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Would you get new HD2 if yours is broken?

let's say your HD2 fell in water, or fell on the floor, or for some reason was suddenly not operating and cannot be fixed, and you have to buy another unit.
will you get yourself a new HD2 now that you really know the device? or buy another phone?
What would you buy if not another HD2 and why?

let's say your HD2 fell in water, or fell on the floor, or for some reason was suddenly not operating and cannot be fixed, and you have to buy another unit.
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Ok, i prefer not to think of that situation though
will you get yourself a new HD2 now that you really know the device? or buy another phone?
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Hard to say if i get another HD2 as there are many other phones out there with the same spec as an HD2. But if there were not id buy an HD2 in a moment as its a great phone, great screen, excellent call quality, active rom creating community for upgraded / custom roms .. Yeah it is a great device and id give it some thought if id have to purchase a new one ..
What would you buy if not another HD2 and why?
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Probably id get a DroidX when it arrives. It has a similar spec and screen size as the HD2 and looks very nice .. Id be able to surf the web no probs on that device which is the primary reason i bought the HD2, so for me any device that has a large screen for web surfing and allows me to make a call once in a while would do me fine .. Hey would the 5" Dell Streak be too big for the pocket, hmm id give that one some thought too

Nope, I love my Leo but I'd get an Android device and will be doing so when I can upgrade next January. I'd like to stick with a 4.3" screen though so therefore I'd like an Evo. But HTC have decided not to sell them in the UK so it would have to be a Desire.

I love my leo too, buti'll buy a droidX if I have to change quicker.

I like it, but prefer android based OS.
So if I could get as big a screen with TMOUSA, then I would change.

I'll wait for HD3

no, I will never buy such device.
Why? read my posts, there and then on this forum, including compete list of what's very wrong with it.
In short:
-poor support
-poor amount of updates, actually over because HTC discontinued the device
-official rom suck and is buggy
-HTC's philosophy to attack the one making roms
-Stupid design (sound, power button on the front, etc...)
Etc...
Also, I look competition and I see new Motorolla X, and I'm tempted to say: wow.
I heard feedback from people with droid and they did not have to wait custom roms to say "it works"...

If I broke my leo, I'd get a HD4, cause I hear its going to have a flux capacitor and be capable of generating the 1.21 gigawatts needed to power it.

Well, I ran into such a situation. My HD2 was not recognizing any sim card 50% of the time. And when it did, it only lasted for a short while. After trying all non invasive fixes, I decided to "operate" on it, taking it down to the screen. Still couldnt get it right. So I bought another one. I think it is a great phone for what I use it for. And, now I have a parts phone!

interesting question
Currently happned to me something similar. Phone has fallen out of my pocket on the ground, it was only 50-60cm, but screen is broken like if someone throw it against a bricked wall.
It will cost me at least 150EUR, bad luck. They do not repair only glass because is stick together with display and removing can break it.
I saw it at some thread ,that this is more problem of the hole around hw keys at the bottom. So basicly the design of the front panel, when phone is falling at bottom side.
But if it will be destroyed completely, I am not sure, but probably I will buy something else:
- phone itself is almost 9 months old, there are or shortly will be better phones
- there are still bugs after almost a year, and if they are solved they are not available for customers, for example official region version differencies
- is good that somewhere at forum is ROM which helps with battery consumption in standby mode, but you are not able to use it, basicly you are forced to break waranty otherwise you will be keep on usatisfied with device and forced to wait for official version for your region and wait and etc.
I like this device, but I am not blind to see weak points of the device or company policy, so it is almost 50-50 but time is ticking and competition will bring us better phones soon, I am optimist

If that happened tomorrow, Id get a HTC Desire.
If it happened just before the Nokia E5 is released, Id go buy a cheapo phone to tide me over till E5's release.

HD2s are really cheap now on ebay, and I have a pretty fair library built up already so chances are good I'd pick up another one. Although it's equally likely I'd get a big Dell Streak. I mean have you seen the thing? Its keyboard has a numeric keypad!!!

If I absolutely needed a phone immediately, it would be a toss up between another HD2 or iPhone 4. Android on the HD2 seems closer every day so having that option would be nice - but I've got WinMo exactly how I like it and I don't mind it at all. Further, lets face it, the 4.3" screen size is just spoiling. I wouldn't switch for an Evo, and the DroidX is just TOO big.
If I could wait a few months, I'd look for a HD3 / other WP7 device... or an iPhone 4.

lexx-luthor said:
If I broke my leo, I'd get a HD4, cause I hear its going to have a flux capacitor and be capable of generating the 1.21 gigawatts needed to power it.
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but doesn't that run plutonium

nope, i want to move to the other platform
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0% chance that i will buy blackberry
5% chance: that i will buy iphone 4
15% chance that i will buy n900
25% chance that i will buy the nokia n8
10% chance that i will buy the meego device
45% chance that i will buy the android device

Pagnell said:
Nope, I love my Leo but I'd get an Android device and will be doing so when I can upgrade next January. I'd like to stick with a 4.3" screen though so therefore I'd like an Evo. But HTC have decided not to sell them in the UK so it would have to be a Desire.
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Ditto, Desire all the way. I am looking into Android a little more lately, I most probably won't, but I am trying to persuade myself to buy one.

