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My HTC experiences have been nothing but superb

I'm not usually one to start a thread regarding customer service, but after my latest HTC encounter I felt it only fair.
Several months ago I managed to brick my Nexus One while flashing ROMs and themes. I called and was told I could either send it in for repair, or have a refurbished unit sent to me. I chose to have my device fixed since it is in mint condition, except for being bricked. They sent me a prepaid overnight shipping label and they had it for one week. They then shipped it UPS overnight and I had it back working perfect. Now, it was only rooted via one click root with the bootloader still locked and CM6 installed. It came back running the latest version of froyo and I simply re-rooted using one click root.
Me next experience was just this week. I ordered the car dock and it was shipped USPS and took four days to arrive. When I put my Nexus in the dock: nothing. Would not charge, pair, etc..nothing. I called and told them of the issue and they sent me a prepaid UPS overnight shipping label. I shipped it back and within 24 hours received notice that it had arrived at HTC, and a new dock was shipping. This time it was shipped UPS overnight! I received the new dock the next day and it is working perfectly.
The best part about HTC, IMO, is that a human answers the phone almost immediately. You have to listen to options for where your call should be directed, but a human always answers after that. It's always a friendly person who I can understand perfectly. I know others have had major issues with HTC customer service so I thought I should post regarding my good experiences just in fairness. I don't doubt others are having very real issues, I just wanted to post my good experiences. The one thing I will say is that I am ALWAYS extra nice so as to make sure the CSR doesn't get mad and bury my order or something.
The great build quality of the Nexus One and my customer service experiences is why I desperately want HTC to make any Nexus Two.

I've had nothing but great experiences with HTC too. I've had a problem where the last two swaps they sent me weren't able to properly make calls. I usually would be FURIOUS with this turn of events but HTC is so pleasent on the phone I couldn't be mad if I tried

ap3604 said:
I've had nothing but great experiences with HTC too. I've had a problem where the last two swaps they sent me weren't able to properly make calls. I usually would be FURIOUS with this turn of events but HTC is so pleasent on the phone I couldn't be mad if I tried
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Same with me...I was so pissed the damn dock wouldn't work I was ready to punch someone. However, when a rep answered the phone she was so nice I just couldn't be mad anymore.

Wow that's awesome. I am glad to hear that you guys are so happy with them. I'm gonna buy the docks tomorrow
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

That's very good repair turn around! HTC ppc's have always rocked for me.

Sorry to hijack the thread a bit, but you said that you didn't unlock the bootloader.
What is HTC like for people who DID unlock the bootloader, and experience an issue that is patently nothing to do with using a custom ROM?
(I can see why HTC might deny a warranty repair if you've burnt out your flash with the high-brightness mode in some apps, but I mean failures that can't be attributed to user stupidity + custom ROM)

I unlocked my bootloader. My trackball started to not scroll down and nothing I tried would work. I called them and they sent me a replacement withhin days but its screen was kinda screwey and dark so I had them send me another replacement and it was two days later I had another one. I sent both defective phones back and never heard anything again. It is my opinion that they don't care about the bootloader if it is obviously hardware related.

My experiences with HTC have also been good! They swifty replaced my nexus with a broken power button.
They even through in a new battery, new battery cover, and new headphones!
Nice people.

Thanks for sharing. IMO, a little too much complaining about HTC was going on lately. I always felt that HTC is an awesome company that makes high quality phones and I'm always glad when they post high profits. Especially when they are sticking it to Apple, who's always been a sneaky villain in my world.

DarkDvr said:
I always felt that HTC is an awesome company that makes high quality phone
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It's funny you mention "high quality phones". My best friend is on USCellular and uses a BB Pearl. I've been bugging him about going Android for months and with the release of the Mesmerize, he decided it was time. Well guess what? He HATES the build quality of the Samsung and was drawn to the HTC Desire(which is almost a twin of the Nexus One except the Desire has a few hard keys). I explained the differences in software but it looks like he is going to go with the Desire based on the build quality! It was really hard to argue with his decision. The Mesmerize felt like a cheap piece of crap. He's not a gadget guy like me so he'll never miss the difference in software, etc... HTC makes some seriously sexy devices.

tpsych said:
From what I have read, they have only been talking about undergraduate subsidized loans. As stated above, I haven't seen anything about graduate loans.
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... Great all the nation needs is more business and communication degrees out there.
Guess I jumped the gun there
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after playing around with the galaxy nexus for a while i had to trade it back in for a sensation since the nexus felt like cheap plastic in my hand compared to the sensation i wish google will stop samsung from creating the nexus devices and give it back to HTC

Where?
Sorry, didnt check the date of OP.

Nexus S Win, Moto Atrix Fail;)

I would say about 80 percent of Atrix users I have spoke to are unhappy with there purchase. With mumblings of shoddy software and no real time speed increases, its fair to assume this device is a bit of a fail. Just go over to the marketplace and see the large second hand market for Atrix's, after just one month on sale.
So glad I have my Nexus S
The Atrix I fear is one of the nails in motorola's coffin.
Google rules
JD
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lol.. any chance you read the benchmark comparisons between LG Optimus 2X vs. Atrix? not that benchmarks mean anything but it was interesting to see the difference between those two phones.
Next up versus the Nexus S. T-Mobile G2x, it actually seems like a good competitor on paper. Since its reportedly supposed to be running on stock Android. But I'll most likely wait until a quad-core Nexus phone comes out since Quad cores are rumored to be done by later this year.

