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REQ: Nexus s honeycomb rom

I was wondering. Now that the honeycomb sdk was released will therebe ports to nexus s and who is working on it?
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I'm sure there will be. You should add [REQ] to the topic
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Can't wait to see what the developers have in store for us in the future. I love my Nexus S

* the SDK is an early port and not fully working.
* The OS is made for tablet and will look unusable on your device...
I think you should wait for the official release.
By the way, I am impressed by the lack of dev's on the Nexus S, we have only CM7 coming and the ROM's can be counted on the fingers of one hand!

profete162 said:
By the way, I am impressed by the lack of dev's on the Nexus S, we have only CM7 coming and the ROM's can be counted on the fingers of one hand!
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I keep telling myself things will pick up but idk.

Ya alot of phones got released same time as nexus many ppl opted for other and being its samsung doesnt help but hopefully we'll see i hope it does pick up man i remember still when i had winmo 5 just flashing 6 there were like devs by the hundreds lol

profete162 said:
* The OS is made for tablet and will look unusable on your device...
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it will work on lower resolution such as 800x480 (eg. nexus s size)
we just have to have adw or launcher pro as the home.

demo23019 said:
I keep telling myself things will pick up but idk.
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Sometimes it's about the quality of Roms, not necessarily the numbers. Cyanogenmod is the most significant rom since it is built from aosp not ota.
Honeycomb is built for tablets. Sure smartphone version will come but honestly a sdk port isn't worth a daily driver. Well have to see.
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I know this is old, but they have a release out, but it has far too many flaws to be near stable, it's still in alpha

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I know this is old, but they have a release out, but it has far too many flaws to be near stable, it's still in alpha
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Its being worked on so I have faith it'll turn around. More devs are joining the project by the day. It'll get usable fast as long as there are devs willing to work on it and people willing to waste time testing it hehe

CyanogenMod 9!

It's official! CyanogenMod 9 is coming to the eeePad Transformer!
CM 9 Progress Update
We’ve been hard at work on CM9 since Google released Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) into the wild last month, and things are slowly starting to come together. Google did a great job with ICS and added some really awesome features which in some cases replace or deprecate functionality that we had in CM7, so we are reevaluating all of our customizations. A number of devices are already up and running with CM9, and the focus is currently on getting as many devices ready as we can. The first devices (besides the Nexus S, which you can already get from Koush’s section on ROM Manager) that we’ll have ready will mostly likely be devices based on OMAP4, MSM8660/7X30, and Exynos. We also have some Tegra2 tablets in the pipeline such as the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Asus Transformer. Our goal is to provide continued support to all CM7 devices back to the QSD8250 series of devices such as the Nexus One. I don’t want to make any promises at this time, but that is the plan. And sorry Droid1 owners, we’re dropping support for you. Time to upgrade
There are a number of challenges that we are up against. Google has made some pretty major changes to the Android framework that break compatibility with older proprietary camera and graphics drivers in order to achieve some pretty insane performance, but I am confident that the team will be able to overcome these issues like we have in the past.
For those of you who like to build CM from source yourself, you probably know that the spin-up time when starting a CM7 build is absurdly long due to the high number of devices in our repository. Koush and Arcee have put together a solution to this problem that adds new devices on-demand to your local repository, saving on both bandwidth and the long startup time. Some other great enhancements are coming too, like a completely overhauled music app, a new file manager, and a new launcher based on stock 4.0.
If you have a Nexus S, you can check out the code and build for yourself today. More devices are on the way, and I’ll send out these status updates as we make more progress
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...I think I just came in my pants

Well.... Thats just f'ing awesome
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I'm sorry Roach/Prime... you were great but the wife is callin' me home.
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very good news.

xufuchang said:
very good news.
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I am so happy as soon as it is released I will donate to these guys!

Expected Release date ??

xMini said:
Expected Release date ??
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First rule of CM: do not ask for an ETA.