I might get a Desire not because i don't like my HD2 but because i always have an itch to try something else.
Having said that it would be a close call i am due an upgrade on one of my contracts and was looking yesterday on the vodafone site, jeepers have you seen the prices on the Iphone 4's, flipping eck even if i wanted one i wouldn't get one, thats one expensive phone...
And having had a look around i've decided to stay with my HD2 for a while until something else comes out...

"I might get a Desire not because i don't like my HD2 but because i always have an itch to try something else."
I know what you mean. I spent a year or so with my WM Tytn II - loved it then kind of got irritated by it's clunkiness ... had a Hero with Android for a year - loved it then kind of got bored and wanted a change ... ended up losing it and taking the HD2 as a replacement.
Android has some great integration, especially for social networking, but IMO it's not a great OS for business and things like emailing/file management. WM appears to be lacking in the former (although the HD2 is better because of HTC's work) but stronger in the latter.
For those reasons, I'd like to stick with the HD2 and see what my upgrade options are - iPhone 4 is an obvious option for me, but it's not often seen as the greatest tool for business etc.

Android is the future
I know that hurts, especially all of us that have HD2(Windows mobile), but Android based devices are future. So probably if I broke my phone(I hope not), I will buy EVO or Desire. But I want to point out, i will never buy iPhone 4.

Spacechimp said:
"I might get a Desire not because i don't like my HD2 but because i always have an itch to try something else."
I know what you mean. I spent a year or so with my WM Tytn II - loved it then kind of got irritated by it's clunkiness ... had a Hero with Android for a year - loved it then kind of got bored and wanted a change ... ended up losing it and taking the HD2 as a replacement.
Android has some great integration, especially for social networking, but IMO it's not a great OS for business and things like emailing/file management. WM appears to be lacking in the former (although the HD2 is better because of HTC's work) but stronger in the latter.
For those reasons, I'd like to stick with the HD2 and see what my upgrade options are - iPhone 4 is an obvious option for me, but it's not often seen as the greatest tool for business etc.
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Well, after reading all the previous posts, I was almost convinced to change to Droids, but reading your post, and the fact that you had TYTNII like i did, and you tried Droid for a year, i am sure you have a good point that droids are goo for social networking (showing off) and WM is good for business, and business is what i need.
but reading other posts and looking at my past 4 years experience in HTC, i am more than convinced that HTC company sucks, so i will try to find a better WM device from another company, but i am not sure if there is any

[CHAT] How long do you think you will keep your HD2 for...?

I've posted in Android General here as I reckon it's those of us who have switched OSs who are getting a Second Life(TM) from their HD2s...
Personally, I am finding my phone experience so different from the WinMo days. At that time I was always switching ROMs, always trying to get better use from the phone/solve the glitches, but never quite getting there (altho there is/was fantastic work from the ROM devs here)
But now with Android, I find my experience is great, and glitch-free. I'm still always playing with new ROMs, but only for the excitement of new features rather than to solve annoyances. I've had my HD2 a year and I personally think I could stay with it even another 2 years.
The hardware has been (imo) perfected for the current time (4.3" screen, decent processor, nice form-factor, expandable micro-SD), and all the excitement now is in Google's OS improvements, with perhaps two new iterations of Android planned for this year. Even to the extent that I would be tempted to buy a spare HD2 for future use (as my hardware buttons may be about to give way...)
The only features that could cause me to upgrade are:
- Pico Projector (but as a novelty appealing to my geekiness than anything useful)
- HDMI-out (which again, I think I would get use out of perhaps 4 times a year, and as a novelty the rest of the time)
- Maybe a hardware keyboard a la HD7 Pro, but only if it has Android and was as a free upgrade
But apart from that, here is to an almost perfect hardware phone, now matched by perfect and evolving software. Long live HD2!!
So how long do you think you will stay with the HD2?

well my hd2 felt down several times to the floor and has some scratches at the rubber edges now. further i have the "jitterbug" of the touchscreen since first day (is mostly handable with swype)!
so let me think about your question... i guess i will stick to my hd2 for another year! want to buy a device with a hardware keyboard after that.