These devices I feel are making a bad name for android. People who got the atrix as their first android phone, would probably think that android is laggy even with dual core processor. I wish Google would have went the 'apple route' and control both hardware and software instead of letting these manufacturers put crap on android.

zephiK said:
lol.. any chance you read the benchmark comparisons between LG Optimus 2X vs. Atrix? not that benchmarks mean anything but it was interesting to see the difference between those two phones.
Next up versus the Nexus S. T-Mobile G2x, it actually seems like a good competitor on paper. Since its reportedly supposed to be running on stock Android. But I'll most likely wait until a quad-core Nexus phone comes out since Quad cores are rumored to be done by later this year.
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Quad core hummingbird and snapdragon's would be class, but as with everything we will have to wait for the software to catch up with the hardware
Motorola really make some crap phones though, and the crapness emanates from Motoblur, it basically makes apps incompatible,
What a great skin Full marks Moto
JD
Sent from my Google Nexus Magic Wand S

Agree with Mokurex anyone use this device will hate Android
I think Google should force phones manufactures to install a stock
Android over there phones (controlled by Google).
Then they could put there software in the market
and make it connected with the phone serial number.
That will make all phones up to date also will give the consumer
the right to chose wither to install these apps or not
I tried many Android phones from HTC, MOTO and SAMSUNG
I found Nexus S the fastest, cleanest and most beautiful phone

abo.saud said:
Agree with Mokurex anyone use this device will hate Android
I think Google should force phones manufactures to install a stock
Android over there phones (controlled by Google).
Then they could put there software in the market
and make it connected with the phone serial number.
That will make all phones up to date also will give the consumer
the right to chose wither to install these apps or not
I tried many Android phones from HTC, MOTO and SAMSUNG
I found Nexus S the fastest, cleanest and most beautiful phone
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Android is Open Source, they couldn't reinforce those ideas if they wanted to because Android from the very beginning was established to be opened to any company.
And honestly, too many of you are thinking as a enthusiastic user. Why exactly do you think these manufacturers don't care so much about upgrading their phones to the latest Android version? The average user is the large % of their sales. The average user doesn't look at Android the way we do. They don't even know about Froyo or Gingerbread. They just use a phone as a phone.
Nexus S is definitely a great device. And I'm not looking back. From this point onward (since Nexus S), I decided that I'm only getting Nexus based devices. Anything other than that, I'm not interested.

I happen to have an Atrix and Nexus S in front of me right now... been testing them together for a few days. The Nexus S has been my main daily driver and the Atrix just accompanies to see how well it stacks up. Bottom line... the Atrix is going back, nexus S staying for a while longer for now.
It's just another classical case of good hardware, horrible software implementation, similar to how Nokia was going with S60. Nothing is optimized for the dual core, the Nexus S is faster at almost every task, even flash playback in the browser which is surprising, because the hummingbird chipsets are known to suck at browsing compared to snapdragons. Also, the Atrix has a terrible case of color banding... if you thought the SAMOLEDs were bad, the Atrix just doesn't use its 24bit panel at all. Again, poor software. The camera is much better, and the battery is significantly better, but all the software and bloatware just takes away from the experience so much.
If you have anything you guys want me to compare between the two let me know before I return it =)

zephiK said:
Android is Open Source, they couldn't reinforce those ideas if they wanted to because Android from the very beginning was established to be opened to any company.
And honestly, too many of you are thinking as a enthusiastic user. Why exactly do you think these manufacturers don't care so much about upgrading their phones to the latest Android version? The average user is the large % of their sales. The average user doesn't look at Android the way we do. They don't even know about Froyo or Gingerbread. They just use a phone as a phone.
Nexus S is definitely a great device. And I'm not looking back. From this point onward (since Nexus S), I decided that I'm only getting Nexus based devices. Anything other than that, I'm not interested.
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Only Google phone's for me too from now on. And I don't think I could consider another HTC phone without AMOLED as minimum screen spec... This is why samsung have a hold of the market, the screens are fantastic
JD
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JupiterDroid said:
Only Google phone's for me too from now on. And I don't think I could consider another HTC phone without AMOLED as minimum screen spec... This is why samsung have a hold of the market, the screens are fantastic
JD
Sent from my Google Nexus Magic Wand S
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correction: Super AMOLED i wonder what Super AMOLED Plus looks like, but yeah i totally agree about Samsung. I don't get whats the hatred towards Samsung, they have no control over the Nexus S.
Sure, people criticize about the plastic back. I wish it was aluminium myself, but believe me. This phone is not CHEAPLY made at all, it's solidly constructed.
There's no such thing as a perfect phone. But the Nexus S is pretty damn close to perfect. If it had 720p and SD card, it'd be perfect without question. 4G on top of that, it's a dream phone. But I don't really care about 4G

I have Q could Nexus s get 720p thru a future update?

abo.saud said:
I have Q could Nexus s get 720p thru a future update?
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No its a hardware limitation. It could get hacked by CyanogenMod team and 720p could be added but it wouldn't be "true" 720p if you know what I mean.

Motorola sux
Sent from my Nexus S

Torn between these two phones, was going to pick up an Atrix the other day but then found out Nexus S is coming to all Canadian carriers according to Samsung.
Love the Nexus but really hate the fact it's only 16GB with no SD card. If it was 32GB I could handle it. Missing 720p sucks too.
How likely is it that Motorola would either fix Motoblur or ditch it when they release the Atrix Gingerbread update this year? or at least unlock the bootloader so you can run a stock version of Gingerbread if you choose?
If I was confident that I could run stock versions of Android on the Atrix, my decision would be easy.

darklord74 said:
How likely is it that Motorola would either fix Motoblur or ditch it when they release the Atrix Gingerbread update this year? or at least unlock the bootloader so you can run a stock version of Gingerbread if you choose?
If I was confident that I could run stock versions of Android on the Atrix, my decision would be easy.
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Well that's pretty easy to answer. The probability of that happening is zero. Motorola locks the bootloader on all their phones and it's up to people here to hack it. It only really slows them down, but still it's annoying. Also, gingerbread will be a while away I'm guessing, let alone Ice Cream.
Just look at the entire history of Motorola android phones and see which ones actually have an AOSP ROM out (cyanogen)... the answer is only one, the original Droid/Milestone from 2009. If you want customization, HTC and Samsung phones seem to get more ROMs. You may think that Motorola doesn't want custom ROMs because they polish their blur UI but it's quite the opposite with my Atrix experience. Everything, I mean virtually EVERYTHING is half-assed on the phone. Terrible color banding, random reboots, tons and tons of bloatware that conflict with each other and drain the battery (which is why you see battery complaints despite having a 1930mah battery).

thanks, making my decision easier. I'm a noob to android, switching over from my piece of crap iphone (jailbroken, themed, etc) so I'm hoping to learn from anybody's experience with these phones.
The nexus will probably make me happier, but I love the hardware profile of the Atrix. Damn I just want an Atrix running a clean version of Gingerbread.

