Anybody in Canada have the Xperia Z yet?
If you have the 6603 model (LTE capable) can you post how good the connection is?
Apparently 6603 will have problems with LTE and 3G networks here, hence why the Z is not coming to Canada.
ssj_jaypee said:
Anybody in Canada have the Xperia Z yet?
If you have the 6603 model (LTE capable) can you post how good the connection is?
Apparently 6603 will have problems with LTE and 3G networks here, hence why the Z is not coming to Canada.
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I do hope it works well on only band 7 on fido's network..as advertised.
Will let you know once I get it, hopefully in 2 weeks or so..
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Thanks.
I'm on Rogers currently, but will be switching to Telus next month.
Hopefully they work well too.
I am considering the 6602 model if that works flawlessly here as I do not care about LTE that much, though would prefer 6603 if it actually works well.
Hspa+ should work fine on Telus on 850 MHz but lte not.
Related to 02 version, imo, it's not worthwhile, I'd wait for the rumored 6606 supporting aws.
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millicent said:
Hspa+ should work fine on Telus on 850 MHz but lte not.
Related to 02 version, imo, it's not worthwhile, I'd wait for the rumored 6606 supporting aws.
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any rumored dates for the 6606?
I don't want to wait forever.... might as well get the HTC One or Galaxy S4 instead if we have to wait until April or longer.....
I just ordered the 6603 from Handtec UK.
Once it arrives I will also post results on LTE and 3G performance.
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I just ordered the 6603 from Handtec UK.
Once it arrives I will also post results on LTE and 3G performance.
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Why would you buy the 6603?
I am pretty sure won't work in Telus lte network.
I am quite at peace with the lack of Canadian lte bands but I am ok with fido myself..
As rumors go, the 6606 will be here in march.
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millicent said:
Why would you buy the 6603?
I am pretty sure won't work in Telus lte network.
I am quite at peace with the lack of Canadian lte bands but I am ok with fido myself..
As rumors go, the 6606 will be here in march.
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Couldn't find the 6602 anywhere to purchase and not enough info on the 6606.
I'll be furious if Sony actually release the 6606 next month.
They are really doing a poor job handling the information and distribution of this phone.
Is the 6606 even official?
DdcCabuslay said:
Is the 6606 even official?
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It's on the list of PS certified devices in the US along all other Z models. And some insider info confirmed it's coming to the US (most likely ATT) and thus Rogers will have it too, as usual.
Patience is virtue.
ChrisMCP said:
It's on the list of PS certified devices in the US along all other Z models. And some insider info confirmed it's coming to the US (most likely ATT) and thus Rogers will have it too, as usual.
Patience is virtue.
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Ok. I did hear about the 6066 as being PS certified, but never heard anything official. Then what will happen to the ZL, which is coming to a good handful of our carriers?
I'm hoping the aws version comes to canada..or if wind mobile gets it
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It's on the list of PS certified devices in the US along all other Z models. And some insider info confirmed it's coming to the US (most likely ATT) and thus Rogers will have it too, as usual.
Patience is virtue.
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Lol patience.
HTC and Samsung will have their flagship phones out before Sony get their **** together.
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Lol patience.
HTC and Samsung will have their flagship phones out before Sony get their **** together.
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I think iphone 5s will be just around the corner when sony gets its **** together... in canada
Related
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/04/htc-support-site-reveals-hero-for-sprint-snap-for-alltel/
Seems like I'll be getting a Hero in October
does anyone know if the hero will be coming to AT&T??
I think it's ridiculous that AT&T hasn't picked up ANY android devices yet.
poppinpengawen said:
does anyone know if the hero will be coming to AT&T??
I think it's ridiculous that AT&T hasn't picked up ANY android devices yet.
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Well, didn't it go to the FCC with AT&T bands?
Nahh. I dont think it will be going to ATT!
Its pretty much comfirmed by now that it will be coming to Sprint. Sucks for me but guess ill be moving.
im gonna go sell my HTC Hero which arrives tomorrow and just wait for the us Version.
Yes, 850 & 1900 3G bands were passed for the HERO on the FCC side. How much you wanna bet it goes to Rogers before AT&T. I think that's why it was passed thru the FCC which is fine by me as that model will work fine thru AT&T 3G bands here in the USA.
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Yes, 850 & 1900 3G bands were passed for the HERO on the FCC side. How much you wanna bet it goes to Rogers before AT&T. I think that's why it was passed thru the FCC which is fine by me as that model will work fine thru AT&T 3G bands here in the USA.