I agree with you in many ways smeddy. For me the HD2 is perfect in terms of it's size and layout (personally I do not want a hardware keyboard), the processor is snappy enough, the ability to expand the storage with an sd card is brilliant especially with a2sd+ and such like - for me I would have prefered a 1024TMOUS just for the extra space.
The only thing I can see on the horizon that may tempt me away is the Motorola Atria

For me, the only reason i'd upgrade is for more internal memory, say a 8/16gb device, since i'm feeling threatened by my lack of space. So i guess i'll keep my hd2 for maybe 4 months to a year.

I'll probably be keeping it for another year or so till I am due for re-contract. The phone served me well and its still doing well, probably I will get an andriod tablet if I need to make video call from oversea

will use it till it stops working

Waiting for htc dual core

I'll keep mine until this becomes true
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/2011/01/09/2ghz-motorola-atrix-coming-to-orange-soon/
this year will be the year for Motorola

Holy Shi# that thing is sick. I seen one of the devs talk about that phone on irc. Never knew what it was.

I bought it relatively late ...Still have it for a year now without a scratch!The phone has served me well.The options between OSs,the design/yes i really like it !/the functions,the hardware,the display...It is perfect!It is now a LeoNANDroid and i like it even better!
I like how the little Apple fanboys mistake it for iPhone4,i like how the people at my provider's store look like that when they see im runnin Linux/Android.Maybe the only thing i miss is 720p recording...So basicaly i will run it till it dies,then il buy anotherone if i can^^.The best spent $400 in my life!

I'll keep it until something better comes along that makes it worth upgrading. The Moto Atrix looks nice, hardware list wise, but I'll skip it due to it being Motorola. Other companies will release an equivalent or better.
Going back to a slide-out keyboard is very tempting as well.

Ill keep hold of mine for a bit,maybe wait for the Desire HD to come down in price,see what Htc bring at the MWC in Feb,in the mean time im happy with it

good opening post.
I love my HD2 on Android (wish it was a TMOUS though with the additional on board mem.)
NAND Android rocks and I love the hardware and (now) software on the phone.
Would just like a better camera with a real flash ... 720p recording?
So at the moment nothing on the market matches it.
GG

Late to the party but i have just ordered one, had a Blackstone up until Christmas and can't resist the tweakability and amount of OS's this thing can deliver!
Can see myself owning it for at least 2 years!

I have been using HD2 for little over a year. I have flashed so many roms on it; I lost count a long time ago. However, the screen started freezing right before the Android NAND boot came out. I still flashed NAND on my phone to see it works and it did but without the touch screen.
I send my phone to HTC for repair last week and it is on the way back. I am planning to keep it for at least another year. The only thing I am missing is a front camera for video chatting and the ability to go 4G. I don’t do a lot of video chatting and the 4G is only available at selected location.
I like everything about this phone! The look, the feel, everything…. I don’t have a reason to change the HD2. The support which is available for the phone out there is incredible. When I get bored with a particular style, I flash a new rom! If we get to a point where we use 4G every day, I might change to a 4G phone. Or they have to invent a phone which will make me breakfast, lunch and dinner!

HD2 is definitely a keeper.

How long do you think you will keep your HD2 ?
That's a question that can only be answered by my wife's wallet
Cheers,
/Cacti

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will use it till it stops working
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This.
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The Atrix does look interesting. Thanks for he heads-up.
I think "use it until it stops working" is the most concise way of stating it
Johncmolyneux - from Northampon! I've followed your work so much on XDA, and never knew you were from my hometown, well from Wellingborough to be exact

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Johncmolyneux - from Northampon! I've followed your work so much on XDA, and never knew you were from my hometown, well from Wellingborough to be exact
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Thanks man - it's appreciated
I've moved about a bit, but keep ending up back in Northampton. It's a good place, as is Wellingborough. If you ever need any assistance, come round my house Not really
BIGUP The Northants!!!

Why all the Samsung misconception and hate?

I have seen numerous HTC fans spew crap about Samsung for updates and build quality issues. For example, many state that the plastic build quality is of very low quality, of which is very opposite in reality in which in plastic is actually very solid. I have dropped my Vibrant many times and it still looks like new, can't say that about metal which dents and gets dinged. As for updates, blame your carriers. The international versions got updates several months before the carrier versions.
Here are some quotes from some obvious HTC users.
"Last year, Consumer Reports (a major U.S. publication) branded the U.S. Galaxy S versions as some of the best Android phones. Not only were they NOT the best, they were missing some basic functionality and lagged like a phone from a previous generation. Let's not even talk about lack of support from Samsung. Too many people fall for the SAMOLED eye candy and ignore everything else."
Or "Thank god I have some help.. hehe I honestly dunno why these SamSux people think S G II is pretty muhahua. It's one ugly plastic crap i've ever seen. They keep coming in HTC thread telling people to buy their plastic crap. "
Or "Another troll just childish, u will se Samsung will never have so awesome devs like HTC phones have especially when.I look at the desire section, a lot of them will buy a sensation and that's the reason why i will buy one to "
What do you think about the public conception of Samsung here at XDA?