Don't get me wrong, the Atrix is still a great phone. If you're stuck between an iPhone, Atrix, or Nexus S, no matter what you'll end up with a powerful phone. I have no doubt the Atrix will be a smooth machine in the hands of an experienced Android user who knows what apps to freeze, etc., but there are some things that just can't be fixed until Motorola decides to fix them for us such as the color banding, capped upload speeds, multitouch bugs, etc. Yea it has a Tegra 2, but the GPU is actually not even better than the Nexus S/Galaxy S GPU. I've played a bunch of Tegra games and they don't look any better than games that are on the iPhone (which has a slower GPU than the Nexus S). Sure, Tegra zone will help the gaming market pick up for android by enforcing a standard, but it's still a crappy standard for coming out a year later.
darklord74 said:
thanks, making my decision easier. I'm a noob to android, switching over from my piece of crap iphone (jailbroken, themed, etc) so I'm hoping to learn from anybody's experience with these phones.
The nexus will probably make me happier, but I love the hardware profile of the Atrix. Damn I just want an Atrix running a clean version of Gingerbread.
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JupiterDroid said:
I would say about 80 percent of Atrix users I have spoke to are unhappy with there purchase. With mumblings of shoddy software and no real time speed increases, its fair to assume this device is a bit of a fail. Just go over to the marketplace and see the large second hand market for Atrix's, after just one month on sale.
So glad I have my Nexus S
The Atrix I fear is one of the nails in motorola's coffin.
Google rules
JD
Sent from my Google Nexus Magic Wand S
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i actually posted my Nexus Vs Atrix on the Atrix forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992512
over all. the new problems with atrix makes it abit of fail device now in my eyes
- Locked bootloader. and it doesnt seem its going to be unlocked anytime soon. even the new HTC is locked. i believe from now on all the phones will be locked. which makes the Nexus Line is the only available option for the people like us who like to tweak his phone. whatever optimus 2x or galaxy S2 or Evo 3d will be unlocked is different story. but for now. the best safe bet go with Nexus line.
- only 2 fingers for multi touch + it stops working after you holding it for 12 seconds. like say you are playing racing games, and you are pressing the screen to throttle, while the other finger to move your car, after 12 seconds both touches will stop responding and the screen will act fuzzy for like 4 to 5 seconds before it gets its act together. whatever that is hardware problem or software problem. its a total fail for gaming on that device no matter how powerful its.
and even if its a software issue, knowing motorolla. atrix owners will be glad if they get it fixed by the end of the year. + locked bootloader so devs to try and fix it them selves is out of the window. makes the atrix a complete fail in my eyes.
- the screen is ****. i am sorry but if i can see pixels on both screens. why would i go with less colors ? sure the pixels density are more in atrix. but i still see the pixels. and the colors are not nice as SA. why would i go back step ?
honestly. between atrix and Nexus S. the Nexus S wins hands down. and this coming from an iphone owner who used atrix for couple of days and use the nexus S almost every day since its with my young brother
but i dont agree that this is a nail in the coffin for motorolla. this company is so huge to be effected by couple of flips of phones. and even then. the moto sold very well. the hype alone sold the phone. sure many didnt like it. but for moto, they sold good enough so thats not a flop for them.

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
i actually posted my Nexus Vs Atrix on the Atrix forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992512
over all. the new problems with atrix makes it abit of fail device now in my eyes
- Locked bootloader. and it doesnt seem its going to be unlocked anytime soon. even the new HTC is locked. i believe from now on all the phones will be locked. which makes the Nexus Line is the only available option for the people like us who like to tweak his phone. whatever optimus 2x or galaxy S2 or Evo 3d will be unlocked is different story. but for now. the best safe bet go with Nexus line.
- only 2 fingers for multi touch + it stops working after you holding it for 12 seconds. like say you are playing racing games, and you are pressing the screen to throttle, while the other finger to move your car, after 12 seconds both touches will stop responding and the screen will act fuzzy for like 4 to 5 seconds before it gets its act together. whatever that is hardware problem or software problem. its a total fail for gaming on that device no matter how powerful its.
and even if its a software issue, knowing motorolla. atrix owners will be glad if they get it fixed by the end of the year. + locked bootloader so devs to try and fix it them selves is out of the window. makes the atrix a complete fail in my eyes.
- the screen is ****. i am sorry but if i can see pixels on both screens. why would i go with less colors ? sure the pixels density are more in atrix. but i still see the pixels. and the colors are not nice as SA. why would i go back step ?
honestly. between atrix and Nexus S. the Nexus S wins hands down. and this coming from an iphone owner who used atrix for couple of days and use the nexus S almost every day since its with my young brother
but i dont agree that this is a nail in the coffin for motorolla. this company is so huge to be effected by couple of flips of phones. and even then. the moto sold very well. the hype alone sold the phone. sure many didnt like it. but for moto, they sold good enough so thats not a flop for them.
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I fear these locked bootloaders have been brought in after what happened with the g2 and HD line. So many people bricked their phones using the early complicated method to root and get Eng S-off. I know for a fact T-Mobile USA replaced every handset without questioning or checking for the actual cause. I think when these phones eventually got back to HTC they saw there was only one future option, leave all phones unlocked, or lock down the phones completely. They seem to have chosen the second route. I personally would not buy a phone I could not root as this was the main reason for me to ditch the iphone. I'm a firm believer that if you purchase a phone you should be able to do what the hell you like with it. I would pefer that all phones come with an oem bootloader unlock but If activated generates a limited warranty to just hardware faults. I think OEM's just need to use some common sense when replacing handsets, people that brick their phones through lack of knowledge or stupidity should face the consequences.
JD
Sent from my Google Nexus Magic Wand S

JupiterDroid said:
I fear these locked bootloaders have been brought in after what happened with the g2 and HD line. So many people bricked their phones using the early complicated method to root and get Eng S-off. I know for a fact T-Mobile USA replaced every handset without questioning or checking for the actual cause. I think when these phones eventually got back to HTC they saw there was only one future option, leave all phones unlocked, or lock down the phones completely. They seem to have chosen the second route. I personally would not buy a phone I could not root as this was the main reason for me to ditch the iphone. I'm a firm believer that if you purchase a phone you should be able to do what the hell you like with it. I would pefer that all phones come with an oem bootloader unlock but If activated generates a limited warranty to just hardware faults. I think OEM's just need to use some common sense when replacing handsets, people that brick their phones through lack of knowledge or stupidity should face the consequences.
JD
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actually, there is a more " easy " reason why they decided to lock it down.
they really dont want people to keep their phone. they want people to change at least once a year. which is why they are offering more than 1 device per year.
if you have unlocked bootloader. then you will update your software without needing HTC or Samsung or any other company for that matters. and it will prevent a possible future sale of their new offering. its a business move.
which is why i like apple in this regard. 1 phone per year. smart move. keep the customers loyal to you. dont screw them up by releasing a newer better device than yours every 3 months or 4.
there is a reason why apple is leading. too bad all other companies are that stupid :/
as for the andriod, i think from now on all companies will use a locked bootloader. locked karnel. the only way to go is the nexus line i assume if you are looking for open Dev mobile. and i highly doubt Samsung or LG will let their new high end phones like optimus 2x, optimus 3G or galaxy S2 to be without a signed bootloader.

