Hi everyone.
Id like to start a thread where we collect, post and discuss all known individual tweaks and changes that can be made to the Galaxy Tab in order to gain performance and stability.
My experience with the Galaxy Tab has been similar to my latest phone, an HTC HD2. When I got the HD2 about one year ago, I positively hated it... slow, unstable, all sorts of problems, lags, crashes... its the way most of the hardware today is released. One year later, my HD2 has become the most amazing machine I've ever owned. From pushing it 1.6GHz stable, to tweaking registry, XML files, services and making everything work well. I remember not being able to watch smooth video on the HD2 to being able to watch flawlessly 720p content and going from the extreme of detesting the phone to loving it.
It was with the HD2 I discovered Android and fell in love with it. Since I have now two HD2s I have one with an SD ROM version of Gingerbread (that I can dual boot still from Windows Mobile) and a Froyo NAND. I run Android on the HD2 much much much faster and smoother than on the Galaxy Tab, that I also hated when I bought it a few weeks and that am starting to like after getting to know it, a new ROM, apps, etc. Even at 1GHz stock the HD2 with Froyo is vastly faster, smoother, more responsive and better to use. The approach d like to do as far as tweaking the Galaxy Tab is the same as I did for the HD2 with Windows Mobile, that is, install the best/fastest ROM I can, delete and remove all stuff I don't need and then tweak what's left.
The tweaks I've done so far on the Galaxy are simple but have made a huge difference. Id like with this thread to be able to collect individual tweaks and post them all here to share with everyone.
Im using Roto JMI Pre-Rooted Firmware v2 which was the main step after getting rid of the stock Samsung Rom that is nothing but a collection of problems.
The first thing I learned with this Tab is that WHATEVER IS ON YOUR HOME SCREENS THAT MOVES, IS BAD! Forget about having ANY type of apps or widgets that do any type of refresh, including stuff running on the upper task bar if they change icons or the move around… that mean a CPU cycle and refresh each time and there goes the tab's performance and battery life. The same goes for any type of Live Wallpaper. Beautiful but deadly. Never touch them!
- So, after a new ROM, the first thing I did was changing the file system to EXT4. This is the SINGLE BEST THING you can do to radically improve the performance of the Tab. Its extremely easy to do and the step-by-step instructions are as follow:
- Make sure you have an miniSD Card in with plenty of available space (it will be used automatically to backup your system during the conversion process)
- Get p1000-mck-r3-ext4-cwm.tar (the EXT4 Conversion Kernel)
- Connect the Tab in Downloading Mode to your PC via USB, start Odin3 1.7 and load the Kernel (click on the PDA button and select the p1000-mck-r3-ext4-cwm.tar and make sure PDA stays ticked after selecting the file).
- UNTICK Re-Partition check box and make sure the only boxes ticked are:
Auto Reboot
F. Reset Time
The PDA tickbox
- Click start and wait for PASS! (it will show highlighted green or Yellow on Odin)
- Now the Tab will restart and get stuck on the Samsung loading screen. This is normal. Turn it off by holding the power button for 5 seconds.
- Turn on the Tab again on into RECOVERY mode (Press Volume UP and Power On at the same time) and the EXT4 conversion will start automatically. The process will take up to one hour depending on how much stuff you have on your Tab. It took about 10 minutes on mine because I have a fresh install of Roto JMI v2.
- Once finished, click "Reboot System Now" (by pressing the power button).
- The reboot may take a while first time so be patient!
- Done!
- After that, the first tweak I did was to get rid of all my favorite widgets that moved around… net meter, news, weather and all these beautiful things KILL the Tab. Equally I had a CPU meter on the tray refreshing every 2 seconds and it took me a while to figure out that was the reason why every 2 seconds the system would stutter, whether watching a movie or browsing the web. So, out!