The first quote is spot on. The lag was unbearable, the GPS inop, and support was nonexistent. Samoled was nice until you seen the jagged text. Battery life was also terrible. The phones are usable now, after 3-4 updates (updates that were bricking phones and frying storage, mind you) but the GPS is still borderline useless for lots of people and it still lags more than a Samsung jack wm6.5 device (by a long shot).
I they do better with the s2 good for them, but they are indefendable irt these phones. Hype can only get you so far...
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The first quote is spot on. The lag was unbearable, the GPS inop, and support was nonexistent. Samoled was nice until you seen the jagged text. Battery life was also terrible. The phones are usable now, after 3-4 updates (updates that were bricking phones and frying storage, mind you) but the GPS is still borderline useless for lots of people and it still lags more than a Samsung jack wm6.5 device (by a long shot).
I they do better with the s2 good for them, but they are indefendable irt these phones. Hype can only get you so far...
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Way to read my first paragraph. Support was due to the carriers, not Samsung directly. And I still do not understand what this lag is, even on JFD I had installed 30 apps and still little to no lag for me.
And the jagged text? have both a HD7 and a HD2 with me no, and I see no difference worth speaking of between the screens. I do 20/20 vision.
Battery life terrible? Wait till you see the desire HD or thunderbolt. The GS2 has also been reported to have good battery life.
Have you even tried a custom rom N8ter? CM7 nevers lags, even when underclocked to 400 mhz. And as to that HTC phones work better out of the box statement, we are on XDA. Hell, many of those HTC fanboys wanted the Sensation due to the dev attention they believed it would get, even with a locked bootloader.

I don't mod my phones and nor should anyone be expected to. The performance of the phone now is usable. Where was cyanogen in august to December 2010, though?
Don't answer that.
Bunch of excuses. What you quoted is true.
Text on a samoled panel is more jagged than on others. Its a side effect of the pen tile pixel arrangement used. Its very noticeable when you have white text on a black background - at least for me it is.
These panels also suffer from burnin more than any other screen type I've used.
Support from carriers does not help when the hardware is faulty (gps)'or the device has design flaw like rfs. Samsung can push out an update that replaces rfs. They choose not to. They should have recalled phones with known hw gps falls but.they just blamed it on the users andbgave them a useless tool to rwser some setting many of us never touched to begin with.
I read your whole post btw, bit I'm typing from devices so stop acting.like I'm obligated to comment on or rebut every tucking thing in it...
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The way I see it is why would anyone buy an android and use it stock lol considering stock is garbage to custom roms. End of story

This is the fourth vibrant I've had, gps was piss poor, and I was able to get new ones because of it. This newest handset has really good locks. I like the phone even after the gps problems. I bought an otter box and some ghost armor. With the case it feels solid. I know not everyone will get a case to make the phone feel built but it's nice. Id buy another samsung device no problem. I like the feel and ease of use.
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Bionix next gen
Overstock kernel to 1.2
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Fact: Despite samsung's delay in releasing froyo for the vibrant and it's GPS problems, the vibrant was/is still a greatr phone with an awesome display and great hardware!
Guys , am just wating for galaxy s 2 , rumour has it that it is going to be the best smart phone for a long time!!

I have to agree with N8ter. This will probably be my last Samsung device. I told myself from the start I'd never get another Samsung device, but it was all Asurion had to replace my water-damaged, but beloved N1. Ugh. I wish I had waited for them to get something else.
The lag KILLS me! I want to throw the damn phone against the wall or some concrete almost daily. Samsung could have definitely kept RFS to their damn selves. Even the browser lags on me most times.
I get a bunch of missed calls even when I have full coverage. The only way I'd even know I would miss them is if my girlfriend would text me to pick up my phone or check Google Voice for missed calls.
The GPS... yeah. Go back to the comment about me wanting to throw my phone against the hardest surface available, and multiply that by 100. The GPS has almost made me late for several appointments (job interviews, drug testing, etc.), and actually gotten me lost in my own native home of Atlanta. I don't get how the hell the GPS can possibly think I'm somewhere .5 miles away then where I am actually am.
I absolutely hate how it doesn't have an LED. NoLED does the job, but isn't really what I would call a suitable replacement.
I also hate how it looks like an iPhone. If I wanted an iPhone lookalike, I would have went out and bought an iPhone. I am really tired of people always asking me, "Is that an iPhone?"
I also despise TouchWiz. I despise manufacturer skins in general, but touchwiz REALLY grinds my gears.
One of the very few good redeeming qualities about this damn phone is the amount of internal storage, but which I barely make use of b/c of wanting to keep all of files stored on my external. I also like the dev tools they have, such as Odin. It's saved me a couple of times from bad flashing and just plain operator error. I also like how easy it was to install the front facing camera. But, then again, why the hell should I have to install it in the first place?
Overall, I am not a happy camper with Samsung. Once I start this new job, or get my financial aid refund check , it's definitely time for a new phone, and it sure as hell won't be Samsung. I was thinking about giving this phone to my girlfriend to replace her T-Mobile Tap, but I don't know if I want to torture her that much.
P.S. This is after using custom roms. God forbid how horrid my experience would have been on stock. I think I might have really thrown it in oncoming traffic.