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have you checked the new rumors and sources...
There was a link on HTC website support page which stated
"HTC HERO (Sprint)"
dont believe me try this:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/04/htc-support-site-reveals-hero-for-sprint-snap-for-alltel/
i take the FCC approval as better news that its coming to ATT than HTC website showin HTC Hero (Sprint)...that does not show enough evidence that it will release on sprint...typo or or whatever can happen...we just have to wait and see...waiting for more news on the sony xperia x3 snap dragon thats a beast of a android phone.
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i take the FCC approval as better news that its coming to ATT than HTC website showin HTC Hero (Sprint)...that does not show enough evidence that it will release on sprint...typo or or whatever can happen...we just have to wait and see...waiting for more news on the sony xperia x3 snap dragon thats a beast of a android phone.
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There is far more evidence to support a Sprint release than an ATT release. The FCC approval could easily be for an unlocked 3G version of the device, and have nothing to do with ATT. Everyone just assumed it was for ATT. Live in denial all you want, but it's looking more and more likely that the Hero is coming to Sprint. A typo as specific as that is just way to unlikely.
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There is far more evidence to support a Sprint release than an ATT release. The FCC approval could easily be for an unlocked 3G version of the device, and have nothing to do with ATT. Everyone just assumed it was for ATT. Live in denial all you want, but it's looking more and more likely that the Hero is coming to Sprint. A typo as specific as that is just way to unlikely.
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Or maybe, just maybe, it's coming to both. One interesting note is that the FCC document is called NM8_HOT. NM8 is used to identify HTC as it relates to the FCC. I was wondering if HOT might actually be H(er)OT where T is also AT&T's stock symbol. I dunno...
I don't like Sprint but I welcome any Android devices on more carriers. The more widespread it is, the more end users and developers we'll get.
the model that passed the FCC could merely be a version for Canada or Latin America. one of the Omnia's passed the FCC with AT&T's 3G bands, but it turned out that it was bound for Latin America, which I guess uses the same bands as AT&T does. I'd love to get this phone, but idk if I'm willing to pay the full unlocked price from Clove, especially taking into account all the issues I've read and heard about the lagging and such. if it had a better processor, then I'd consider buying an unlocked one, but since it doesn't, I think I'll be waiting for a better Android phone. possibly the Sony Ericsson one
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the model that passed the FCC could merely be a version for Canada
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While I'm eagerly waiting for the HTC Hero to come to Canada, is there any specific reason why the FCC has to file and go over phone destined for Canada or Latin America?
I am on AT&T for the main reason that I travel frequently to Europe and Asia (Japan, Hong Kong) and it's the carrier who happens to have devices with 3G bands compatible nearly worldwide (Even though I don't like so much the price AT&T is costing me...)
So... really considering now to switch to the Galaxy tab and say good bye to my good old TP2 (heavily overclocked so still with a bit of life in it !)
I have a few questions
1. there are rumors here and there saying the Tab for AT&T wont have the front facing camera (And then some other places where it's listed as a spec of the AT&T tab). Anybody can confirm / infirm this ? (Would be really pissed to pay such a price for the device if it has been castrated)
2. AT&T is the last US carrier not to have announced a launch date for the tab... (Maybe it's willing to be a bit nice to Apple and its recently commercialized iPad, or maybe it's just an old and slow company...). Pure speculation: is there a chance we'll be able to switch the tab bands from T-Mobile like some have successfully done with other Samsung phones from the galaxy family ?
3. Another pure speculation: has Samsung actually disabled the hardware for voice calls on the US versions ? I hope his will be solved by flashing another firmware. Otherwise I'll just end up buying an international version (Which will be much more expensive...)
You can get the unlocked north american version which should be out by next week. It will cost you an arm and a leg but WILL work with the 850/1900 at&t 3g bands. Here are a few sites that have it:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=26929
or
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-p1000-galaxy-tab-3g-850-1900-2100-oem-unlocked.html
Hope this helps.
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You can get the unlocked north american version which should be out by next week. It will cost you an arm and a leg but WILL work with the 850/1900 at&t 3g bands. Here are a few sites that have it:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=26929
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http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-p1000-galaxy-tab-3g-850-1900-2100-oem-unlocked.html
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Thanks. Yes these bands are AT&T ones. Though waiting a few more weeks should allow to get it directly from AT&T at a lower price...
