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N1 vs Nexus S

Which one is better and why? I'm really in need of new phone please help me.
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I go for LG optimus x2, it's a dual core phone.
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Depends on what you want out of an Android phone. You can't buy the Nexus One directly from Google, you can with the Nexus S though (and Best Buy). I still have the Nexus One and I really don't see myself even considering the S due to the lack of things I need (FFC is useless, plastic throws me off).

So if I buy N1 would it be upgradable to honeycomb? And is it fast compare to x10? That's what I currently have?
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the_ahmadzais said:
Which one is better and why? I'm really in need of new phone please help me.
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I have the nexus one, but if i could choose now - I'll definitely go for the Nexus S without a doubt.
The touch screen on the nexus one is abysmal. It has multiple freezing issues, and a boatload of bugs that no one is bothering to fix. It's also much slower than the S... i've had a play on my brother's S, and it's so smooth, responsive.. amazing phone.
Also, you're guaranteed to survive at least 1 Android upgrade with the Nexus S, seeing as it's the flagship google dev phone as of now. The nexus one... not sure how much longer it can go. probably a while, but that would be do to the mod community and not the official channels.
Go Nexus S and don't look back.

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So if I buy N1 would it be upgradable to honeycomb? And is it fast compare to x10? That's what I currently have?
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Yes it will. You are basically comparing phones with the same hardware, both 1 GHz, 480 x 800, 5 MP, capacitive buttons, etc. Updates should be reasonably quick depending on how Andy Rubin runs things.
Oh and the major difference being that the Nexus One has dual noise canceling mics, phones calls are going to be crisp and better for the person on the other end. The Nexus S has a front facing camera, once Skype gets on Android, it might take off.

I have the Nexus One and my wife has the Nexus S. Neither is rooted. I find the USER EXPERIENCE on the Nexus S to be MUCH BETTER than the Nexus One. Larger and brighter display that you can use outside. Not the fingerprint magnet the Nexus One is. Much smoother touch screen experience. And I don't know what all the fuss is about the plastic case vs the metal case. I find it very sturdy and it even feels better in your hand. It's faster at almost everything. You can even hear the speakerphone. Don't get me wrong, I love my Nexus One. But if some one ask me if i would trade it for a Nexus S... Without any hesitation YES!

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And I don't know what all the fuss is about the plastic case vs the metal case.
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Fingerprinting on the battery door. If you get fingerprints all over the Nexus One battery door, I am surprised. On the Nexus S, not so much.

I had the n1 one for about a year and upgraded to the nexus s just 2 weeks ago. I find the battery life to be amazing (full day normal use) on the nexus s. The most important improvement has been the touch screen, not cause i play games, but for typing. I noticed that im making less mistakes on the nexus s and my speed has gone up substantially, i also had gingerbread on my n1.

Go with the Motorola Atrix or a new tablet.

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Go with the Motorola Atrix or a new tablet.
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Tablets are for sick people.
Both Nexus phones are great and both have their problems...but nothing is perfect!

I had the nexus S for about two weeks before I had to return it since T-Mobile service is horrible where I live.
I've gotta say that the S is better in most aspects. The screen is amazingly bright and easy to read in sunlight. The screen also registers fast typing much better, so I make a lot less mistakes.
Stock gingerbread is so fast and smooth.
However I didn't like the glossy plastic construction on the NS. It was a fingerprint magnet. Also, the quality control on new units were terrible.
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the only thing that I keep N1 is to stay with T-Mobile $5.99 old unlimited data plan.

Day 1 Note 1 user on using new Note 2 for 1hour.

I have never been more thrilled with a new phone as my first hour with this....and Ive been using Smartphones since 1998...they were smart then werent they?...well we thought they were.
Usually
I'm always dealing with something out of the box..not one dissatisfaction here..
Significant upgrade...which I had my doubts about.
A simply brilliant piece of technology.
A big salute to Samsung!

