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Hello guys...
I have DHD rooted so I was searching some files with root explorer and I found this:
In sys/android_camera there is a file with name sensor.
So I opened this file with Root Explorer (View as text) and inside I saw the model of camera sensor that DHD uses and it's the OmniVision ov8810 8M...
After a little search in the web I found the official description of this sensor and you can find it here http://www.ovt.com/products/sensor.php?id=61#specifications.
From the Product Specifications you can see that the sensor can take video at 1080p.
So I assumed that we have the hardware but we miss the software...
Am I right???
Interesting. It can even take 720p in 60FPS, which would be veeery nice.
Ohh, interesting...
This does not surprise me. HTC is well-known for hampering their cameras. Maybe in an OTA later on or some crafty XDAer will check this out. I suggest PM'ing the ones who got 720p on the various other phones so they can check this out.
By the way, if my thoughts are correct and my eyes don't fool me, it says "10 @ Full"... even though I'm thinking this is full 8mp @ 10fps recording, this just does not seem real. No way in hell.
1080p? Honestly? I mean, it barely manages to capture [email protected]*, let alone [email protected], not to mention 1080p. I know DHD is one of the most powerful phone today, but I seriously doubt it has enough grunt to record at anything over 720p. Of course, I would be very glad if I could be proven wrong, but I'm affraid it won't happen .
Most of all, I would like to see it record video in [email protected] properly, especially in low(ish) light conditions.
On the brighter side, the image sensor does seem to be able to record in [email protected], [email protected] or indeed 10fps in full res, but I imagine it would require pretty fast memory card.
*Or it could be just stock SD card write speed limitation, but I doubt it.
gsmarena.com has been bashing the DHD's camera, in their latest review of the SE arc they even say that DHD is worthy of a true 8 megapixel camera comparison
i'm not on the latest rom so i can't tell if they've really made any improvements on the camera quality and i haven't been taking enough pictures to judge but i think there's no point in having 1080*60fps if the quality of the videos is ****
jeRrRKKKK said:
in their latest review of the SE arc they even say that DHD is worthy of a true 8 megapixel camera comparison
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They said DHD is not worthy of a true 8 megapixel camera comparison. Corrected that for you.
bobale said:
They said DHD is not worthy of a true 8 megapixel camera comparison. Corrected that for you.
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DHD can't match the quality of my 7mp camera. Lenses make all the difference, megapixels alone are pretty useless.
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I use a custom ROM that is based in 1.72 and I have a class10 MicroSD and the video on 720p is very good with no lags...
So the thing I mentioned in first post is that the hardware seems to be capable to shoot in 30 @ 1080p.
No if the phone with all other parts is capable is another thing that some developers could answer...
sengork said:
DHD can't match the quality of my 7mp camera. Lenses make all the difference, megapixels alone are pretty useless.
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Bang on!
But as a phone I fell DHDs camera is good enough, well for me anyway.
I would certainly like to see how the phone would handle 1080p recording lol, just for fun.
The CPU does not support video encoding above 720p 30fps.
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The CPU does not support video encoding above 720p 30fps.
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Only the dual cores that comeing up to future phones support encoding above 720p??
Frankly, DHD can't match my Nokia N95 from 2007, let alone my Sony 4mpix camera from 2006.
my one is different
samsung S5K3H1GX 8M
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Really???
That's strange... HTC put different hardware in the same device???
That's not fare cause I assume that Samsung's sensor might be better than mine...
Mine has a samsung S5K3H1GX 8M
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kalagas said:
Really???
That's strange... HTC put different hardware in the same device???
That's not fare cause I assume that Samsung's sensor might be better than mine...
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Mine also has a samsung S5K3H1GX 8M, and I can assure you it can't be better than yours
I like taking photos, but I never expected a phone to do too much.
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kalagas said:
Really???
That's strange... HTC put different hardware in the same device???
That's not fare cause I assume that Samsung's sensor might be better than mine...
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I have no qualms about the camera, for me it is 3 times better than my old Touch HD
how to check ? mind have guides please ?
I have the white GT-I9100M with LP6.
1. First of all the camera seems to be the old camera. The shutter speed hasn't improved, and the panorama feature hardly compares to how it works on the Nexus.
2. The launcher and widgets don't compare to the Nexus ones.
3. Where the hell is NFC??
Overall this feels more like a ICS-themed rom rather than a real ICS comparable to the Galaxy Nexus.