its obvious that you're stuck in your mindset, so why even start a thread? its useless. coming from an owner of both brands, each have pros and cons. my epic and inspire both have poor battery life. inspire is smooth while the epic lags. furthermore, my epic has better overall display, but the inspire looks better picture wise, not contrast or color, quality. my point is, phones appeal to one person or another. no need for a useless thread targeting one manufacturer.
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Glad to see Samsung has learned their lesson, they have released sgs2 with unlocked boot loader and they just released sgs2 source as well
Thanks Samsung, I'll prefer you over htc and motorola
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I am quite satisfied with my vibrant coming from an HD2 NAND.
It is quite fast and has a much more pleasant desing than most other HTC phones.
Only problem is the HORRIBLE gps.

mugenfiji0327 said:
You are just whining and repeating what other members have stated so many times in this thread. HTC sucks, Samsung will always be better. All the problems that you are whining about disappeared when custom roms came. That's the point of custom roms so you don't have to use the crappy stock firmware. Anyway if you are still having trouble after using a custom rom and still think you have room to complain, then you probably shouldn't even own an android device and it is most likely user error. You're just an HTC fanboy, I am not saying that Samsung is the best but they are better than HTC. On top of that the Vibrant outdoes most of the new phones and all of the older phones that T-mobile has and it's over 6 months old. So quit basing your opinions on the phone off of your HTC loyalty.
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And you're a closed-minded Samsung fanboy so you can take your opinion and go eat shi* for all I care. Most of my complaints might have been stated already, but clearly the more times it's stated proves it's not just isolated incidents. I'm not basing my phone off of any loyalty. I'm basing it off of the fact that it frustrates the hell out of me. And I assure you it's not user error. I've been dealing with computers and electronics and modding etc since I was 7 and am a computer science major, so I assure you it's not user error. Every single one of those problems has persisted since I used a custom rom, and who the hell are you to tell me I shouldn't own an Android device? I know all about custom roms and have been using them since I got my first smartphone, the HTC wizard. If you think Samsung is better than HTC, that's fine. We're all entitled to our opinion. I, however, could care less about another Samsung phone ever again. I really regret the day my Nexus One fell in that pot of water.
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Every HTC phone that I have ever owned or seen has been the most worthless product. I would rather dig an old razr out from the bottom of a dumpster and use it than to ever use an HTC product again. All they have is cons, no pros at all.
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And you call me a fanboy. Yeah. Ok. At least I'm willing to admit this phone does have some pros.

I like the sgs line. Sure, there not the best out there, but as a rom chef and themer, I can honestly say this this phone is the best for that. Almost unbrickable. Don't forget, with HTC and moto(dont quote me on moto), they don't have Odin. That is a HUGE selling point for me. I would be pissed if I spent $x on a HTC phone, and had a bad flash. Now its a door stop. Just my .2.
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mugenfiji0327 said:
Everybody always runs to the I'm a computer science major and I've been working with technology since I was this age excuse.BS, I don't buy one word of that and I am willing to bet a lot on the fact that it is user error and you most likely do not even know close to what you are saying you know. If you are a computer science major then instead of complaining about the problems then why don't you fix them tough guy ? That's what I thought, full of bs just like every other troll on every other forum. I'm not a Samung fanboy or close minded I just know that samsung is and always will be better than the worthless company known as HTC that you love oh so much.
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Lol. Quite frankly I don't give a damn WHAT you believe. I don't have to prove myself to some anonymous person on the internet. You can eat **** and die for all I care. I know it's not user error. Even if I don't have the know how to go in and fix Samsung's mistakes myself, yet, I know how to read carefully and apply others' fixes. So go troll someone else. Like I said, it's your OPINION that Samsung is the better company, and that's fine. But, as for myself, I know I won't be giving Samsung another chance.
Good day to you.