Note 2 is the smartphone to rule them all! Lol!
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Hey Please give more details is it really worth the upgrade from note one... what did you really like compared to note
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Please stop - finding it harder to resist the Note 2 every day!
Seriously though, every video review I've read makes it clear just how full this phone is of great features. I've never been a fan of TouchWiz and I personally think it looks dog ugly compared to stock Jelly Bean, but I can't deny that Samsung have built in some really useful features combined with the fastest technology available. I've heard complaints about price, but when I compared Amazon's price for SIM free to Apple's price for the iPhone 5, the Note 2 is marginally cheaper.

Have a ton of apps already loaded.
Take the N1 custom Rom that claims is the buttery smoothest and this kicks its ass without modding.
Take the fastest tweaked N1 custom Rom (tried em all) and this runs circles around it.
The screen clarity is better..more vivid...had doubts from comments here.
If you liked using the S-pen on N1...you'll love it here.
Multi Window functionality really is a revolutionary feature in a stock rom. Being able to have my notes app on the bottom and comment on a document displayed above it is superb. All the features Samsung hyped about in their release announcement....aint hype!
Its that good...and more.
Oh and I really like it!
So....all the many other new features on this that Samsung you can read a
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Hey Please give more details is it really worth the upgrade from note one... what did you really like compared to note
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I am also a Note 1 user/lover and have bought a Note 2.
Here are my initial thoughts:
Note 2 is much easier to hold... feels more like a phone then a tablet.
Note 2 screen seemed to be less bright/colourful as Note 1 but with a few minor adjustments from the default settings it is much better. Though i am still in 2 minds about which screen is superior.
Multi window feature is awesome.
Speed of the device is excellent.
S-Pen implementation is much better on Note 2 then Note 1.
Signature unlock has been removed (must have had issues), but we now have 'motion' unlock and a 'face and voice' unlock feature to compliment.
Apps do not have access to the external SD card... at all. The only app that can access the external SD is the built in File Explorer.
Swype is now fully integrated (ie/ it is the default keyboard and all Swype branding has been removed).
That's all i can think of for now!

its fantastic phone better then n1 in every department other then camera, images, text and icons. not as crisp or clear.

fixed all the parts i didn't like with the first note.
More ergonomic pen.
More uses for the pen.
Better battery-life.
feels better to hold.
LED notifications.
Smoother overall experience.
Screen don't feel as crisp but its still sharp and nice in my opinion. actually i find it just as good as the first Notes screen.
Camera is fast.
Speaker is great, even covering it with your finger it still hearable.
power and volume buttons moved down a bit for easier access.
micro SD card slot moved to a better location.
faster WI-FI.
GPS finds location quicker then my note, and finds satellites when the note dont. got 7 in view right now side by side with my old note.. the old note got 0 in view...
100% worth the money :victory:

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Apps do not have access to the external SD card... at all. The only app that can access the external SD is the built in File Explorer.
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Also the music and video players.
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rockky said:
I have never been more thrilled with a new phone as my first hour with this....and Ive been using Smartphones since 1998...they were smart then werent they?...well we thought they were.
Usually
I'm always dealing with something out of the box..not one dissatisfaction here..
Significant upgrade...which I had my doubts about.
A simply brilliant piece of technology.
A big salute to Samsung!
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I could not agree with you more. I have never been totally satisfied with a device before, but I am with my Note2. I usually change phones every few months, but I think this one will hold me until the Note 3 releases. How could anyone top this?
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americasteam said:
I could not agree with you more. I have never been totally satisfied with a device before, but I am with my Note2. I usually change phones every few months, but I think this one will hold me until the Note 3 releases. How could anyone top this?
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+10.000.000

05GT said:
Note 2 is the smartphone to rule them all! Lol!
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For now... a year later, frustrations as I said in my rants.
Delayed updates, no drivers, and that AMOLED screen will degrade to a point until you scream!