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1. First of all the camera seems to be the old camera. The shutter speed hasn't improved, and the panorama feature hardly compares to how it works on the Nexus.
2. The launcher and widgets don't compare to the Nexus ones.
3. Where the hell is NFC??
Overall this feels more like a ICS-themed rom rather than a real ICS comparable to the Galaxy Nexus.
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You're going to be waiting for a LONG time for a firmware update to bring NFC to come to this phone.
1. It's still beta.
2. It's still beta.
3. NFC will enable when it's your birthday. So for the sake of everyone who has a GSII, when's your birthday?
There is also weird differences between the S2 and the GN. For example, the GN only has a 1.3mp front camera and supports 720p videochat. While the S2 has a 2mp front camera and doesn't support 720p videochat.
The LP6 beta is buggy and slow and drains battery. If it is this bad right now, we'll probably be waiting for months for ICS to be released!
Yay, another ICS thread. We haven't got enough of these in this forum.
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There is also weird differences between the S2 and the GN. For example, the GN only has a 1.3mp front camera and supports 720p videochat. While the S2 has a 2mp front camera and doesn't support 720p videochat.
The LP6 beta is buggy and slow and drains battery. If it is this bad right now, we'll probably be waiting for months for ICS to be released!
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Does anyone know if 720p videochat support is something that can be activated in the future with a firmware upgrade, or is it something that is hardware restricted?
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Does anyone know if 720p videochat support is something that can be activated in the future with a firmware upgrade, or is it something that is hardware restricted?
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1) The GN isn't beta. LP6 is.
2) The camera firmware doesn't change with LP6. So it's obvious it hasn't changed.
3) AOSP vs Samsung ROM is never representative
4) Final samsung release is slated for end of march anyway, so yeah... we'll be waiting months for final features.
5) ????
6) Profit!
If you like the GN so much, buy it and give me your sgs2.
Oh and NFC isn't a software upgrade. It's a non existant hardware inside our phones.
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karendar said:
1) The GN isn't beta. LP6 is.
2) The camera firmware doesn't change with LP6. So it's obvious it hasn't changed.
3) AOSP vs Samsung ROM is never representative
4) Final samsung release is slated for end of march anyway, so yeah... we'll be waiting months for final features.
5) ????
6) Profit!
If you like the GN so much, buy it and give me your sgs2.
Oh and NFC isn't a software upgrade. It's a non existant hardware inside our phones.
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Your numbers don't correspond with the questions. What does your #5 and #6 answer?
And you didn't respond to the 720p videochat support question you referenced in your response.
montrealguy said:
Your numbers don't correspond with the questions. What does your #5 and #6 answer?
And you didn't respond to the 720p videochat support question you referenced in your response.
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Your second question was answered by point #4. Read between the lines...
Your first question though, I had 5 and 6 to illustrate that humor is a nice passtime for someone watching the Canadiens losing 2 to 1. Also that there's obviously a few things missing in your research/reasoning to get the bigger picture on these two phones...
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NFC? Really? You must be kidding!
I want my next software update to add an extra 2 cores and 1GB of ram as well as another 3 battery's to my phone, pretty plz.
slightly srs answer:
Camera shutter speed = Hardware
NFC = hardware issue
Samsung builds will always be samsung themed, they are not going to totally change the look of the rom, so yes, it will always look like a samsung/touchwizz themed rom.
Also beta is beta!
Derp derp.
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Does anyone know if 720p videochat support is something that can be activated in the future with a firmware upgrade, or is it something that is hardware restricted?
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Can anyone answer this question? I'm guessing that if the S2 doesn't support 720p videochat now, then it is incapable of this. It is sad though- that a 1.3mp cam on the GN will support it while a 2mp cam on the S2 doesn't!
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Can anyone answer this question? I'm guessing that if the S2 doesn't support 720p videochat now, then it is incapable of this. It is sad though- that a 1.3mp cam on the GN will support it while a 2mp cam on the S2 doesn't!
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It WAS answered.
Ok let me clarify if it's still not clear: It's a feature that probably wasn't added yet. If a camera at 1.3 supports it, most likely a camera at 2mp will support it if the proper software goes with it. Most likely the hardware codec support wasn't added and that's needed. But anyway, why would you even want 720p video chat?? Sounds like too much bandwidth to me.
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Complain after the end of march.. they said a stable one will be released at the end of march..