I hope they don't wait until it works on all devices to release this. They are nearly finished it, i would use it now.

see and wait.
Hopefully it takes not to long.

Gary13579 said:
I'm sorry Roach/Prime... you were great but the wife is callin' me home.
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Exactly what I was thinking. I love Prime and the work roach has been doing, but when I can get CM on the tablet, I will go running.

what's the advantage of CM vs Prime rom ?

Its Vanilla ICS. Most stable best battery life and best performance.
You have to try it to actually realize the differance. Which is like day and night
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Well, if Roach and Gnufabio can't get any Transformer love after CM9 hits, they should know the Acer A100 forum would hail them as gods...

I did not expect we would get an official, so much as one of our brillant devs would probably do it unofficially lol.
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Expect a build of cm9 from Roach with his own tweaks and improvements
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Spidey01 said:
I did not expect we would get an official, so much as one of our brillant devs would probably do it unofficially lol.
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It shouldn't be that shocking, the tablet sold *really* well. Xoom, GTab 10.1, and TF were basically the honeycomb tablets.
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Maybe we will see a tablet version of MIUI for us after CM9 hits.
I mean. The nook color got MIUI after it recieved official CM7 support. I dont see why we wouldnt. I cant wait
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the guys from Xiaomi (company behind MIUI roms) allready working on MIUI build on ICS so once they release first ICS MIUI it should not take long till we will see our first MIUI rom for TF
imitebewrong said:
Maybe we will see a tablet version of MIUI for us after CM9 hits.
I mean. The nook color got MIUI after it recieved official CM7 support. I dont see why we wouldnt. I cant wait
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othar said:
what's the advantage of CM vs Prime rom ?
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It'll be interesting to see what the difference is. CM is usually better than stock firmware sure so being as lean and cut-back as possible while still adding in extremely useful features.
Asus have done a great job of keeping their firmware bloat-free though, so it may not be too different, performance-wise. The biggest advantage will probably come from extended support. Asus probably won't upgrade the TF101 past 4.0 - having CM pretty much ensures that it will get every version of Android in the future so long as somebody is interested in getting it running.
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unfnknblvbl said:
It'll be interesting to see what the difference is. CM is usually better than stock firmware sure so being as lean and cut-back as possible while still adding in extremely useful features.
Asus have done a great job of keeping their firmware bloat-free though, so it may not be too different, performance-wise. The biggest advantage will probably come from extended support. Asus probably won't upgrade the TF101 past 4.0 - having CM pretty much ensures that it will get every version of Android in the future so long as somebody is interested in getting it running.
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A lot of the "bloat" Asus has added is incredibly useful. Polaris Office is really nice, and unavailable if Asus didn't include it. Same with Supernote, which is pretty good for free. Splashtop, again, expensive software included for free.
The **** I hate is them bundling things like Netflix... it's freely available on the market, and only available in select regions, why on earth would you bundle that?
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Will Samsung skip ICS and give us JB straight?

I really doubt it will comes true... but worth of dreaming....

I hope so :laugh:

Im guessing Sammy and Moto got the PDK beta a month or two ago, so while it is actually possible; in my mind, I know better to than to get my hopes up.

Careful gents its the hope that kills you. ;-)
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i wondered how you guys still trust and make hopes with this company!!
Samsung will not give you anything sir, it is just taking from you. don't kill your self by waiting the mirage

chrisrotolo said:
Im guessing Sammy and Moto got the PDK beta a month or two ago, so while it is actually possible; in my mind, I know better to than to get my hopes up.
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3 months according to google, but if anything is to arrive with Jellybean it will be the Note 2 or possibly a nexus successor.