Livebyte said:
For now... a year later, frustrations as I said in my rants.
Delayed updates, no drivers, and that AMOLED screen will degrade to a point until you scream!
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We get it, you have your thread complaining about the Galaxy Note II, now whilst you have the right to express yourself and your feelings about the phone. I'm tired of seeing you say the same old thing over and over and over again about the Galaxy Note I, which may or may not happen with the Galaxy Note II. We get it, sammy screwed you over, now get over it and go get your iPhone or whatever. Sheesh.

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For now... a year later, frustrations as I said in my rants.
Delayed updates, no drivers, and that AMOLED screen will degrade to a point until you scream!
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I think you really want the note 2, why do you stick around if you're that disappointed? I'm not a big fan of iPhones and I certainly don't hang around in iPhone forums. We get it you don't like it but we do and you won't change our mind. Go enjoy whatever phone you enjoy and let us be for crying out loud.

Overall I am very satisfied. Only 2 things is a little let down for me
- No preinstall polaris office
- Cannot change input method by long press on a text area (this feature was very usefull for me in note 1)
Apart from these...I am very very happy
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iznee said:
Overall I am very satisfied. Only 2 things is a little let down for me
- No preinstall polaris office
- Cannot change input method by long press on a text area (this feature was very usefull for me in note 1)
Apart from these...I am very very happy
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Whenever you open the keyboard you can change the input method via the notification tray (long pressing a text area was removed in ICS)

Any comment on the feeling of the home button? I have tried my friend's GS3 and don't like the cheap (like a toy) feeling when I press it. I hope the GN2 home button is smooth like the iPhone one

CreepyDroid said:
Whenever you open the keyboard you can change the input method via the notification tray (long pressing a text area was removed in ICS)
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Thank you very very much...

barondebxl said:
I think you really want the note 2, why do you stick around if you're that disappointed? I'm not a big fan of iPhones and I certainly don't hang around in iPhone forums. We get it you don't like it but we do and you won't change our mind. Go enjoy whatever phone you enjoy and let us be for crying out loud.
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Yayyya
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Livebyte said:
For now... a year later, frustrations as I said in my rants.
Delayed updates, no drivers, and that AMOLED screen will degrade to a point until you scream!
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Wat? My Galaxy S1 (Which I preordered back then) is still in use by one of my friends. The display does not look degraded in any way.

[Q] best phone currently for T-mobile

So I bit early last week on a N4 16gb when they first went available again, and since then it seems like the people who are receiving the last batch of the initial stock are posting reviews and Impressions of the device and aren't totally smitten. Whether it be rattling, the glass back, overheating, buzzing in earpiece and non-optimization of 4.2 it was scaring me a little.
What i was wondering, was which phones people felt were the best option for T-mobile. The keys i was taking into account were:
•strong processor (min. Dual core)
•decent to big battery
•high res. Screen (and at least 4.3")
•good video/gaming playback
•decent volume (doesn't feel tiny on headphones on high)
•should be semi safe with updates for next 2 years.
I am in the middle of a mobile contract with a Htc Radar 4g, and its just not enough for me and leave me wanting. So am looking for a phone that could potentially survive at least another 2 years. I was thinking of options like the note II, gsIII, HTC one international (w/ non-gba card), gnex. The only thing i will rule out is the iPhone because i have a PC, no offense to iPhone users.
So tell me your opinions and views.....if this thread should be moved elsewhere i allow the moderators to move it otlr let me know and let me know how to move it.
Thanks in advance

I would say note II but then again im on att ^^
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Whether it be rattling, the glass back, overheating, buzzing in earpiece and non-optimization of 4.2 it was scaring me a little.
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I think you should think about whether you actually care about these things.
Rattling - basically non-existant, you can't even hear it unless you litterally shake your phone right next to your ear repeatedly.
Glass Back - This is user preference
overheating - pretty sure this only occurs during benchmarking?
buzzing in earpiece - I dunno about this
non-optimization of 4.2 - i'm sure all phones are getting 4.2 eventually so this part might not even apply specifically to the Nexus 4.