- Next was to install SetCPU under the ON DEMAND setting, minimum around 750MHz and maximum 1000MHz (unfortunately only with a custom Kernel you can go higher, currently up to 1.4GHz but not full stable and with lots of issues pending so I don’t recommend it)
- My following step was to get rid of the stock Samsung Homescreen (that is a resource hog and slow as hell) and replace it with a new one. I've tried them all and am making no recommendation here but the one that works for me and is by far the best IMO is LauncherPro. This single app makes using the Tab a whole better experience.
- Next was to disable the USELESS and (resource pig) Gallery and replace it with an app called QuickPic that is blazing fast (actually instant) and simply amazing to browse and view all media on the Tab.
- Next was to greatly improve the poor native GPS reception by replacing high performance files and drivers from the Orange Rom P1000JHKA1 that seems to work on all versions of the Tab, as originally posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922692
- With SystemApp Remover 4.12 I have disabled all system apps and services I don’t need (BE VERY CAREFUL AND DON'T REMOVE ROM APPS YOU WILL NEED). I have actually deleted some from ROM (Root access required of course), this includes useless stuff like STK Service starting every time, most of the Samsung stuff that I really don’t care for and just about all apps I know for sure I will never open a single time. Now, its important to understand if these apps are removed they will be removed PERMANENTLY from ROM so to get the back a hard reset will not be enough, you'll have to fully flash the ROM again. For most system apps I don’t use but am not sure, I use a different option and that is to simply disable them. In my case this includes all Bluetooth stuff (I never use it and even if it's off the Services are still running robbing performance and memory) and apps like the built-in Browser, Email and Messaging that suck and that I replaced with better apps. Its always a safer bet, at least initially to disable the apps you don’t need that uninstall them because at least you can go back and change your mind This is one area where Id like to learn more. There are many background services that I don’t know what they do and if they can be disabled or not. If someone knows what each one does and the safety of getting rid of them OR NOT, it would be great to post it here!
- Them, with Startup Auditor 2.3.2 I have disabled all unnecessary apps that start automatically every time the Tab boots so I don't have excess applications starting up that are not needed. Some I configured to be killed AGAIN if the system tries to restart them later after the boot-up
- Using Task Manager 1.0.7 and letting always run on background, I have configured all apps that I don’t need running to be auto-killed every time the phone goes to stand-by (screen off). This saves me lots of memory and CPU time on apps that I am actually not using.
- Finally, I monitor what is going on with an app called CPU Usage Timeliness Free 1.7.1.0 and use it to see EXACTLY which applications are using CPU cycles and interfering with performance. With it I have found that on my Tab I have an unsolved problem that is using over 100MB of memory and non-stop CPU usage between 15% and 45% of something called SECURITY STORAGE. I have no idea what it does. It can't be disabled and I don’t know where all the activity comes from. If someone know more about this and how to fix it, that will be great. Most of the performance issues I have on my Tab come from this Service that I don’t know how to tame. Surely, we can find a solution.
The system background services is one area where I'd like to know one by one, what each service does and if we need them or not, if it can be tweaked, disabled or deleted. Below is a complete list of the services I have safely disabled so far that have given me great performance boosts and with no negative issues on the system (IN BOLD), and OTHERS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT (not bold). Please note these are background services that start automatically. The changes made to the disabled apps/services is that they are reverted to ON-DEMAND so they all still work perfectly.
CALENDAR
CALENDAR STORAGE
COM. SEC.ANDROID.PROVIDERS.DOWNLOADS
CSC
DOWNLOAD MANAGER
DRM CONTENT
EMAIL
GALLERY
GOOGLE PARTNER SETUP
GOOGLE SERVICES FRAMEWORK
MARKET
MEDIA STORAGE
MESSAGING
MUSIC
SAMSUNG ACCOUNT
SERVICE MODE
SNS
WIPEOUT RECEIVER
WORLD CLOCK
Furthermore I uninstalled several of the Samsung Apps I don’t use and STK Service and disabled these system Apps I don’t use (YOU SHOULD CHOOSE THE ONES YOU WANT TO ENABLE OR DISABLE AS YOU MIGHT HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS):
All Bluetooth Services
All LiveWallpapers Services
Browser
CarHomeGoogle
CarHomeLauncher
Google Feedback
Screen Capture Service
Voice Search
Originally with my Tab I was getting Quadrant below 600 on average. Now, its always over 1900. This is not a "little" improvement, this is amazing upgrading. But id like this to be a starting point to learn and share more ways with everyone we can all share on things we can do to make the Tab as good as it was intended to be for everyone
Cheers!