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
i actually posted my Nexus Vs Atrix on the Atrix forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992512
over all. the new problems with atrix makes it abit of fail device now in my eyes
- Locked bootloader. and it doesnt seem its going to be unlocked anytime soon. even the new HTC is locked. i believe from now on all the phones will be locked. which makes the Nexus Line is the only available option for the people like us who like to tweak his phone. whatever optimus 2x or galaxy S2 or Evo 3d will be unlocked is different story. but for now. the best safe bet go with Nexus line.
- only 2 fingers for multi touch + it stops working after you holding it for 12 seconds. like say you are playing racing games, and you are pressing the screen to throttle, while the other finger to move your car, after 12 seconds both touches will stop responding and the screen will act fuzzy for like 4 to 5 seconds before it gets its act together. whatever that is hardware problem or software problem. its a total fail for gaming on that device no matter how powerful its.
and even if its a software issue, knowing motorolla. atrix owners will be glad if they get it fixed by the end of the year. + locked bootloader so devs to try and fix it them selves is out of the window. makes the atrix a complete fail in my eyes.
- the screen is ****. i am sorry but if i can see pixels on both screens. why would i go with less colors ? sure the pixels density are more in atrix. but i still see the pixels. and the colors are not nice as SA. why would i go back step ?
honestly. between atrix and Nexus S. the Nexus S wins hands down. and this coming from an iphone owner who used atrix for couple of days and use the nexus S almost every day since its with my young brother
but i dont agree that this is a nail in the coffin for motorolla. this company is so huge to be effected by couple of flips of phones. and even then. the moto sold very well. the hype alone sold the phone. sure many didnt like it. but for moto, they sold good enough so thats not a flop for them.
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I picked up an unlocked Atrix from Bell Canada (while I was there skiing) last week and put a long side my Nexus S, I actually prefer the Atrix - and I'll explain why.
I'm not one who cares about unlocking bootloaders. Not everyone wants to mod their phones. My Nexus S is still locked. BTW, the Atrix bootloader has been cracked (http://www.androidcentral.com/has-motorolas-bootloader-encryption-been-cracked) but you already knew that didnt you??
The Atrix is running Android 2.2 which accounts for a little lag and reduced dual core speed. Once it gets the latest version of Gingerbread - which has full multi CPU support, the phone will be a whole lot different. Having dual cores in the long run will at least keep the Atrix up there with the best for at least 6-7 months, as opposed to the Nexus S which is technically already outdated and old tech (actually it was already old tech 1-2 months prior to its release lol).
I actually like the screen on the Atrix and I rate it better than the Nexus S SAMOLED - especially outside. Sure the SAMOLED has deep blacks and rich colours, but I still cant see the ****er in direct sunlight. For me, this is a complete fail.
The finger print scanner is unique and reliable. Its good to know that my phone is locked down, especially if it is stolen or I loose it.
The build quality on mine is superb. I can't fault it to be honest.
The Atrix has gorilla glass (thank God), as opposed to a rubbish glass screen with a pathetic oleophobic coating that rubs off after 2 weeks of use (I'm on my 3rd Nexus S because of this **** BTW - and the screen scratches so easily even when its in my empty jeans pocket..... )
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The only advantages of having the Nexus S is that it will get the latest Android updates and you unlock the bootloader to flash what ever rom/kernel (whatever) you want...
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I'm not here to bash the Nexus S, just sharing my opinions. I just wish Google stuck with HTC for the Nexus S, rather than going cheap with Samsung. HTC make a far better quality handset for sure. The plasticky build of the Nexus S is a real let down.
I also think Motorola has turned over a new leaf with the Atrix. They've gone in all guns blazing with a laptop dock and loads of accessories like HDMI desktop docks, etc as well. I do not think they intend to let this handset die off into the sunset without software updates. If they did this with the Atrix, they will kill themselves just like Sony Ericsson did with the X10 line. I will never ever ever ever never ever touch another Sony Ericsson handset for the rest of my life.

Whats next....?

Hi, guys. Since arco's post whether there will be CM9 or not, which will be Android 4.0 in all its glare, for our precious and beloved device ive started to think about upgrading my phone to something more, let me say, powerful. To be honest this phone gave its best in a sense of a development and using new stuff which hits every day. We saw some pretty much good stuff on a little fire which none of us expected when first came here. There are at first Cyanogenmod,first 6 and now 7 which led us though great Gingerbread experience till its latest version 2.3.7. In one word CM was the beginner of everything that was happening around here in pas year and little more, than we saw some nice themes and they juiced up our phone a little more to our taste. Than there is better camera recording, overclocking. I should at first say root, but never mind, than came AlpharevX with its s-off. Well, not to make it long, there were a lot of nice moments. And as for me ive learned a lot, so thank to everyone who helped me in any way.
But like any other device out there and this one will come to an end of its development era. So, the question is it time for retirement? What would be your next ride? Im thinking about Sensation or EVO 3D, that is if i collect enough money Anyway, ill still be here for some time. Please, share your thoughts...
Best regards, zexcrazy