I've now lived with a 16gb N4 for about five days and I think it's the best phone on Tmo by a country mile.
Like you, I upgraded from an HTC Radar (actually liked that phone quite a bit), but I carefully tested all of the contenders currently available on Tmo and available unlocked. I opted for the N4 from Google Play.
I guess there may be a rattle but I honestly didn't notice it until I read about it (and I'm still not sure I hear it like some hear it). I've been shocked at how fast and buttery smooth Jelly Bean is. It really is awesome.
Hardware feels more elegant than other Android devices I've felt... Screen is beautiful and battery life has been fine for me (lasts a full day of moderate use).
I dunno. Maybe it's still honeymoon but I'm happy with it!

N4 rocks for me on T-Mobile!

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N4 rocks for me on T-Mobile!
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+1 on this, coming from Sprint epic.
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exaybachay01 said:
So I bit early last week on a N4 16gb when they first went available again, and since then it seems like the people who are receiving the last batch of the initial stock are posting reviews and Impressions of the device and aren't totally smitten. Whether it be rattling, the glass back, overheating, buzzing in earpiece and non-optimization of 4.2 it was scaring me a little.
What i was wondering, was which phones people felt were the best option for T-mobile. The keys i was taking into account were:
•strong processor (min. Dual core)
•decent to big battery
•high res. Screen (and at least 4.3")
•good video/gaming playback
•decent volume (doesn't feel tiny on headphones on high)
•should be semi safe with updates for next 2 years.
I am in the middle of a mobile contract with a Htc Radar 4g, and its just not enough for me and leave me wanting. So am looking for a phone that could potentially survive at least another 2 years. I was thinking of options like the note II, gsIII, HTC one international (w/ non-gba card), gnex. The only thing i will rule out is the iPhone because i have a PC, no offense to iPhone users.
So tell me your opinions and views.....if this thread should be moved elsewhere i allow the moderators to move it otlr let me know and let me know how to move it.
Thanks in advance
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I just came from the HTC Radar and the Nexus 4 is an amazing update, not even looking back

I agree with the rest of them. N4 is the best, and I came from an International Galaxy SIII (i9300).
N4 had two updates in the first week I got it. Guess how many OFFICIAL updates my Galaxy SIII has had in 6 months? 1.

N4 by far thanks to Tmo's 3G network, on ATT it is a little less desirable (~3Mbps download is downright average) but I would NEVER consider getting a phablet like the note and I prefer stock android to any skinned version.

I'd rock an N4
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#WhereismyNexus4

I went from a One S to GSIII to a Nexus 4 and I love it. Not regretting the purchase at all and I will have this for the next 2 years no question.
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The n4 is all of those things you are asking for.
To address your gripes:
Rattling: it's the auto focus mechanism. Many phones do this, is meant to happen. You probably won't notice it unless you are looking for it.
Buzzing: I've heard about this, my phone doesn't have the issue.
Glass back: personal preference
Overheating: I have been playing games, no heat issues to report.
The only thing that has been happening, which was also happening on my GNex with 4.2 is a rare soft boot crash. The X pops up out of nowhere. I would imagine an ota will fix it.

Glad to get home from work (posted this while on break) and to see that there have been several replies, and without any infighting at that. Good for this thread, pat yourselves on the back ladies and gents.
To follow up on a few things, I loved my Radar when I first got it, HTC makes excellent phones, and many people (not super high end phone people) were surprised by how nice the screen was, just dismayed by the side...the unfortunate drifting island that is windows 7.5 is what made me start looking for a replacement. As well as the ability to easily recoup the money that I would spend on an N4.
To those of those that touted how much they liked the N4, have you had any issues at all. I know some touched on not having the same issues that i mentioned. The yellow tinted screen is something else I have seen mentioned. Of those who have the phone how many are from THE 1ST BATCH of sales. Am curious to see if there is a chance that most of the problems were with the 1st batch, or possibly foreign made batches.
It looks like it is going to to be a good match, but still want to hear more and from people who haven't posted.
For those that came from the sIII, note or gnex, what do you like more about the N4 through your use already.....and any suggestion on cases?