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karendar said:
It WAS answered.
Ok let me clarify if it's still not clear: It's a feature that probably wasn't added yet. If a camera at 1.3 supports it, most likely a camera at 2mp will support it if the proper software goes with it. Most likely the hardware codec support wasn't added and that's needed. But anyway, why would you even want 720p video chat?? Sounds like too much bandwidth to me.
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There are many Logitech cams which are 2mp and 5mp, yet don't support 720p videochat or Skype HD. In such cases it is obviously a hardware restriction.
The Droid Razr is advertised as supporting 720p videochat, and so is the GN. However the Droid Razr is still on Gingerbread. If the S2 was capable or upgradeable for 720p videochat, wouldn't it have been advertised already?
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There are many Logitech cams which are 2mp and 5mp, yet don't support 720p videochat or Skype HD. In such cases it is obviously a hardware restriction.
The Droid Razr is advertised as supporting 720p videochat, and so is the GN. However the Droid Razr is still on Gingerbread. If the S2 was capable or upgradeable for 720p videochat, wouldn't it have been advertised already?
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That's what's marvelous about a dev community in open source... If samsung doesn't do it, someone could.
I've seen cams that had no 720p support suddenly get it by dev work. So no, hardware limitations is NOT always the case.
But seriously, if you love the nexus so much, sell your sgs2 and go buy it. Coming on a cell phone's forum to say it sucks compared to another phone is never well received.
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i missed the part where this was beginning to be a GN thread...i beg you bro read their answers...its all there!
I don't really know what android 4 feels like and what I can do is with whatever roms are available right now, I try to pick the 'best' one. Yep they are all betas pretty much but some are better than others. Got to be happy with what we've got mate.
There are some differences, but on things like camera/nfc there'll be hw differences too.
Some of samsungs apps are different, but that doesn't mean they're always less good. For example they're by default black, oled friendly themed. Contacts as links which I don't think AOSP has.
The LP6 rom can work well - fast, good battery life, pretty stable for a leaked version. You can run apps that need ICS. The new task manager, notification features are there. I actally like touchwiz (except for no alpha sort), but can install a different launcher (like nova) if I want to.
Sure there are some differences from stck android - and one could have a huge debate on the whole issue of manufacturer theming but samsung aren't imo doing a bad job at all here.
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5) ????
6) Profit
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This made me laugh epicly hard. Thank you for that.
Fwiw, its from southpark. The underpants gnomes episode
Step 1: steal underpants
Step2: ?
Step3: profit!
Anyways, back on topic. Megapixels don't have anything to do with camera quality. That is determined by lens quality. Megapixels refer to what SIZE image is produce I.e. HxW or something like 1920x1080. So if you want a higher quality picture you need a higher quality lens. Look into dslr and other cameras and you will see what I mean. Image color, clarity and focus is determined more by the overall quality of lens versus how many megapixels it has.
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I find the camera on the Nexus4 somewhat lacking.
GSMarena just reviewed it and came to the same conclusion.
gsmarena.com/google_nexus_4-review-860p9.php
By looking at their Compare Tool it seems that LG phones have consistently bad cameras.
1) Is the comparatively high noise in Nexus4 pictures most likely due to limitations in the camera hardware
or is it the result of bad software calibration that can be re-adjusted?
2) I'd like more control over the camera like manual ISO and shutter speed settings.
Is there a custom ROM or 3rd party app that can expose these to the user?
EDIT:
The camera module on the Nexus 4 is "Exmor R" IMX111PQ.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1964850&page=25
The LG Optimus 4X HD shares the same hardware camera module.
When comparing the 2 phones with the GSMarena's Photo Compare Tool it looks
like the LG Optimus 4X performs better noise-wise but has color balance problems (too much red).
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=2&idPhone1=5048&idPhone2=4563&idPhone3=4238
Although the Nexus 4's camera is not as good as that of the Samsung Galaxy S3
it seems as though it could be calibrated to perform a bit better than it does at the moment.
Boy talk about useless post of the century!!
Live with it or buy another phone
asasione said:
Boy talk about useless post of the century!!
Live with it or buy another phone
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Sounds like you have a lot to contribute, asasione. Don't let me slow you down with my useless query.
The camera is important to me. I bought the Nexus4 in a rush without much knowledge of the camera.
After some use I find it lacking so I would like to know if it could be improved.
If not then yes, I will start looking at more capable phones.