Doubt it, they have announced ICS to be released between July and August, so why would they turn sround and decide to give us JB.
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The only way to have JB on our tab is to help the only one developer that worked hard on a CM9 porting
He needs donation since his tab is broken:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722634
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furius said:
The only way to have JB on our tab is to help the only one developer that worked hard on a CM9 porting
He needs donation since his tab is broken:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722634
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No disrespect but i think he was asking about stock JB not a modified ROM built from ICS/JB , not a lot of us are instered in mofied ROMS

Is that a trick question? Lets get ICS first
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Well there's another dev working at the tab that I know of, Sk806.
So Locera, SK806, that's two... Still not much but value both of them.
We should be happy we get ICS, it will just make us think we got a new device,
and the step to JB won't be that hard for the devs then.. I guess..I hope.. I don't care I want ICS now please, this HC feels sluggish.

ZhenMing said:
I really doubt it will comes true... but worth of dreaming....
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The nexus 7 pretty much rendered the tab 7.7 obsolete when it comes to software (and speed due to software optimization alone) . There's no salesman in the world that could sell it to a customer instead of the nexus 7.

appelflap said:
The nexus 7 pretty much rendered the tab 7.7 obsolete when it comes to software (and speed due to software optimization alone) . There's no salesman in the world that could sell it to a customer instead of the nexus 7.
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Ours has a bigger better screen ,and waaay thinner... sold! :highfive:

Skip ics. I'm running jelly bean on my galaxy nexus and I can say unequivocally that it's hands down better. I can't believe the difference.
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Nope, sadly. I'd like to keep this tab for awhile longer and it would be nice if Samsung showed up Apple and keeps updating it (and other recent Galaxy devices) for at least one more version. But, nah. Maybe it will be easier for someone to port 4.1 when the 4.0 source eventually gets out?
But if not...**** it, who cares. A few interface tweaks and some nice features, but the 7.7 will still be highly usable with ICS, I would say.

Theoretically the binary blob drivers that come with ICS source should be able to be used in JB builds? I'm guessing
The main obstacle in current ICS dev is lack of ICS drivers esp as they are closed sammy blobs

appelflap said:
The nexus 7 pretty much rendered the tab 7.7 obsolete when it comes to software (and speed due to software optimization alone) . There's no salesman in the world that could sell it to a customer instead of the nexus 7.
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Unless of course he is traveling salesman. Travel with Nexus 7 is somewhat restricted to about 100 meters.

I see no technical reason why the 7.7 should not be able to run JB unless JB needs 2Gb of memory.

Gaugerer said:
I see no technical reason why the 7.7 should not be able to run JB unless JB needs 2Gb of memory.
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Jelly Belly (yes i ment to say belly and not bean) does not need to have 2 gb of RAM. I hope ICS helps out the 7.7 but i also ordered a nexus 7 to see what it can offer for the price.

wintermute000 said:
Theoretically the binary blob drivers that come with ICS source should be able to be used in JB builds? I'm guessing
The main obstacle in current ICS dev is lack of ICS drivers esp as they are closed sammy blobs
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I was thinking the same thing. And hoping it is indeed the case.

Where is the GT-N8013 Developement?

I see a few GT-N8000 options, but no love for us US Wi-Fi Only (N8013) users.... Hopefully that will change soon

ej_424 said:
I see a few GT-N8000 options, but no love for us US Wi-Fi Only (N8013) users.... Hopefully that will change soon
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The device launched LAST THURSDAY...
Competent developers take time to test and polish their stuff, they don't just throw random crap out into the wild to claim "first".
The only reason the N8000 is ahead right now is because it had about a week headstart in availability.
I can tell you at least two Cyanogenmod device maintainers have purchased or have Note 10.1s on order - Myself (N8013 in my possession) and Espenfjo (N8000 on order), also I think chris41g and at least one other member of the CM team have N8013s.

Same for the Euro N8010 Wifi only version. No dev either...