Your in the Nexus 4 forum asking about the best phone for tmobile. I wander how this will play out...

The only main issue that you need to debate if you can handle it with the nexus is the buzzing/ crackling noise from earpeice. Some say it's doesn't matter, because they can't hear it, but some phone have it worse then other. I have two nexus 4 here and one is not noticeable, while the other is quite loud. Also Yellowing spot on the phone when it gets warm which happen when you play game or watch a hd movie for a bit. The yellow spot is most likely a hardware issue, it's not the same as a yellow tint which you may also get.

svengalis said:
Your in the Nexus 4 forum asking about the best phone for tmobile. I wander how this will play out...
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I asked here for honest opinions, people who have the N4 and are getting replacements or are having to deal with the issues and stomach it would be open to stating if they love the phone or feel regret.
Tenji7 said:
The only main issue that you need to debate if you can handle it with the nexus is the buzzing/ crackling noise from earpeice. Some say it's doesn't matter, because they can't hear it, but some phone have it worse then other. I have two nexus 4 here and one is not noticeable, while the other is quite loud. Also Yellowing spot on the phone when it gets warm which happen when you play game or watch a hd movie for a bit. The yellow spot is most likely a hardware issue, it's not the same as a yellow tint which you may also get.
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It seems from reading that you either get the the yellow spots or the yellow tint, if anyone is getting the yellow tint, is it consistent or off and on, and do you think they will call for a recall due to any of these issues?

Note 2 IS THE BEST at the moment in terms of specs
But N4 is still a good choice, more budget friendly AND it may lose in specs on paper, but it has yet to crash and is SILKY SMOOTH.
also not to bash on note 2, but my friend just got it and i had a few minutes to play with it....but after using pure android (came from sg2), note 2 felt VERY bloated and sometimes slow (note this is on stock)
BTW i have no issues with my phone, but other have said that you can always do a rma thru google. and ofc tmobile honors factory defects as well.

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Note 2 IS THE BEST at the moment in terms of specs
But N4 is still a good choice, more budget friendly AND it may lose in specs on paper, but it has yet to crash and is SILKY SMOOTH.
also not to bash on note 2, but my friend just got it and i had a few minutes to play with it....but after using pure android (came from sg2), note 2 felt VERY bloated and sometimes slow (note this is on stock)
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Stat wise? Note 2 is the best? (laughs hard and sharts in pants) Show me where the Note 2 is beating the Nexus 4 in stats. Please do. Screen size doesn't count wither there bud.
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Stat wise? Note 2 is the best? (laughs hard and sharts in pants) Show me where the Note 2 is beating the Nexus 4 in stats. Please do. Screen size doesn't count wither there bud.
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Note 2 has better camera front and back also has a micro sd slot also note 2 has the best battery life.
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Andrew149 said:
Note 2 has better camera front and back also has a micro sd slot also note 2 has the best battery life.
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+1
Also although we(n4) have the same CPUs and GPU as the LG optimus G, when the Optimus G is compared with the note 2 they were basically a even match with the note 2 slightly ahead in some of the benchmarks. Now we know the optimus G is one hell of a phone and we should also too right? But with the currently thermal throttling/overheating, we arent even up to the optimus G level yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSF6zFc6pV0
i know benchmarks dont mean sh1t but same with specs looks good on paper but it doesnt reflect its daily usage.
That's why i said in terms of specs its better. i didnt say that its the best overall.

Nexus 4 Ghosting wtf

Okay I've been contemplating getting a nexus 4 and yesterday I tried one out for the first time. Immediately I noticed terrible ghosting. How are you guys dealing with that. Total deal breaker for me. Was really excited about this phone. Can't believe lg pulled that kinda crap:banghead:
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Ghosting? Defo not something I've come across so far after 2 days of use and something I've never seen mentioned on here until now.
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There is no ghosting
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What do you mean by ghosting? Your def might be different from others.

