture, save it to your PC and open it up with any image editing program and see for yourself.
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Dude, when was the last time you really cleaned?
another big factor of picture quality is the sensor size...
most people down know this but the bigger teh sensor the better the picture quality...
that is why a dslr with a big sensor though it may have a 3 MP pixel size will alwasy be better than a point and shoot thats 8 MP
this gets into photography .. but basicly craming more pixels into a same sized sensor will seldom yield better results ... just maybe allow you to blow up the picture a bit more thats it...
having said that i think the camera on the athena is excellent compared to other phones of the nature
I disagree with the fact that len quality is the most important factor.... Len is very important but tt is when you r using something with a gd sensor.... the image processor and sensor.... b it cmos or ccd will
b the one that makes the most difference when it comes to image quality.......
Calavaro said:
The 4 most important factors in photography: Skill, Lens quality, lens quality, lens quality.
And you did realize that when you use the 3 MP mode, there is no zoom available?
A typical 3 MP "Super fine" image will be around 900-1400 KB depending on colors and detail of the object/situation you photograph. A "Fine" photo will land around 450-750 KB.
There is no noticeable difference between "Fine" and "Super fine" modes except in close up, high contrast photos.
I have attached 2 photos for your comparison. Yes, the camera is of poor quality as seen by these 2 images.
http://bayimg.com/DAEKGaABO
http://bayimg.com/DaEkHAABO
Oh, and to double check the resolution, just take a picture, save it to your PC and open it up with any image editing program and see for yourself.
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I disagree with the fact that len quality is the most important factor.... Len is very important but tt is when you r using something with a gd sensor.... the image processor and sensor.... b it cmos or ccd will
b the one that makes the most difference when it comes to image quality.......
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sensor is imp ... but like i said its sensor size...
and being how most cell phones are small... you cant fit a big sensor in it... so image quality willbe sub par always...
you made me laugh out loud with that comment....you're right!!
for gods sake calavaro if you dont want to dust, just blow that dust away.......sneeze or something!!
of course you wanted it there for effect!?!?
in keeping w/ the thread though, i have a trion w/ a 2 mp and it is the best i've had in all my pda/phones...how does the advantage compare to that camera? anyone??
dan
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you made me laugh out loud with that comment....you're right!!
for gods sake calavaro if you dont want to dust, just blow that dust away.......sneeze or something!!
of course you wanted it there for effect!?!?
in keeping w/ the thread though, i have a trion w/ a 2 mp and it is the best i've had in all my pda/phones...how does the advantage compare to that camera? anyone??
dan
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Can't remember if the Trion is the same as the Hermes?! If it is, I had a Hermes and loved the camera...for a PPC, but I rate the Athena camera slightly ahead in every way.
i do find the athena camera superior to every other camera phone i have seen...
i especially like the focus... it definately makes the picture quite al ot sharper
any other camera with a fixed focal length produces far inferior results...
the reason is because it is fixed at infinity ... so it doesnt have to focus necessarily ...
basicly becaused of a fixed focal length at infinity you get a much softer picture...
and it is a common known fact among photographers the infinity focal length produces sub par results ...
for example they dont use the infinity focal length to take landscape pictures... it really depends per lens but they use a dif formula to calculate the best length...
the long and the short a variable focal lens will top a fixed focal length always...
in short if you cant focus ur lens like most pda phones athenas is better...
Haha. I do dust. I live in a 3rd world country with massive traffic in the center of a big-ass city. I even have maids helping out. That's the best that can be done on a day to day basis. So how about, you know, focus on the issue at hand?
No matter how you look at it, a camera on a phone will never be as good as even the simplest point-and-shoot camera. Yes, quality has improved, but it's still way behind.
So what's up with those red lines at the top left corner? about half the pictures I take has this "effect". Seems to happen mostly in high light conditions.
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I've got an N95 and its camera isn't much better in my opinion, though it copes with moving subjects slightly better and video is VASTLY superior. I prefer B&W shots on the Ameo though. The flash on the Ameo is much brighter too - I still don't understand why HTC don't provide an automated flash function though - very annoying!