Should have done your homework first
Definitely should've done your homework first. Learn your lesson and don't impulse buy next time. With such superior build quality, some things have to suffer to retain the price tag it has. This isn't an $800 iphone after all
The funny thing about you guys making fun of him, is that you don't exactly know what you're talking about either.
Back when the Evo 3D got upgraded to ICS, the Virgin Mobile version of the Evo 3D got significant camera improvements, and the Evo 3D (Sprint and GSM [international]) were left hanging with a camera that was essentially the same as the one that they had back with Gingerbread.
Here's a link to it, if you'd like to see. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1717113&highlight=vm+camera
So to answer your question, yes. Software can be used to enhance the camera. If I were you I'd look in the direction of Sony's mods (Photo editor and related) and check that out. I know that there is a ROM that currently uses this.
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Sounds like you have a lot to contribute, asasione. Don't let me slow you down with my useless query.
The camera is important to me. I bought the Nexus4 in a rush without much knowledge of the camera.
After some use I find it lacking so I would like to know if it could be improved.
If not then yes, I will start looking at more capable phones.
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If the camera is important to you, you should've bought a REAL camera.
Camera module is excellent. on par with probably iphones and s3s, its just a matter of time till someone figures out what lg did wrong with the drivers
I should have known better? I should shut up and be happy with what I have?
Seriously guys, what's the point of these comments? That's a strange attitude.
Allow me to remind you that this is a developer forum where people discuss how to thinker
with gadgets to improve them.
akbisw said:
Camera module is excellent. on par with probably iphones and s3s,
its just a matter of time till someone figures out what did wrong with the drivers
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Thank you, akbisw and thebeastglasser!
This is my understanding as well - there are only a few camera modules out there (mostly Sony ones).
The phone firmware must initially calibrate the module. When taking a photo there are algorithms that work with
the metering system to assign color, aperture, shutter speed, sensitivity and other parameters for each shot.
After the picture is taken it's immediately compressed to JPG and a number of filters like smoothing are applied.
In a real camera there's a processor doing all these tasks but in a phone you already have a CPU and GPU.
The camera drivers have a great influence over the final picture. If we have the source code to the drivers
and people who are knowledgeable in digital photography it's not an impossible task to recalibrate the camera.
-Mindroid- said:
I should have known better? I should shut up and be happy with what I have?
Seriously guys, what's the point of these comments? That's a strange attitude.
Allow me to remind you that this is a developer forum where people discuss how to thinker
with gadgets to improve them.
Thank you, akbisw and thebeastglasser!
This is my understanding as well - there are only a few camera modules out there (mostly Sony ones).
The phone firmware must initially calibrate the module. When taking a photo there are algorithms that work with
the metering system to assign color, aperture, shutter speed, sensitivity and other parameters for each shot.
After the picture is taken it's immediately compressed to JPG and a number of filters like smoothing are applied.
In a real camera there's a processor doing all these tasks but in a phone you already have a CPU and GPU.
and people who are knowledgeable in digital photography it's not an impossible task to recalibrate the camera.
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I don't comment much but the replies in this thread are ridiculous. It's a simple question. I also bought this phone knowing that the camera wasn't its best feature, but I'm also curious if there is a way to improve the software/drivers to improve it. There have been several examples on XDA where this has happened. If you're going to be an Internet tough guy and only offer useless posts then don't post, you not only waste your time but the OPs too.
mreik said:
I don't comment much but the replies in this thread are ridiculous. It's a simple question.
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I should have known better? I should shut up and be happy with what I have?
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I have a suggestion. You can rephrase the question, to something like this:
"I found out that the Nexus 4 has IMX111PQ camera module, which should be on par with the IMX145 found in iPhone 4s. Yet the quality of the image is somewhat lacking [...]"
Citing reviews from some website just invites the trolls waiting around to waste your time.
Back to your question.
I don't think Nexus 4's camera is on par with iPhone 4s or GSG 3's camera. For starter, the pixel size is 20% (edit: 25%) smaller, thus more noises.
But, I do believe in the same thing as Mindroid, akbisw and thebeastglasser, that math can do magic and someone will figure out something to make it works better.
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I have a suggestion. You can rephrase the question, to something like this:
"I found out that the Nexus 4 has IMX111PQ camera module, which should be on par with the IMX145 found in iPhone 4s. Yet the quality of the image is somewhat lacking [...]"