Yes what is ghosting? I've had my nexus for a week and it is the best device I've owned. Only flaw is it's fragility
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I swear, once people know TOO much about things, they start finding even the LITTLE faults.

Ghosting happens if an LCD has 5ms refresh rate or higher. So far I've seen that on 2 different devices and it's there. I even found out her ppl in reviews citing this problem
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Ghosting happens if an LCD has 5ms refresh rate or higher. So far I've seen that on 2 different devices and it's there. I even found out her ppl in reviews citing this problem
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Still not helping your cause, man.

KossKnowsKarate said:
Ghosting happens if an LCD has 5ms refresh rate or higher. So far I've seen that on 2 different devices and it's there. I even found out her ppl in reviews citing this problem
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Maybe I'm just mathematically retarded today, but wouldn't a 5ms refresh rate == 200 Hz ?! What's unacceptable about that?

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I swear, once people know TOO much about things, they start finding even the LITTLE faults.
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Im gonna go with this and/or the phone you looked at actually had the issue......maybe......probably not................................NO

No ghosts here except the one that knocked my nexus out of my hand and dented my plastic chrome bezel
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Just tested one at the local t mo. I guess you get used to it after a while but I still don't like the display. I meant its not bad by my HTC is better to me at least.
Really bummed about that. I was really looking forward to getting a nexus... Even my cm10.1 is better than vanilla android. Too bad maybe next nexus they make will be right for me.
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The only time I've ever seen this is with my razr that has an oled display. A quick transition between whites and blacks would create that issue. In terms of lcd, it is a standard 60hz screen like most desktop monitors.
I don't think there are any ips panels that can support 120hz so this is probably as good as it gets. What you're noticing is probably visual lag of some sort.
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Yet another case of someone being picky to an absolutely RIDICULOUS level. And yes, that needs to be in all caps.

I think I'm going to RMA my phone, it makes this weird clicking noise whenever I push the buttons on the left side, but its not the same click as the button on the right side makes.

KossKnowsKarate said:
Ghosting happens if an LCD has 5ms refresh rate or higher. So far I've seen that on 2 different devices and it's there. I even found out her ppl in reviews citing this problem
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Yep, I noticed that since the first day I've had my device. 4.2.2 definitely takes care of that problem for me since they did a bunch of changes in the video driver.

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Yep, I noticed that since the first day I've had my device. 4.2.2 definitely takes care of that problem for me since they did a bunch of changes in the video driver.
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Bah 4.2.2 does not fix that. Its a hardware issue, software can't remedy that. I also noticed that pure android on that phone lack some quality if life feature compared to cm10.1. Surprisingly enough... Oh well I'll wait for the next nexus device I guess.
I love everything else about the phone tho and at that price its still a steal. Form factor us great
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KossKnowsKarate said:
Bah 4.2.2 does not fix that. Its a hardware issue, software can't remedy that. I also noticed that pure android on that phone lack some quality if life feature compared to cm10.1. Surprisingly enough... Oh well I'll wait for the next nexus device I guess.
I love everything else about the phone tho and at that price its still a steal. Form factor us great
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Good job telling a top kernel Dev that he's wrong and knows nothing about these devices

KossKnowsKarate said:
Okay I've been contemplating getting a nexus 4 and yesterday I tried one out for the first time. Immediately I noticed terrible ghosting. How are you guys dealing with that. Total deal breaker for me. Was really excited about this phone. Can't believe lg pulled that kinda crap:banghead:
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You must have special eyes like the guys from phandroid
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You're right, ghosting on that panel is pretty bad. LG did a pretty bad job with it, overdrive+proper calibration would have made the screen noticeably better. Coming from an amoled panel (which have about 0.1ms response time) the difference is staggering.
A lot of people don't notice it, just like a lot of people don't notice the difference between colors in TN and IPS panels, 128kbps mp3 and CDs or 40 and 80 fps in games. It's a matter of being used AND sensitive to the better quality.
Franco is right when he says that 4.2.2 brought lots of improvements to fluidity, but ghosting hasn't really changed, it's due to the pixels' response time and that hasn't changed. You're wrong saying that software cannot fix it tho, because huge mitigation could come from a software lcd overdrive implementation, which is probably not going to happen anyway: it needs to be implemented at driver level, afaik nobody on linux has done it yet (just ATI and maybe nvidia on their latest windows drivers).
But hey, that's far from being a deal breaker, it's A PHONE. First of all, you get used to it; second, it doesn't really matter all that much.
16gb max, no sdcard and otg support can be a deal breaker. But LCD ghosting? Get outta here.