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The N95 indeed has a poor quality STILL capture, however the VIDEO capability is amazing.
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Haha. I do dust. I live in a 3rd world country with massive traffic in the center of a big-ass city. I even have maids helping out. That's the best that can be done on a day to day basis. So how about, you know, focus on the issue at hand?
No matter how you look at it, a camera on a phone will never be as good as even the simplest point-and-shoot camera. Yes, quality has improved, but it's still way behind.
So what's up with those red lines at the top left corner? about half the pictures I take has this "effect". Seems to happen mostly in high light conditions.
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This is becaues of teh sensor size i mentioned before ..
its just not possible unless you want to carry a huge phone... (thickness)
and though the athena is big its really not that thick...
i really don't get it. most of the comments posted praise the Athena camera. Personally i think the camera is pretty good and sharp and the fact it can produce a 3mp photo is excellent.. BUT.. after using it for 2 months.. it is only great for outdoor and scenery shots (or if your subject does not move too much). in a NORMAL (and i say normal as in if you are in doors and the lighting condition is considered very good) indoor situation, if your subject just moves a little.. the whole picture becomes blur.. try this.. take a shot outdoor while u shake ur camera.. (result.. decent picture)... go indoor and move your camera.. (result.. sucks)..
i for one bought the phone to also take pictures of my kid especially when we go out shopping.. but the camera feature simply cannot make it..
question: when indoors.. the camera is like perpetually in night mode (i mean everything is like in slow motion.. jerky..) weird?!?!? even if i am using my old xda ii, it does not do this.. why oh why?
i do understand what most of u guys are saying about a weak sensor.. but i for one is a disappointed customer.. a phone with such a powerful cpu yet the picture and video quality is terrible.. sigh...
Anybody else notice this, the 8MP camera is noise as hell and in some cases (for me) distort the pic or shoots it blurry. Why is that? My 5MP on my HD2 is not noise at all. Is the Incredible camera noise as well (since im sure they are the same).
More megapixels doesn't equal higher image quality, I think this is what you're forgetting. It's just from HTC, they do process the hell out of the images taken from the camera and it's not enhanced by Kodak or Carl Zeiss. If it did have efforts from them I would be very disappointed. I really want to see how good the 12 megapixel camera on the Nokia N8 looks. Maybe we can have a benchmark.... it's still a phone afterall.
Post a pic with the noise you are talking about. What ISO setting are you using? AUTO?
Also what kind of lighting are you under?
This is a phone camera after all. The MP is just marketing.
how to import picture from EVO into the PC the pics are saved into the Phone not into SD
advice please
why don't you just email it to yourself?
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why don't you just email it to yourself?
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I cannot email 200 Pics to myself
Raadius said:
Anybody else notice this, the 8MP camera is noise as hell and in some cases (for me) distort the pic or shoots it blurry. Why is that?
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It depends on your ISO settings. Your previous phone might not have had the issue because the EVO can go all the way up to 1250 ISO, while most other phones cannot go above 800. Its good to have options.
I would suggest to turn off auto ISO. If its dark, change your ISO to a high setting. If your in a lot of light, lower your ISO.
Even though 800-1250 ISO might be noisy, it can take sharper low light photos.
I doubt that the image sensor for this phone is not physically bigger than the 5mp one in the Hero. To fit 8 million pixels into the same physical space that 5 million pixels inhabit on the hero means that each pixel has to be smaller. Smaller things have less surface area and thus are less sensitive to light. To counteract this loss of light sensitivity they have to amplify the light that they receive and this causes more grain. Again, this is all assuming that the sensors are physically the same size. Most compact cameras have used the same size chip physically for years but adding pixels year after year. Eventually you get diminishing returns in quality because of the extra grain. This is why compact cameras don't have 30 mega pixels now, they reached the max where things just get worse if they go higher.
Set iso to 100
Amazing
Hey everyone!
So i've used the Desire HD's camera for a bit, and I find it's got potential. I used to have a HD2...and remember there was a registry edit fix and also settings in the camera app that were published here on XDA to improve picture quality...well i've found out that pictures are a lot clearer and sharper when these settings are applied on the Desire HD:
Go into the Camera app...