I am done with HTC, so it will definitely not be one of their devices. (Quality issues abound - Sensation touch problems, Wildfire battery problems, my friend's Desire's display gave up when he didn't do an iota of modification on it, during the first 6 months, and, not to say, the entire locked bootloaders and the leaked info security hole fiasco). Not to mention, their devices are WAY overpriced for what they offer. Even today, in India, the ZTE Blade costs 25% less than the Wildfire! The Incredible S costs the same as an LG Optimus 2X!!
It's only a feel good in your hands with their devices. I agree that Samsung devices don't exude this. My Wildfire feels better in the hand than a mate's SGS1, but still, if it's innards and quality don't match it, the "premium feel" is worthless.
/End rant on HTC
While I loved the new SG Nexus, As far as my opinion goes, the GPU is not worth on it on that device. Using a PowerSGX 540 on a flagship is simply not worth it, and that is when it has a LOT more pixels to push, compared to a WVGA resolution screen, so, my unrealistic dream still remains the SGS2, which, I sincerely hope undergoes a bit of a price cut when the SGN launches.
On to the realistic devices, as I have said time and again, I am impressed with the SE Xperia 2011 lineup. They are simply unbeatable for what they offer. (Again - the Wildfire S is COSTLIER than the SE Xperia Mini which has the latest SnapDragon 1GHz CPU in it), and, with CM supporting the devices, and SE themselves saying that the 2011 lineup WILL get ICS 4.0, my next device is probably going to be one of theirs.

3xeno said:
I am done with HTC, so it will definitely not be one of their devices. (Quality issues abound - Sensation touch problems, Wildfire battery problems, my friend's Desire's display gave up when he didn't do an iota of modification on it, during the first 6 months, and, not to say, the entire locked bootloaders and the leaked info security hole fiasco). Not to mention, their devices are WAY overpriced for what they offer. Even today, in India, the ZTE Blade costs 25% less than the Wildfire! The Incredible S costs the same as an LG Optimus 2X!!
It's only a feel good in your hands with their devices. I agree that Samsung devices don't exude this. My Wildfire feels better in the hand than a mate's SGS1, but still, if it's innards and quality don't match it, the "premium feel" is worthless.
/End rant on HTC
While I loved the new SG Nexus, As far as my opinion goes, the GPU is not worth on it on that device. Using a PowerSGX 540 on a flagship is simply not worth it, and that is when it has a LOT more pixels to push, compared to a WVGA resolution screen, so, my unrealistic dream still remains the SGS2, which, I sincerely hope undergoes a bit of a price cut when the SGN launches.
On to the realistic devices, as I have said time and again, I am impressed with the SE Xperia 2011 lineup. They are simply unbeatable for what they offer. (Again - the Wildfire S is COSTLIER than the SE Xperia Mini which has the latest SnapDragon 1GHz CPU in it), and, with CM supporting the devices, and SE themselves saying that the 2011 lineup WILL get ICS 4.0, my next device is probably going to be one of theirs.
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You are right about everything you said, but Wildfire is my first andrid device and im somehow sentimentally bounded to HTC, but well you never know where the road can take me. I though about SGS, as a cheaper solution (price is a important asspet in my case, for now). One thing is sure im not going to take LG as i had few bad experiences with them in past.
And you are right about SGN, they made few poor moves with graphic chip and 5mp camera, but i recon Samsung is saving its strenght for SGS III.

I get what you are saying, and, even I would definitely like my next device to be an HTC (More so, because companies like Samsung and LG, they are essentially consumer goods entities - the air conditioners at my college are by Samsung, the refrigerator at my place is by LG, and so on, and, this fact is what comes first to mind when you say companies like Samsung and LG, but, HTC is just that - a 'specialist' smartphone manufacturer), but, I am somehow forcing myself to see beyond their brand value and look at better alternatives for the same price. (As you put - Price comes first)

I will definetly stay with the Wildfire for a couple of months more. Now i have the new stable Version and everything runs smooth and fast. I don't need faster devices, i like it how it is right now. Maybe i will buy some new in the future if there is enough money, but i havent thought about it yet.

There will be CM9 for the Wildfire.
I'm an optimist.
If not... I will probably buy the G2X or Sensation. G2X more likely for the price. Or a Nexus S? Who knows, I'll discuss that with my wallet.
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I get my up grade December. So I was thinking sensation or gs2 but not sure witch 1 to go for been looking at both now for the last month
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My contract ends in 2 years, hopefully optus lets me upgrade before then lol (or else I'll threaten them :L), I have no idea what phones will be out by then but I think I'll stick with samsung, there phones are so much fun lol, or maybe htc if they release anything good
If I still had my wildfire I prob would've upgraded to the sgs2.
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My bro is upgrading his phone soon to sgs2, think ill take over his sgi9000 for cheap or even free if you read this, brotherly love. lol I'll give it the life it should be having flash flash and more flashing.......
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I have my eyes on a few phones atm. Can't afford any high-end phones, so are looking for something in the mid-range. First idea was to maybe get a Wildfire S, since it should be pretty easy to do developing on. But seeing as the bootloader is still locked and you can get a much more powerful phone for just a little bit more money, I'm looking at some other options. 3 phones are currently on my list.
LG P970 Optimus Black
Huawei Vision U8850
Samsung I8150 Galaxy W
Of these, I'm leaning most towards the Samsung right now.

I agree the Wildfire and its successor are great My First Androids, but my next phone will likely be a Samsung too even if that would mean it's the same brand as my microwave oven. However, at the moment I'd rather buy a Motorola Xoom and "degrade" my Wildfire to "just a phone" for the time being. Xoom + extra battery for Wildfire (gotta keep that access point running) is cheaper then buying the Galaxy Nexus plus when an ICS phone hits the stores I can still extend my current plan for 2 years to get it.

arco68 said:
I have my eyes on a few phones atm. Can't afford any high-end phones, so are looking for something in the mid-range. First idea was to maybe get a Wildfire S, since it should be pretty easy to do developing on. But seeing as the bootloader is still locked and you can get a much more powerful phone for just a little bit more money, I'm looking at some other options. 3 phones are currently on my list.
LG P970 Optimus Black
Huawei Vision U8850
Samsung I8150 Galaxy W
Of these, I'm leaning most towards the Samsung right now.
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Please stick with the Wildfire, there has to be a way to port effin ICS.
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Not likely. ICS requires at least a dual-core ARMv7 CPU. You could get away with a single-core ARMv7 but a single-core ARMv6 is stretching it quite a bit I'm afraid.