Note 2, why it Sucks

Do you agree?

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This is the best phone, its fast, the battery is good, have a lot of options, ¿What else do you want?

KokoReyes said:
This is the best phone, its fast, the battery is good, have a lot of options, ¿What else do you want?
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um 1080p, bigger battery (5000mha +), android 4.2.2...

create ur own phone.. huhu.. im really like note 2

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um 1080p, bigger battery (5000mha +), android 4.2.2...
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coming from an s3, i think the note 2's battery life is perfect. no need to get extra batteries like i did for s3 and realize they didn't really help

The "review" became irrelevant to me when he took 6 seconds to find his settings in the app drawer versus just using the menu key and going to settings (when he was already on the home screen).

mazdamiata210 said:
The "review" became irrelevant to me when he took 6 seconds to find his settings in the app drawer versus just using the menu key and going to settings (when he was already on the home screen).
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At the time Note 2 was released, these were killer specs and its still a very functional and modern phone. Full HD display is a buzzword of this time and frankly speaking I dont care about it that much. Note 2's display is sharp enough. Full HD display takes its toll on battery and CPU/GPU too.
Larger battery? Boss this is the first Android phone that I have owned which works without charging for two days with quite heavy use. They way you are saying it, even if they had given 5000 mah battery you would have been saying....bah! Only 5000 mah, it should have been 8000 mah at least
I know the more the better but there has to be an appropriate limit. Note 2 is arguably one of the best phones of its time and it still rocks. Sucks is a word you cannot use in its context.
No offence by the way buddy
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I do not. I did not even bother watching the video completely. For what this phone gives me, nothing, can beat it. Amazing battery life, fast CPU, sharp screen and decent build quality.. And a stylus with a 5.5" display. What more would you need?

"and I mean like it's kind of a... You know gloss, basically... like a... kind of a cheap material."
I stopped there.
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This guy makes plenty of "sucks" videos. Classic video whoring for hits.

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I don't agree. I am using Note 2 from Nov 2012 and this phone gives me everything with best battery life, fast CPU, 5.5" display. Any product or phone, there will always be a positive and negative reviews.. but always need to go through the user opinions..

I think his outlook is a 'glass-half-empty' one.
Glad I don't don't have to spend my time with him... Watching 8:15 minutes of his video made my life seem shorter.

I bought it, used it, owned it, and I liked it everyday I held it, enouff said!!
via Note 2

Ive watched a lot of his videos. He loves note 2 and has a lot of phones he does this type of video of. Although he put me off getting htc one lol
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I had to stop at the point where he says it's slower than his Galaxy S III.
Also I think the plastic thing is old, people still complain about that? If you want an aluminum phone you shouldn't get a Samsung... Why do people even complain about these things after buying a device? Don't they know it's plasticky before they buy it? Does it really come as a surprise?
Yawn..

Note 2 sucks beacause this device has no negative points.

Son of gun.!!!! Its slow then S3 ???? Lol guy talks Bruno the Movie .... epic ...stop smoking Crack weirdoo
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FinancialWar said:
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I doubt that you live in this world !
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Odd that he complaint slow exit app when he isn't closing an app. That's not the way to exit. That's just minimizing the app. The proper way is the back key which is common in all Android devices and even in Nokia Symbian phones.
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