I have seen Plastic = poor build quality in US mostly.

it's a loyalty thing, you know the last HTC device i owned was actually an I-Mate. still to this day I remember how damn awesome that thing was. swivel screen, Large Keyboard, solid PLASTIC construction, stereo speakers, 3.5 jack. etc. OS blew, think it was windows mobile umm 5? i know i ran 6.5 on it before i upgraded.
this phone was a beast. and the last HTC built device i ever owned as i switched to nokia and sony Ericsson smart phone devices, somehow i ended up with a samsung i900 Omnia (gsm) and have stuck with samsung since.
http://www.gsmarena.com/i_mate_jasjar-1262.php <--Beast.

Pretty cool ! I like how it supported 3g video calling in 2005 I had a Nokia 6630 then

To each their own.
I am commited to buying a usa sgs2. Why with the terrible support we've had? I truely think that samsung has learned their lesson. Releasing the source so soon after the phones launch is amazing. I have also read just about every review and watched every video. Its exactly the experience I want.
Even with all the problems of the sgs... I still love it. The reason why I know I love it is cause I am currently using a mytouch 4g. Its great that I can overclock it to 1.5ghz. Frankly I am really starting to miss my vibrant. I Love that phone. With its ****ty gps and its laggy ass stock ui and its horrible support. I am after all A tinker at heart!

mugenfiji0327 said:
I'm not trolling, I'm just simply trying to get an ignorant bullshitter to shut his mouth that's all. As far as I know that's not trolling,it's doing the forum a favor.
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I don't have time to argue with a close-minded idiot. If you can't accept other people have opinions different from yours, then that's your problem. Now, I said good day.

boystuff said:
it's a loyalty thing, you know the last HTC device i owned was actually an I-Mate. still to this day I remember how damn awesome that thing was. swivel screen, Large Keyboard, solid PLASTIC construction, stereo speakers, 3.5 jack. etc. OS blew, think it was windows mobile umm 5? i know i ran 6.5 on it before i upgraded.
this phone was a beast. and the last HTC built device i ever owned as i switched to nokia and sony Ericsson smart phone devices, somehow i ended up with a samsung i900 Omnia (gsm) and have stuck with samsung since.
http://www.gsmarena.com/i_mate_jasjar-1262.php <--Beast.
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A friend of mine still uses this as his daily phone, he managed to preserved it all this long in a mint condition too

HD2 Dies What new Phone

hi my hd2 is dying :crying:´ first the camera flashlight broke now my display dies its working sometimes after 10 times pressing on off button so what new phone is the best value for money to get at moment ?

_JaSoN_ said:
hi my hd2 is dying :crying:´ first the camera flashlight broke now my display dies its working sometimes after 10 times pressing on off button so what new phone is the best value for money to get at moment ?
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The Nexus 4 without any doubt.
But if your budget allows, you may wait and see what samsung has to offer. Also, you can consider the HTC One.

Marvlesz said:
The Nexus 4 without any doubt.
But if your budget allows, you may wait and see what samsung has to offer. Also, you can consider the HTC One.
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budget is not a big problem but why buy cheap phones when cheaper 1s can do the same or even be better
the htc one i was thinking about to get but i dont like the not removable batterie and that there u cant use a sd card thats a big letdown
the s4 is big as the s3 or even bigger i guess :X dont want a phat phone like that its kinda like a tablet lol

If you want removable battery & SD card then your choices are limited.
S3 is not a lot bigger than the HD2 & has removable battery & SD slot plus prices have dropped a lot. Another plus point is strong custom ROM development & device specific apps that can make ownership more pleasurable.

i have the same problem like OP. But I want an open source Phone.
But i think HD2 is the only one around here.
I like Windows Phone, because I think it has many potential. But I also like Android, bevcause of costumisation. But I also hate Android, because of the stupid app-menue, and bull****-marketplace.

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But I also hate Android, because of the stupid app-menue, and bull****-marketplace.
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I 'tried to get you' (see what I did there?) but I couldn't. Y U NO MAKE SENSE?
@OP I can very strongly recommend the Nexus 4. Don't bother with a One, there's no significant advantage to getting it over a N4 and definitely no justification of the extra cost. The GS3 is a great device and runs very well, but having used a N4 I genuinely see a difference in speed between the two. If money isn't an issue and you're adamant about having an SD slot and removable battery, wait for the GS4 and get one of those instead. It's expected to launch fairly soon and I think you'd regret buying a One right now when the GS4 will almost certainly be better.