Galaxy W is pretty decent upgrade and as for me it much more reachable than some of the flagship devices i am dreaming of.
Ill stick to a Wildfire for some time, but the day will come sooner or later.
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Not likely. ICS requires at least a dual-core ARMv7 CPU. You could get away with a single-core ARMv7 but a single-core ARMv6 is stretching it quite a bit I'm afraid.
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I wouldnt agree. They said that ics will be able to run on any device whic was able to run Gingerbread. So if we take official gingerbred suported phones there is Wildfire S which has 600Mhz processor. So its not true that it requires dual core.
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I reckon the wildfire has about 6 to 12 months more left in it. Oath it has been where no one thought it would go. First got the official support from HTC (finally!). Everyone really wanted it and foolishly upgraded changing the bootloader/hboot. That is where I went, I foolishly upgraded then met xda. Seeing so many things happen and I really wanted a custom rom. It started with the urge of really wanting live wallpapers then it grew from there. Waiting for a software s-off, I stood optimistic that one was "coming" even though so many said it wouldn't happen and that the only way would be to use the hardware tool XTC clip. Waiting for so long I managed to get my hands on AlphaRevX. My phone being a locked phone on telstra it was loaded with the custom carrier hboot 02 instead of 01. Alpharev refused to work on these custom hboots so I stood on freenode until a dev came online and managed to hack up a telstra s-off hboot for me to test. I managed to get my s-off with it but by then alpharev team dropped support of hboot 02 because they would have to hack every hboot for different carriers. I soon began to flash roms and read up on all the nice roms. I tried CM7 but hated it because of the interface, I managed to fall in love with the sense interface and couldn't get away from it. I found the sense 2.1 rom and waited for it to get more stable but it was discontinued so I took over. I built my knowledge and now I am working on the rom SenseOnFire. So thats my story. I think the wildfire isn't its time yet and there are so many fantastic devs around here that don't and won't give up on this device just yet. The CM team will be able to hack up something for this device I just know it. Just think before the wildfire got official froyo no one would of thought it would ever run gingerbread.

I`ll upgrade in about an year or so, but I won`t buy a phone with a screen larger than 3.5 inches. Maybe a 3.7 of the bezel is small enough. I don`t like ping-pong paddle type of phones.
500th post, yay

I like big screens. 4 inch would be ideal for me.
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Gingerbread will probably run on a T-Mobile G1. Google never said "any", they said "most". The Wildfire also lacks a GPU so ICS on a Wildfire wouldn't look the same as ICS on a Nexus either.
And I agree with Alex_GP, overly large form factors are a modern reminder of those old clunky phones from 2 decades ago. The Desire S seems nice in this regard, a little bit thinner and a little bit less wide but also just a bit taller to accommodate an HVGA(!) screen. But then it has that annoying capacitive search button which always fires at the wrong moment when held in a right hand. So I guess I'll wait for an updated version of the Samsung Galaxy Ace and hope it's not as slow/fast as an overclocked Wildfire.

I think I'm going for the HTC Sensation XE.
Since I got the Wildfire, I realized that pixels ARE important (atleast for me) so qHD will be perfect for me.
4,3 inch is also perfect. Not too big, or too small. (my bro has desire HD so I kind of know how big it is).
The XE is just a beautiful beast
And luckily HTC said that it'll get ICS.
I'm not sure when I'll upgrade, but I guess soon. Maybe next week or something..
Can't stand the ldpi thing and the slow performance..
But will keep my Wildfire as a backup device.
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Poor old HTC

So in light of the following news are HTC going to bring out something special or just quietly dye by the way side?
http://www.androidguys.com/2012/07/30/htc-closes-south-korea-office-due-to-slow-sales-samsung-hurting-profits/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+androidguyscom+%28AndroidGuys%29&utm_content=Google+Reader
Bear in mind the current fiasco with ICS and the Desire HD.
So are you going to jump the HTC ship?

Ya well, the one series was a miss with consumers at large ,can't imagine what would have happened if the one x for example had sd card storage and a battery access

We can only hope they die a quick but painful death.
... unless they release ics source code then i don't care what they do.
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I am already planning my jump over to Samsung rightly or wrongly, but they are talking about launching JB on the S3 and even the S2 in the very near future! And from what I have seen they seem to deliver what they say!

Well I wouldn't want them to die, afterall competition is always good, however I've decided that my DHD shall be my last HTC phone after all that has happened. I'm contemplating on waiting for the next Google phone, immediate updates and a bugless AOSP experience, what else could one ask for?

That is what you get when you mess with all the HTC Desire HD owners!!! Not releasing ICS for their most sold phone and telling their costumers lies about HTC Desire HD performance. And the same with HTC Desire.
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Ya well, the one series was a miss with consumers at large ,can't imagine what would have happened if the one x for example had sd card storage and a battery access
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Agreed, I cant believe they would release such a retarded phone and a clear attempt to copy the iPhone business model.
I'm due upgrade now but think ill just stick with my DHD.
They should have concentrated all efforts on savage battery life combined with expansion of mem.

That is the general consensus I am feeling form this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396842
It’s a shame that a company with a lot of promise has now just peed of its fan base and almost washed their hand of them.
If you look at the number of ROMs in the development thread you can see that people pretty much rooted their HTC Desire HD as soon as they got them as the hardware far out preformed the software that was loaded and any potential update (although we all knew these wouldn’t come to light! lol )

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That is the general consensus I am feeling form this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396842
It’s a shame that a company with a lot of promise has now just peed of its fan base and almost washed their hand of them.
If you look at the number of ROMs in the development thread you can see that people pretty much rooted their HTC Desire HD as soon as they got them as the hardware far out preformed the software that was loaded and any potential update (although we all knew these wouldn’t come to light! lol )
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Don't forget Samsung is from South Korea, so why keep spending money on SK if you know that "everyone" in SK has a Samsung phone :silly:
I hope they won't cancel the ICS update for developers. They had the same problem with Gingerbread update for the Desire.
They never released it as an OTA update, but they released it for developers.
So let's hope they do the same with Desire HD (in the future).
About One-series. It's indeed a sad story, but I think why most people didn't bought the One-phones was because most of them were probably waiting to see the Galaxy SIII and it seems that the SIII is the number one choice now for lots of Android users.