Entropy512 said:
The device launched LAST THURSDAY...
Competent developers take time to test and polish their stuff, they don't just throw random crap out into the wild to claim "first".
The only reason the N8000 is ahead right now is because it had about a week headstart in availability.
I can tell you at least two Cyanogenmod device maintainers have purchased or have Note 10.1s on order - Myself (N8013 in my possession) and Espenfjo (N8000 on order), also I think chris41g and at least one other member of the CM team have N8013s.
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Understood and makes sense (wasn't aware they had the headstart). Glad to hear you have a 8013 as I've seen alot of good work from you in the past for current and previously owned devices. One quick question... maybe its too early to say, but do you see porting the S-Pen apps and functionality to CM 10 even as an option? Maybe its not even possible....
Thanks again!

I'm so looking forward to the boost CM will give to this tablet judging from my experience with CM9 giving new life to my old Galaxy S Epic 4G.

This device should be quite popular with Developers due to the s-pen. I am betting we have roms galore in about 30 days,
We have root already at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831152.

It just released, give it time.

ej_424 said:
Understood and makes sense (wasn't aware they had the headstart). Glad to hear you have a 8013 as I've seen alot of good work from you in the past for current and previously owned devices. One quick question... maybe its too early to say, but do you see porting the S-Pen apps and functionality to CM 10 even as an option? Maybe its not even possible....
Thanks again!
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Apps with the S-Pen SDK - No.
Apps that use the standard ICS Pen APIs - Yes - these are becoming more and more common. PS Touch may even be in this category, I won't know until I've tried. I had a bunch of N7000/I777 stuff to do this past weekend so didn't even start on CM10 bringup.
Built-in features such as stylus gestures and an included note-taking app - There was work started on this, the Note 10.1 will make it more important to get this stuff finished. Google dropping JB kind of put a hold on the "new CM features" stuff as we tried to un-break all the old ones.

Might I just say, it is [email protected] good to see you here, Entropy.
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One thing, as far as CM on the N80xx:
I probably could have had CM booting and mostly working with only a few hours of work. However, there's the "quick way" and there's the "right way". The "quick way" would've gotten my N8013 working without providing any benefit for N8000, and without leveraging I9300 commonality. The "right way" takes quite a bit more time - but leverages commonality with the I9300. I'm REALLY hoping we can use the same smdk4412 kernel source tree as the I9300 with just some patches, as it makes maintenance MUCH easier, but could take some time to initially pull in all the right patches.
Similarly, getting an N8013 device tree would've been easy. Having a "common" tree takes more time but means all N80xx devices will pretty much all be maintained to the same degree. See P51xx/P31xx...

Think I saw viperboy lurking in the forum
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Seeing alot of well known Dev's.. This is great and very encouraging. The hardware on this device is awsome, only complan and minor one at that is the screen resolution. In all honesty though it really doesnt bother me much as there ins't much jaggy endges.

As is usual - Whenever Samsung releases a new device (or even a major upgrade to an old device - See I9100 ICS cpufreq derpage which took multiple kernel developers 2-3 weeks to figure out), there's some really derped-up **** in the source.
Right now, any source-built kernel has massive issues with wifi - The SDIO interface just seems to shut down and the chip drops off the face of the earth. This does not happen in the stock kernel.
This one's gonna be a pain in the ass to figure out.
See attached dmesg for an example of the fun...

ilostmypistons said:
Think I saw viperboy lurking in the forum
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Heh, but I promise you I'm nowhere near as good as the CM guys are. Once I get my tablet, I might do a stock ROM with some tweaks but it won't be anything insane.
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Heh, but I promise you I'm nowhere near as good as the CM guys are. Once I get my tablet, I might do a stock ROM with some tweaks but it won't be anything insane.
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So modest
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ilostmypistons said:
So modest
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Lol viperboy has no cause for modesty
We look forward to his always excellent work.
I wonder what this will overclock to when they have the kernel figured out?
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model name doubt
HI my note 10.1 is the shw-m480w is the wifi version bough tin korea
how does translates to the other code names so i can flash a custom rom?
Thx in adv