The good news is, if the websites are correct about the specs, the front facing camera is there (And I doubt Samsung will make a different Tab)
Seem to imply the voice call work to (negrielectronics) but it could be a mistake or a trick (works only through skype...) or just simple taht we are talking about an overseas model with the right 3G bands
Alcibiade said:
Thanks. Yes these bands are AT&T ones. Though waiting a few more weeks should allow to get it directly from AT&T at a lower price...
The good news is, if the websites are correct about the specs, the front facing camera is there (And I doubt Samsung will make a different Tab)
Seem to imply the voice call work to (negrielectronics) but it could be a mistake or a trick (works only through skype...) or just simple taht we are talking about an overseas model with the right 3G bands
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What concerns me are the comments that suggest US carriers will somehow restrict their service to GT so only data will work (no voice). So that raises the question for those of us who get the unlocked version - how do we get our Gt on to ATT or others? I guess I'm asking which ATT phone is it close enough to that I can acuire and swap the SIM card?
Alcibiade said:
Thanks. Yes these bands are AT&T ones. Though waiting a few more weeks should allow to get it directly from AT&T at a lower price...
The good news is, if the websites are correct about the specs, the front facing camera is there (And I doubt Samsung will make a different Tab)
Seem to imply the voice call work to (negrielectronics) but it could be a mistake or a trick (works only through skype...) or just simple taht we are talking about an overseas model with the right 3G bands
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Well, from what I hear is the 850/1900 band version will be an unlocked north amaerican version which can work with rogers (Canada) and at&t for the US by just adding your SIM card in. It is unknow weather the at&t network will identify the galaxy tab and change your plan accordingly if that is even how it will work with at&t. I beleive they WILL have a different plan for data for this device as T-Mobile, Sprint and Verizon are following this. Also, the at&t version WILL be a different model in appreance and features as this unlocked one will not. Probablly because at&t WILL remove the front camera and who knows what else (thanks to the iphone). That is why the samsung site has not put the at&t version on their site yet. really do hope it will be treated as a PDA phone thru at&t's network (for the unlocked version)
Raspster said:
You can get the unlocked north american version which should be out by next week. It will cost you an arm and a leg but WILL work with the 850/1900 at&t 3g bands. Here are a few sites that have it:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=26929
or
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-p1000-galaxy-tab-3g-850-1900-2100-oem-unlocked.html
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I just heard today from Negri electronic that this version of the tab will not be available until JANUARY ...so don't bother pre-ordering it.
clubtech said:
I just heard today from Negri electronic that this version of the tab will not be available until JANUARY ...so don't bother pre-ordering it.
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That's funny as they told me last Friday that the warehouse in CA is expecting them on November 10th. Also, I work near the mobile city online store in NYC and stopped in there and they said this week they would have them. hmmm
UPDATE: Just sent a message to my contact @ Nergi. He said they just received the notice that this version of the tab will not be in till early 2011. You were right clubtech... Was hoping you were wrong.. lol That sucks!
Mmh all I have been reading so far sucks
Figured I would fire up this thread and bump it up as Bell is releasing the Galaxy Tab on November 12th. That will be our solution for the 850/1900 3G version I guess..? I sent a message to Nergi to see if they will have this version. I'll keep you posted.
I have my G-Tab now (Euro version with phone and data working great on AT&T in USA) Be glad to answer questions. General comment: I LOVE it! The form factor and wt are just right for me and it has all the features I miss on my iPad. Only criticism is that I find Android a bit less stable than IOS but that might be what Gingerbread or Honeycomb will address.
brucewilsonpa said:
I have my G-Tab now (Euro version with phone and data working great on AT&T in USA) Be glad to answer questions. General comment: I LOVE it! The form factor and wt are just right for me and it has all the features I miss on my iPad. Only criticism is that I find Android a bit less stable than IOS but that might be what Gingerbread or Honeycomb will address.
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Are you getting good 3g coverage? I see your in PA... Close to me. I know the 1900 band does blanket this area to some degree but the 850 band is alot stronger. I think I may wait for a full 3g band with both 850/1900 bands. Seems like the bell version will be the answer to that. Glad to hear you love the device.
I read that the bell version can't make any phone calls fyi .
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Are you getting good 3g coverage? I see your in PA... Close to me. I know the 1900 band does blanket this area to some degree but the 850 band is alot stronger. I think I may wait for a full 3g band with both 850/1900 bands. Seems like the bell version will be the answer to that. Glad to hear you love the device.