1.4 oc is stable, and doesn't have any issues for alot of users.
all the things you disabled are all the things i use every day lol
never the less, good post, im going to use a couple apps you mentioned.
natious said:
1.4 oc is stable, and doesn't have any issues for alot of users.
all the things you disabled are all the things i use every day lol
never the less, good post, im going to use a couple apps you mentioned.
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The first block of disabled items (in bold) from CALENDAR to WORLD CLOCK are disabled start-ups but the apps works as usual. It just frees resources not required on boot till you actually start the application when you want.
The second block from Bluetooth Services to Voice Search are all disabled as I use none of those. Items disabled can be restarted again at any time upon activating them follwing a reboot, while items deleted (like Samsung Apps and STK) are gone forever.
Ive never flashed a ModaCo Kernel and got lots of feedback regarding probelms with 1.4OC. Do you have any issues at all or none? We are using different ROMs... What Quadrant do you get currently?
Cheers
Thank you for your post.
You have solved many of my questions. Also I am User of HD2 and had the same impressions, but now with Android Nand everything was great, also started to love it.
As for GTAB'll make those adjustments you suggested, some will not disable because I use Bluetooth as an example.
Any news please keep posting.
Success!
VeEuzUKY said:
The first block of disabled items (in bold) from CALENDAR to WORLD CLOCK are disabled start-ups but the apps works as usual. It just frees resources not required on boot till you actually start the application when you want.
The second block from Bluetooth Services to Voice Search are all disabled as I use none of those. Items disabled can be restarted again at any time upon activating them follwing a reboot, while items deleted (like Samsung Apps and STK) are gone forever.
Ive never flashed a ModaCo Kernel and got lots of feedback regarding probelms with 1.4OC. Do you have any issues at all or none? We are using different ROMs... What Quadrant do you get currently?
Cheers
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So far the oc is good, things load a little faster, especially nfs shift. Last run of quadrant was 2300-2400.
Ill try it again later after these optimizations and see how it goes, a member here has gotten 3000.
Having done nothing but root, my tab gets about 1000 quadrant score. I have tried setcpu using on demand and it actuall has made my tab worse. I am very hesitant to flash anything on the tab. It seems very involved and complicated. I have an HD2 as well and have been flashing since Android was on SD. That process is simple. Everything I have read about flashing things to the tab doesn't look that way. I really havent had any issues with my tab as stock other than a bit laggy at times. I would like to hear more about all of this. The oppinions I have read are either do it or don't do it. There are more problem posts after attempting to flash than there are good ones where it worked. I really could care less about a quadrant score to be honest, but I would like to have a faster smoother running tab. I really dont care about making calls on it either. Thats why I have a phone. JMO. I think part of the issue in this thread is that there are Euro and USA version which are completely different and require different roms and such.
I have been reading and lurking in the tab development thread for a while now and am not impressed with any of it yet. Maybe someone could shed some light on things and change my mind.
dubie76 said:
Having done nothing but root, my tab gets about 1000 quadrant score. I have tried setcpu using on demand and it actuall has made my tab worse. I am very hesitant to flash anything on the tab. It seems very involved and complicated. I have an HD2 as well and have been flashing since Android was on SD. That process is simple. Everything I have read about flashing things to the tab doesn't look that way. I really havent had any issues with my tab as stock other than a bit laggy at times. I would like to hear more about all of this. The oppinions I have read are either do it or don't do it. There are more problem posts after attempting to flash than there are good ones where it worked. I really could care less about a quadrant score to be honest, but I would like to have a faster smoother running tab. I really dont care about making calls on it either. Thats why I have a phone. JMO. I think part of the issue in this thread is that there are Euro and USA version which are completely different and require different roms and such.