Press the menu button on your desire hd...
Turn OFF auto-focus
in the Image adjustments sub-menu, turn sharpness all the way to 2...
Take pictures, and as a good example of comparison take a before and after picture.
In the after pic, tap on what you want in focus. The overall quality of the picture will be a lot clearer! There is also less noise and the object will be in focus, and pepper and grain effect is largely eliminated! Try it out and report back
Elemental_Fire
Update 1 (00:09-10/12/2010):
Thanks to the knowledge and sharing of fellow XDA members, I have determined that what seems to impact/affect images the most is the sharpness settings. Contrary to my settings, you can also go into Image adjustments in the camera app and turn off the sharpness setting fully. This is done by turning the sharpness circle dial all the way to -2. It seems that when set on default, the sharpness algorithm is ineffective at determining the level of sharpness that should be used. As a result, images are reproduced with unwanted image effects such as distinct grainyness, noise and also seemingly out-of-focus/blury pictures! So you can use either -2 for smooth pictures that are good quality, or +2 for sharper pictures that are good quality! At the end of the day, it depends on what you as the photographer prefer Haha i'm making this sound like the Desire HD is a professional camera...it's certainly more than suitable for quick snaps that won't comprise on good memorable photos in 8MP
Update 2 (00:51- 10/12/2010)
Uploaded sample pictures!
will give this a try in the morning!
Is that +2 I take it not -2? I'll check this out in morning
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Yep, plus 2
yup the pictures are much better!!
i just hated all tht noise and grainyness!
Thanks a lot!!!
I didnt really notice the difference, I think im just horrid at taking photos haha
they do look slightly better i think!
I haven't tried this yet myself but its nice that the hd remembers these settings after a power cycle - I expected all settings to revert to default.
That does not help any here.
I think the compression is just screwed up very badly, or we don't have anything like a 8MP sensor in our phones.
You can see that very easily if you photograph or film some intricate pattern like in snow, frost, test patterns (printed on paper) or such. It just smears and blurs the hell out of these photographs and no settings in the user interface will help against that.
Now, a sensor actually resolving 8 Megapixels, on the other hand, should be capable of resolving to about four 1920x1080 computer screens worth of distinct pixels. Unfortunately when I view the photographs on the screen, in actuality I still those see smears and other artifacts even when I zoom the image to about ~25% of the screen's. So... ~0.5 MP or less resolution in reality? Beh, fail.
Meh, it is an 8mp sensor...I just assume HTC don't implement and make use of the best available lens, sensor size and compression rate....but the camera isn't bad at all..i'll upload some pictures i've taken recently, they're quite defined! Certainly more clearer, sharper and yet containing less noise than my old HD2 gosh colours on that were washed out
sharpness plus 2 will increase the digital treatment which seems to remove more noise and add more sharpness, maybe a little better than the default semi sharpness which a mess
however the camera is indeed 8MP it is ridiculous to state otherwise!! turn off sharpness all the way to -2 and all this digital artifacts will be gone as well as fake sharpness, you will be able to get full 8MP camera quality without HTC mending with them, you can improve photos further by using the auto fix or high contrast from within the gallery
of course noise will be introduced depending on the available light and of course with sharpness -2 it will be a little soft since it receiving zero digital treatment, take it to any photo editing application and you can boost the sharpness properly
really i don't get all the random posts camera quality, i'm getting amazing results even managed to amaze my iphone 4 colleagues, the only part where HTC really failed is the default noise reduction/sharpness algorithm (Sharpness 0) its a real mess thankfully it can be turned off
i should make a detailed thread about the camera and be done with it
after using it a few times, im still sticking to my D700
I`m quite happy with the point and click results but for serious pics i use my ancient Canon EOS 500.