Xoom not supported in AOSP

According to Jean-Baptiste Queru of the AOSP, the xoom and nexus aren't supported.... "There is no support for 4.2 on Nexus S and Xoom. Those devices should
continue using 4.1.2."
later, he says he cannot comment on the future of those devices. What does this mean for us?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951841
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Hmm I feel the Xoom would run 4.2 fine I think it is a marketing ploy to make people upgrade my Xoom still flies on 4.1 hopefully modders can help out as I don't really wanna up date
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joshndroid said:
Hmm I feel the Xoom would run 4.2 fine I think it is a marketing ploy to make people upgrade my Xoom still flies on 4.1 hopefully modders can help out as I don't really wanna up date
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I think they're working on it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885269
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unofficialy it will eventually come and it will run as smooth as nexus 10 because xoom has the capacity and hardware for it...it's not a big jump from 4.1.2 to 4.2

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it will run as smooth as nexus 10 because xoom has the capacity and hardware for it
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Don't kid yourself. The Xoom shows its age on 4.1.2 as it is. Compare the performance to a Nexus 7 or Galaxy Nexus and you can see the difference in speed. Just because the Xoom has the hardware to support the latest version, doesn't mean its going to keep up with devices with fresh hardware. Its coming up on 2 years as it is, which means a lot when there's new, better hardware coming out every ~6 months.

The one feature from 4.2 that I really wanted is multi user support. It was an obvious omission from tablets right from the beginning.
What are the chances of fully activating this feature in 4.1.2, seeing as it already has the underpinnings under the surface?

Yes, it's sad, but those that say it's a "marketing ploy" just need to realize how old the Xoom is and how much work it takes to port these new releases to devices. Money doesn't grow on trees, and neither do man-hours. Once the 4.2 branch started happening and the Nexus 10 hardware was finalized it became Google's standard 10-inch tablet internally. The guys who would have been doing the port internally in Google probably have N10s on their desks and their Xooms are collecting dust in some drawer. That's the way the world works.
That being said, if you look back to ICS, the 4.0.1 code dropped... and no Xoom support. Then the 4.0.2 code dropped... and no Xoom support. It wasn't until 4.0.3 that the Xoom gained AOSP support. I wouldn't be suprised to see the Xoom supported in a 4.2.2 (or later) release. The Nexus 4 isn't even supported in AOSP yet, for goodness' sakes! It will probably be someone's 20% time project and it will happen eventually.
Either way, if it doesn't hit AOSP, I'll either sell it to get some dough for a N10 (my mom has been talking about buying it from me) or lend my support to the porting process during the holiday break. The multi-user mode in 4.2 would be very useful on the Xoom.

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Don't kid yourself. The Xoom shows its age on 4.1.2 as it is. Compare the performance to a Nexus 7 or Galaxy Nexus and you can see the difference in speed. Just because the Xoom has the hardware to support the latest version, doesn't mean its going to keep up with devices with fresh hardware. Its coming up on 2 years as it is, which means a lot when there's new, better hardware coming out every ~6 months.
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dude dont be a ****ing noob, its not the "core" that matthers.