I have been reading and lurking in the tab development thread for a while now and am not impressed with any of it yet. Maybe someone could shed some light on things and change my mind.
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flash modacos kernel and rom, convert to ext4, you'll be amazed.
to OP
In startup auditor i just checked disable all, and am not having any problems, unless you are using task manager to disable
...CALENDAR
CALENDAR STORAGE...
edit: But when i check advanced task killer, it still shows that all the disabled apps are running
dubie76 said:
Having done nothing but root, my tab gets about 1000 quadrant score. I have tried setcpu using on demand and it actuall has made my tab worse. I am very hesitant to flash anything on the tab. It seems very involved and complicated. I have an HD2 as well and have been flashing since Android was on SD. That process is simple. Everything I have read about flashing things to the tab doesn't look that way. I really havent had any issues with my tab as stock other than a bit laggy at times. I would like to hear more about all of this. The oppinions I have read are either do it or don't do it. There are more problem posts after attempting to flash than there are good ones where it worked. I really could care less about a quadrant score to be honest, but I would like to have a faster smoother running tab. I really dont care about making calls on it either. Thats why I have a phone. JMO. I think part of the issue in this thread is that there are Euro and USA version which are completely different and require different roms and such.
I have been reading and lurking in the tab development thread for a while now and am not impressed with any of it yet. Maybe someone could shed some light on things and change my mind.
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I agree. The process of flashing the Galaxy is much more dauting than anything on the HD2. I suggest you do the EXT4 file converstion. All you need is follow the step by step I wrote above. It makes a huge difference. As for everything else, I too hold off to do too much flashing. The ROM I use now is great and lighter than stock but your seems to work well so keep it. For me when a ROM is good I just use it. When I bought the HD2 I flashed it 2 times with a custom ROM till i found one that worked for me and kept it for 8 months. But backing up and restoring WinMo is much easier... on Androind its all more complicated if you dont know what you are doing. Disable some start-ups on your unit, convert the file system to EXT4 and make sure you have nothing on your home screen doing a lot of refreshing and your tab will work great
natious said:
flash modacos kernel and rom, convert to ext4, you'll be amazed.
to OP
In startup auditor i just checked disable all, and am not having any problems, unless you are using task manager to disable
...CALENDAR
CALENDAR STORAGE...
edit: But when i check advanced task killer, it still shows that all the disabled apps are running
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Is everything working 100% on that ROM? I do not want any ROMS that are having problems.
I too am not impressed with anything that us out yet...seems like any ROM process is tedious and complicated.
Glad the thread starter modified his tab to his liking, but what's the point of having it if you need to drastically change everything. I have a rooted DInc and not use any of things......didn't really see a performance gain with set CPU.
I'm going to continue waiting for something more reliable and use my tab the way it was meant to be, with all its hardware and widgets.
dubie76 said:
Having done nothing but root, my tab gets about 1000 quadrant score. I have tried setcpu using on demand and it actuall has made my tab worse. I am very hesitant to flash anything on the tab. It seems very involved and complicated. I have an HD2 as well and have been flashing since Android was on SD. That process is simple. Everything I have read about flashing things to the tab doesn't look that way. I really havent had any issues with my tab as stock other than a bit laggy at times. I would like to hear more about all of this. The oppinions I have read are either do it or don't do it. There are more problem posts after attempting to flash than there are good ones where it worked. I really could care less about a quadrant score to be honest, but I would like to have a faster smoother running tab. I really dont care about making calls on it either. Thats why I have a phone. JMO. I think part of the issue in this thread is that there are Euro and USA version which are completely different and require different roms and such.
I have been reading and lurking in the tab development thread for a while now and am not impressed with any of it yet. Maybe someone could shed some light on things and change my mind.
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dubie76 said:
Is everything working 100% on that ROM? I do not want any ROMS that are having problems.
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Sure is, I use my tab as a phone replacement so I had to have everything work, you will be waiting eons for a decent update from samsung
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AlpineM3 said:
I too am not impressed with anything that us out yet...seems like any ROM process is tedious and complicated.