ofcourse it will never beat a DSLR! only the satio and the nokia n8 come close but those sucks in their own ways
its not a perfect camera, but damn better than everyone make it sound, and pretty amazing for a phone, everyone complaining including some reviewers didn't even bother to experiment with the basic settings
the best words i found for this camera are in the Engadget review particluary this line ( Noise-masking blur is distributed very well, in our opinion, works especially well if can content yourself with downsizing the images from the max 8 megapixel size), gsmarena kept complaining about the sharpness and never mentioned it can be turned off
oh and it wipes the floor with the iphone 4 camera
the only two issues in this phone are the lack of ips in the screen and the size for those who can't handle it and no the battery is fine
hamdir said:
ofcourse it will never beat a DSLR! only the satio and the nokia n8 come close but those sucks in their own ways
its not a perfect camera, but damn better than everyone make it sound, and pretty amazing for a phone, everyone complaining including some reviewers didn't even bother to experiment with the basic settings
the best words i found for this camera are in the Engadget review particluary this line ( Noise-masking blur is distributed very well, in our opinion, works especially well if can content yourself with downsizing the images from the max 8 megapixel size), gsmarena kept complaining about the sharpness and never mentioned it can be turned off
oh and it wipes the floor with the iphone 4 camera
the only two issues in this phone are the lack of ips in the screen and the size for those who can't handle it and no the battery is fine
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agreed 100% with your post. Although the lack of ips is no issue imo.
thank you, ips is only an issue when use the phone flat on your desk or sharing with others, its a slight issue when old desire slcd/amoled, iphone 3Gs and ipads have much better view angles
but yea its no biggie, its my first HTC device where i found no need to flash custom stuff
Makes very little difference for me. I have to wonder about anyone that says this is a great camera - what are you comparing it against and have you ever used a Nokia for instance with Carl Zeiss optics?
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Makes very little difference for me. I have to wonder about anyone that says this is a great camera - what are you comparing it against and have you ever used a Nokia for instance with Carl Zeiss optics?
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yes nokia n900 and the DHD is better
i will post my results soon in full resolution
Here is a pic i took of my cat earlier today. Open in new tab to see the full resolution.
hamdir said:
i should make a detailed thread about the camera and be done with it
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Please do!
I for one am interested to finetune my camera app!
Surprisingly, I haven't seen any camera comparisons between the One and One X.
Seeing how many of us are upgrading FROM a One X, I'd love to see some comparison shots. To me, the camera is a huge deciding factor.
Anyone have a a link to such a comparison?
huh? there are already so many. i have seen many comparison in pocketnow, , technobuffalo, engadget, the verge, etc. the one seem to perform well against other android devices, even with iphone BUT, honestly, all the results shows that it still loses to the lumia 920.
I just rechecked those reviews and didn't see a single photo comparison between the One and One X.
use your eyes dude. technobuffalo has a whole article for it(compared with the latest phones), pocketnow even has it on its main page(against droid dna), scroll down for the against lumia 920 one.
TechnoBuffalo shows to me that Lumia 920 lost. Daytime detail is functionally identical, while low light noise is noticeably worse than the One.
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use your eyes dude. technobuffalo has a whole article for it(compared with the latest phones), pocketnow even has it on its main page(against droid dna), scroll down for the against lumia 920 one.
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I can clearly see that there are some comparition betw mobilephones, but i can't find HTC One X in the list. Where do You see it?
There are no comparisons between the two yet, I'm sure someone here will do one as soon as they get their hands on the phone though.
You have to consider that review sites aren't likely to compare an old generation phone to a new one from the same company. They're interested in comparing the phones that are current, that are considered the best shooters and that people are most likely to buy. I can't see many people, if any buying a One X over the One once the One is out.....Hence review site's wont see the need to compare the two.