Citing reviews from some website just invites the trolls waiting around to waste your time.
Back to your question.
I don't think Nexus 4's camera is on par with iPhone 4s or GSG 3's camera. For starter, the pixel size is 20% smaller, thus more noises.
But, I do believe in the same thing as Mindroid, akbisw and thebeastglasser, that math can do magic and someone will figure out something to make it works better.
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Thanks, KyraOfFire!
I spent a lot of time thinking how to phrase my question without inviting the trolls. :silly:
GSMarena did scientific benchmarks, their review states the facts, not an opinion.
Can you verify the camera module in the Nexus4 is IMX111PQ (link)? I will update the OP.
AnandTech claims the LG Optimus 4X HD has that camera module.
Using the GSMarena's Image Compare Tool I can see that the LG Optimus 4X has much better
noise performance than the Nexus 4. The colors on the LG 4X are a bit off though.
If both phones share the same camera hardware it seems that the Nexus4 noise issue could indeed
be caused by a bad software calibration.
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=5048&idPhone2=4563&idPhone3=4238
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Can you verify the camera module in the Nexus4 is IMX111PQ (link)? I will update the OP.
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Hi Mindroid, I am glad I could help.
Nexus 4 detailed technical breakdown can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1964850
It is claimed that the module number is from the kernel source code
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33645116&highlight=camera#post33645116
Edit: I looked at the photos.
Nexus 4 is clearly more noisy than Optimus 4X HD, but it is also somewhat sharper.
Assuming the information is correct and the two phones share the same camera chip, the software can definitely be tuned.
asasione said:
Boy talk about useless post of the century!!
Live with it or buy another phone
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yyz71 said:
Should have done your homework first
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spitefulcheerio said:
Definitely should've done your homework first. Learn your lesson and don't impulse buy next time. With such superior build quality, some things have to suffer to retain the price tag it has. This isn't an $800 iphone after all
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richteralan said:
If the camera is important to you, you should've bought a REAL camera.
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Wow, who are you guys? The OP asked a simple and reverent question in the right subforum. Proof of what's become of XDA.
Okay, we had a similar question in the HTC Inspire thread, and we ended up with a good list of camera settings (reduce sharpness, don't use auto-ISO, etc). We get the same question in the Nexus 4 thread and you guys jump down his throat. Nice.
My Nexus 4 hasn't arrived yet, so I haven't had a chance to experiment with it. Admittedly, there is only so much you can do with low-cost hardware, but there are techniques to consider. Until we get some useful answers, you may want to consider some of the things we did for the HTC Inspire (which also has a bit of a lackluster camera):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875230
- Jim
macr0t0r said:
Okay, we had a similar question in the HTC Inspire thread, and we ended up with a good list of camera settings (reduce sharpness, don't use auto-ISO, etc). We get the same question in the Nexus 4 thread and you guys jump down his throat. Nice.
My Nexus 4 hasn't arrived yet, so I haven't had a chance to experiment with it. Admittedly, there is only so much you can do with low-cost hardware, but there are techniques to consider. Until we get some useful answers, you may want to consider some of the things we did for the HTC Inspire (which also has a bit of a lackluster camera):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875230
- Jim
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Great thread indeed. If I have time (probably next week), I'll get a camera app that can enable those settings (hint:stock camera app doesn't have those settings) and do some science
I tried the lgCamera app from the Play Store which is supposed to allow more settings like ISO.
I don't think it's working, the pictures look very similar on all ISO settings. It's impossible to tell
for sure because the picture headers don't have the ISO information.
My old Chinese phone has an Engineering Menu that exposes some of the hardware parameters.
Is there anything similar in Jelly Bean?
You could try Camera FV-5 from the play store. I've used it on my One S and it offers a lot of manual controls. My N4 arrives tomorrow so can't tell you how it works, yet, for this phone.
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Wow, who are you guys? The OP asked a simple and reverent question in the right subforum. Proof of what's become of XDA.
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Agreed, the man asked if the camera can be improved. Don't freaking defend the crappy camera. This is xda. This is where we mod **** till it freaking explodes. Not whine and defend stuff.
Forget picture quality what about sound ! Its terrible on recordings. Background noise sounds garbled. In fact its a chorus for flanger type effect which could be down to the stereo mics?
I already know that it has Sony IMX111PQ chip used also in IPhone 5 and LG 4X HD which are taking better pictures, so did anyone improve drivers for 8MP camera in Nexus 4?
iPhone 5 is not going to help us.