That or the New Galaxy Nexus (fingers crossed it won’t be produced by HTC) that will ruin the Nexus name IMO

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That or the New Galaxy Nexus (fingers crossed it won’t be produced by HTC) that will ruin the Nexus name IMO
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Why would HTC ruin it? I like HTC's hardware

1 months ago I planned to buy the One X along with one of my best friends and I almost sell my DHD (it even already entered the "For Sale" thread in one of Indonesia's largest community forum). But after I read so much informations from early adopter of One X about how bad is the HTC's quality control over One X hardware productions I hold my decisions to upgrade because I don't wanna spend my time dealing with HTC service center.

ScarfaceMT said:
Well I wouldn't want them to die, afterall competition is always good, however I've decided that my DHD shall be my last HTC phone after all that has happened. I'm contemplating on waiting for the next Google phone, immediate updates and a bugless AOSP experience, what else could one ask for?
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i know some1 who has the one x , personaly i dont like it yes better screen but it looks to plasticy as for not having expandable memory that has def put me off , it was a realy silly move on htcs part but they seem to be doing a lot of those latley

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Tierd of htc, they were the best option when i bought my dhd. The new one series cant beat s3 imo. Im going for nexus next, nothing beats (not even s3) the new android stock interface.
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Help to convince me to buy the One

Like most people struggling to find their place between HTC One and Samsung S4, with a months of my contract left I am unsure which flagship phone to choose. I don't want this thread to be another debate about the two phone or companies, instead I prefer to know what people think about the future of the One. As a loyal HTC user, I started with HTC Desire and now still using HTC Sensation. For both phones it is a shame to see HTC not supporting their devices a few months after they released the phone.
I would agree with most people about the HTC phone quality, in fact that I have been telling others the same thing. There are a lot of things I like about Samsung S4, but there is nothing I can't live without. For me there are only 2 main problem with the One which I can't stand:
1. Removable battery
Battery life was never a problem for me before my Sensation. However after being with Sensation for 1 year and 8 month, my battery was failing apart, until one day I couldn't stand it any more and purchased a new battery. Then it was like having a new phone, this is something which can't be done with the One. I see why uni-body maybe attractive, but to me it is just another way of getting the customer to buy a new phone every 2 years. Because no matter how good the battery is, it WILL need replacing after 2 years of constant use. I could say fair enough to no expandable storage, but can't swap battery is really annoying for me. Since so many people are buying the One, I really want to know what you guys think. Is this not an issue for you? What would you do in a year time when your phone constant needs charging?
2. Official Updates
For both of my past HTC phones, I got to know what HTC is like as a company when it comes to updates. I feel I have more say about HTC sensation since I purchased it as soon as it was out and a few months later there were almost no support. For a phone with 1.2 Ghz (Can also be clocked at 1.5 Ghz) due-core CPU and 750mb RAM, it is more than capable of running windows XP Operating System, so I don't take the specification is not good enough for later version of Android as an excuse. I understand a company can only support a produce for so long, but 2 years is not a lot to ask especially when we have to pay a lot for the device. Do you guys think HTC will act differently on this phone? Because they have always been so slow at releasing updates I have now lost faith in them. I hope someone could convince me to buy the One. I really do love the phone.
Sorry about the rant, it is just that I love the design of the One. But the removable battery problem and lack of support from HTC is preventing me from making my mind up to choose the One over S4.
Thanks for reading through this long winded moaning and any advice is appreciated.

Grow some balls and make up your own mind
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Don't buy it, you don't want it.

I also didn't know which one to get from the two but I realized I didn't want the S4 because who really needs the air gestures and stuff. I've been using the S2 for Sprint for the past two years and I'm tired of TouchWiz. And since I'm currently running somewhat of a S3 ROM, I'm gonna be bored of the S4 because it is essentially the same thing but with added features which to me are useless. I want to go back to HTC because of their build quality and I like their phones overall (had the Aria on ATT). The One is just an overall better phone for me because the screen isn't 5 inches big and doesn't weight as much as a feather. As for the removable battery, that was also one thing that initially steered me away from the One but if the iPhone can last, why can't the One? There is probably a safe mode for when it freezes so no problem there. And HTC will probably give most of its attention to its One because its their flagship device. Nothing better is coming out this year and it will still be a high end phone next year
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For the battery issue I'd the phones battery degrades after 1 year and a bit. Contract HTC or your contract supplier and let them know. I'm sure HTC would replace it. For the updates the one x has been constantly getting updates and I think they will go back to the sensation hopefully but I think HTC are trying to turn things round with the HTC one. Try them both in a store then make up your own mind.
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lavafire said:
Like most people struggling to find their place between HTC One and Samsung S4, with a months of my contract left I am unsure which flagship phone to choose. I don't want this thread to be another debate about the two phone or companies, instead I prefer to know what people think about the future of the One. As a loyal HTC user, I started with HTC Desire and now still using HTC Sensation. For both phones it is a shame to see HTC not supporting their devices a few months after they released the phone.
I would agree with most people about the HTC phone quality, in fact that I have been telling others the same thing. There are a lot of things I like about Samsung S4, but there is nothing I can't live without. For me there are only 2 main problem with the One which I can't stand:
1. Removable battery
Battery life was never a problem for me before my Sensation. However after being with Sensation for 1 year and 8 month, my battery was failing apart, until one day I couldn't stand it any more and purchased a new battery. Then it was like having a new phone, this is something which can't be done with the One. I see why uni-body maybe attractive, but to me it is just another way of getting the customer to buy a new phone every 2 years. Because no matter how good the battery is, it WILL need replacing after 2 years of constant use. I could say fair enough to no expandable storage, but can't swap battery is really annoying for me. Since so many people are buying the One, I really want to know what you guys think. Is this not an issue for you? What would you do in a year time when your phone constant needs charging?
2. Official Updates
For both of my past HTC phones, I got to know what HTC is like as a company when it comes to updates. I feel I have more say about HTC sensation since I purchased it as soon as it was out and a few months later there were almost no support. For a phone with 1.2 Ghz (Can also be clocked at 1.5 Ghz) due-core CPU and 750mb RAM, it is more than capable of running windows XP Operating System, so I don't take the specification is not good enough for later version of Android as an excuse. I understand a company can only support a produce for so long, but 2 years is not a lot to ask especially when we have to pay a lot for the device. Do you guys think HTC will act differently on this phone? Because they have always been so slow at releasing updates I have now lost faith in them. I hope someone could convince me to buy the One. I really do love the phone.
Sorry about the rant, it is just that I love the design of the One. But the removable battery problem and lack of support from HTC is preventing me from making my mind up to choose the One over S4.
Thanks for reading through this long winded moaning and any advice is appreciated.
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reading your post you are in samsung side so dont start thread here, you are convinced already