very good question but no one compared them for some reason, there is an evident full size quality loss coming from the One X but otherwise the camera improves on everything else
and i just posted this
hamdir said:
can't wait to try this camera with reduced sharpness
i freaking love it
to be honest i feel they now completed what they started with the One X camera, the camera is no complete (the bold green lines are the new improved abilities, bold red are compromised features)
- Super Fast shutter, much reduced motion blur
- Super fast focus
- Best HDR in class
- Smart Metering Flash light
- Stunning daylight image enhancements
- Stunning daylight detail from One X reduced on the new ultrapixel camera
- Optical OIS reducing motion blur further
- Excellent noiseless low light
- Excellent macro focus
These leaves only tweaknesses, the color balance is currently too much on the warm side and over exposing bright areas (due to the light loving sensor) which can all be tweaked in software
HTC have rewritten the One X camera app from scratch for the JB update which dramatically enhanced the view finder speed, they also improved many of the focus, white balance and low light issues
i have no doubt they will do the same for the new camera
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check my collective post here ultrapixel camera samples
I'm posting up a new camera review/comparison from ZDNet in the camera thread.
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I'm posting up a new camera review/comparison from ZDNet in the camera thread.
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Thx. Were do I find the "camera thread"?
I've come from the One X which I thought had an outstanding camera, better than anything else on the market. I have two mates with SG3's and they were seriously impressed.
Now I have the one I'm equally impressed. The photos look amazing. I'm not blowing them up to examine pixel quality, as I really dont care but on the phone, facebook, printed out, the quality is great.
Indoor and low light blows my socks off. It's seriously impressive what they've done here. You still get detailed shots without the glare of a flash. Seriously impressive
Hey guys,
Today I took both, my one year old HTC One X and my new HTC One for a walk through town and I wanted to show you my photos.
The first picture is always from the One, the second one is from the One with the Auto Enhance feature and the third one is from the One X.
Taking a photo of the TV makes the picture flickering. I am not sure what's the reason for this, as it doesn't happen with the One X's camera. It also doesnt happen with my computer screen, just with the plasma TV.
The following pictures are taken pretty much in the same light conditions, however I wanted to show them all to you
In low light conditions the One seems to be ahead of the One X, at least if it's not completely dark ...
The following two pictures are taken at night time and to be honest I am very disappointed in the One:
I think even with my DSLR it would be hard to get a good photo in this light, but in my opinion the One X's photo is better than the One's photo.
All settings are standard with both phones. Maybe there are some settings to improve the camera, but it won't make a huge difference.
Looking forward to your feedback!
Thanks! finally versus the One X
yes as expected the One X had a great camera (2x the detail) its only in low light that the One beats it
as for the settings its discussed greatly in the photo thread
The One images can be washed out due to the high brightness levels in them and they seem to improve greatly once auto enhanced
check the auto enhance post here
as well as tweaking the camera settings ofcourse (exposure, contrast, sharpness etc)
I also suggest reducing the sharpness to -1, as its too aggressive by default
by the way when zoomed out, i'm finding your HTC One pictures better
Great comparison! Thanks!
In your opinion, which of the phones took "truer to life" pictures? We can tell that the colors between the One and the One X are different - it seems like the One X is adding a blue-ish hue to everything - but without seeing the original scene, it's hard for anyone but you to say which are better.
Also, it would be cool if, as the poster above me said, you could run HTC's enhance function on the One pictures and add those to the comparison
I find the htc one camera better. More details and less noise. Look at the walls, trees, and streets.
HTC One X has better color production. This might be fixed soon with the One. I remmember One X had a camera fix also.
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I find the htc one camera better. More details and less noise. Look at the walls, trees, and streets.
HTC One X has better color production. This might be fixed soon with the One. I remmember One X had a camera fix also.
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Yeah, I agree about the detail to noise ratio. I prefer that over more megapixels.
Stupid phone just needs to get a US release date...
The pictures of the HTC One are "truer to life", but I don't really like the night photos of the One, as they are more noisy than the One X photos, aren't they?
As requested, I have added pictures of the auto enhance feature to the first post
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The pictures of the HTC One are "truer to life", but I don't really like the night photos of the One, as they are more noisy than the One X photos, aren't they?
As requested, I have added pictures of the auto enhance feature to the first post
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Awesome, thanks! "Auto enhance" seems to add to some pictures, and detract from others.
I think the One is less noisy than the One X during night shots taken with auto enhance, at least...but I'm not really an expert
The One X has an auto enhance feature as well, didn't try that though, and I think adding these pictures would make this thread a bit too confusing.