If you're used to the 'hackability' of the HD2, the last thing you want to do is buy a current HTC device. Believe me, I've been there Their developer support is lame and their warranty policy is dreadful (and illegal in Europe, although I haven't seen that put to the test yet) the first thing they do when they receive a device is send you an invoice to repair or even return the device to you if it's bootloader unlocked, even if the fault has nothing to do with software. Plus, their idea of a bootloader unlock isn't really what most used to older HTC devices (S-Off) are used to...
I think the Nexus 4 is probably about the best option right now. It doesn't have an SD card slot. It doesn't have a removable battery (although the battery is pretty easy to replace when it wears out, it's just four screws and a bit of coercion.) Those two alone are going to be dealbreakers for some, and for the remaining people, the glass back might be an issue. I'm not going to lie, it's not ideal. I'd like the hardware of the Nexus 4 in the chassis of the HTC One X, myself (I don't like aluminium phones, they dent and look ugly in no time)
The only other things really worth considering are Sony devices - the Xperia Z looks pretty tasty, since they have a similar level of developer support and the company has made a really good effort to support the development community and AOSP in general. However, you have to be careful as operator branded Sony devices are locked down like Fort Knox (no bootloader unlock at all AFAIK.)
Samsung are going very much in the direction of HTC these days with regard to developer support (e.g. crap.) On top of that, I personally wouldn't buy a Samsung device because they keep releasing buggy hardware (S2, Note 1, S3, Note 2) with serious flaws that kill the devices, and their patches for these issues are a) dodgy code and b) don't appear to totally eliminate the SoD issue on the S3/Note 2. I'd be more forgiving if it weren't for the fact that the eMMC bugs traverse several generations of Samsung devices and now I suspect they just have crap quality control. I don't really like the idea of paying to beta test hardware for them :-/

Some good points in post above.
I was keen on S3 because of sd slot, removable battery & easy use of dual sim card adaptor but Samsung QC & pi55 poor service in my region made me change my mind on that.
Really is not that many really good spec phones available at the moment, most lack sd slots which works out expensive per Gb of storage & if phone dies so does the data.
Maybe worth some reinvesting in another HD2 or repairing the one they already have as current selection falls short for the prices they retail for ...

Umm buy another Le
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Just GOOGLE NEXUS Group:good:

Oppo Find 5
if you can catch one

"Elephant in the room" aka problems we don't talk about.

So, I'll probably be buying this phone very soon, once it hits shelves in local T-mobile store.
While everyone is ecstatic about it, I feel we should discuss the real problems we could encounter down the road, the ones that could threaten our positive experience later.
Some of them are:
1) Non-removable battery and low repairability overall.
Although most people change their phones every 2 years (which is claimed battery life of HTC One), there are still some of us who might keep it for prolonged period of time. How does it change and can it be changed at all - at least without butchering the phone? I'm aware that there are additional insurances which you can buy with your plan, but there are none here where I live and I'm pretty sure it's also not available in all countries.
Who performs the repairs on it and how do they do it? HTC themselves or some associates with questionable professionalism? Personally, I wouldn't want any of them to butcher my phone then glue it quickly and resend it to me like that, which is what could happen, for example, if you would need to replace your screen.
2) Low resale value due to non-removable battery and low repairability overall.
This is still questionable, but plausible nevertheless.
3) Infrequent software updates.
I've never owned a HTC device before, but I hear and read that they are not famous about pushing updates often and regularly. This could be an issue once they exit the spotlight and this "pre-sale" period is over, things start to settle down with competition, etc.
4) Obsolescence in case they come up with "One+" or something like that.
It's a common practice nowadays, to launch newer, better, improved same device with similar name, approximately a year after the original comes out. I believe we all know about iPhone 4 --> 4s, Galaxy S2 --> S2 Plus, HTC One X --> One X+, etc.
I think it would piss me off to see they've come up with One+ (with, let's say, 8MP Ultrapixel camera, Android 5.0 out of the box, bigger battery, etc.) a year later. In such case, you are again left with lowered resale value, broken nerves and skinnier wallet.
Let's be honest, it could easily happen and not everyone's impressed with current 4MP performer, although it's good (great at times), it's still average in daylight and above average in low light - in my opinion, which may differ from yours, so no flaming please. All this adds to increased wish to swap it for One+ and produces happiness if you can, but disappointment and sadness in case you can't (which is kind of a problem).
5) Can't think of more "elephants", if you do, write it down and I'll add it here if you wish.
Thanks.

i'm sure there will be a strong reason if you're not immediately banned for trolling

Why would that be and what makes you think I'm a troll? Just because I'm more "down to Earth"? Actually I find your post useless.

He's not trolling, he's quite right about the points he's making. Don't emberrass yourself if you don't know what trolling actually means.
I really want to know who will change my One's battery when I wanted to because I don't buy phones every 2 years.