Glad the thread starter modified his tab to his liking, but what's the point of having it if you need to drastically change everything. I have a rooted DInc and not use any of things......didn't really see a performance gain with set CPU.
I'm going to continue waiting for something more reliable and use my tab the way it was meant to be, with all its hardware and widgets.
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How are you not impressed if you haven't tried anything?
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Thank you for your detailed post. While I agree with you that the stock SGT rom and browser suck but where do you think the JMI, JMF, JMx ROMs coming from?
Most ROMs I've seen (except for CM) are based from some sort of Jxx
Please keep the tweak posts going. Good stuff and thanks!
natious said:
How are you not impressed if you haven't tried anything?
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Not impressed with all the problems being posted just tring to flash it, and how complex it is to do it. Guess that's what I meant. Flashing the hd2 is a very simple process. Tab is not
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My boy,
Only getting my Galaxy tomorrow but looking through threads on my favorite forum.
And guess the first one I happen into... I will follow avidly.
Hi dubie76,
Try an app called OCLF 2.0 on the Market. It is a Lag fix app for the Samsung Galaxy S which also works on the Tab.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rc.QuickFixLagFixR2
You have to install EXT2 tools and then install one click lag fix, both are done within the app.
I had this on my Tab before flashed to a custom ROM. The tab was much faster and did not have and lag compared to stock, the Quadrant score was around 1900.
Also you can uninstall the modifications in the app and easily reverse back to stock. The only disadvantage is you will loss about 800mb of internal memory (the 2Gb space), so if you don't have much space left, you will need to uninstall some apps and reinstall them once you applied the lag fix.
P.S. thanks to OP for the SystemApp Remover & Startup Auditor suggestion.
Custom ROMs?
Hi everyone!
Consider this:
The locked GTab (in standby) on an original ROM with a connected to it BT headset wakes up after replying a call from BT and can potentially have anything pressed as being in the bag due to its size...
My point is that there is NO fix for this on XDA therefore why should I expect any significant advancements from a custom ROM if such simple things cannot be fixed on Android.
My personal view is that Android is unfortunatelly not as flexible for adjustments as WinMo (i have HD2 as well with a wonderful custom Artemis ROM).
I've tried two Roto ROMs on my GT and they havent provided any noticeable enhancements in performance to my eye (perhaps some rating went up - I dont care about tech stats). I reverted to stock ROM P1000XWJMI that works as fast for a "regular user".
I am sad to resume my experience with hacking the GT as not worth it: you get serious risk of getting the GT bricked (much more complicated than with WinMo), loose the warranty and are open for instability and sudden incompatibilities with crashes.
On the third custom ROM installation attempt I was stuck on a black screen after powering on (stuck on the bootloader!) and couldnt initiate flash for multiple times. I was shocked and very nervous. Thats when the stock ROM saved my ass and I am not willing the risk of playing around any more with non-firmware ROMs for Android GT.
Regarding the alternative screen lockers available - please do not suggest Screen Suite (the best of the worst) and things like No-Lock (to get rid of the original locker) as they all mess up once in a while (tested) with the default ROM settings and the original core locker.
PS
In my view the best thing we can and should do first of all is to COMPLAIN to SAMSUNG Tech Support and Software Developers (I did twice already).
If every one of us from theese GTab forums would do this they would definitely get faster with resolving issues.
mrbuz said:
Hi everyone!
Consider this:
The locked GTab (in standby) on an original ROM with a connected to it BT headset wakes up after replying a call from BT and can potentially have anything pressed as being in the bag due to its size...
My point is that there is NO fix for this on XDA therefore why should I expect any significant advancements from a custom ROM if such simple things cannot be fixed on Android.
My personal view is that Android is unfortunatelly not as flexible for adjustments as WinMo (i have HD2 as well with a wonderful custom Artemis ROM).