Sent from my N4, wanna know what I am doing? Check http://team-fun.eu
I put iphone there only because it uses the same cam chip as Nexus 4, but it is making better pictures with it, so it must be the drivers and software issue.
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I put iphone there only because it uses the same cam chip as Nexus 4, but it is making better pictures with it, so it must be the drivers and software issue.
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The lens makes a difference too, however AOSP has been known to not have the best camera libraries out there.
They do not have the same optics period.
Where or who told you that they are the same are simply dead wrong.
It would be possible to change the camera with an iPhone 5's? I mean, if the connections are the same, and the driver needed is the same...
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It would be possible to change the camera with an iPhone 5's? I mean, if the connections are the same, and the driver needed is the same...
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LOL if the camera is the same and the drivers are the same then there'll be no improvement
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LOL if the camera is the same and the drivers are the same then there'll be no improvement
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The chip is the same, the optics are different.
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No no and more no. They don't share anything. They are completely different period.
Let's forget all the obvious things like the different part numbers of the back camera etc.
The nexus has a 8mp sensor with a pixel size of 1.1 micron pixels. The iPhone 5 has a 8mp sensor with 1.4 micron pixels.
Both phones have been out for a year and yet people still are spreading FUD about what is in them. They are completely different the end.
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Huawei P20 Pro come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Having trouble with autofocus on the P20 pro in videos. It seems to effectively render the zoom unuseable. Am I doing something wrong? Do I Have a faulty handset?
MC268 said:
Having trouble with autofocus on the P20 pro in videos. It seems to effectively render the zoom unuseable. Am I doing something wrong? Do I Have a faulty handset?
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What kind of trouble exactly? I'd be happy to test if you can give me a scenario.
One thing I have noticed on my end is that slow-mo at x8 and x32 seems to experience some form of "snow" effect on the video, it's not noise in the sense of grain or low video resolution, but actual white / blue pixels scattered throughout the video. In x4 mode this doesn't happen....and I'm pretty sure prior to the 107 upgrade this wasn't present.
Can anyone confirm?
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What kind of trouble exactly? I'd be happy to test if you can give me a scenario.
One thing I have noticed on my end is that slow-mo at x8 and x32 seems to experience some form of "snow" effect on the video, it's not noise in the sense of grain or low video resolution, but actual white / blue pixels scattered throughout the video. In x4 mode this doesn't happen....and I'm pretty sure prior to the 107 upgrade this wasn't present.
Can anyone confirm?
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confirmed. that's scandalous!
max.barrett said:
confirmed. that's scandalous!
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On the one hand as terrible as it is, and don't get me wrong, it really is!
I'm glad that:
1) I've not gone mad
2) I'm not the only one
Clearly it's a software change that has caused the issue, so I hope they can resolve it. I think I'm going to look to find a means of sending this feedback.
Working in the software field myself, and prior to that QA and customer facing fields, I'm well aware that these things can happen. It's just such a shame that when the one thing the phone is touted for seems to be suffering massively
If anyone can post their thoughts, or even workarounds should they find them it'd be massively appreciated.
I have S8 and I would like to sell it and buy P20 Pro. Please can you tell me which one is better for video? I know that P20 Pro in 4K dont have stabilization, but I have DJi Osmo Mobile 2. I habe sometimes problem with S8, when you recording people it start to be so much smooth. But everything is very good. But now I nees better.
I need to know which one is better? Focus, detail, shadows and etc...
Thx a lot
isko01 said:
I have S8 and I would like to sell it and buy P20 Pro. Please can you tell me which one is better for video? I know that P20 Pro in 4K dont have stabilization, but I have DJi Osmo Mobile 2. I habe sometimes problem with S8, when you recording people it start to be so much smooth. But everything is very good. But now I nees better.
I need to know which one is better? Focus, detail, shadows and etc...
Thx a lot
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Sorry to say I can't help you on this one!
I'm coming from a Galaxy Note 4, so anything I would say probably isn't worth the time to read
5nak3 said:
Sorry to say I can't help you on this one!
I'm coming from a Galaxy Note 4, so anything I would say probably isn't worth the time to read
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Thx a lot man i hope someone will help me soon
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What kind of trouble exactly? I'd be happy to test if you can give me a scenario.