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Yes the 3g coverage is fine in the Reading area (better than my iphone, not sure why) I made decision to go for the Eur version when it became apparent the ATT version would be limited to data (no phone) and I couldn't get an answer on whether the "North American" version (with 850 UMTS) would arrive with phone capability OK. I saw a map of ATT 1900 coverage and saw that it takes care of at least 75% of the US, including virtuall all of the East, so I'm comfortable with my decision.
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Figured I would fire up this thread and bump it up as Bell is releasing the Galaxy Tab on November 12th. That will be our solution for the 850/1900 3G version I guess..? I sent a message to Nergi to see if they will have this version. I'll keep you posted.
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Yes that's my hope. It's also probably a sign the AT&T one must be around the corner
I could not find out whether the Bell one would have call functions or not (That would be another great sign or opportunity)
clubtech said:
I read that the bell version can't make any phone calls fyi .
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Is it a confirmed information ?
Thanks for the info
http://www.bgr.com/2011/05/05/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-passes-fcc-with-att-3g-bands/
Fyi Samsung and at&t have an event May 25th. Could be to announced this phone!
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http://www.bgr.com/2011/05/05/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-passes-fcc-with-att-3g-bands/
Fyi Samsung and at&t have an event May 25th. Could be to announced this phone!
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Samsung and AT&T have an event at 4pm today. Samsung has an event on their own May 24 with no carriers announced.
Im guessing tonight's event is to announce the infuse 4g :/
Chad_Petree said:
Im guessing tonight's event is to announce the infuse 4g :/
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already confirmed, it's for the infuse.
Yes, see the Infuse now. Which looks like a nice phone. But not nice on SGS2 level.
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I don't understand the big deal on the SGS II with 850/1900. The one I received yesterday has 850/900/1900/2100 3G! So I think they just certified the i9100 *now* with the FCC.
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I don't understand the big deal on the SGS II with 850/1900. The one I received yesterday has 850/900/1900/2100 3G! So I think they just certified the i9100 *now* with the FCC.
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i dont get it either. didnt the galaxy s 2 already go thru FCC testing long ago? this thread may be a US-variant or something. but the exact model everyone is shipping in from the UK right now (all the handtec ones) that model has gone thru fcc already, hasnt it?
GT-I9020T (Nexus S) - T-Mobile
GT-I9020A (Nexus S) - ATT
If you are to follow the naming convention above, then this should be for T-Mobile.
GT-I9100T (GS2) - T-Mobile
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GT-I9020T (Nexus S) - T-Mobile
GT-I9020A (Nexus S) - ATT
If you are to follow the naming convention above, then this should be for T-Mobile.
GT-I9100T (GS2) - T-Mobile
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Nice catch. I can't wait for the May 25th event!
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GT-I9020T (Nexus S) - T-Mobile
GT-I9020A (Nexus S) - ATT
If you are to follow the naming convention above, then this should be for T-Mobile.
GT-I9100T (GS2) - T-Mobile
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You would think, however it has AT&T bands, not T-mobile bands.
nomisunrider said:
You would think, however it has AT&T bands, not T-mobile bands.
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For the I9000, there was a "t" version for Latin America. So who really knows?
Apparently Canada is supposed to get it before the U.S. too. As the 3 major carriers have AT&T bands, it doesn't really matter where it goes first to me.
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For the I9000, there was a "t" version for Latin America. So who really knows?
Apparently Canada is supposed to get it before the U.S. too. As the 3 major carriers have AT&T bands, it doesn't really matter where it goes first to me.
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FCC is U.S.A., not Canada
Virtue94 said:
Nice catch. I can't wait for the May 25th event!
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the 25th may event could very likely be the samsung 10.1 and 8.9 tablets. they are supposed to be available in june. i'm hoping for the sgs2 myself
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/07/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-canadian-carriers/
Update: Sure enough, Mobilicity is also onboard, which along with Wind Mobile makes it pretty clear that T-Mobile-friendly AWS frequencies are baked in.
We pretty much knew it is coming to the states. The question is when. Hopefully not much will be changed.
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We pretty much knew it is coming to the states. The question is when. Hopefully not much will be changed.
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Well now, you can get one with AWS Bands without waiting till like.... October/November on Tmo..
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We pretty much knew it is coming to the states. The question is when. Hopefully not much will be changed.
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Yup. The real question is the US gonna get the nerfed version. I want no part of that.
So is it going to be like the Galaxy Nexus where you could buy the Canadian version which was the same phone.. Will the Canadian phone be same but with the 1700 band or will there b differences?
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I have not read anywhere that the international version, i9300, is a pentaband HSDPA phone. Also, GSMArena has it listed as a quad band so it will not work on T-Mobiles 4G network. It looks like if/when it does come to T-Mo, it will need to be a customized version.