I've tried two Roto ROMs on my GT and they havent provided any noticeable enhancements in performance to my eye (perhaps some rating went up - I dont care about tech stats). I reverted to stock ROM P1000XWJMI that works as fast for a "regular user".
I am sad to resume my experience with hacking the GT as not worth it: you get serious risk of getting the GT bricked (much more complicated than with WinMo), loose the warranty and are open for instability and sudden incompatibilities with crashes.
On the third custom ROM installation attempt I was stuck on a black screen after powering on (stuck on the bootloader!) and couldnt initiate flash for multiple times. I was shocked and very nervous. Thats when the stock ROM saved my ass and I am not willing the risk of playing around any more with non-firmware ROMs for Android GT.
Regarding the alternative screen lockers available - please do not suggest Screen Suite (the best of the worst) and things like No-Lock (to get rid of the original locker) as they all mess up once in a while (tested) with the default ROM settings and the original core locker.
PS
In my view the best thing we can and should do first of all is to COMPLAIN to SAMSUNG Tech Support and Software Developers (I did twice already).
If every one of us from theese GTab forums would do this they would definitely get faster with resolving issues.
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So what if the screen goes on in your bag, unless you have a fresh finger floating around in there nothing can press any buttons on the capcitive screen, also my tab I just hit the lock button in a bt call, screen turns off phone stays on
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Im so confused. I have my tab rooted and oclf 2.0. Im scoring 2200 in quadrant and.my dolphin hd browser is SO laggy. Even with flash disabled. Any ideas?
koxville said:
Im so confused. I have my tab rooted and oclf 2.0. Im scoring 2200 in quadrant and.my dolphin hd browser is SO laggy. Even with flash disabled. Any ideas?
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because quadrant doesn't mean **** in the real world, i score 2300 but thats with the 1.4 oc.
Give miren a try, tbh its the best
Thinking of what I can keep improving of this phone is becoming quite hard
just cause all developers or modders are doing such an incredible job.
However I was yet able to find a tremendous annoying issue, that could make things more pleasant if resolved
One word, auto-rotation..
the screen turns when you don't want too
the screen turns to slow
the screen get flipped upside/ down
…
So I was thinking if it wouldn't be use full if we made a smart control center
Where you can for example disable auto-rotation but still enable it for some apps
What do you think? Xd
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.fameit.rotate
im sorry, but this does already exist
Intensity007 said:
Thinking of what I can keep improving of this phone is becoming quite hard
just cause all developers or modders are doing such an incredible job.
However I was yet able to find a tremendous annoying issue, that could make things more pleasant if resolved
One word, auto-rotation..
the screen turns when you don't want too
the screen turns to slow
the screen get flipped upside/ down
…
So I was thinking if it wouldn't be use full if we made a smart control center
Where you can for example disable auto-rotation but still enable it for some apps
What do you think? Xd
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I think your posting in wrong forum. This belongs in general.
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I encourage you read this thread! If you go about installing Nova Launcher and following these steps there are a ton of features built into the settings that 1) are not enabled and 2) some of them work and some dont! SO you could easily turn on AirView and other like settings! Verified to work but just as the thread states some do now. The air gestures do function in apps such as Gallery and the like!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/guide-enable-airview-airgesture-root-t2922888
No root and want to modify your DPI? You can! Thread by @PizzaSauce -- Change your DPI without ROOT! (Mind you this will change it for every app! It is not able to be on a per app basis!)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/root-want-to-modify-dpi-t2960644
[GUIDE] Disable Knox and the OTA without root -- Thread by @Misterxtc Thanks to Misterxtc for putting this together for us! He has given credit to RootJunky for the original script files on the Droid Turbo!
Check it out!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/disable-knox-ota-root-t2972263
One more reserve!
Have at it peeps!
Thanks for doing this. I request as you add to this that the mods consider to make this a "sticky" up top! :highfive:
lazer9 said:
Thanks for doing this. I request as you add to this that the mods consider to make this a "sticky" up top! :highfive:
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I'll get in touch with them and see if that's possible!