no time for you dude , no time!
by the way i dint even read your post

1. how is removable battery a problem?? How many iphone owners have had problems with the enclosed battery and then all the other phones out there that have enclosed batteries.
It is actually better in some ways to have an enclosed battery because moisture and dust etc. can't get in as easily, you can't keep removing the battery thus you don't wear out the connectors
Also, the htc one uses a li-poly battery and therefore it shouldn't age over time like the li-lion batteries.
HTC have disabled the quick charge feature in attempt to stop the battery from wearing out after a certain time.
You want more juice/life, buy a power pack, charger that doesn't need a USB/wall socket
You encounter a problem in a year or so time, return the device in exchange for a new one or send it of to HTC for repair (don't know about where you live, but in the UK they are a heck of a lot better these days, very quick turn around time i.e. a few days)
2. updates, look at all the updates that the one X and S got and both will be getting 4.2.2 with sense V5 around June/July.
Samsung have more small updates as they have more problems with their software i.e. security problems
Many articles etc. that have shown HTC to be better in this area i.e.
http://readwrite.com/2011/01/14/data-shows-what-manufacturers-and-carriers-delay-android-updates
http://www.techhive.com/article/256...es_do_the_best_job_with_android_updates_.html
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/12/the-checkered-slow-history-of-android-handset-updates/
I do agree, it is a joke that the sensation didn't get the update but I imagine that the device wasn't very popular and HTC didn't see much point putting time/money into it as nearly every man and his dog went for the GS 2....
But HTC did provide the ICS update to the sensation before the GS 2, they also provided the GB update to the desire before the GS 1 (although not officially)
HTC so far seem to be keeping to their promise regarding not releasing loads of other devices ad if they keep to it then they only have the 1 device to maintain.....
Also you have you have to bare in mind that they moved much closer to stock android now, sense is mostly bloat free where as Samsung have moved further from the stock android UI and brought a load of bloat and extra features in (not to mention they will have two versions [exynos and snapdragon] to maintain) thus this time round they could be slower by a decent amount.

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reading your post you are in samsung side so dont start thread here, you are convinced already
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If I am convinced I won't be asking for advice, and if you want to spare your time I could list everything i don't like about the s4 as well.

Terminator19 said:
1. how is removable battery a problem?? How many iphone owners have had problems with the enclosed battery and then all the other phones out there that have enclosed batteries.
It is actually better in some ways to have an enclosed battery because moisture and dust etc. can't get in as easily, you can't keep removing the battery thus you don't wear out the connectors
Also, the htc one uses a li-poly battery and therefore it shouldn't age over time like the li-lion batteries.
HTC have disabled the quick charge feature in attempt to stop the battery from wearing out after a certain time.
You want more juice/life, buy a power pack, charger that doesn't need a USB/wall socket
You encounter a problem in a year or so time, return the device in exchange for a new one or send it of to HTC for repair (don't know about where you live, but in the UK they are a heck of a lot better these days, very quick turn around time i.e. a few days)
2. updates, look at all the updates that the one X and S got and both will be getting 4.2.2 with sense V5 around June/July.
Samsung have more small updates as they have more problems with their software i.e. security problems
Many articles etc. that have shown HTC to be better in this area i.e.
http://readwrite.com/2011/01/14/data-shows-what-manufacturers-and-carriers-delay-android-updates
http://www.techhive.com/article/256...es_do_the_best_job_with_android_updates_.html
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/12/the-checkered-slow-history-of-android-handset-updates/
I do agree, it is a joke that the sensation didn't get the update but I imagine that the device wasn't very popular and HTC didn't see much point putting time/money into it as nearly every man and his dog went for the GS 2....
But HTC did provide the ICS update to the sensation before the GS 2, they also provided the GB update to the desire before the GS 1 (although not officially)
HTC so far seem to be keeping to their promise regarding not releasing loads of other devices ad if they keep to it then they only have the 1 device to maintain.....
Also you have you have to bare in mind that they moved much closer to stock android now, sense is mostly bloat free where as Samsung have moved further from the stock android UI and brought a load of bloat and extra features in (not to mention they will have two versions [exynos and snapdragon] to maintain) thus this time round they could be slower by a decent amount.
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Well, iPhone user's don't think removable battery a problem, but at the same time I am not an iPhone user. From what I have seen with iPod touch in the past, the battery gets pretty nakerd.
I have read about li-poly battery, to me there doesn't seem to be a clear advantage. In fact it was said li-lion battery could be recharged more times. Doesn't seem like a lot of help, most reviews expressed a day of usage (I would consider my self as a someone who are on their phone all the time). Also quick charge, if i understood correct means does not allow the phone to charge until the battery drops to 95%, which existed on my HTC Sensation but only limited to 99%. I don't know how much this will help, but it is good to see they are doing something about it. I personally don't like accessories, so power pack would be the last option if there is none better.
I'm in the UK as well, but never contacted HTC because I never had a problem (credit to HTC for that). It is still nice to know they fix battery issues.
Anyhow, you were very helpful. I think I am more convinced now. Before I go, just want to remind everyone HTC One is much cheaper sim free (at least in the UK anyway).
PS: We all know Desire did not get proper GB support, was a gimmicky release just to shut people up

Nobody can make you buy it. . . your post meantions Samsung a few times... u stated you like it. Fanboy? Trolling? Really mate? Half the things you want a samsung has, HTC doesnt, i LOVE The htc personally! And wouldnt go for a samsung because i got bored with touchwiz. But you decide.
Read reviews, go in store and play with phones! Ure asking on a HTC One Forum, most people will say get it! Mainly because 90% of us have one. . . but come one. . . your decision, your mind.
MODS: is there any need for this post? Maybe be closed?

I was in the same boat as you. Decided to go with One and couldn't be happier. Camera is spectacular, the phone feels and works great.
Need more convincing? If you don't buy the One, one kitten will die
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