One thing I have noticed on my end is that slow-mo at x8 and x32 seems to experience some form of "snow" effect on the video, it's not noise in the sense of grain or low video resolution, but actual white / blue pixels scattered throughout the video. In x4 mode this doesn't happen....and I'm pretty sure prior to the 107 upgrade this wasn't present.
Can anyone confirm?
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I was told do hardreset the phone by Huawei which didn't solve the probs with slow-mow (x8 and x32) entirely. There's some kind of little visible improvement but it's still disappointing, especially regarding the price & hype of the phone.
Now, Customer Support asked for my IMEI in order to forward the issue to R&D. (Hm, that firmware-bug depends to/on my IMEI? Prolly not. Just wondering.)
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I was told do hardreset the phone by Huawei which didn't solve the probs with slow-mow (x8 and x32) entirely. There's some kind of little visible improvement but it's still disappointing, especially regarding the price & hype of the phone.
Now, Customer Support asked for my IMEI in order to forward the issue to R&D. (Hm, that firmware-bug depends to/on my IMEI? Prolly not. Just wondering.)
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Probably not..
But maybe a bad batch?
max.barrett said:
I was told do hardreset the phone by Huawei which didn't solve the probs with slow-mow (x8 and x32) entirely. There's some kind of little visible improvement but it's still disappointing, especially regarding the price & hype of the phone.
Now, Customer Support asked for my IMEI in order to forward the issue to R&D. (Hm, that firmware-bug depends to/on my IMEI? Prolly not. Just wondering.)
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Hmm ok that's interesting...i mean bad batch could be explained if you had the issues on the older firmware. But these issues only appeared when i was updated to the new firmware on my end.
I've not heard back from them yet, might chase again because again hardware defect I'd expect to manifest itself in other shooting modes not just a specific case x8 and x32
5nak3 said:
Hmm ok that's interesting...i mean bad batch could be explained if you had the issues on the older firmware. But these issues only appeared when i was updated to the new firmware on my end.
I've not heard back from them yet, might chase again because again hardware defect I'd expect to manifest itself in other shooting modes not just a specific case x8 and x32
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Have you tried a hardreset? Any improvement?
Regarding the bad batch possibility, slow-mo in x4 should be affected also, shouldn't it?
Does anyone know if Huawei plans on putting out an update that adds stabilization to 4k video? Kind of like what OnePlus did with the OP5?
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Have you tried a hardreset? Any improvement?
Regarding the bad batch possibility, slow-mo in x4 should be affected also, shouldn't it?
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I've not had a chance to hard reset I'm afraid.
I honestly believe batch issues, i.e. hardware, would be affected in other camera modes and all slowmo speeds. The camera is fine for everything but two settings in slowmo video, that to me sounds more like a firmware bug than anything.
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I've not had a chance to hard reset I'm afraid.
I honestly believe batch issues, i.e. hardware, would be affected in other camera modes and all slowmo speeds. The camera is fine for everything but two settings in slowmo video, that to me sounds more like a firmware bug than anything.
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The Slo-Mo is awful, like most phones - get over it.
Did P20 Pro have 240fps at 1080?
no it has last year flagship specs for video and limited stabilization options
Most worse smartphone on video section and the selfie shooter is a joke i regret exchanging it for the s9 plus, huge mistake !! Thnksfully tye battery life is awesome pictures also
bouyhy01 said:
Most worse smartphone on video section and the selfie shooter is a joke i regret exchanging it for the s9 plus, huge mistake !! Thnksfully tye battery life is awesome pictures also
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Hi bouyhy,
Why is very bad video? I know that 4K don't have stabilization. Is there any other bad thing?
I have S8 and im planning to sell it an buy P20 Pro. I just try P20 Pro in store, for a shot time and I like vide, video is much more sharpness then S8 what is better for me. But how I say I try It for very short time. Please can you tell me what was other bad things in video? For stabilization I have DJi Osmo Mobile, I think that will help me a lot.
I had the s8 for almost a year and sell for tge s9 plus and i guarantee you that the s8 is way way better than this p20 pro on video shooting, stabilization sharpness quality dynamic range everything, i own the p20 pro for about 4 weeks now and tried everything the video shooting is too bad, i prefer galaxy s6 or even s5 videos, but if huawe8 cares about his customers they xill push updraes o fux that with selfie shooter too, but for now they did nothing. Personally if you care about videos keep your s8 or go for the pixel 2 or wait for htc u12