I feel having a well built and organized thread for all the info on roms and etc as they come around stickied would make life alot easier especially for alot of the new comers
Non-Root Workarounds
This is probably my favorite thread.
Non-Root Workarounds for the Note 4.
As a Verizon user who will probably never be able to root his phone, this thread is awesome!
Thread stickied thanks to @KennyG123
freddy0872 said:
Maintenance Boot Menu (thanks @gatesjunior ) -- Press and hold power button and volume down button through the phone reboot and a new screen will come up with options never really seen before! Great find!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/cool-t2935455
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Doesn't that put you in Download Mode?
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Doesn't that put you in Download Mode?
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Your correct if you are in fact powered off and then hold your buttons. Doing it this way you start your key combination while booted up and hold it thru the reboot until you see the menu.
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Your correct if you are in fact powered off and then hold your buttons. Doing it this way you start your key combination while booted up and hold it thru the reboot until you see the menu.
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Ok, got it. Thanks, now I understand the "through boot" comment. Not enough coffee this morning, LOL.
jpcalhoun said:
Ok, got it. Thanks, now I understand the "through boot" comment. Not enough coffee this morning, LOL.
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I feel your pain! Lol
But welcome! And thanks for posting here! Remember if you or anyone has any thoughts. Comments. Questions. Post it up! Ask away! That's why we're all here to help each other out!
I'm sure everyone had noticed this, but it was a bit of a "good" shock to me. Action memo (the stand alone app) seems to be no more, and it's integrated in s note. I was and still am extremely annoyed because my old action memos, I had to "try" and find a way to export them. Now, thanks to a bright, but late light bulb, Samsung has finally made this sensible decision.
The interface is a little different than in previous versions to view your memos. Before, there was a list "button" next to the link to action button. But now you have to go to the options menu (the three dots on the right) and select the "view action memos list" option.
I noticed some stuff with screen shots also, but can't remember off the top of my head..
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I'm sure everyone had noticed this, but it was a bit of a "good" shock to me. Action memo (the stand alone app) seems to be no more, and it's integrated in s note. I was and still am extremely annoyed because my old action memos, I had to "try" and find a way to export them. Now, thanks to a bright, but late light bulb, Samsung has finally made this sensible decision.
The interface is a little different than in previous versions to view your memos. Before, there was a list "button" next to the link to action button. But now you have to go to the options menu (the three dots on the right) and select the "view action memos list" option.
I noticed some stuff with screen shots also, but can't remember off the top of my head..
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Yea the whole not having a physical menu button has driven me a little insane! I have the Tab S 8.4 so i was kind of prepared for the button change up but still seemed odd. Im growing accustomed to it. Maybe if its still an issue after we obtain root we can change the mapping of the physical buttons.
Added a link to a thread for the stock firmware images! Made by @hsbadr
Be sure to drop him a thank you for posting links up for us!
Were seeing the normal usual topics develop which is a good sign!
It was a little shock at first also for me, but I've actually adapted and like it better. The funny thing I realized almost immediately was that I never used that button much. So the long press to get the menu, but at the same time, the app drawer is cool..
Lol, I'm actually getting to the point I think where I don't want to root. It sounds really crazy for me, but I was talking to my lady today and telling her how smooth and much I'm enjoying this phone "just the way it is". I don't recall honestly being this satisfied in a few years.
We'll see, but I like it a ton dude! And I'm really in shock myself how much..
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It was a little shock at first also for me, but I've actually adapted and like it better. The funny thing I realized almost immediately was that I never used that button much. So the long press to get the menu, but at the same time, the app drawer is cool..
Lol, I'm actually getting to the point I think where I don't want to root. It sounds really crazy for me, but I was talking to my lady today and telling her how smooth and much I'm enjoying this phone "just the way it is". I don't recall honestly being this satisfied in a few years.
We'll see, but I like it a ton dude! And I'm really in shock myself how much..
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I couldn't agree more! To me root would purely be a nice benefit. Not so much a necessity. Of course I'd look forward to some themeing especially if we can get a rom much like Alliance. Just loaded down with customizations!