Points 1 and 2 are valid for iPhones too, yet they have a very high resale value.
Regarding 3, HTC is actually quite good with updates, big updates to Sense too, which are often more important than android updates anyway but even with these HTC is often first or second with updates.
Regarding 4, I agree, I want to own the best HTC phone for about a year, not 6 months. At least Samsung and Apple don't release a new top phone every other season.

Yes lets live on the what ifs. My complaints would be more abouttheactual problems. Touch buttons not responding etc
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1) Im sure HTC will offer a service to replace the battery. It will probably be more expensive than for other phones, and what they will probably do is give you a reconditioned unit and use your phone for parts.
2) A phone should not be seen as an investment.
3) We've already received a significant update only 1 monty after release, so hopefully the trend continues.
4) This will be the case with any phone you buy. The pace at which the mobile industry goes, phones become "old" within 6-12 months.

That's why we are given a choice. If those "elephant in the room" really bothers you, then don't get the phone, choose another one that can live by your expectations. There isn't really a point in this thread. We all know these things, yet we still buy it. Why? Because it is the phone we choose, in spite of those elephant in the room you're talking about.
Don't like it? Choose another phone. Simple.

What is wrong with you OP?.
1. iFixit is a bunch of electronics "enthusiasts" at best. Their score only points out that the phone isn't repairable via their method. HTC has ways of repairing phone. How do you think they developed and tested the phone without having a way in? It is glued togehter, but how else would you make it 0-gap? The surely won't be running butcher knives around device to tear the case apart. They have what it's called service guide. Yes it may not be only 4 screws in plastic mold behind the plastic cover
2. See above
3. HTC has the best update history and that has been proven. BTW One X got last update less than a month ago, and the next one is incoming, bringing Sense 5 and latest jellybean. They were about 3 weeks later on jellybean with One X vs S3, but considering how much bigger samsung is and how flawed their update launch was with bricks and stuff, htc is doing an amazing job.
4. Every phone gets obsolete in 6m-1y. It's a fast pace technology. HTC has fitted all the best components in One. So has Samsung with S4. Just watch out what happens to s4 after note 3 comes out. Or to One after rumored M10 is released. If you plan to resale your phone go to the fruity company, their products usually keep value better.
5. The only "big elephant! in here is you unfortunately. Now go hide in a cave you troll.
And please close this thread someone...

for point2: try getting a Sony's flagship phone and wait until they push you an update 2 years later, lol. HTC pushes update out very frequently, only problem is that the update does not reach all regions/carrier at the same time. you may have to wait a bit but not very long (except if u're stuck with a carrier then... it's gonna be quite a long time, they're the one who's delaying the updates)

stirkac said:
What is wrong with you OP?.
5. The only "big elephant! in here is you unfortunately. Now go hide in a cave you troll.
And please close this thread someone...
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Wow, it amazes me how some people lack manners and ability to maintain mature discussion. I'm not your World of Warcraft character kid, so stop insulting.
1) I don't know who iFixit are, to me they are people who disassemble stuff and rate their repairability. "One" scored lowest grade on that, so why not mention it? "HTC has ways" means you don't know, the rest of your arguments are based on assumptions, thus are irrelevant.
2) I mentioned low resale value, not because I'm in business of selling phones or do I view it as investment, but because there are factors which reduce it's value over time - it's a fact, and could possibly make it a nightmare to sell it after 2 years. When your battery starts to die, you can't replace it and everybody will ask you "how old is it? how's the battery?", because people DO ask these questions. I have Galaxy S2 and will sell it in matter of days. By now, everybody asked me "is battery in good shape?". I always tell them the truth - it's a 2 year old phone, battery isn't that great anymore. You know what they say then? "OK, so I'll replace it if I buy it, thanks". Do you think this conversation would be easier with One in question? If not, to what extent would it make it more difficult?
3) Some say contrary, that they're always late - as I said, I wouldn't know, I guess I'll have to see it for myself. I reserve the right to be mistaken, but thanks for the info.
4) That's debatable, personally, I don't believe that "they've put all the best components" c*ap. I believe they've held it for their improved units which are around the corner, which pi**es me off, but you probably don't understand that.
As for the 5), your post is reported, please don't bother to reply if you can't maintain normal discussion.
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for point2: try getting a Sony's flagship phone and wait until they push you an update 2 years later, lol. HTC pushes update out very frequently, only problem is that the update does not reach all regions/carrier at the same time. you may have to wait a bit but not very long (except if u're stuck with a carrier then... it's gonna be quite a long time, they're the one who's delaying the updates)
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That makes sense :good:

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All the points offered here were already discussed a million times, so this thread adds nothing. Instead it provides a first class trolling ground.
No use for that, tbh.