romdroid. said:
dude dont be a ****ing noob, its not the "core" that matthers.
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Thats a bit of a hostile response, don't you think?
And if by "core," you're referring to the SoC, yeah it kinda does matter. The tegra 2 is a tad outdated, its architecture being a big part of it (A9). The Tegra 3 was a nice upgrade on Nvidia's part, with the Samsung Exynos 5 being even better than that. I'm sure someone with even more technical expertise could explain more in detail on the differences, but the architecture itself is a good indicator.
Now on to personal experience. I've put my Xoom alongside a Nexus 7 and my Galaxy Nexus, all running 4.1.2 and yeah, the Xoom is noticeably slower. I can't wait to see the Nexus 10's performance in person. No one here is saying the Xoom is **** or slow or whatever. But it is, gasp, slower than devices with hardware that is fresh and not 2 years old. Newer technology is better, who knew?
So yeah...no offense but given the delightful way you went about disagreeing with me, I'd say you were projecting just a tad.
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That being said, if you look back to ICS, the 4.0.1 code dropped... and no Xoom support. Then the 4.0.2 code dropped... and no Xoom support. It wasn't until 4.0.3 that the Xoom gained AOSP support. I wouldn't be suprised to see the Xoom supported in a 4.2.2 (or later) release. The Nexus 4 isn't even supported in AOSP yet, for goodness' sakes! It will probably be someone's 20% time project and it will happen eventually.
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The difference with those instances and now is that the Xoom was projected to get all of those, it just took a bit of time for it to hit AOSP. According to the google groups statement, the Xoom is slated to stay on 4.1.2 (I forget the actual quote). Now of course, that could mean, as you say, that it might just be a while for it to hit AOSP, but I think that's being a bit hopeful. Hopefully we'll get an official word on it soon but I think thats about it, at least with regards to AOSP.
And honestly, the Xoom had 18+ months of official support. For those that remember, 18 months was what Google wanted manufacturers under the Android Update Alliance to go by for supporting devices. So they've met their own target and then some with regards to both the Xoom and the Nexus S.

It would be nice for the Xoom to have 4.2 support, but even if it doesn't happen, its been a fabulous 2 years, right? Because I think it has

alex94kumar said:
It would be nice for the Xoom to have 4.2 support, but even if it doesn't happen, its been a fabulous 2 years, right? Because I think it has
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It has been a fabulous 2 years, we'll still get 4.2 support, just unofficially

AOSP not supporting Xoom
No a very smart move by Google, me thinks, in not supporting Xoom after 4.1.2 ( Bless the custom mod gurus!!!). I know in my case I am going Windows Surface. Heres why, I just updated my 6 year old notebook to W8, and it flies.. new lease on life. If Google think I am buying a new tablet every 2 years, Stop the train, we have arrived at looney (google) central!!!!. Long live the custom rom(ers)

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No a very smart move by Google, me thinks, in not supporting Xoom after 4.1.2 ( Bless the custom mod gurus!!!). I know in my case I am going Windows Surface. Heres why, I just updated my 6 year old notebook to W8, and it flies.. new lease on life. If Google think I am buying a new tablet every 2 years, Stop the train, we have arrived at looney (google) central!!!!. Long live the custom rom(ers)
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The thing is, 2 years is actually...kind of a lot relative to the other first gen 10" tablets. The galaxy tab 10.1 took forever to get ICS and was put at EOL after that (back in June/July I think). Asus has handled the Transformer series pretty well; the OG Transformer received a timely ICS update and I believe was updated to 4.1, not sure if they're going past that. And finally the Acer A500 I think met a similar fate as the Galaxy tab, ending with 4.0.
So that puts the Xoom at one of 2 of the 4 Honeycomb tablets circa 2011 (were there any other notables?) that made it all the way to 4.1. Not too shabby.

Not shabby at all. A shame though that the reason for not supporting is a time limit instead of a hardware thing.
Phones changed a lot since nexus one to ICS
Not much changed hardware wise since Xoom and now IMO
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As I type, somebody is building 4.2 for the G1. Look, we can take anything aosp throws at us and make it work on Xoom, to one degree or another. It becomes a matter of performance. At some point, a previous aosp build will just be better for Xoom than the newest build.

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As I type, somebody is building 4.2 for the G1. Look, we can take anything aosp throws at us and make it work on Xoom, to one degree or another. It becomes a matter of performance. At some point, a previous aosp build will just be better for Xoom than the newest build.
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So does this meanTeam Eos is finished with rom support for the Xoom?

Just found in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1997434 that the system partition on the Xoom is rather small-could this be the reason that Xoom fell from AOSP support and didn't get all of the JB features?
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Muffycheeks said:
So does this meanTeam Eos is finished with rom support for the Xoom?
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