And of course getting getting rid of or freezing bloat would be nice!
Something I noticed today I've been able to get almost 2 days out of one charge. I don't get much usage while at work but today (yes it was a work day) it only lasted me about 14 hours. Big difference! Hoping the phone was just being needy and hitting up something to cause it to chew up battery. I'm going to install gsam and start paying attention to what's sucking it up.
Also has anyone gotten ballsy and tapped on the security update notification that pops up once and a while?
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I couldn't agree more! To me root would purely be a nice benefit. Not so much a necessity. Of course I'd look forward to some themeing especially if we can get a rom much like Alliance. Just loaded down with customizations!
And of course getting getting rid of or freezing bloat would be nice!
Something I noticed today I've been able to get almost 2 days out of one charge. I don't get much usage while at work but today (yes it was a work day) it only lasted me about 14 hours. Big difference! Hoping the phone was just being needy and hitting up something to cause it to chew up battery. I'm going to install gsam and start paying attention to what's sucking it up.
Also has anyone gotten ballsy and tapped on the security update notification that pops up once and a while?
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I concur to be honest.. And maybe I'm just getting old, but I primarily would want root would be to, like yourself, just remove apps. That's about it.. Lol.. Themes, Hmmnn, not so much anymore to be honest. Lol, really, I got a bit burned out on the 3 with roms. Honestly, if Eclipse had continued to be developed, I don't think I would have ever tried even alliance. But yes, the features are cool.
And I just posted in the battery thread, this thing is awesome! Not just for the longevity, but more important, the fast charging.. I'm probably either wishing for an in car fast charger(that would be my choice) or a second battery and external charger. Lol, just for accessories.. But I really, really do love this thing. They really did it right on this version, and I was really not excited for the regular note.
And then this thing is so damn fast that it's crazy.. Lol
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Doesn't that put you in Download Mode?
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No. Download mode is achieved by; holding Power/Volume down/Home buttons.
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Your correct if you are in fact powered off and then hold your buttons. Doing it this way you start your key combination while booted up and hold it thru the reboot until you see the menu.
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Doesn't matter if you do this through a restart or from a powered down state.
POLL
Added a Poll in the General Section just to see what you guys think if we will ever obtain a root or unlocking method for the VZW Note 4 Retail!
Added it to the links post as well
Hit it up fellas and lets see what we all think!?
I just want to start out by saying that I am loving this phone so far. It is just so beautiful. I am a Microsoft Software Developer so of course I was trying to be patient with Windows 10 Mobile but I just needed a new phone and I am so happy I made the choice. Any app I can think of is just here to download which is a wonderful feeling and of course the phone is just blazing fast!
I have been lurking around the forums for the past few days and every now and again I am hearing people complaining about lag and or ram usage and I don't understand it. Oh btw I have the Snapdragon AT&T Edge variant. But anyways, the real reason I made the post is just I wanted to know what the best steps are that I can take to clean up my phone and keep it awesome. I always heard over time that Android gets bulky and slow and of course the phone came with alot of junkware apps. Is there anything I can do to get these apps removed or turned off? Also, is there a way to manage my Ram usage? I notice over time it will get lower (but still never lags) and usually after a restart it will come back but is there more I can be doing to keep my Marshmallow fresh and happy?
These forums are a huge place so if anyone also has a link to point me in a good direction then I would also greatly appreciate it! :good::highfive:
Package disabler Pro app, thank me later ?
1. Disable any apps you feel you won't use (duplicate camera apps, duplicate photo apps, duplicate text apps,etc) .
2. Obtain the app IFTTT asap (trust me)
3. Obtain Barcode scanner (just a classic and why not).
4. Greenify if you want to fine tune battery use.
5. Enable Developer mode (Settings > About Phone > Tap 'Build number' repeatedly
>>>> In Developer mode, there are transition animation speed levels, most people switch from 1x to 0.5x or off.
Those are some quick and dirty tricks, there are a ton more, but that should get you started. Good luck, hit thanks button as often as possible for the fine people of xda and welcome!
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