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The One X has an auto enhance feature as well, didn't try that though, and I think adding these pictures would make this thread a bit too confusing.
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I was under the impression that the One X was already auto-enhancing pictures by default, but maybe I'm mistaken. I'm running CM10 on my One X at the moment so I can't check.
Gosh terrible quality from one.
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I was under the impression that the One X was already auto-enhancing pictures by default, but maybe I'm mistaken. I'm running CM10 on my One X at the moment so I can't check.
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No auto enhance is in gallery as well on the one x, but some customs mods added it to the camera
I didn't even like the camera on the One X when I owned it. This is making it even easier. The HTC One is even more like an oil painiting than the One X. None of the pictures look natural looking. The HTC One has an even more processed look than the One X, with higher contrast and sharpening and noise reduction. What is an oil painting? Look at the examples here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_painting
Looks like an HTC image doesn't it? I want natural and realistic pictures, not instagram oil painting filter. HTC can't seem to figure that out, nor even allow a RAW image for those who hate the oil painting look. Even third party cameras only get piped the imagechip processed image.
The HTc One camera is even worse than the One X camera and even more unnatural looking. The only improvement is in pitch black lighting, which look like crap regardless and people seldom take pictures in pitch black. The overcast and indoor shots which the HTC One is suppose to be better at are actually worse than the One X. So it is all around even worse than last year's camera.
shame on new child of High Tech Computers!!!
Thank you. Finally the review I was waiting for.
I really love my one x camera and I wasn't sure about the one's performance outdoors with good light, after reading almost every review of the one's camera.
The main concern was the new 4 mp (ultrapixels) sensor that should capture less detail than 8 mp on the one x.
After reading this review I am convinced that the larger pixels (ultrapixels) compensate the move from 8mp on the one x/DNA to 4 ultrapixels on the htc one and the htc one captures the same details as the htc one x. For example when zooming at the 7th row pictures the lincese plates of the 4 first cars, both on the htc one and one x are readable.I don't think any other 4mp sensor would capture this detail.
My conclusion for this test:
Outdoors good light: Tie
Outdoors low light: htc one wins, although the htc one x's picture on the last row was better.
Indoors low light: htc one wins.
Video (not on this test): The video on the htc one is two steps forward from the htc one x and the best on every smartphone. period. The OIS stabilizes the video at low light and the dual membrane microphones make every concert a joy to the ears, not like the crappy microphones on the one x or every other smartphone.
Example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6UIf3qqF4s
Now that I am convinced that the htc one is better than my one x in every aspect I am really waiting to have it in my hands.
The 4 MP camera was my main concern before buying the phone and I didn't like the idea of taking a step back compared to the 8 MP camera of my One X (and even 5 MP on the HTC Desire I've had before that).
After testing the ultra pixel camera for a few days now, I have to admit, that I am quite impressed with the 4 MP ultra pixel cam and I won't miss the One X's camera at all.
If I want to take some serious pictures, I will always use my DSLR, however for snapshots and the everyday use for Facebook and Instagram, the One will be perfect and better than any phone I have ever had.
Also at least one of your picture has the right side blur, guess OIS sometimes get it wrong...
You can definitely tell the daytime pics look better on the One, least the colors are more natural to me.
But, for whatever reason all the pics look bad to me. They are all blurry for some reason. Anyone else having that issue or is it just me, lol!
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I too have both one x and one, the one takes much much better photos overall, after trying it in every light and with the sun directly shining on the lense etc the one camera is impressive, and I do not miss my one x camera at all
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hamdir said:
Also at least one of your picture has the right side blur, guess OIS sometimes get it wrong...
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That's an issue with OIS not resetting. Not sure if this is a hardware or software issue.
JesseMT4G said:
You can definitely tell the daytime pics look better on the One, least the colors are more natural to me.
But, for whatever reason all the pics look bad to me. They are all blurry for some reason. Anyone else having that issue or is it just me, lol!
Sent from a galaxy far away!
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if u have it blurry all the time it might be a defect