Prob a customized Canadian version...
The good news is that Tmo users do not need to wait another 6 months till the SGS III comes out in Tmo
Any idea on whether this will have the same processor as the international version?
I'm betting it will have a s4 processor. I hope I'm wrong....
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Mobilicity doesn't have LTE. we just have wait and see, what they do to the phone.
This just means a custom aws version will also be released. Doesn't look like the international version has T-Mobile hspa. So it will probably not come with the exynos CPU etc.
htc fan89 said:
I'm betting it will have a s4 processor. I hope I'm wrong....
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what's wrong with the S4 Qualcomn?
it;s as beefy as any of the new SOC, even faster than the nVidia Tegra
I personally would like the GSM NA variants to be as close to the international version as possible. Mostly because of the ease of porting custom ROMs. And I really do like my GT-I9100's physical home button. Hope that makes it over, but I doubt it (the NA models never had it, so getting one on the GS3 will break the design/UI continuity).
so how does one go about getting Mobilicity or wind mobile's gs3? bestbuy.ca doesnt ship outside of Canada. some carrier's website dont let you buy phone @ full price.
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so how does one go about getting Mobilicity or wind mobile's gs3? bestbuy.ca doesnt ship outside of Canada. some carrier's website dont let you buy phone @ full price.
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that's why you need contacts and/or friends in different countries to help you for these kind of stuff
also mentioned in this other topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26224887
One of major differences is that Japanese model has One Seg tv tuner and IR blaster installed. LTE bands are, however, limited to local bands only, so it is not global LTE you can find in models outside of japan.
and btw, it would be available here on Feb 9th, so I guess it will be debut on home turf.
Would like to know what's one seg? I thought it was just an apk bloatware or something lol
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Would like to know what's one seg? I thought it was just an apk bloatware or something lol
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You can watch TV on your phone if it supports 1seg, but that's something only Japan has
Ambroos said:
You can watch TV on your phone if it supports 1seg, but that's something only Japan has
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basically is it a tv tunner???
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basically is it a tv tunner???
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For a special network, yes. Completely useless outside Japan.
Did a research lol! And yes it's a tv tuner and what's great was I found the info on a review of HTC Butterfly J
Anyways it's available only on Japan, Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru so yeah pretty useless.
But just wondering they all keep saying the devices have the same hardware. So would that mean that even the global Xperia Z has the capabilities of infrared blaster and 1seg but is just disabled?
Japan has a totally different 2G network and seems other network also different...
Wouldn't the network band be altered just by flashing a baseband from another variant?
Even though the Japanese Z seems to have 'extra' features, remember however that since they wont be available outside Japan, development will be very limited, if any. The safest bet would be to go for an 'International' version with an unlocked bootloader.
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Even though the Japanese Z seems to have 'extra' features, remember however that since they wont be available outside Japan, development will be very limited, if any. The safest bet would be to go for an 'International' version with an unlocked bootloader.
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Unless you live in Japan
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Japan has a totally different 2G network and seems other network also different...
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Actually Japan is 3G and LTE only...there is no 2G...well in the Airport only...maybe
whoa ir blaster would have come handy lucky Japanese
why fix it if it ain't broken ?
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Actually Japan is 3G and LTE only...
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Not true...
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Well, I am seriously considering getting this phone here in Japan; but I would like to be able to root and flash AOSP as I have done with my Galaxy Nexus, which is the Japanese variant.
I'm looking forward to unlocked bootloaders and AOSP ROMs
Japan has no GSM, it has WCDMA, cdma2000-1x, and LTE as well as an almost totally dead 2G network called PDC.
Japanese one-seg tuners may be able to physically receive south american signals but they can't decode them due to different encodings on the streams. ISDB-T is used in japan. Elsewhere uses a slight variant called ISDB-Tb.
Japanese XZ is supposed to be quad band GSM, triband WCDMA and hexa-band LTE-FDD vs I believe penta-band WCDMA elsewhere.
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ZL is clocked at 1.7ghz and Z at 1.5ghz but both have s4 pro processor
Sv: Japanese Xperia Z has different specs
i9100g user said:
ZL is clocked at 1.7ghz and Z at 1.5ghz but both have s4 pro processor
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No it don't
Look at this
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...FvRgM8aGn4AfoCHVQ&sig2=AnOregff31k2YYd2K1keCw
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No it don't
Look at this
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Looks like my sources are wrong :silly: